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[QUOTE=NiceAndQuiet;3067292]Well I spoke too soon! My last relationship just blew up in my face. I have 2 like this. Each led to major drama with threats. One relationship has been revived and is very good.

There are all kinds of different possibilities. Some are short term pay as you go. Others are long term and either pay as you go or monthly "allowance. " Not very cheap though in the long run. And 2 of the 3 wound acting like they were my wife and they blew up if any hint I might also be scanning the wider landscape.[/QUOTE]I had something like this before. She got very upset when she found out I was still contacting girls on line but she had a boy friend as well as seeing me a couple of times a week. I think it was not as much jealousy of me seeing others as thinking some of my disposable income was going elsewhere.

[QUOTE=Zauber;3067581]I had something like this before. She got very upset when she found out I was still contacting girls on line but she had a boy friend as well as seeing me a couple of times a week. I think it was not as much jealousy of me seeing others as thinking some of my disposable income was going elsewhere.[/QUOTE]Along with the $$$ I have found that the "boyfriends" are either management, a cuckold, or another "arrangement". I still call bullshit based on the $$$ quotes I have seen. But I will concede there is always a needle in a haystack!

[QUOTE=Zauber;3067581]I had something like this before. She got very upset when she found out I was still contacting girls on line but she had a boy friend as well as seeing me a couple of times a week. I think it was not as much jealousy of me seeing others as thinking some of my disposable income was going elsewhere.[/QUOTE]That's exactly it. They literally calculate the disposable income they'll get from you and consider it their money. If you're spending their money elsewhere it's a problem in their f'd up minds. Same thing happens at strip clubs. They know which guys are .2, .4 or $ guys and they guard their money.

I say LET THEM guard "their money" with the performance I WANT! (Whatever THAT may be).

[QUOTE=MonacoGP;3067753]That's exactly it. They literally calculate the disposable income they'll get from you and consider it their money. If you're spending their money elsewhere it's a problem in their f'd up minds. Same thing happens at strip clubs. They know which guys are .2, .4 or $ guys and they guard their money.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NiceAndQuiet;3067292]Well I spoke too soon! My last relationship just blew up in my face. I have 2 like this. Each led to major drama with threats. One relationship has been revived and is very good.

There are all kinds of different possibilities. Some are short term pay as you go. Others are long term and either pay as you go or monthly "allowance. " Not very cheap though in the long run. And 2 of the 3 wound acting like they were my wife and they blew up if any hint I might also be scanning the wider landscape.[/QUOTE]Yeah, that killed it for me. Don't need a damn wife or any crazy seudo wife BS.

[QUOTE=NiceAndQuiet;3067295]Seeking Arrangement.[/QUOTE]Gave it a try. The number of spam bot messages made me delete my account.

So you guys all paid the monthly 39.99 or 49.99 (whatever it is) fee? I couldn't get past that so I never signed up.

[QUOTE=SecondTimer;3069212]So you guys all paid the monthly 39.99 or 49.99 (whatever it is) fee? I couldn't get past that so I never signed up.[/QUOTE]Had a free account.

[QUOTE=SecondTimer;3069212]So you guys all paid the monthly 39.99 or 49.99 (whatever it is) fee? I couldn't get past that so I never signed up.[/QUOTE]Free accounts you cannot do messages. I sign up for 30 days ,69 or 79 bucks non recurring and do serious searching. If my script is due to run out I send my email to those I have an interest in. I have had limited success on sa. There are lot of gals that sign on just for kicks but never intend to go the route with anyone. Some are somewhat serious but when time to meet they fly away. Also beware there are many escorts on there. I know of at least 5 or 6 in our area.

[QUOTE=SecondTimer;3069212]So you guys all paid the monthly 39.99 or 49.99 (whatever it is) fee? I couldn't get past that so I never signed up.[/QUOTE]I paid the discounted rate for the first 30 days. I did not re-up but will if what I'm working with runs dry. So far I have two girls that I don't even have to have monthly or per visit arrangements with. Basically one is just DTF all the time and the other I have spoiled of my own accord without her asking for anything. I have one other trying to set up an actual arrangement but I just don't feel the need right now. I also had plenty of conversations with others who were were serious. Met several for lunch / coffee etc. Basically not getting to sexual in the conversation early is key with the ones that aren't used to this type of thing. Good conversation will open doors and legs on this site.

[QUOTE=Akadart;3069927]Free accounts you cannot do messages. I sign up for 30 days ,69 or 79 bucks non recurring and do serious searching. If my script is due to run out I send my email to those I have an interest in. I have had limited success on sa. There are lot of gals that sign on just for kicks but never intend to go the route with anyone. Some are somewhat serious but when time to meet they fly away. Also beware there are many escorts on there. I know of at least 5 or 6 in our area.[/QUOTE]I used to use SA for a while before I came back here, I was looking for an SD / SB thing, or maybe a longterm relationship with an older gent, which I prefer older men anyway. I did hear from some of the men that I did meet for a first date that there are escorts on there, and you don't find out about it until after the first date when the girl has you in the hotel room you paid for after you took her to dinner. That's another matter though.

The thing is, an SD relationship is not chipping in $40 for gas here and there, paying a gals phone bill and taking her to dinner at the Macaroni Grill while you can have all the sex you want, texts and pics included, while most likely also being married. Those are all very nice things to do but Sugar=Money, that's why they are called Sugar Daddies. The benefit is multiple overnights whenever you want, the girl is exclusive with you, and you have the funds necessary to make whatever arrangement necessary to keep this functioning. If you're doing the above thing, you have a side piece, not an SB.

I never was successful on SA because I realized most of the men:

-didn't fill out their profiles.

If you don't take the time to fill out the profile that indicates that you aren't even serious about the search and you're just looking for casual sex, not an arrangement.

-weren't paying for accounts.

If you can't afford an account while you are searching, it makes most girls think you can't afford the relationship. If someone sent me a 'flirt' or whatever telling me to go to their page, and their page only had their email address on it because they didn't bother to fill out the profile, it indicated they weren't paying for a profile and I immediately went "NEXT".

-posting the wrong types of pictures.

Dick picks will get you nowhere. Seriously. I can't tell you how many profile pictures were cocks. I didn't even read messages from those ones. Others didn't even have pictures at all, not even in the 'locked section'. I totally understand wanting to maintain discretion, but then put your pics in the locked section and give the girl access once she gives you hers. None of this "I'll email you pictures" BS. I don't know you, I don't want you to have my email address LOL! And I don't want to create a fake one just for this. Also, have as many as you can, because if a guy had only one, or one from far away or it looked old, I felt like he was hiding something or the picture might be fake.

These are ways to be successful on Seeking Arrangement. If you don't want to do those things, fair enough, but just don't be surprised by bad response. Us women are fickle.

[blue]I think you are missing the point on the dick pics. We post them because we are screening you honey, we aren't being screened by you. We are screening you to eliminate the women that are "fickle" in order to find the ones that understand what the relationship is really about which is exchanging value to get the thing we want without having to put up with the bullshit we don't.

It's also why we don't fill out the forms, we are busy making the money in order to be able to pay for the relationship. We are looking for the chicks that are willing to do the work.

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I've never thought about it like that before, and I am 100% willing to be wrong about things, I really am. I'm just not buying either of those explanations. Maybe you are just smarter than the average bear when it comes to looking for women.

[blue]Which most likely explains why you had no success there. I wasn't supposing sugar, I was teaching. I know for a fact that in the SD/SB world there aren't a lot of guys that have the kind of cash it takes to maintain a sugarbaby. We are talking about a minimum of 30K per year of money that not only is spare, but also doesn't need to be explained where it went. The number of guys that can do that compared to the number of chicks that want it is way, way, WAY in favor of the guys in that pond.

The chicks that are successful aren't the ones making the guys jump through hoops.

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Odette said "The thing is, an SD relationship is not chipping in $40 for gas here and there, paying a gals phone bill and taking her to dinner at the Macaroni Grill while you can have all the sex you want, texts and pics included, while most likely also being married. Those are all very nice things to do but Sugar=Money, that's why they are called Sugar Daddies. The benefit is multiple overnights whenever you want, the girl is exclusive with you, and you have the funds necessary to make whatever arrangement necessary to keep this functioning. If you're doing the above thing, you have a side piece, not an SB. ".

Ones definition of a SB differs from one gal to the next and from one guy to the next. I have my own agenda of what I want out of the relationship and probably the reason I have had limited success. I put the details up front upon meeting. I am not looking to date and SA is not E-Harmony for me. I am very upfront about what the details will be. Every meeting is for a donation agreed upon. This donation depends on many factors that I look at. A SB who has her own incall vs one I have to pick up and go to a local notel certainly merits a higher donation. I have met some who are completely agreeable and some who just not in the scene for a "booty call". Most of these details are discussed in the first meeting, after messaging or emailing, then decisions can be made on each end whether to go further. Now here is my point which goes back to my original post. Messaging, exchange pics then get an overall picture that neither is an ax murderer then set up the meeting. On my end roughly 50-60 % flake out and never make it. As stated many are just in it for a lark or think they can do it but then decide they can't. I will add. I have limited success but I had better success 8-10 years ago as a much younger SD, long before SA was even around. Dart.

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You just don't get it so I'm shutting this down. I tried to help you and have ZERO interest in giving you a platform to fingerwag.

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Well, I am very pleased of what I found now via SA.

1st I have re-connected with my original relationship a very attractive and no holds barred in bed bit older woman. (still younger than me). NSA! I have found this is a must. We had ended earlier because of health concerns for her. We worked out a very reasonable arrangement. Plus I have learned since our 1st go around how tricky this can be. Being clear about NSA is important. The other 2 relationships I had I let get too personal and a bit me in the butt in both.

Then I found in the Clev area a fabulous nuru massage which had me ready to explode from the beginning. Really hot but again NSA. You can find her listed on SA in the Cleveland area. The roses are. 5. She is very thorough in her screening and selective in who is allowed to continue after a he 1st time. If you want more detail on how to find her on SA pm me.