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[QUOTE=Stb421;4148190]I would like to say something about the abbev pse or porn star experience if you Google it. It says sex without a condom. But I see lots of ads where the girls say NO bareback then it list pse in activities.[/QUOTE]Seems to me that the definitions for PSE and GFE are evolving. With "cuddling" appearing more frequently in ads, GFE almost seems to be up to but not necessarily including FS for some providers. Can't imagine any health conscious providers doing BBFS for PSE.
[QUOTE=Edge1201;4148501]She has never charged me more than that and does not short on time. You tip for service beyond the menu rate.[/QUOTE]I'm wondering exactly what you mean on that last sentence, tho. My inquiry is: Does that very high price for NURU cum with the tip included? Usually for an at-home massage when it's much more than the standard 40/60 price, it's assumed to be one beyond just a mere massage, and with any tip included to cut to the chase. As it is, beyond $10 or so for a fully-clothed, 100% legit hhr G-rated massage that's not by itself out of this world -- the tip is aimed for covering the 'extras'.
This came up earlier about MBD's specific 30 m NURU price -- $80 to $140, depending on their specials. Depending on what action is had, one can make it Objectively worth those amounts, yes. Butt, for a body-slide in a bikini-bottom (even peeled down for view) -- I don't think I'm the only one who wouldn't want to be paying that + tip (say, $150 on avg) for a hhr of body-slide, with an HE. As opposed to not too much more than half that for a hhr topless massage, with an HE at many places. That said though -- I have not experienced it at MBD (even though I have experienced NURUs elsewhere), so I can't say what all cums in their NURU gift basket, when the rubber meats the road.
[QUOTE]Don't worry. You didn't miss much. Bionic 2 hand grip. Had to tell her to ease up and slow down, twice![/QUOTE]Yeah, I wouldn't have wanted to pay 60/60 for a fully-clothed, robocop-style 60-90 second HE to finish it off. Butt, it can still be something to indulge in, so I can see going with the standard 60/40. If I was in GuitarMan's situation where she wanted 60/60, I would have motioned for the lotion to demonstrate a DIY for her, so that I could keep most of my change. Saying/doing this would likely change the other's mind, but YMMV.
[QUOTE=ThrobbinWood;4148955]What does MBD stand for or where is it. I am from out of town.[/QUOTE]Last year, someone else suggested "Michigan Ball Drainers".
I know when I've gone, I have NOT been disappointed. Di is awesome!
[QUOTE=SweetHemiStud;4149331]Massage By Diane on Michigan st between fuller and Plymouth.[/QUOTE]I could not respond to that, as it would have been blocked as an advertisement!!
I appreciate you responding!!
Happy hunting,
Jaynna / Di.
Anyone have any experience with these two? Their pics in the Panacea ad look pretty damn good! Would love any info either here or in a pm. Thanks.
[QUOTE=DPerki67;4150240]Last year, someone else suggested "Michigan Ball Drainers".
I know when I've gone, I have NOT been disappointed. Di is awesome![/QUOTE]Nonetheless, thank you kindly for referencing that Di is Awesome! Much appreciated!! Your business is greatly appreciated, watch for excellent savings on the ads!!
Happy hunting,
Jaynna / Di.
[QUOTE=JohnSolo;4148436]Was she cute? Tall or petite? Thin, athletic or thick?[/QUOTE]Yes. Cute. Great ass. C cup. About 5 ft 4 in. Long black hair. Really great girl.
[QUOTE=LoveTheLips;4147729]I'm pretty sure that the exotic / NURU includes the tip, at least I would hope it does because as you said those rates are already high.[/QUOTE]This is all relative. Just talk to Di or Emily.
[QUOTE=Moonglow913;4151329]This is all relative. Just talk to Di or Emily.[/QUOTE]Good idea Moonglow! Remember, this board is all about sharing info and helping others so, if you are familiar with their rate / tip structure, feel free to chime in. Also, Di sees these posts and she is also welcome to chime in if she would like to help us and clear up any confusion.
I've decided to give this a try. I want to go to Serenity Relaxation on Plainfield because it is close. Can anyone recommend who I should ask for? Any info is appreciated.
Stopped in to Healthy Habits on 28th today. Not sure why as the last visit was lackluster at best. Got a middle aged asian lady. Not attractive physically, poor personality. Got a less than mediocre massage. Shorted by ten minutes on my half hour. I'm honestly considering getting out of the hobby.
[QUOTE=Xpressway;4152047]Stopped in to Healthy Habits on 28th today. Not sure why as the last visit was lackluster at best. Got a middle aged asian lady. Not attractive physically, poor personality. Got a less than mediocre massage. Shorted by ten minutes on my half hour. I'm honestly considering getting out of the hobby.[/QUOTE]It's our money, we can make the rules.
Don't give them their money until you get your Honey.
[QUOTE=Benz1;4152454]It's our money, we can make the rules.
Don't give them their money until you get your Honey.[/QUOTE]I used to (still do) hate being shorted on my time. I travel to all over the US and have a few favorites every where I go.
My go to fav in Atlanta now uses her count down timer on her phone. For the half hour Now if I am meeting a girl for the first time and there is nothing in the review about her being a time shorter I will take in to the donation that was agreed upon and cheap ass kitchen timer. Once we are ready to start I will set the clock on the donation and I start it. I am very clear that they will get the donation when the timer goes off.
If it does anything it alerts them to the fact that you are paying for their time, after all that's there motto. You pay there time. I have yet to be shorted and I have to loose a timer.
[QUOTE=Spartan191;4152662]I used to (still do) hate being shorted on my time. I travel to all over the US and have a few favorites every where I go.
My go to fav in Atlanta now uses her count down timer on her phone. For the half hour Now if I am meeting a girl for the first time and there is nothing in the review about her being a time shorter I will take in to the donation that was agreed upon and cheap ass kitchen timer. Once we are ready to start I will set the clock on the donation and I start it. I am very clear that they will get the donation when the timer goes off.
If it does anything it alerts them to the fact that you are paying for their time, after all that's there motto. You pay there time. I have yet to be shorted and I have to loose a timer.[/QUOTE]I've been preaching about that for years now! Take out your phone even and have them see you set the timer on it and don't start it until the massage actually starts. Another trick that they use alot is to take you to the room and tell you to get comfortable and then leave the room for like 5-10 min and then deduct that off your time, that's BS! The good ones stay in the room and help you undress which adds some sexiness to the appointment which would probably add to their tip as well so, take note ladies! They should also undress when you undress instead of waiting later when they get you hot and bothered and then do the whole back and forth negotiating at the flip which kills the mood. The good ones that get all of the repeat business already know to do right but the customer to make the whole experience enjoyable.
Anybody see her lately? Going by Jersey Shore now and doing sessions by appointment through Royal I think. I used to see her a couple years ago when she went by Summer at Panacea. Sexy as hell with one of the nicest asses in GR!! Would love to hear any recent reports! [URL]http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_e/jersey-shore/028709428144[/URL].
I would love a BBFS Nuru Body Massage and Slide. Anyone know of any? Seems like someone would offer what I see on the videos. Can you imagine how amazing that would be?
Only 2 posts in the last 5 days, and those from the same monger. Makes me think the strike is very much for real. Just curious, has anyone been receiving provider feedback on the rate strike?
[QUOTE=LandRover20;4158347]Only 2 posts in the last 5 days, and those from the same monger. Makes me think the strike is very much for real. Just curious, has anyone been receiving provider feedback on the rate strike?[/QUOTE]I think we are still in the beginning stages of establishing a rate for new escort without reviews and escort with good reviews. As well as MP girls.
Most of us are not going to pay their price for average service.
Give me what I want at a fair price or I'll find someone who will.
We will get feed back, if we are willing to text or call the same provider as a group and tell her what we pay. If she says no. We all call her back a week later with the same negotiations to see if she is ready to get on our list of providers that are price Friendly with good service.
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Saw Jamie per recommendation. So glad I did.
CMT massage. Very nice and sweet woman. Easy to talk to and attentative.
No teasing before the flip. Didn't mind that though because her hands were magic.
Flip was a 10/10 for me. I didn't even make it through the whole showcase of her skills. Popped during the light touch and teasing. Super sexy sensual HE. Topless.
60/60.
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Saw Jamie per recommendation. So glad I did.
CMT massage. Very nice and sweet woman. Easy to talk to and attentative.
No teasing before the flip. Didn't mind that though because her hands were magic.
Flip was a 10/10 for me. I didn't even make it through the whole showcase of her skills. Popped during the light touch and teasing. Super sexy sensual HE. Topless.
60/60.[/QUOTE]I'm a little confused. You called her Jamie but her page shows it's Julia. Not a real big deal but don't want to call a woman that's up close and personal by the wrong name. Ha. I'm in Grand Rapids this weekend. She sounds and looks like the perfect way to relieve some stress.
[QUOTE=Choose;4158750]I'm a little confused. You called her Jamie but her page shows it's Julia. Not a real big deal but don't want to call a woman that's up close and personal by the wrong name. Ha. I'm in Grand Rapids this weekend. She sounds and looks like the perfect way to relieve some stress.[/QUOTE]She goes by Julia. As stated CMT massage for sure. Topless HE. Nice rack. Happy hunting my friends. Mm6869.
Landed at 28th Street for a quick release. Some granny was all available. I thought okay, you know the room is dark and I have an imagination. Massage was okay. Said she hot towel and left the room for five minutes. Came back smelling like cigarettes. Gag, I told her I was good didn't need the flip side. She said, Honey you sure? I said yes gave her a hug and 10.
Never did get the release I there for.
[QUOTE=Choose;4158750]I'm a little confused. You called her Jamie but her page shows it's Julia. Not a real big deal but don't want to call a woman that's up close and personal by the wrong name. Ha. I'm in Grand Rapids this weekend. She sounds and looks like the perfect way to relieve some stress.[/QUOTE]My fault. It's definitely Julia.
I try not to repeat myself, but I saw Layla about a week ago, and it had been a few months. I was just as amazed as I was at previous visits. I hadn't seen her new digs, and it was comfy.
She's awesome, guys. If you haven't already discovered her, you may be missing something special.
I went to Y Body relax massage in Grand Rapids on division ave south of 44th st few years ago and had massage by Lauren, a Vietnamese female. It was a good massage. I am usually in kalamazoo / Battle Creek area. I was thinking about going to Grand Rapids again to try this place out but I can't find any recent mention of this place on the internet and any google search for the address either. Any idea if they are still open for business?
Questions have been posted about how the providers are responding to our strike. I did some negotiations for us today, it's a test drive.
Kyra and I were chatting about the mongers strike. She wants to see if the right price and service attracts any mongers.
I proposed she do a totally nude, full roaming 1 hr massage with HJ and the whip if you need it.
For 100 Total.
Not for everyone.
Just for the mongers that enter serenity saying KyraJade is one Hot * This Thursday (today).
She responded with.
Yes I'm thrilled LOL I'd particularly like to focus on the foot fetish and submissive clients? I feel pretty fucked up lately LOL I need some entertainment as well as sadistic gratification.
I reminded her that full roaming includes fiv, fib.
She responded with this.
No fiv. Not this week LOL🔴.
Ok. Kinda messy. LOL. Butt she has trimmed her nails for FIB for us. Hopefully that will help us forget about No FIV.
She works 4 to 8 pm today.
[URL]http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/616-773-2943-kyrahjade/717108577071[/URL]
It will be a lot easier for her to get comfortable right away if you have a password. If you have not seen her before, PM me for a password.
Just a monger trying to help.
[QUOTE=Benz1;4161398]Questions have been posted about how the providers are responding to our strike. I did some negotiations for us today, it's a test drive.
Kyra and I were chatting about the mongers strike. She wants to see if the right price and service attracts any mongers.
I proposed she do a totally nude, full roaming 1 hr massage with HJ and the whip if you need it.
For 100 Total.
Not for everyone.
Just for the mongers that enter serenity saying KyraJade is one Hot * This Thursday (today).
She responded with.
Yes I'm thrilled LOL I'd particularly like to focus on the foot fetish and submissive clients? I feel pretty fucked up lately LOL I need some entertainment as well as sadistic gratification.
I reminded her that full roaming includes fiv, fib.
She responded with this.
No fiv. Not this week LOL🔴.
Ok. Kinda messy. LOL. Butt she has trimmed her nails for FIB for us. Hopefully that will help us forget about No FIV.
She works 4 to 8 pm today.
[URL]http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/616-773-2943-kyrahjade/717108577071[/URL]
It will be a lot easier for her to get comfortable right away if you have a password. If you have not seen her before, PM me for a password.
Just a monger trying to help.[/QUOTE]Once again Benz, you are THE man! She looks pretty damn nice! How is her actual massage, pretty good? Even though fiv is off limits this week, hopefully we can still rub the"love button"!
You have a link for her?
[QUOTE=Darshane;4160376]I try not to repeat myself, but I saw Layla about a week ago, and it had been a few months. I was just as amazed as I was at previous visits. I hadn't seen her new digs, and it was comfy.
She's awesome, guys. If you haven't already discovered her, you may be missing something special.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LoveTheLips;4161421]Once again Benz, you are THE man! She looks pretty damn nice! How is her actual massage, pretty good? Even though fiv is off limits this week, hopefully we can still rub the"love button"![/QUOTE]She seems to be open to anything today, the massage is what you ask for, she's capable of giving a great massage but after she put that pie in my face everything got a little foggy and somehow it didn't seem to matter as much. That's highly unusual for me because I'm very demanding about the massage but that pie in my eye almost made me cry.
[QUOTE=MichiganMan686;4159582]She goes by Julia. As stated CMT massage for sure. Topless HE. Nice rack. Happy hunting my friends. Mm6869.[/QUOTE]I'm new to this so don't mind the mindless question. Does she require tip for "extra" service?
Pie in the eye, will do that to a guy.
[QUOTE=Benz1;4161449]She seems to be open to anything today, the massage is what you ask for, she's capable of giving a great massage but after she put that pie in my face everything got a little foggy and somehow it didn't seem to matter as much. That's highly unusual for me because I'm very demanding about the massage but that pie in my eye almost made me cry.[/QUOTE]
100 including door fee?
[QUOTE=Benz1;4161398]Questions have been posted about how the providers are responding to our strike. I did some negotiations for us today, it's a test drive.
Kyra and I were chatting about the mongers strike. She wants to see if the right price and service attracts any mongers.
I proposed she do a totally nude, full roaming 1 hr massage with HJ and the whip if you need it.
For 100 Total.
Not for everyone.
Just for the mongers that enter serenity saying KyraJade is one Hot * This Thursday (today).
She responded with.
Yes I'm thrilled LOL I'd particularly like to focus on the foot fetish and submissive clients? I feel pretty fucked up lately LOL I need some entertainment as well as sadistic gratification.
I reminded her that full roaming includes fiv, fib.
She responded with this.
No fiv. Not this week LOL🔴.
Ok. Kinda messy. LOL. Butt she has trimmed her nails for FIB for us. Hopefully that will help us forget about No FIV.
She works 4 to 8 pm today.
[URL]http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/616-773-2943-kyrahjade/717108577071[/URL]
It will be a lot easier for her to get comfortable right away if you have a password. If you have not seen her before, PM me for a password.
Just a monger trying to help.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Monger01;4161590]100 including door fee?[/QUOTE]Yes, including door fee.
This is today only 4 to 8.
[QUOTE=WildPlayer;4160680]I went to Y Body relax massage in Grand Rapids on division ave south of 44th st few years ago and had massage by Lauren, a Vietnamese female. It was a good massage. I am usually in kalamazoo / Battle Creek area. I was thinking about going to Grand Rapids again to try this place out but I can't find any recent mention of this place on the internet and any google search for the address either. Any idea if they are still open for business?[/QUOTE]Yep, Lauren is still there, same location, she is as fantastic as ever, very good massage, kind of an above pace but not rapid movement of her hands always with good pressure even when teasing which is often. And this place charges 50/ hr compared to every place else at 60. If you want more teasing during the massage, just say so and Lauren will provide it. I was surprised recently when she told me not everyone gets as much teasing as I do, but I have encouraged her to do so and she is happy to provide.
Thanks for the review.
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[QUOTE=Darshane;4160376]I try not to repeat myself, but I saw Layla about a week ago, and it had been a few months. I was just as amazed as I was at previous visits. I hadn't seen her new digs, and it was comfy.
She's awesome, guys. If you haven't already discovered her, you may be missing something special.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WildPlayer;4160680]I went to Y Body relax massage in Grand Rapids on division ave south of 44th st few years ago and had massage by Lauren, a Vietnamese female. It was a good massage. I am usually in kalamazoo / Battle Creek area. I was thinking about going to Grand Rapids again to try this place out but I can't find any recent mention of this place on the internet and any google search for the address either. Any idea if they are still open for business?[/QUOTE]I never knew her name, and it has been about a year since I've been there, but I was pretty frequent when I was, and have had the same girl every time but once, and even then, I guess the girl who it was, was nervous of me being LEO, and the girl who I've seen all the time before came in and rubbed for a couple minutes, then left and apparently gave her the OK, because once she got back in the teasing started and it was fun. Though I did enjoy the girl I had seen several times before a little more. She even made me blow twice in the hour.
Well. I ended my strike against Pacific on 44th. I didn't end up paying the extra $41 (See other post) though! What I did learn is that someone like Nina is impossible to replace! I highly recommend you pay her visit and you'll see what I mean. She's a very attractive young lady that will treat you right! That all being said, I'm still not talking to the business owner again.
Still smiling 6 hours after my visit. Go see Nina!
[QUOTE=AmpPerv;4161831]Yep, Lauren is still there, same location, she is as fantastic as ever, very good massage, kind of an above pace but not rapid movement of her hands always with good pressure even when teasing which is often. And this place charges 50/ hr compared to every place else at 60. If you want more teasing during the massage, just say so and Lauren will provide it. I was surprised recently when she told me not everyone gets as much teasing as I do, but I have encouraged her to do so and she is happy to provide.[/QUOTE]And she's a great kisser! She knows how to jack a cock and make you believe you're her favorite. I haven't been there in 7 or 8 months. I got tired of being quizzed and called and quizzed and called by the owner, Kathy.
First post, so be easy on me LOL.
Stopped into Pacific on 44th last night, this has been my third time there and second time with Vee. Somewhat attractive Latina, nice perky tits. Both times I've seen her now I can tell she's high on something though.
Pretty terrible massage, but real easy to talk to and get what you want, just show her money. She gets naked right away and allows roaming with FIV. Decent HJ and BBBJCIM. I haven't tried yet, but fairly certain FS is on her menu if the cash (or candy) is right.
Would reapeat.
Damages 60 door /60 tip.
[QUOTE=AmpPerv;4161831]Yep, Lauren is still there, same location, she is as fantastic as ever, very good massage, kind of an above pace but not rapid movement of her hands always with good pressure even when teasing which is often. And this place charges 50/ hr compared to every place else at 60. If you want more teasing during the massage, just say so and Lauren will provide it. I was surprised recently when she told me not everyone gets as much teasing as I do, but I have encouraged her to do so and she is happy to provide.[/QUOTE]Contact info for how to schedule with Lauren would be appreciated. Since craigslist and backpage quit our info ads she no longer advertises. Please send me private message. Thanks.