Seeking Arrangements

[QUOTE=AcconRed;4785689]I'm going to give it a shot for a month and see what happens. Expecting to be disappointed but hoping not to get jaded with the amount of girls that want a small business loan from a SD heh.[/QUOTE]The issue yo7 may have to deal with in the current mood is this covid shit has many girls freaked out. You may find that they just want online and payment for pics and vids.

You could join now and start collecting contact info and you may find a few open to meeting but don't be too disappointed if no one is willing to meet.

[QUOTE=Joe1223;4785848]The issue yo7 may have to deal with in the current mood is this covid shit has many girls freaked out. You may find that they just want online and payment for pics and vids.

You could join now and start collecting contact info and you may find a few open to meeting but don't be too disappointed if no one is willing to meet.[/QUOTE]I agree, this is not the best time to join. Still too much social distancing. I'd wait and see what happens in the near future. One of my regulars said she's probably ready to meet up next week, coinciding with the first move to reopen businesses in MA. (She has public health training.).

[QUOTE=Joe1223;4785848]The issue yo7 may have to deal with in the current mood is this covid shit has many girls freaked out. You may find that they just want online and payment for pics and vids.

You could join now and start collecting contact info and you may find a few open to meeting but don't be too disappointed if no one is willing to meet.[/QUOTE]Have there been an influx of regular girls trying to make ends meat that due to job loss in service or entertainment industry.

I've been debating of joining WYP and SA again if there has been an influx of new girls looking to make an honest dollar.

Lmao she opening for business with the rest of the state.

See I kind of thought with this virus thing going on and the shutdown girls would be more hard up for cash. And the types of girls to be STG would also not take their personal health very seriously and not care about it. Feel like this should be a feeding frenzy on the usual sites but its a ghost town.

It's not too hard. A few guidelines:

1. Don't talk about transacting on the site. Ie, don't ppm, don't use keywords that you would use on this site.

2. Talk AROUND sex, if you have to. Ie, netflix and chill, mutual benefit, intimacy, etc.

3. If interested, take the conversation off SA as soon as possible. Get a text app or Snapchat. Or Kik. Or FB Messenger (on a throwaway account).

4. Be nice to these girls. We want them to talk to their friends about how awesome it was, and not about the weirdos that ARE on the site. (BTW, it's those weirdos that are paying 500+, being not a weirdo is like a $200 discount).

5. Don't pay anything upfront until you have met them irl. Don't agree to pay for the meet and greet (Ie platonic "date".

6. Even if they're "time wasters" or "gps" don't be an ass and burn that bridge. Thank them for their time, but say it's you, not them, and it's not going to work out.

7. If at the meet up they're not what they advertised, walk away!

8. Don't be negative; negativity is such a turn off and you'll scare any potential dates away.

[QUOTE=GlennDoyle91;4786066]It's not too hard. A few guidelines:

1. Don't talk about transacting on the site. Ie, don't ppm, don't use keywords that you would use on this site.

2. Talk AROUND sex, if you have to. Ie, netflix and chill, mutual benefit, intimacy, etc.

3. If interested, take the conversation off SA as soon as possible. Get a text app or Snapchat. Or Kik. Or FB Messenger (on a throwaway account).

4. Be nice to these girls. We want them to talk to their friends about how awesome it was, and not about the weirdos that ARE on the site. (BTW, it's those weirdos that are paying 500+, being not a weirdo is like a $200 discount).

5. Don't pay anything upfront until you have met them irl. Don't agree to pay for the meet and greet (Ie platonic "date".

6. Even if they're "time wasters" or "gps" don't be an ass and burn that bridge. Thank them for their time, but say it's you, not them, and it's not going to work out.

7. If at the meet up they're not what they advertised, walk away!

8. Don't be negative; negativity is such a turn off and you'll scare any potential dates away.[/QUOTE]This is right on in so many ways! I have had great success on there being polite and positive. The real SBs (non-pros) want to feel like it's a sugar relationship and not just a one time transaction to bang. Do I occasionally find a pro on there and meet her? Sure but I'm trying to get those gems that are out there which takes work and time and probably a bit more cash. None of it is easy and sometimes not fun searching and messaging and weeding out the crap but as I said, they are there if you make the right moves and have patience.

Someone asked if there is an in flux of new girls. I've seen many new faces on there but many want online only which they won't find. They will either delete their account or give in and look for a real sugar arrangement with sex. My bet is most will delete their account. There seems to be a bunch of women on youtube and tiktok and snapchat who are saying they get paid by sugar daddies just to video chat and send pictures. I think it's all bullshit but many of these young women see that and join because they think they can find that. They won't.

[QUOTE=CornPop;4785912]Have there been an influx of regular girls trying to make ends meat that due to job loss in service or entertainment industry.

I've been debating of joining WYP and SA again if there has been an influx of new girls looking to make an honest dollar.[/QUOTE]Yes there's been a big influx, but they are looking for cash for photos, video, etc. They last about 3 days and then delete. I have still not seen a big influx who both really need money AND want to meet in person now. I think we're a week, or 2, away from that. Soon!

Hello Everyone,

I just wanted to give a fair warning to everyone that Kylie4219 on SA is a scam. I started talking to her, everything looked good. She sent me pics even nudes and I was like OK. I asked for her to come visit and the price was reasonable at $$ Profile said she was 18 years old and from Russia. She said she needed 50.00 to come to me because she needed to fill her tank. After a little back and forth, I decided to go for it sent it on Cash app and never herd from her again. Oh well at least it was only 50.00.

No matter how many times we say it, money upfront is always a scam. EVERY SINGLE TIME WITHOUT FAIL. Still, someone has to try it, just in case you know. Glad it was minimal but then again, they never ask for hundreds.

[QUOTE=MovieDude39;4787068]Hello Everyone,

I just wanted to give a fair warning to everyone that Kylie4219 on SA is a scam. I started talking to her, everything looked good. She sent me pics even nudes and I was like OK. I asked for her to come visit and the price was reasonable at $$ Profile said she was 18 years old and from Russia. She said she needed 50.00 to come to me because she needed to fill her tank. After a little back and forth, I decided to go for it sent it on Cash app and never herd from her again. Oh well at least it was only 50.00.[/QUOTE]Never. Never. Never send cash up front prior to a first meet. You WILL lose it. Tell them you'll give them the agreed donation, plus the gas money. Someone who has no other option to get the gas necessary to visit you, and earn a nice allowance, is someone who has no other option to get gas for any other purpose. And just in case that's accurate, it's someone I'd never see in any case; far too desperate. But it's never accurate.

[QUOTE=MovieDude39;4787068]Hello Everyone,

I just wanted to give a fair warning to everyone that Kylie4219 on SA is a scam. I started talking to her, everything looked good. She sent me pics even nudes and I was like OK. I asked for her to come visit and the price was reasonable at $$ Profile said she was 18 years old and from Russia. She said she needed 50.00 to come to me because she needed to fill her tank. After a little back and forth, I decided to go for it sent it on Cash app and never herd from her again. Oh well at least it was only 50.00.[/QUOTE]And this is why scammers exist because of people who actually fall for it. Bro. Seeking has over 1000 chicks on it, you can find someone to fuck without sending someone a deposit, oh yea side note. What planet is she living on where she needs 50.00 to fill her tank when gas is 1. 37 a gallon? Is she driving to Florida to meet you. There's the tell right there.

[QUOTE=MovieDude39;4787068]Hello Everyone,

I just wanted to give a fair warning to everyone that Kylie4219 on SA is a scam. I started talking to her, everything looked good. She sent me pics even nudes and I was like OK. I asked for her to come visit and the price was reasonable at $$ Profile said she was 18 years old and from Russia. She said she needed 50.00 to come to me because she needed to fill her tank. After a little back and forth, I decided to go for it sent it on Cash app and never herd from her again. Oh well at least it was only 50.00.[/QUOTE]I don't k know when you or others will learn. If the girl don't have money to put gas in her car. Then, should be working.

[QUOTE=GlennDoyle91;4786066]It's not too hard. A few guidelines:

1. Don't talk about transacting on the site. Ie, don't ppm, don't use keywords that you would use on this site.

2. Talk AROUND sex, if you have to. Ie, netflix and chill, mutual benefit, intimacy, etc.

3. If interested, take the conversation off SA as soon as possible. Get a text app or Snapchat. Or Kik. Or FB Messenger (on a throwaway account).

4. Be nice to these girls. We want them to talk to their friends about how awesome it was, and not about the weirdos that ARE on the site. (BTW, it's those weirdos that are paying 500+, being not a weirdo is like a $200 discount).

5. Don't pay anything upfront until you have met them irl. Don't agree to pay for the meet and greet (Ie platonic "date".

6. Even if they're "time wasters" or "gps" don't be an ass and burn that bridge. Thank them for their time, but say it's you, not them, and it's not going to work out.

7. If at the meet up they're not what they advertised, walk away!

8. Don't be negative; negativity is such a turn off and you'll scare any potential dates away.[/QUOTE]Cannot emphasize some of these points enough.

Never, never, pay up front. Not ever. Not for gas, babysitter, uber, or whatever. It's always a scam.

Be nice. Treat these woman like you would a real date and keep it positive.

Do not pay for meet & greet. If it goes well and you plan to meet again behind closed doors you may want to CONSIDER giving her babysitter or uber money to show what a good guy you are. But even then only at the end of the meet & greet never in advance.

Do not use keywords that will get you banned when messaging on SA. This problem has been discussed here many times and somehow it's ignored or forgotten. SA scans messages with automated software. Words such as hosting, ppm, pay for play, allowance, incall, outcall, hotel, motel, condom, sex acts (bbbj, daty, fs, cof, you know the list) will get you banned. Take it off the site to text or whatever messaging app as soon as possible.

To avoid wasting time, call an hour before the meet to confirm. Don't get a hotel room, until you're sure about the arrangement.

Negotiating payments. They are always worth what they say their worth; be prepared to walk away. The price I'm comfortable with is $300 for ppm. I feel that any more than that, you're not getting value. I mean, higher amounts allows you to be more attractive to more sugar, but it's like aftermarket parts for anything. To go from stock parts to 90% efficiency, you might have to spend 20% more of what a stock part costs. But to get 91%, you spend something like 200%, to get 92% you spend 1000%. You get the drift.

Food for thought. At $300/3 hours (a decent time for date) it's $100/ hr. At that rate, it's a master craftsman or a phd major in a field that has high demand. Some of them want to be overpaid Walmart greeters. "Talk" and "support," but expect the previous rate. It's mind boggling. But, don't be an ass and make them feel bad. It's hard enough for them to put themselves out there.

[QUOTE=GlennDoyle91;4787528]To avoid wasting time, call an hour before the meet to confirm. Don't get a hotel room, until you're sure about the arrangement.

Negotiating payments. They are always worth what they say their worth; be prepared to walk away. The price I'm comfortable with is $300 for ppm. I feel that any more than that, you're not getting value. I mean, higher amounts allows you to be more attractive to more sugar, but it's like aftermarket parts for anything. To go from stock parts to 90% efficiency, you might have to spend 20% more of what a stock part costs. But to get 91%, you spend something like 200%, to get 92% you spend 1000%. You get the drift.

Food for thought. At $300/3 hours (a decent time for date) it's $100/ hr. At that rate, it's a master craftsman or a phd major in a field that has high demand. Some of them want to be overpaid Walmart greeters. "Talk" and "support," but expect the previous rate. It's mind boggling. But, don't be an ass and make them feel bad. It's hard enough for them to put themselves out there.[/QUOTE]I like the post, but I and some others are cheap or "salt daddies" I suppose.

My opinion may change, but pussy is not as important to me as money so I guess I'm going to get my parts at the junkyard.

My budget for this activity is $150.

Either luck or location in S Florida made this possible.

I once told the baby I found socially, "I value my money more than I value pussy, although you may know a lot of guys with the converse view. ".

I also think bargain hunting is fun.