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If your anything like me texting or calling a provider you never met or don't know anything about you want some answers. I've noticed a lot of these females specifically say not to ask a lot of questions. Which I completely understand they probably go through a lot of crap. For those of you whoToftt how do you insure yourself these women aren't aunt and uncle LEO?
I like to ask about 5 questions before deciding to take my chances. How else do I approach these providers?
[QUOTE=Grizzly27;4037139]If your anything like me texting or calling a provider you never met or don't know anything about you want some answers. I've noticed a lot of these females specifically say not to ask a lot of questions. Which I completely understand they probably go through a lot of crap. For those of you whoToftt how do you insure yourself these women aren't aunt and uncle LEO?
I like to ask about 5 questions before deciding to take my chances. How else do I approach these providers?[/QUOTE]Some of the answers to your questions are on page 2. Post 2846.
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When I ask questions, I found its easier using text. I tell them, Kandi offers me a wonderful girl friend experience with BBBJ and swallowing and multiple shots on our date. Then I ask " will I be happy with your services?" They just have to answer yes or no. CFS is expected but the BBBJ is not so the question of BBBJ lets you know if she is willing to go the extra mile on your date.
Hope you find page 2, Hope this Helps, Happy Hunting
Text now has worked great for me.
[QUOTE=EngrGuy;4034175]Maybe its time to share those apps we all like to use in order to not use your phone. Some like google, some like something else. Please share what works for you.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Soupy3838;4037850]Text now has worked great for me.[/QUOTE]Text plus is another good option.
Textfree, TextNow and Talkatone are some others.
[QUOTE=WittDawg;4039407]Text plus is another good option.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Wolverines;4039686]Textfree, TextNow and Talkatone are some others.[/QUOTE]Are they wifi only? I see issues with "call me when you get here".
Guys who toftt are the most valuable contributors to this forum because there is a higher than usual amount of risk. When you are talking to the provider you do not want to talk too much about services or money because you don't know for sure who you are talking with. Assuming you have some idea of her services based off her online Ad I would focus on her rate since this is probably not posted. Find out what she is charging but keep it higher level. In other words ask her how much for a half hour appointment. Don't ask her how much for a hh BBBJ, hh full service, etc. And once you arrive do not pay up front. This can be difficult as some of the girls will ask for the donation up front. But at a first time meeting like that they are putting themselves, and you, at risk. Just explain that to them. One of those guys who got busted up north this summer said that when he entered the room the provider kept her back to him and told him to place the money on the night stand. She never even showed her face. Unusual behavior like that is definitely a sign to get the hell out of dodge. But regardless, by paying at the end of the appointment you avoid this scenario.
Definitely do not send the provider a picture of the donation as this is a trick LEO will use. And don't talk about going to the ATM to get money for the appointment. Both of these show your intent to pay for services.
[QUOTE=Grizzly27;4037139]If your anything like me texting or calling a provider you never met or don't know anything about you want some answers. I've noticed a lot of these females specifically say not to ask a lot of questions. Which I completely understand they probably go through a lot of crap. For those of you whoToftt how do you insure yourself these women aren't aunt and uncle LEO?
I like to ask about 5 questions before deciding to take my chances. How else do I approach these providers?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Benz1;4037532]Some of the answers to your questions are on page 2. Post 2846.
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When I ask questions, I found its easier using text. I tell them, Kandi offers me a wonderful girl friend experience with BBBJ and swallowing and multiple shots on our date. Then I ask " will I be happy with your services?" They just have to answer yes or no. CFS is expected but the BBBJ is not so the question of BBBJ lets you know if she is willing to go the extra mile on your date.
Hope you find page 2, Hope this Helps, Happy Hunting[/QUOTE]I don't like the idea of anything in writing AT ALL, for me text needs to be simply to secure the appointment. I sure don't want to mention code letters or really any reference to sexual activities if I can help it. Much better to do that convo in person once you are sure who you are dealing with, or at the very least. And very carefully. Over the phone. If it is aunt or uncle LEO they will either have written or recorded evidence of your intent. With Benz approach above as long as money is not mentioned you might have at least a fighting chance to win a case. All that said, I don't know the answer to Grizzly's question about the best way to ask questions before meeting someone whom you have absolutely no information about and nothing has ever been reported on the board. Takes lotsa guts and a bit more risk to TOFTT and be the first to report, for sure.
[QUOTE=Blackfire;4039810]I don't like the idea of anything in writing AT ALL, for me text needs to be simply to secure the appointment. I sure don't want to mention code letters or really any reference to sexual activities if I can help it. Much better to do that convo in person once you are sure who you are dealing with, or at the very least. And very carefully. Over the phone. If it is aunt or uncle LEO they will either have written or recorded evidence of your intent. With Benz approach above as long as money is not mentioned you might have at least a fighting chance to win a case. All that said, I don't know the answer to Grizzly's question about the best way to ask questions before meeting someone whom you have absolutely no information about and nothing has ever been reported on the board. Takes lotsa guts and a bit more risk to TOFTT and be the first to report, for sure.[/QUOTE]My texting is only after I've done the research on the number and ad. If you read the 12 steps on page 2 (I'll move it to page 1) it says track the ad for 2 or 3 days before texting because most Rip offs and LE don't post the same ad and number for 3 days in a row. A TOFTT effort requires research. Do not wake up on Friday / I want to fuck and find a new girl on STG. Chances are it will not be good.
My reference to texting is only after I reach step 5. I've done it many times . One thing I could ad is that most LE stings in a hotel room are using 2 rooms connected. take a few laps around the parking lot look for those special antennas that undercover cars have. Then ask the clerk at the desk if room number 101 is a connected room to another, If yes. Don't go see that Hoe.
Just trying to help
[QUOTE=Benz1;4025537]12 steps for TOFTT.
Take One For The Team Guidelines (update # 4).
Step 1 : Find a girl you like, google her number search pics on Google Image.
1. A Search her number on Facebook. / It would wise to have a hobby (fake) FB page before searching.
Step 2 : Monitor the ad for at least 3 days, a sting from LE or Robbery set ups usually don't post for more than two days.
Step 3 : Let the usasexguide members know of your findings from google and ask if anyone has knowledge and you plan on TOFTT.
Step 4 : Buy a hobby phone, Do not use your real name for registration or to the provider.
Step 5 : Contact her on a slow day, for quicker response and better negotiations text or call on Tuesday or Wednesday. They get so many calls on a Friday they might lose your message.
A: Original contact should be a short stay or Hhr, to reduce the risk of an expensive bad date.
B: If her incall is a house address enter it into Google Street view to see the house and neighborhood.
If she gives you a location like 3 mile and Alpine, 28th street hotels between Division and 131, RRI, Knights INN on 28th. Tell her you won't go to those hotels and opt a for car date.
C: Save any negotiation for the end of the call or even your second contact. (a car date is 40 or less).
D: don't wear any loud clothing, blend in.
Step 6 : Never park in her driveway or the hotel parking lot. Park in the street or at a nearby business and walk. Example; if you go to motel 6 on 28th park in the restaurant lot.
Step 7 : Leave all valuables and drivers license at home or in the vehicle. Only take in the money you plan to spend.
Step 8 : Inform her if you are going to be late. If you're arriving early, contact the provider from a gas station a block away, so you and your vehicle do not raise suspicion. While waiting for her response, go in the bathroom and wash your balls while you wait. (providers biggest complaint is Hygiene). Contact her to say you are here. Do not go to any shady houses, just drive by and text her to let her know you will not be coming in her mouth tonight.
A: If you're at a house, have her meet you on the porch.
B: If the Hotel has a side door use it. If you have to walk by the front desk act like you live there, don't ask directions.
Step 9 : Knock on door. If the girl matches the pic stay, if not walk out and report back to USA that the pic doesn't match the girl.
Step 10: Check every room for safety.
Step 11 : Tell her you have the money and maybe show it to her but do not give up the cash until after you receive the services you negotiated for.
Step 12: Report back to USA in full detail including Looks, Smells & Cleanliness (of incall and provider), Attitude and Service.
12 A: Include a link to the providers advertisement so we know who you are reviewing.
These are some steps you should take before you TOFTT. Please add to the list if you see anything I missed.
Just trying to help.
Fellow Monger Benz1.[/QUOTE]Hope this helps.
Brook Billions update.
Providers have to think about security as often as we do. That's why some move around and some go UTR.
Brooke Billions is doing both and is not seeing anyone unless you've seen her before or get a password through Benz1.
She has temporarily moved to the west side.
Brooke realizes, during the Christmas season our wives have snatched up all our monger money.
She's running a special for the Budget Minded Monger (BMM).
Car Dates for 40 BBBJCIM, 80 CFS.
She's just asking you to keep the car running and the heat on so her nipples don't get too cold and hard. Then everyone will be happy except your wife.
Happy Hunting and Merry fucking Christmas.
[QUOTE=Benz1;4040415]Brook Billions update.
Providers have to think about security as often as we do. That's why some move around and some go UTR.
Brooke Billions is doing both and is not seeing anyone unless you've seen her before or get a password through Benz1.
She has temporarily moved to the west side.
Brooke realizes, during the Christmas season our wives have snatched up all our monger money.
She's running a special for the Budget Minded Monger (BMM).
Car Dates for 40 BBBJCIM, 80 CFS.
She's just asking you to keep the car running and the heat on so her nipples don't get too cold and hard. Then everyone will be happy except your wife.
Happy Hunting and Merry fucking Christmas.[/QUOTE]While I don't doubt you for a minute, She sure has posted adds a lot lately. She's definitely on my wish list.
[QUOTE=ChastD1959;4040526]While I don't doubt you for a minute, She sure has posted adds a lot lately. She's definitely on my wish list.[/QUOTE]Girls who reduce their appointments, only seeing regulars clients, often post as a reminder to her clients that she's still working but won't answer the phone unless she knows the number calling.
If someone new wants to see her she wants to make sure it's a safe date, passwords through trusted friends is a good referral system.
Pics are real
[QUOTE=Blackfire;4039810]I don't like the idea of anything in writing AT ALL, for me text needs to be simply to secure the appointment. I sure don't want to mention code letters or really any reference to sexual activities if I can help it. Much better to do that convo in person once you are sure who you are dealing with, or at the very least. And very carefully. Over the phone. If it is aunt or uncle LEO they will either have written or recorded evidence of your intent. With Benz approach above as long as money is not mentioned you might have at least a fighting chance to win a case. All that said, I don't know the answer to Grizzly's question about the best way to ask questions before meeting someone whom you have absolutely no information about and nothing has ever been reported on the board. Takes lotsa guts and a bit more risk to TOFTT and be the first to report, for sure.[/QUOTE]All excellent points. Burner phones though allow the text capabilities.
A couple long time SP have told me that a LEO sign will be the SP asks you to bring a cover. Recon of the area before entering a notel is a must. When meeting the SP do the LEO check of each other. I have her grab my guy while I grab her parts. Keep the Spidey senses high no matter your experience.
Stay safe!
[QUOTE=White300;4039698]Are they wifi only? I see issues with "call me when you get here".[/QUOTE]They are all wifi ones. But there is an option to buy their plans. But if you already have a data plan in your smart phone then you should be good. The best part is you can switch numbers often.