Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=JoeLooking;2308779]I would argue that lower tips can actually lead to better service. Because of the culture in the US a certain tip is often the expectation without quality of service to go along with it. If the standard tip decreases then those who do more will get more. I've also found that a lot of people in the sex trade don't make as much as they though they would or they feel they would deserve.

Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]It would be nice if there was a simple cut and dry answer to the tip debate, tip more get more pleasure and keep the girls that deliver the goods here? Tip less until their bottom financial line starts to suffer then they start offering more to stay in business?

Like Forest Gump said, it's probably a little bit of both happening at the same time. Fella's this is a fairly new business in this area trying to sort itself out on what to offer us guys. It's mostly Chinese now around here, if the Koreans or Hispanics start up its a whole new ball game. I don't know the answer but I do know as far as what to tip for me at least it has come down to what relationship I have established with certain stores and certain girls. If no relationship is there it's the standard tip that has been set by the majority. My 2 cents.

[QUOTE=JoeLooking;2308779]I would argue that lower tips can actually lead to better service. Because of the culture in the US a certain tip is often the expectation without quality of service to go along with it. If the standard tip decreases then those who do more will get more. I've also found that a lot of people in the sex trade don't make as much as they though they would or they feel they would deserve.

Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]I would agree in a closed system. But the best talent tends to be highly mobile; how often has a girl "gone back to New York" because she wasn't making enough here? I fear that trying to starve out the girls to increase competition and service will only result in a stymied influx of new masseuses, and ultimately, less parlors and less competition.

[QUOTE=jobobtheclown;2309482]I would agree in a closed system. But the best talent tends to be highly mobile; how often has a girl "gone back to New York" because she wasn't making enough here? I fear that trying to starve out the girls to increase competition and service will only result in a stymied influx of new masseuses, and ultimately, less parlors and less competition.[/QUOTE]The talent situation already is very bad. I went one time to Holiday and I just tapped out of mongering at AMPs here since I moved here a few months ago. Wasn't a bad experience, just way less than stellar. For that similar amount of money, I could have way more fun with better talent.

As for AMP market here, I think a lot more money (to the providers and any maybe police) would have to be poured in to make talented AMP providers come here. It's not the lack of tips, it's the lack of income and the crackdowns that happen at places that offer extras. It's the bible-belt. Lower income for most clientele, and the righteous locals will not tolerate these places operating as brothels. Just looking at the typical income for mongers here is, I don't see why mobile providers would want to work here. Maybe learn the ropes or something here, but definitely move onto where the volume of mongers, tips and upsells (extras) are allowed.

On a less controversial note, the last time I went to Super Relax on 54/55 was about a year ago, and there was nothing to be had. I dropped by today and found it much more enjoyable.

Went to Yucca last week.

1 hour with Lisa $60 door, tip $40.

Short dress, thong (nice) roaming allowed everywhere standard rub & tug. No FS on the menu she says the owner is very strict about NO FS. Apparently they have the feeling FS is what is shutting the other places down. I got the vibe she wanted to but was paranoid.

[QUOTE=jobobtheclown;2310165]On a less controversial note, the last time I went to Super Relax on 54/55 was about a year ago, and there was nothing to be had. I dropped by today and found it much more enjoyable.[/QUOTE]Put in some time with them to get response. But once you are established it is ok. Nothing like RR used to be, but better therapeutic massage is available there too.

[QUOTE=Parkville;2310131]The talent situation already is very bad. I went one time to Holiday and I just tapped out of mongering at AMPs here since I moved here a few months ago. Wasn't a bad experience, just way less than stellar. For that similar amount of money, I could have way more fun with better talent.

As for AMP market here, I think a lot more money (to the providers and any maybe police) would have to be poured in to make talented AMP providers come here. It's not the lack of tips, it's the lack of income and the crackdowns that happen at places that offer extras. It's the bible-belt. Lower income for most clientele, and the righteous locals will not tolerate these places operating as brothels. Just looking at the typical income for mongers here is, I don't see why mobile providers would want to work here. Maybe learn the ropes or something here, but definitely move onto where the volume of mongers, tips and upsells (extras) are allowed.[/QUOTE]Has the power to determine a lot of what goes on. We share info and feedback on providers and it causes shifts in the economics of the staffs and hence changes the behaviours of the girls. For example, Studio Salon. Once Wendy and Coco left we all reported the lowering of quality and what was available. And that place is suffering for such.

I agree the tips got out of hand for a bit. That was mostly due to and at Red Rose. But things have normalized a lot and that is due to us saying so. And as long as we reward the girls that provide the better service without attitude it will continue to improve.

Took a trip to westgate road and was met my wendy. She's not a knockout or anything special but had a good time. Paid. 7 at the door. She seemed to act like she knew me and maybe I've seen her before but I honestly couldn't remember. Massage was below average but she offered a second release which I gladly allowed. Sweet girl and because of the holiday spirit I gave. 6 as a tip. She was super excited and couldn't stop thanking me and wanted to make sure when I come back to remember her name is wendy. It's nice when they don't harass you for tips and are genuinely excited with what you offer them.

It looks like T&W massage in knightdale is now closed. A shame they had the best prices around 50 for the hour. They were only open for about six months.

I don't known if its for good or a temp type of thing.

AMPs The Short List.
Numbers keept the same to avoid confusion.
All "I" and "C" rated APMs removed except Number 7 because of the Back Walking. Several AMPs upgraded.
Corrections and debate welcome.
Hopfully this will save time for most.

P+ 1) Superrelax Chinese Spa 2223 J highway NC 54 (I40 Exit 278) Durham NC 27713 919-248-9000.
P+ 2) Massage Atsu Cary 102-L Commonwealth Court Cary NC (919) 388-8889.
P+ 5) Yucca also uses Orient Salon 124 SW Maynard Road, # A Cary. NC 27511 (919) 741-4072.
P- 6) Apex Massage Spa 5623 Duraleigh Road, Suite 131. (919) 781 4888.
"C" 7) Asian Body Massage & Therapy 3672 Capital Blvd, Raleigh, NC 27604.919-878-1666. But great Back Walking.
P- 8) Oriental Body Massage 6320 Capital Blvd, Raleigh, NC 27616 (919) 871-3117.
P- 9) Emily China Spa 3601 Capital blvd #111 Raleigh NC 27604 919-872-2223.
E 10) Asian Massage 1373 SE Maynard Road, Cary NC 27511.919-741-6078.
P+ 11) Studio Salon Massage 922 NE Maynard Road Cary NC 27513 919-388-1177.
P+ 12) Massage Atsu Garner 40 East Exit 312 Garner NC (919) 329-0090.
P+ 16) Eden Spa 2436 SW Cary Parkway Cary, NC. 27513 919-377-2607.
E 18) VIP ASIAN SPA Weathers Ct Youngsville NC 27596 919) 570-5060.
P+ 20) SuperRelax (X Asia Massage) 548 Huffman Mill Road, Burlington NC Right off 85&40 Exit 141 336-270-6547.
P- 23) Suncity Spas Massage 2891 Jones Franklin Road, Raleigh NC 919-348-2410.
P- 24) MiMi Massage 137 O'Neal St. Burlington, NC 27215 336-395-8971.
P- 25) SuperRelax 5533 Hwy 42 West, Unit A-12 Garner NC 919-779-9937.
P+ 26) Asian Relax Center 6405 Westgate Rd, Unit 125 , Raleigh NC 919 881 8489.
P+ 28) Holiday Spa 154 Morrisville Square Way, Morrisville NC 27560 919-377-2786 & 919-370-6490.
P+ 29) You-Relax Spa 750-the East Chatham Street, Cary NC 27511.919-378-9364.
P+ 30) Touch of Asia 811 E. Williams Street Apex NC 919 387-8282.
P+ 32) Eastern Spa 800 West Williams Street #152 Apex NC 919-372-8233.
P- 34) Colony Massage 5416 Six Forks Road Reilgh NC 919-846-9999.
P 37) Asian Remedy Unit E 5410 Hwy 55 Durhanm NC (919) 206-1555.
P 38) Asian Massage Health 11490 US 70 Bus. Hwy W Clayton NC 27520 (919) 243-0678.

Letter code.
"C" difficult.
"P " possible + or - Gives a better indication. YMMV.
E easy.

[QUOTE=Jimjim77;2311182]AMPs The Short List.
Numbers keept the same to avoid confusion.
All "I" and "C" rated APMs removed except Number 7 because of the Back Walking. Several AMPs upgraded.
Corrections and debate welcome.
Hopfully this will save time for most.

P+ 1) Superrelax Chinese Spa 2223 J highway NC 54 (I40 Exit 278) Durham NC 27713 919-248-9000.
P+ 2) Massage Atsu Cary 102-L Commonwealth Court Cary NC (919) 388-8889.
P+ 5) Yucca also uses Orient Salon 124 SW Maynard Road, # A Cary. NC 27511 (919) 741-4072.
P- 6) Apex Massage Spa 5623 Duraleigh Road, Suite 131. (919) 781 4888.
"C" 7) Asian Body Massage & Therapy 3672 Capital Blvd, Raleigh, NC 27604.919-878-1666. But great Back Walking.
P- 8) Oriental Body Massage 6320 Capital Blvd, Raleigh, NC 27616 (919) 871-3117.
P- 9) Emily China Spa 3601 Capital blvd #111 Raleigh NC 27604 919-872-2223.
E 10) Asian Massage 1373 SE Maynard Road, Cary NC 27511.919-741-6078.
P+ 11) Studio Salon Massage 922 NE Maynard Road Cary NC 27513 919-388-1177.
P+ 12) Massage Atsu Garner 40 East Exit 312 Garner NC (919) 329-0090.
P+ 16) Eden Spa 2436 SW Cary Parkway Cary, NC. 27513 919-377-2607.
E 18) VIP ASIAN SPA Weathers Ct Youngsville NC 27596 919) 570-5060.
P+ 20) SuperRelax (X Asia Massage) 548 Huffman Mill Road, Burlington NC Right off 85&40 Exit 141 336-270-6547.
P- 23) Suncity Spas Massage 2891 Jones Franklin Road, Raleigh NC 919-348-2410.
P- 24) MiMi Massage 137 O'Neal St. Burlington, NC 27215 336-395-8971.
P- 25) SuperRelax 5533 Hwy 42 West, Unit A-12 Garner NC 919-779-9937.
P+ 26) Asian Relax Center 6405 Westgate Rd, Unit 125 , Raleigh NC 919 881 8489.
P+ 28) Holiday Spa 154 Morrisville Square Way, Morrisville NC 27560 919-377-2786 & 919-370-6490.
P+ 29) You-Relax Spa 750-the East Chatham Street, Cary NC 27511.919-378-9364.
P+ 30) Touch of Asia 811 E. Williams Street Apex NC 919 387-8282.
P+ 32) Eastern Spa 800 West Williams Street #152 Apex NC 919-372-8233.
P- 34) Colony Massage 5416 Six Forks Road Reilgh NC 919-846-9999.
P 37) Asian Remedy Unit E 5410 Hwy 55 Durhanm NC (919) 206-1555.
P 38) Asian Massage Health 11490 US 70 Bus. Hwy W Clayton NC 27520 (919) 243-0678.

Letter code.
"C" difficult.
"P " possible + or - Gives a better indication. YMMV.
E easy.[/QUOTE]Thank you for everything, JimJim. Your list has made it easier for all of us. It is spot on for the places I have visited.

[QUOTE=EdGein;2310787]Put in some time with them to get response. But once you are established it is ok. Nothing like RR used to be, but better therapeutic massage is available there too.[/QUOTE]As I have reported here before more is available if you are nice, respectful and have made enough visits to develop a rapport with ALL of the girls. All of the girls is important as I believe they watch out for each other. EdGein is right that it is not as RR was however it can cum close. No pun intended.

Went there before and yes some extras are on the table. However this place is off my list. My most recent visit did not make me want to come back. First the linen smell like they are not washing them with anything other than water. Thinking maybe I can get passed the smell if the service is great so I proceed. I see a lady named coco, not the coco that has been know for doing great massages. It started with the weakest back rub I ever had, and I have had some weak ones. About 14 minutes into the massage she said turn over and puts a hand on jr. Then asks for tip. We come to an agreement for nude +BJ (mistake was tipping first). So now she goes to work trying to stay out of hands reach. I eventually get a her to come closer and it turns into top side only and dodge ball on the bottom half. She finally finishes up with a hand shake because she was tired and in a rush. At this time we are 28 minutes into my 1 hr massage. She said ok I'm finish I said no look at the clock 30 more minutes. So she then starts to rub my neck for 2 minutes then stops again, after that I was done. I could have made a big deal about it but why bother, just take my business else where. Note to self never tip first if not one of your trusted providers.

Sorry I did have a warning on them 2 lists ago, I should have left in on. They are always easy but many complain about being rushed.

[QUOTE=BrownRod;2311777]Went there before and yes some extras are on the table. However this place is off my list. My most recent visit did not make me want to come back. First the linen smell like they are not washing them with anything other than water. Thinking maybe I can get passed the smell if the service is great so I proceed. I see a lady named coco, not the coco that has been know for doing great massages. It started with the weakest back rub I ever had, and I have had some weak ones. About 14 minutes into the massage she said turn over and puts a hand on jr. Then asks for tip. We come to an agreement for nude +BJ (mistake was tipping first). So now she goes to work trying to stay out of hands reach. I eventually get a her to come closer and it turns into top side only and dodge ball on the bottom half. She finally finishes up with a hand shake because she was tired and in a rush. At this time we are 28 minutes into my 1 hr massage. She said ok I'm finish I said no look at the clock 30 more minutes. So she then starts to rub my neck for 2 minutes then stops again, after that I was done. I could have made a big deal about it but why bother, just take my business else where. Note to self never tip first if not one of your trusted providers.[/QUOTE]

I appreciate the feedback. I try to visit them all, but it's hard when you get treated so well at some, and others just aren't as good. You just want to go back to the ones you like. So I need feed back to improve the list.

[QUOTE=MisterT69;2311465]Thank you for everything, JimJim. Your list has made it easier for all of us. It is spot on for the places I have visited.[/QUOTE]