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[QUOTE=Watk5399;2306233]Looks like her ratings are terrible. Mayde someone has already TOFT.[/QUOTE]She has been reviewed on this site before. More escort than masseuse. Her massage consist of rubbing lotion on your back. She is a big girl that has lost a lot of weight so she has flabby and flappy skin. The whole time she is going to call you daddy like you are transported back to the 1920's. Nice girl but not my thing. Goggle the email address for photos.
[QUOTE=Dude39;2306155]Any one tried this one? She goes with name Sind; Email: nawtybodyrub at hotm.
[URL]http://www.escortexam.com/eyqam8fv[/URL]
She is only does in day time Monday to Friday, by evening her adv will be gone and morning it will popup.
Some one please share if you tried? Appreciate your feedback.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]I tried to give her a chance way back. She is only available when her ad is up and that varies from day to day. She doesn't schedule in advance and if the ad isn't up you won't even get a response. I don't chase anyone to take my money so she's off the list.
[QUOTE=Dude39;2306155]Any one tried this one? She goes with name Sind; Email: nawtybodyrub at hotm.
[URL]http://www.escortexam.com/eyqam8fv[/URL]
She is only does in day time Monday to Friday, by evening her adv will be gone and morning it will popup.
Some one please share if you tried? Appreciate your feedback.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Dude,
I tried her quite awhile back. Nice incall locale (providing you are in or near Cary). Honestly, that was all that was 'attractive' about the encounter with her. Not bad, but not great either. The haggle for a 'tip' afterwards sealed the deal as a non-repeat for me.
As stated, don't expect any massage here; this is FS from start to finish.
Cheers!
Thresh.
[QUOTE=Donatello;2305704]Decided to relieve some stress at a local AMP, and Holiday was nearby. I've had great times in the past with Amy (young, short hair, tight little body) and was hoping to find her. Sadly not, but a sweet 30/40 lady greeted me, so I decided to stay and relax. TS was nice, very sensual and playful. Back in the room, nice firm massage, with some OTC roaming allowed. On the flip, started right at the pole. Sadly, under her jeans shorts and tank top she was wearing a full length body stocking. Turns out she walks home so was extra prepared for the cold with layers. Made UTC roaming impossible and wasn't open to removal. Lots of "shhh" motions when I'd ask quietly. Applied lots of soft wet kisses to my chest, tummy, near the boys, but never further. Offered more tipping but declined with "shhh's" and smiles. Despite a few times where she was a bit too aggressive (no need to choke and try to break in half, hunny) I erupted hard some in her hair. She cleaned me up, and finished massage. After returning with my water, she patted my crotch and said "next time, maybe more. " I smiled, and handed her 30 for tip. She looked a little sad, and I patted her ass saying "next time, maybe more. ".
Stand firm, gents. These ladies know what they're doing, and as others have noted, overtipping for simple HE will discourage other menu options to appear. Best of luck, and be smart out there.[/QUOTE]I've been lurking here for awhile but after reading this post I had to register so I could reply:
BAM! What a great response! That's the kind of response I always think of much later and think "I should have done that!
Did you happen to catch the name? First time I went to Holiday I dropped 30 and got the sad face too. I caved and added 10. Second time I dropped 40 and again got the sad face (same girl). She asked if I couldn't do 50. I said no 50 is all I have.
[QUOTE=Donatello;2305704]Decided to relieve some stress at a local AMP, and Holiday was nearby. I've had great times in the past with Amy (young, short hair, tight little body) and was hoping to find her. Sadly not, but a sweet 30/40 lady greeted me, so I decided to stay and relax. TS was nice, very sensual and playful. Back in the room, nice firm massage, with some OTC roaming allowed. On the flip, started right at the pole. Sadly, under her jeans shorts and tank top she was wearing a full length body stocking. Turns out she walks home so was extra prepared for the cold with layers. Made UTC roaming impossible and wasn't open to removal. Lots of "shhh" motions when I'd ask quietly. Applied lots of soft wet kisses to my chest, tummy, near the boys, but never further. Offered more tipping but declined with "shhh's" and smiles. Despite a few times where she was a bit too aggressive (no need to choke and try to break in half, hunny) I erupted hard some in her hair. She cleaned me up, and finished massage. After returning with my water, she patted my crotch and said "next time, maybe more. " I smiled, and handed her 30 for tip. She looked a little sad, and I patted her ass saying "next time, maybe more. ".
Stand firm, gents. These ladies know what they're doing, and as others have noted, overtipping for simple HE will discourage other menu options to appear. Best of luck, and be smart out there.[/QUOTE]"Walks home"? I was under the impression they lived at the shop until their time was up and they went back to NY. Those who know the girls better: am I wrong? Do they show up like a normal job?
Most live in a house or shared apartment within walking distance. Only a few actually live at an AMP. Some have cars and live with a SO.
Some live close but alone or with a "friend".
Raleigh is like a lot of places where the girls are not bound to an AMP but can be independent if they have good English and money. I. e. Not in servitude. Lots of time they start up their own AMP if they have the money and English skills.
Without skills or money they will be moved by the AMP OWNER till they can go on their own or hook a customer SD or husband.
[QUOTE=jobobtheclown;2306917]"Walks home"? I was under the impression they lived at the shop until their time was up and they went back to NY. Those who know the girls better: am I wrong? Do they show up like a normal job?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jimjim77;2306938]Most live in a house or shared apartment within walking distance. Only a few actually live at an AMP. Some have cars and live with a SO.
Some live close but alone or with a "friend".
Raleigh is like a lot of places where the girls are not bound to an AMP but can be independent if they have good English and money. I. e. Not in servitude. Lots of time they start up their own AMP if they have the money and English skills.
Without skills or money they will be moved by the AMP OWNER till they can go on their own or hook a customer SD or husband.[/QUOTE]JimJim's right, either way the living conditions of most of these girls are fare to poor to say the least. Those of us that have been behind the scenes with these girls know. If they are in a apartment it is usually shared with many other girls as well as the bath kitchen fridge etc. And there is no furniture Imagine sharing your space with 4 or 5 people you have just put in a 12 hour day with everyday. When they sleep in the store, their bed is usually the same hard ass table we get our HJ's on. And they spend the night in the place they have been all day how fast would that take to get old. Most of these girls don't drive so they can't go anywhere unless the owner takes them which is usually to buy food once a week. And by the way where they sleep is not free they pay rent. I know the first thought is hey they choose this profession and some are making some decent cash that said, treat these girls with some respect even if you are calculating how much tip to give or not to give. Respect is free, and if a girl really likes you she will be more than happy to treat you well and possibly want to give you her phone number just so she can get the hell out of the store for a few hours. It's not all about the tips
[QUOTE=XHippie;2307036]JimJim's right, either way the living conditions of most of these girls are fare to poor to say the least. Those of us that have been behind the scenes with these girls know. If they are in a apartment it is usually shared with many other girls as well as the bath kitchen fridge etc. And there is no furniture Imagine sharing your space with 4 or 5 people you have just put in a 12 hour day with everyday. When they sleep in the store, their bed is usually the same hard ass table we get our HJ's on. And they spend the night in the place they have been all day how fast would that take to get old. Most of these girls don't drive so they can't go anywhere unless the owner takes them which is usually to buy food once a week. And by the way where they sleep is not free they pay rent. I know the first thought is hey they choose this profession and some are making some decent cash that said, treat these girls with some respect even if you are calculating how much tip to give or not to give. Respect is free, and if a girl really likes you she will be more than happy to treat you well and possibly want to give you her phone number just so she can get the hell out of the store for a few hours. It's not all about the tips[/QUOTE]Well this kind of makes me sad. It definitely puts a new perspective on the hobby. I guess in my head I had convinced myself that this was so far removed from sex slavery and that these girls just really love pleasing guys. But thinking about it from this angle makes me feel guilty for participating.
[QUOTE=Thresh;2306484]Dude,
I tried her quite awhile back. Nice incall locale (providing you are in or near Cary). Honestly, that was all that was 'attractive' about the encounter with her. Not bad, but not great either. The haggle for a 'tip' afterwards sealed the deal as a non-repeat for me.
As stated, don't expect any massage here; this is FS from start to finish.
Cheers!
Thresh.[/QUOTE]Thanks everyone for their good feedback.
[QUOTE=SlantedLights;2307216]Well this kind of makes me sad. It definitely puts a new perspective on the hobby. I guess in my head I had convinced myself that this was so far removed from sex slavery and that these girls just really love pleasing guys. But thinking about it from this angle makes me feel guilty for participating.[/QUOTE]I have spoken at length with one of the girls from a local AMP. According to her, many of these girls feel a strong obligation (responsibility) to their family back in China. They go to Western Union regularly and send most of their money to parents and / or siblings. Many do not enjoy giving HE, they do it so that they will get better tips so that they have more money to send home. They aren't buying fancy clothes, luxury cars, expensive jewelry. They are providing support for their families.
Ever since I found out, I have tried to tip for non-HE at a rate of about $10 per half hour. Then I give some extra when a HE is offered, but I don't push too hard. Most of us know where HE is normally given without question so that is where we go when that is what we want. If I go somewhere else, I let the girls decide on the level of service they want to provide and tip accordingly.
Bottom line: don't feel guilty. They know what they are doing. Their motivation is just not what you might otherwise expect.
[QUOTE=LuvMassage;2307627]I have spoken at length with one of the girls from a local AMP. According to her, many of these girls feel a strong obligation (responsibility) to their family back in China. They go to Western Union regularly and send most of their money to parents and / or siblings. Many do not enjoy giving HE, they do it so that they will get better tips so that they have more money to send home. They aren't buying fancy clothes, luxury cars, expensive jewelry. They are providing support for their families.
Ever since I found out, I have tried to tip for non-HE at a rate of about $10 per half hour. Then I give some extra when a HE is offered, but I don't push too hard. Most of us know where HE is normally given without question so that is where we go when that is what we want. If I go somewhere else, I let the girls decide on the level of service they want to provide and tip accordingly.
Bottom line: don't feel guilty. They know what they are doing. Their motivation is just not what you might otherwise expect.[/QUOTE]Exactly, my point was not to feel sorry or guilty, just be respectful. It's supply and demand at work.
Went to atsu today and was told that the hot girl (eva) has left, for good. Damn, I just missed her by a whisker. Another monger was 10 seconds ahead of me and got the hottie. She asked if I can wait for 30 minutes and I promised I will be back looking for her the next time, and now she is in NYC and probably will never be back. As for the reason, the girl I had today told me "she is not making as much money as she expected".
[QUOTE=Lpmrhahn;2298388]Seems to be about the only place I go anymore LOL. Went in around 7 pm, place was dead, but a new girl came up and greeted me. I for the life of me can't remember her name, but she's hot! Apparently she also got he memo that short shorts, tank tops, and flip flops are the way to go. ...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=StoneAge;2308251]Went to atsu today and was told that the hot girl (eva) has left, for good. Damn, I just missed her by a whisker. Another monger was 10 seconds ahead of me and got the hottie. She asked if I can wait for 30 minutes and I promised I will be back looking for her the next time, and now she is in NYC and probably will never be back. As for the reason, the girl I had today told me "she is not making as much money as she expected".[/QUOTE]And THAT would be the true result of those trying to drive tip prices down. It's not a closed system, guys; tip generously.
[QUOTE=jobobtheclown;2308534]And THAT would be the true result of those trying to drive tip prices down. It's not a closed system, guys; tip generously.[/QUOTE]Tip prices or volume will never be as much as it is in new york. In this area when a girl gets 40 extra that's pretty good. When she goes beyond the call of duty then she should get more, like the now retired red rose ladies use to do. Tips are not free.
[QUOTE=jobobtheclown;2308534]And THAT would be the true result of those trying to drive tip prices down. It's not a closed system, guys; tip generously.[/QUOTE]I would argue that lower tips can actually lead to better service. Because of the culture in the US a certain tip is often the expectation without quality of service to go along with it. If the standard tip decreases then those who do more will get more. I've also found that a lot of people in the sex trade don't make as much as they though they would or they feel they would deserve.
Just my opinion.