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[QUOTE=MettLife; 1369413]Listen I know I might be just "dreamin" but I have also spent the 140 on top of the house fee for FS before. I knew it was too much at the time. But I was in need.

Now for a quick visit. 60 seems it would be enough for a HJ. Think about it. You can get a qv with a girl from BP for 40-80 so why can't we do the same for AMP.[/QUOTE]Again. Listen to what you are saying.

You know you are paying too much, yet you do anyway, c'mon, how much sympathy do you expect?

It's guys like you that raise the expectations of these girls.

Take your own advise and go get yourself a budget BP gal and stay away from the AMPs.

I don't post much but wanted to weigh in on this one. It's easy to see how people simply get accustomed to being paid more and simply expecting it from now on, almost an entitlement. I believe we should pay for what we get, if it's lousy, very little tip. If it's great, a better tip. Just like service in a restaurant. I hate it when the tip is "expected", even worse when they sulk because the tip isn't enough. I like the. 4 tip for a really nice HE. We should stick to something in that range except for over-achievers.

[QUOTE=Cmpatlkn; 1370044]Again. Listen to what you are saying.

You know you are paying too much, yet you do anyway, see'mon, how much sympathy do you expect?

It's guys like you that raise the expectations of these girls.

Take your own advise and go get yourself a budget BP gal and stay away from the AMPs.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cmpatlkn; 1370044]Again. Listen to what you are saying.

You know you are paying too much, yet you do anyway, see'mon, how much sympathy do you expect?

It's guys like you that raise the expectations of these girls.

Take your own advise and go get yourself a budget BP gal and stay away from the AMPs.[/QUOTE]Agreed, some guys are getting way too psychologically invested in the outcome and as such are getting screwed over in a bad way.

If the girls cut is $20 for the hour and she draws 4 customers a day working 5 days a week, she's earning $20k a year. That's not great but in this economy it's acceptable. Of course they could take the mad skills they have in other fields and make more money. Oh wait, that's right, they don't have mad skills in other areas, so $20k is a decent base.

From there, tips are based on service and say each guy gives her $20, that's an additional $20k putting her at $40k per year, solidly middle class. A 25% tip is decent.

The basic act we're talking about is pretty much the least intensive part of the whole experience. So to say that's worth $40, a 50% tip, is a little outrageous.

There's a little risk involved but frankly risk is involved in our end as well.

These crazy tips are all predicated on the idea that men should be ashamed of perfectly natural desires and as such should pay through the nose so a much more highly evolved woman will lower herself to our level to satisfy them. This idea is endemic in our culture. Fuck that, I like my dick, he's large and powerful, he leads me to interesting situations, every time I listen to my dick without reservation, great things happen. Listen to your dick, it don't like the skanks at all, that's you. My dick likes me and I like him, no shame here.

I would suggest 2 things. 1) Why think in terms of 20? Maybe $30 should be the standard for the basic routine. If she can deliver a better than average experience, she's rewarded for that. 2) It's always a good thing to walk away from at least one session to reinforce the idea that You have some control. If one of these girls stops midway, hands your pants, say "Thanks honey, how about handing me my shoes also." She'll straighten up quickly.

Some of you have questioned my ability to get more service for less money, it's simple, when the basic is on the table, then the all clear is given for more and I'm willing to walk away from the table if I can't get a deal I like.

[QUOTE=Cmpatlkn; 1370044]Again. Listen to what you are saying.

You know you are paying too much, yet you do anyway, see'mon, how much sympathy do you expect?

It's guys like you that raise the expectations of these girls.

Take your own advise and go get yourself a budget BP gal and stay away from the AMPs.[/QUOTE]Well help me out since you have mastered AMP's. What is the master plan so that we all can be on the same page?

I really don't care about the percentage of the cut, even if the house takes 50 on a half hour, thats still 10 dollars for a half hour to the girl, thats 20 dollars an hour, I'm not going to feel bad for a girl because she is "only" making 20 dollars an hour (before tips).

[QUOTE=T Polo;1369630]Most of you know this, but for the few who don't. The split on a $60 1/2 hr is $50 to the house and $10 to the girls. An hour is $60/$20. No house money goes back to the girl ever. Some places even charge towel or supply fees on top of the split. Hence the tips we pay.[/QUOTE]

And it's BS games like this that cause the girls to stop the massage in the middle to negotiate payment for "extras" if "some people" didn't cheap out and stiff the girls like this we probably wouldn't have to put up with mid session negotiations. This is just as bad (in the opposite way) as guys that overtip and make the girls expect too much.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=MettLife;1369379]Cmon I know the game, but I am saying that the mamasan should take care of the girls. If I go to midor or rb and I just pay for massage but tell the girl I have no other money an she does the he. Then I call that a victory. Mabe she won't any more. But there are 8 AMP is charlotte and at least 2 girls in each. Wich means that I can do this 16 times. And by then one of them would have imported (not racial, but factual) another batch of girls.[/QUOTE]

Can't recommend Clarke anymore.

Apparently, Kisten's New Year's resolution was to go legit.

Apparently that resolution lasted only a few weeks. Kisten will be Kisten no matter what.

[QUOTE=IndyBoy; 1371657]Can't recommend Clarke anymore.

Apparently, Kisten's New Year's resolution was to go legit.[/QUOTE]Who / what / where is Clarke?

[QUOTE=MettLife;1370371]Well help me out since you have mastered AMP's. What is the master plan so that we all can be on the same page?[/QUOTE]I don't mean to be your mentor nor your executioner. So if I were you I would first RTFF. You can decide for yourself why sometimes you have success and why you are sometimes disappointed.

And I will tell you this, this 'hobby' includes a business transaction and the most fundamental laws of supply and demand will prevail. Your objective in this hobby is to be on the winning end of that bargain. To do that, you need to understand what motivates your supplier because she sure knows what motivates you.

[QUOTE=WildnCrazyBill;1370119]Listen to your dick, it don't like the skanks at all, that's you. My dick likes me and I like him, no shame here.[/QUOTE]Ha, Ha, Ha that's so funny.

Reminds me popular swedish band in the 90's Roxette and their song "Listen to your dick"

Stopped by perfect 10 the other day and met KIM. If thats really her name, when asking her, she gave a long pause then replied. Petite, cute, super small breasts and tiny ass, but one of the softest kitties I've felt. As usual laughed at the donation, 40, she told me how much she wanted, 100, just for all nude, then it was my turn to laugh at her. That being said, she still took what I offered and I left happy.

Anyone have any luck or are they staying legit?

[QUOTE=Je2010;1373017]Anyone have any luck or are they staying legit?[/QUOTE]I've been 3 times and all legit and just like any other salon, but I have not had Laura yet. It would be nice if there were more privacy and flirting. She would be sitting on a gold mine!

I returned to Esthia Spa and to be quite honest I felt a little like Dr Phil during my session. I had a good TS where she flirted with "little Johnny and the eastside boys" and as we proceeded to the room I grabbed her butt and told her it was going to be a good night. She winked! So I figured something would come out of this, so during the nego stage of our time I found out that her FS is limited and it excluded one of my favorite. So she then told me that she is just trying to make a honest living (yet she works in a AMP) and she gets sick and tired of guys trying to barter her services. She went on and on. And the only extra I got other than the norm was she was nude. She is actually pretty to be an older provider, and I found out at times during the day she doesn't even do massages. She told me that they have real cliental so she is a receptionist on most days. Nevertheless if I went back I know that there will be more on the table with her, but no lollipop action.