Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=Admin2;2056534]I read the Mongernator's report. I'm amazed at the difference legalizing the hobby makes. I'm not commenting on the veracity of the report but if it's true a chick like that would be out of business so fast down here because the market just wouldn't tolerate it and competition is fucking tough. These chicks here buy lights, mirrors, several different shampoo's and body soaps for the bathrooms and generally change the sheets with every customer. They keep beer, coca cola, whisky, water, condoms, candy, smokes. Hell they will keep your supply of condoms there if you want.

This kind of shit just wouldn't fly, it would be all over the local forum in an hour and nobody would call.

A2.[/QUOTE]Your points are well taken, but I want to go farther. The USA was populated by by bluenose assholes who in many cases came here to escape religious persecution. What I believe the school books fail to mention is that the reason they were being prosecuted is because their religious views were so extreme and without tolerance that they would make everyone around them who didn't hold the same views miserable, if not dead. Take, for example, the burning and / or hanging of witches.

Moving to more recent times, beginning in the early part of the 1900's, the bandwagon got rolling with alcohol prohibition. You can read plenty about how fucked up that got with bathtub gin. When you make something the people want illegal, the people will get it anyway because a black market will form to supply it. Because it's a black market, there is no significant self regulation because providers of products have no incentive to become well known and recognized for their product because the attention would most likely land them in jail or worse. Then, when the people finally got fed up with alcohol prohibition, the government legalized it and taxed it to hell.

Unfortunately, due to the nature of government in general, and the desire of people in power to keep power, and to the stupidity of the american people in general, they decided they couldn't let all those revenue agents lose their jobs. Therefore, they decided to make smoke and pretty much everything else illegal. So now you have to buy your H on the street if you're so inclined, instead of at the local drugstore as you could before. So now alcohol is clean and pure, but drugs are laced with all kinds of shit in many cases. Gives the government another, self created reason to prohibit things the people want, and collect more tax revenue in the process. And power.

Same thing with the world's oldest profession. The providers, instead of being out in the open and competing on the basis of services, reputation for cleanliness, amenities, etc, in the open, have to work in the shadows, which allows and encourages a lot of bullshit.

Another example of how the government screws the people. Thank you for the use of your soapbox.

Cheech.

[QUOTE=Admin2;2056817]I'm sure that most of the chicks in the biz here prolly smoke a little weed, most people do here, but you just don't see drug addicts except for the SW's in the really bad neighborhoods. It's another thing I attribute to the legal status of the hobby here. Drug addicts just can't compete with the rest of the market.

A college girl can make 5 times working part time as an escort to what she can make full time working at a 7-11, have her hours free, have a place and time for study and support the inevitable kid or two she has. So when the choice is between a healthy 22 year old hottie or a heroin addict... Well that's no choice at all.

It's why I want to smack all these, "prostitution creates drug addicts" assholes. It's the other way around.

A2.[/QUOTE]You hit the nail on the head, over here if a girl starts using the forum to get thru college it's on the news. I'm not making this up our local station channel 12 just did a story on it a few weeks ago. It's like these girls are doing something unworldly. Shit I wish it was the other way around and women paid for dick, I'm not talking about the lady that might need a gigolo every now and then I'm talking like female mongers I'd be the busiest girl around and raking in as many dollars as I could.

[QUOTE=Admin2;2056817]I'm sure that most of the chicks in the biz here prolly smoke a little weed, most people do here, but you just don't see drug addicts except for the SW's in the really bad neighborhoods. It's another thing I attribute to the legal status of the hobby here. Drug addicts just can't compete with the rest of the market.

A college girl can make 5 times working part time as an escort to what she can make full time working at a 7-11, have her hours free, have a place and time for study and support the inevitable kid or two she has. So when the choice is between a healthy 22 year old hottie or a heroin addict... Well that's no choice at all.

It's why I want to smack all these, "prostitution creates drug addicts" assholes. It's the other way around.

A2.[/QUOTE]With the cost of living in Cincinnati, non-drug-addicted women really don't need to be escorts to make a living for the most part. I think the college girls working their way through school this way can do so more readily by seeking out sugar daddies rather than advertising continuously. So you really have mostly drug addicts working the trade here, and once they've got an arrest or two, they really don't have nearly as much choice. If you're talking about bigger cities with higher rents, you really do have college or grad students or others with decent jobs escorting on the side to pay rent.

I know many guys believe their faves here aren't drug addicts. But, as I've said before, you are probably wrong. Take this as advice from someone who has believed the same thing, only to be proved wrong over and over again. The reason the trade is thriving here is largely because heroin is thriving here.

I lost my home due to fire a year ago was forced to go to a hotel and with rent being 60 a night plus food cigs gas car insurance car payment kids and anything else my cost if living is substantial so drugs wouldn't even figure into my financial situation.

[QUOTE=Bucks97;2057127]With the cost of living in Cincinnati, non-drug-addicted women really don't need to be escorts to make a living for the most part. I think the college girls working their way through school this way can do so more readily by seeking out sugar daddies rather than advertising continuously. So you really have mostly drug addicts working the trade here, and once they've got an arrest or two, they really don't have nearly as much choice. If you're talking about bigger cities with higher rents, you really do have college or grad students or others with decent jobs escorting on the side to pay rent.

I know many guys believe their faves here aren't drug addicts. But, as I've said before, you are probably wrong. Take this as advice from someone who has believed the same thing, only to be proved wrong over and over again. The reason the trade is thriving here is largely because heroin is thriving here.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Bucks97;2057127]With the cost of living in Cincinnati, non-drug-addicted women really don't need to be escorts to make a living for the most part. I think the college girls working their way through school this way can do so more readily by seeking out sugar daddies rather than advertising continuously. So you really have mostly drug addicts working the trade here, and once they've got an arrest or two, they really don't have nearly as much choice. If you're talking about bigger cities with higher rents, you really do have college or grad students or others with decent jobs escorting on the side to pay rent.

I know many guys believe their faves here aren't drug addicts. But, as I've said before, you are probably wrong. Take this as advice from someone who has believed the same thing, only to be proved wrong over and over again. The reason the trade is thriving here is largely because heroin is thriving here.[/QUOTE]I'll start this with You don't know what the fuck you're talking about!

I didn't really mean that, I just haven't said it in awhile.

Here, since ala carte is both legal and WIDELY available (30,000 sex workers in Buenos Aires) you don't see a lot of sugar daddy deals. One of the main reasons you see it up there (IMHO) is because it's against the law, guys want to find something hot, AND safe. If there were 500 hotties that were safe why would you pay 20 K a month when you could pay 100 an hour while you're actually using the service and have a bunch to choose from?

I'm sure there would be some SB action, just as there is here because some guys dig the idea of (but generally not the reality of) exclusivity.

[QUOTE=BuyingSmiles;2057310]I was in the mood for a little body rub today. I wanted more than what I get from the AMP that I visit for a serious massage. So I contacted Heather. I had texted with her a few times in past, just never had a good time for both of us. After seeing someone blast her and her room mate today about being a rip off, I had to see for my self. (no such thing as bad publicity I guess) A few text, a short phone call and an hour later I was on my way.

I Spent an hour with this hot little spinner. She has a very nice little body & great personality. Nice incall location, I felt safe, it was clean & comfortable. Not even close to a therapeutic massage but a very sensual woman's touch. If you like the feel of a woman rubbing and caressing you from head to toe, you will will enjoy her body rub. I certainly enjoyed it. My session lasted about an hour on the nose but it was a very comfortable hour. Never was she in a rush. She finished me off with an amazing BBBJ. And I mean fished me off!

We discussed her menu earlier and although I didn't enjoy FS it was on menu. She also offers two girl action with her room mate. Her rate was $.5 Hour. A bit much for just BBBJ you might say but FS wasn't denied just never got that far. I was 100% satisfied. I will repeat as funds allow. Next time I'll enjoy the FS.

As they say YMMV. For me, she was nothing close to a rip off. She was worth every penny! Hell I'm getting involuntary moment in my lower abdominal area just thinking about her now![/QUOTE]If you did a hour you should get two pops.

[QUOTE=BigMike77;2057418]If you did a hour you should get two pops.[/QUOTE]So, now your telling me how I should spend my time? Tell you what, when you pay for my time, you can tell me when and how to pop. What part of 100% satisfied don't you get?

Does anyone here besides me have a tendency to start busting out laughing during climax? Been dealing with this for years. I also yell out famous brand names of candy.

[QUOTE=Glockman;2055546]Yes, if you like DATY it's all you can eat.[/QUOTE]If she puts a dollar in her belt, it's ALL you can EAT under a DOLLAR!

[QUOTE=NKY747;2057643]Does anyone here besides me have a tendency to start busting out laughing during climax? Been dealing with this for years. I also yell out famous brand names of candy.[/QUOTE]Only if I'm with a babe named Ruth.

[QUOTE=BigMike77;2057418]If you did a hour you should get two pops.[/QUOTE]Some of us are lucky to get one pop.

[QUOTE=Glockman;2057763]Some of us are lucky to get one pop.[/QUOTE]What kind of water do they drink G?

[QUOTE=Admin2;2057301]I'll start this with You don't know what the fuck you're talking about!

I didn't really mean that, I just haven't said it in awhile.

Here, since ala carte is both legal and WIDELY available (30,000 sex workers in Buenos Aires) you don't see a lot of sugar daddy deals. One of the main reasons you see it up there (IMHO) is because it's against the law, guys want to find something hot, AND safe. If there were 500 hotties that were safe why would you pay 20 K a month when you could pay 100 an hour while you're actually using the service and have a bunch to choose from?

I'm sure there would be some SB action, just as there is here because some guys dig the idea of (but generally not the reality of) exclusivity.[/QUOTE]This may actually be more of an urban legend, or the dream of some college girls, than a reality around here. What I can say with virtual certainty is that there are very few if any actual college students in Cincinnati actively escorting on the side for any length of time. They may do it occasionally and then disappear from the scene, and I've suspected they disappear into some kind of long-term sugar-daddy arrangements at times. In this, I'm not counting girls who are college age and escorting, of which there are many. And I'm not counting girls who work for the ripoff agencies, some of whom may well be college students.

Of all the actively advertising and performing escorts in Cincinnati, I can think of maybe one who was actively pursuing a post-secondary degree, and even she has stopped advertising to my knowledge, possibly because she has enough regulars at this point or another job. But it's pretty much the dream of mongers that these college student / escorts exist, or can be recruited. I'm just not seeing it, I'm afraid. The number of girls with other career prospects who want to do ugly old guys for money is pretty slim. Sorry guys. I'd be happy to be proved wrong.

[QUOTE=Bucks97;2057796]This may actually be more of an urban legend, or the dream of some college girls, than a reality around here. What I can say with virtual certainty is that there are very few if any actual college students in Cincinnati actively escorting on the side for any length of time. They may do it occasionally and then disappear from the scene, and I've suspected they disappear into some kind of long-term sugar-daddy arrangements at times. In this, I'm not counting girls who are college age and escorting, of which there are many. And I'm not counting girls who work for the ripoff agencies, some of whom may well be college students.

Of all the actively advertising and performing escorts in Cincinnati, I can think of maybe one who was actively pursuing a post-secondary degree, and even she has stopped advertising to my knowledge, possibly because she has enough regulars at this point or another job. But it's pretty much the dream of mongers that these college student / escorts exist, or can be recruited. I'm just not seeing it, I'm afraid. The number of girls with other career prospects who want to do ugly old guys for money is pretty slim. Sorry guys. I'd be happy to be proved wrong.[/QUOTE]First the idea of MPOP is unknown in Argentina, your time is your time, if you can pop 20 times in an hour get it.

This is an example of the College Students that are working their way through college here [URL]http://www.soloindependientes.com/escorts-acompanantes/Agostyna_15-3859-4651_887.htm[/URL].