General Reports

[QUOTE=LookingForLefty;1102279]Yep, Karen likes to write a novel about how she doesn't have sex. Just massages you naked. Idiot. She is a lunatic.[/QUOTE]With great respect for Mr. Lefty, I disagree on her being a lunatic. She is a mother who cannot afford to get busted for prostitution. She is supporting her children in the only way she knows, massage. She has tried to learn as much as she can in her own way, but I doubt that she can afford real instruction so she reads every piece of new age, pseudo-medical crap she can find on line. She is comfortable being nude. She is comfortable with you being nude. She doesn't care if you stroke yourself to a HE, but she thinks that if she draws the line there she is safe legally.

In her own way, she is an entrepreneur trying all different things to see what makes money without getting in trouble. She learned the hard way about advertising a business in an area zoned residential only. In her credit she does provide a decent massage. She isn't as bad as Courtney in that she acknowledges the sensual side of this while still trying to draw a line. And yes she is a bad communicator, rambling on in her Web site.

The bottom line is that there are some women who don't know how to make money any other way than massage but don't really find us all as irresistible as we like to think of ourselves. The only way they can have a massage business without constantly having guys try for more is to be very explicit about the limits in their advertising and even then I have been told that 95% of the guys calling are looking for something more. I guess hope springs eternal.

Just wondering if any of you would be willing to recommend a solid black or hispanic provider. I had been scoping out sunshine on BP until I saw the negative reviews a while back, and Lacy from BP looks ok, but I want to go for one with more of that exotic look.

[QUOTE=Flattopper;1102498]Just wondering if any of you would be willing to recommend a solid black or hispanic provider. I had been scoping out sunshine on BP until I saw the negative reviews a while back, and Lacy from BP looks ok, but I want to go for one with more of that exotic look.[/QUOTE]I have seen Lacey and left a very happy man.

Not to be a smart ass but what do you mean by solid black? Dark skinded like they say in the hood?

[QUOTE=ScooterAllCity;1102675]Not to be a smart ass but what do you mean by solid black? Dark skinded like they say in the hood?[/QUOTE]I meant solid in terms of dependable, safe location and not too flakey.

[QUOTE=Pictaker69;1102657]I have seen Lacey and left a very happy man.[/QUOTE]Just to clarify. There are 3 different Lacey's on BP when I do a search. Mind linking us to this lady that made you a happy man?

[QUOTE=Wetboy;1102424]The bottom line is that there are some women who don't know how to make money any other way than massage... [/QUOTE]. Because being a waitress is so complicated?

I am an old geezer that has been with many different women in many different situations (and in many different places). I have found very few women who are massage "therapists", escorts, exotic dancers, etc. Who don't have ALOT of emotional baggage (usually due to sexual abuse). Lately, I just feel lousy about participating in their old abuse issues. The few that do seem half way normal are SO business like and cold that I haven't wanted much to do with them after a few visits. Lets face it the real women gems are the ones you meet in legit ways. After my experiences lately, I am taking a hiatus from this hobby for a while. I still am capable of being in satisfying sexual relationships with normal kinds of women, so that's what I'm going to do.

Good luck to the rest of you.

[QUOTE=Ptbarnum; 1103050]I am an old geezer that has been with many different women in many different situations (and in many different places). I have found very few women who are massage "therapists", escorts, exotic dancers, etc. Who don't have ALOT of emotional baggage (usually due to sexual abuse). Lately, I just feel lousy about participating in their old abuse issues. The few that do seem half way normal are SO business like and cold that I haven't wanted much to do with them after a few visits. Lets face it the real women gems are the ones you meet in legit ways. After my experiences lately, I am taking a hiatus from this hobby for a while. I still am capable of being in satisfying sexual relationships with normal kinds of women, so that's what I'm going to do.

Good luck to the rest of you.[/QUOTE]Your observations are quite accurate. I would only add that escorting tends to make them lazy, and when they start to lose their looks and have to get a real job, they can't handle it. It takes them eight hours to earn what they used to earn in 30 minutes, and for that reason they hang on longer than they should.

I have one friend though, and I do consider her a friend, whom I have known since 1987. We have both aged together and I still consider her quite attractive. We have celebrated birthdays together, gone to movies, out to dinner. Yes, money is exchanged, but she is so easy to get along with and so friendly, she makes me forget that I'm paying for it. I guess that's why I still like her after all these years.

[QUOTE=Lonelyguy128;1103024]. Because being a waitress is so complicated?[/QUOTE]Its not typically possible to make the same $/hour waitressing, in the hours you set yourself, at home and sometimes while the children are present. I'm not saying I approve, just what I observe.

Last night, I am on National, heading toward 27th. A white, full size, cargo van is parked by the McDonalds on 25th (I think 25th). The van honks at me. So, I drive around the block and the van is still there with a WSW. She's blonde. 5'.5'4" ish, hefty and round but more athletic and appears to be 50 or so. Probably in her 40's though. I pick her up, we ride around a few blocks.

I do not do car dates, so, my MO is to get a number for a future time. She did not like this, but I did not see any problems with her getting out of line. When I pull over and stop at the location I picked her up at, the van is gone (no big surprise) and as I ask her if she's like to be dropped off someplace else, she says I need to give her $40. I said no and she starts screaming, tries to put my shifter in park and take my keys. I do not have small bills (just left casino) , I end up giving her $100.

When I started this hobby, I read the forum in great detail; not only in the Wisconsin threads, but in the Rockford threads as well. I consider myself very well informed and not easily intimidated. I let my guard down and got what I had coming.

I have read stories of this sort of thing happening and after picking up many SWs, this is the first. I was shocked (startled) and found myself not quite knowing how I was going to get out of the situation. Her very aggressive method and the loudness of her voice disarmed me and all the thoughts I had in the past about being able to get out of this type of situation were out the door.

Thoughts that crossed my mind while it was happening.

1) I could start hitting her and would probably win the fight, but what attention would that bring. I really do not want to be explaining to LEO what I am doing there.

2) If I start fighting, who was in the van that is watching and can blindside me?

3) What weapons might she have that would cause me to lose said fight and how do I explain to wife and family a stab wound?

4) As I am riffling through $1500 in my hand and she's waiting for me to find a second $20 bill, how long would it have been before she figured out she could get a lot more than $40? Giving her $100 bill was probably a good decision.

5) Why did I disregard all the advice I have read? The money should be in the trunk with just small stuff in my pocket. DUMB ASS.

Don't get lazy out there.

[QUOTE=Turkey John; 1103182]Last night, I am on National, heading toward 27th. A white, full size, cargo van is parked by the McDonalds on 25th (I think 25th). The van honks at me. So, I drive around the block and the van is still there with a WSW. She's blonde. 5'.5'4" ish, hefty and round but more athletic and appears to be 50 or so. Probably in her 40's though. I pick her up, we ride around a few blocks.

I do not do car dates, so, my MO is to get a number for a future time. She did not like this, but I did not see any problems with her getting out of line. When I pull over and stop at the location I picked her up at, the van is gone (no big surprise) and as I ask her if she's like to be dropped off someplace else, she says I need to give her $40. I said no and she starts screaming, tries to put my shifter in park and take my keys. I do not have small bills (just left casino) , I end up giving her $100.

When I started this hobby, I read the forum in great detail; not only in the Wisconsin threads, but in the Rockford threads as well. I consider myself very well informed and not easily intimidated. I let my guard down and got what I had coming.

I have read stories of this sort of thing happening and after picking up many SWs, this is the first. I was shocked (startled) and found myself not quite knowing how I was going to get out of the situation. Her very aggressive method and the loudness of her voice disarmed me and all the thoughts I had in the past about being able to get out of this type of situation were out the door.

Thoughts that crossed my mind while it was happening.

1) I could start hitting her and would probably win the fight, but what attention would that bring. I really do not want to be explaining to LEO what I am doing there.

2) If I start fighting, who was in the van that is watching and can blindside me?

3) What weapons might she have that would cause me to lose said fight and how do I explain to wife and family a stab wound?

4) As I am riffling through $1500 in my hand and she's waiting for me to find a second $20 bill, how long would it have been before she figured out she could get a lot more than $40? Giving her $100 bill was probably a good decision.

5) Why did I disregard all the advice I have read? The money should be in the trunk with just small stuff in my pocket. DUMB ASS.

Don't get lazy out there. [/QUOTE]Leave the wallet in the trunk. Only carry what you plan to spend. I would have driven her to the police department. Tell you got a lot of good friend there that will take your side. Act excited about taking to the LEO's house. She will be glad to get out of the car.

[QUOTE=LookingForLefty;1103221]Leave the wallet in the trunk. Only carry what you plan to spend. I would have driven her to the police department. Tell you got a lot of good friend there that will take your side. Act excited about taking to the LEO's house. She will be glad to get out of the car.[/QUOTE]I thought of the police thing too. After the fact. Easier to say that I would do it after the situation is diffused. I was only thinking. Get me out of this situation. Besides, I do not know where the closest police station is.

[QUOTE=Turkey John;1103240]I thought of the police thing too. After the fact. Easier to say that I would do it after the situation is diffused. I was only thinking. Get me out of this situation. Besides, I do not know where the closest police station is.[/QUOTE]If you are going to cruise for SWs then this IS GOING TO HAPPEN. Few of us are immune. It happened to me one time. I thought I was picking up a regular find but it turned out to be someone else. She got in the car and was full of scabs. I told I made a mistake and thought she was someone else. She refused to leave the car unless I gave her some money. I just blew up and read her the riot act. She got scared and got out. But I was scared too, drove home and didn't go cruising for weeks.

[QUOTE=LookingForLefty;1103408]If you are going to cruise for SWs then this IS GOING TO HAPPEN. Few of us are immune. It happened to me one time. I thought I was picking up a regular find but it turned out to be someone else. She got in the car and was full of scabs. I told I made a mistake and thought she was someone else. She refused to leave the car unless I gave her some money. I just blew up and read her the riot act. She got scared and got out. But I was scared too, drove home and didn't go cruising for weeks.[/QUOTE]What is contained in the RIOT Act that you may read to a starving, jonesing, working girl who is concerned about getting her ass kicked by her pimp? Just curious.