Non Pro's

[QUOTE=Silhavy330;6669080]Hey guys, I'll be in the area soon for a bit and was scoping the local talent. I ran across Mia, who peaked my interest. I messaged her and she sent me her number. Has anybody seen her? Feel free to PM me.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/238965d9-f23d-4d13-a17f-c78ef2d2cf92[/URL][/QUOTE]She is legit, very good looking, her face looked a bit less slim than in the pictures but nothing over the top. Very nice rack. She if DTF, friendly, good attitude, she gets into it but does not have the crazy energy I like so I did not repeat.

We first did a non paid M&G at a restaurant and another day I went straight to her place

GPS.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/62cc92cb-6914-47bc-a4ec-e9793170b322[/URL]

Contacted me. Wanted 1-2k week.

For those that remember Crystal Gere aka Cristal Love from old old old TNA.

Great fuck. Takes a creampie. Great dick sucker. Loves getting her pussy licked and then sliding in raw.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6f5476fb-cef0-4990-ac87-75df7562fdf1[/URL]

[QUOTE=BackInSea;6672467]For those that remember Crystal Gere aka Cristal Love from old old old TNA.

Great fuck. Takes a creampie. Great dick sucker. Loves getting her pussy licked and then sliding in raw.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6f5476fb-cef0-4990-ac87-75df7562fdf1[/URL][/QUOTE]This is sort of offtopic, but maybe mods will allow. I've seen some pretty average oral skills in the non-pros the past year, especially the under 30 crowd. Some will walk in saying how good they are and it's almost a joke. One technique and, my pet peeve, not very intense (try using with your hands a little more and stop being so goddamn gentle, ladies).

What is a GOOD head game - just say it, or post a link.

I'm sure there are a few amateurs and non-pros who read this thread. Maybe we can help change things, LOL.

[QUOTE=Mamouna;6674351]This is sort of offtopic, but maybe mods will allow. I've seen some pretty average oral skills in the non-pros the past year, especially the under 30 crowd. Some will walk in saying how good they are and it's almost a joke. One technique and, my pet peeve, not very intense (try using with your hands a little more and stop being so goddamn gentle, ladies).

What is a GOOD head game - just say it, or post a link.

I'm sure there are a few amateurs and non-pros who read this thread. Maybe we can help change things, LOL.[/QUOTE]EVERY woman thinks she's good at sucking dick because no guy will EVER tell a woman sucking his dick that she's terrible at it. If you cum, then she thinks she did an incredible job. Of course, my hand can make me come too and there isn't anything spectacular about that. Most women are mediocre dick suckers at best. I'm at the point in my life where I simply won't waste my time with it, if she's terrible, I just stop her. They are always like, "oh, you're not into that". I don't say anything.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;6674562]I'm at the point in my life where I simply won't waste my time with it, if she's terrible, I just stop her. They are always like, "oh, you're not into that". I don't say anything.[/QUOTE]Haha, I usually just say she's too hot so I can't wait anymore and MUST fuck NOW.

[QUOTE=Silhavy330;6669080]Hey guys, I'll be in the area soon for a bit and was scoping the local talent. I ran across Mia, who peaked my interest. I messaged her and she sent me her number. Has anybody seen her? Feel free to PM me.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/238965d9-f23d-4d13-a17f-c78ef2d2cf92[/URL][/QUOTE]Wrote a review about her couple months ago. She's pretty stacked, good vibes, pretty chill and laid back. Went two rounds with her, bbfscip. She's definitely DTF. Enjoy if you get a hold of her.

Hello fellow mongers. I'm trying to get more into the non pro game, but I can't seem to figure out how to use SA without spending my entire paycheck. Do you all really fork out that kinda $$ for sending messages? If anyone could help / pm me some info on how to get started or what I'm doing wrong I'd be willing to trade a few numbers I got from some "pros" in the bb forum.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4322dee1-b957-4ccb-9857-0d02f97c5293[/URL]

Any have any intel on her? I've gotten some vibes from her that hover around semi-pro, but it's not obvious.

[QUOTE=SaladHermit;6676430][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4322dee1-b957-4ccb-9857-0d02f97c5293[/URL]

Any have any intel on her? I've gotten some vibes from her that hover around semi-pro, but it's not obvious.[/QUOTE]I think someone had reviewed her here being some kind of a scam. Couldn't find it as she keeps making new profiles.

[QUOTE=SaladHermit;6676430][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4322dee1-b957-4ccb-9857-0d02f97c5293[/URL]

Any have any intel on her? I've gotten some vibes from her that hover around semi-pro, but it's not obvious.[/QUOTE]She's real. Really nuts. We communicated enough to confirm she is real but I ended up backing out due to her dramatic personality, avg looks (she sent a no make up selfie), and GPS. Wanted $6.5, plus fancy dinner. Sorry I can get FS at an AMP for a fraction of that and no date. And, yes, she makes new profile every time she starts up SA again.

[QUOTE=Mcrud56;6676339]Hello fellow mongers. I'm trying to get more into the non pro game, but I can't seem to figure out how to use SA without spending my entire paycheck. Do you all really fork out that kinda $$ for sending messages? If anyone could help / pm me some info on how to get started or what I'm doing wrong I'd be willing to trade a few numbers I got from some "pros" in the bb forum.[/QUOTE]If you cannot afford the price of admission, you do not want to play in the sugar bowl. Stick with set rate pro's.

[QUOTE=SaladHermit;6676430][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4322dee1-b957-4ccb-9857-0d02f97c5293[/URL]

Any have any intel on her? I've gotten some vibes from her that hover around semi-pro, but it's not obvious.[/QUOTE]She is a scammer, run away from her as far as you can. I met her at a restaurant. After dinner, she wanted to go to QFC to get a oral test kit and requested money. I obliged, gave her 200 (stupid I know) and told her I would be coming with her. However, I couldn't find the parking easily and let her go into the store alone as there were other cars behind honking at me and I was nervous.

By the time I parked my car, I was sure it was a scam. Lo and behold I got this exact message from her after 5 minutes.

I left out the back door, I parked in the qfcparking lot and am on my way home, I'm sorry but I am fleeing from a DV situation and needed the help. I live in south Tacoma and it is going to be a two hour drive, I'm so sorry. I don't want to waste anymore of your time, thank you for the donation. You saved me and my kid.

In hindsight, there were lot of red flags but I ignored as I was new to this experience.

[QUOTE=PoonHound1969;6677119]If you cannot afford the price of admission, you do not want to play in the sugar bowl. Stick with set rate pro's.[/QUOTE]Honestly valid, just didn't think you all were forking out money just to send messages. I don't have a problem dropping cash on these girls, but I definitely would want a return on investment LOL.

[QUOTE=Mcrud56;6676339]Hello fellow mongers. I'm trying to get more into the non pro game, but I can't seem to figure out how to use SA without spending my entire paycheck. Do you all really fork out that kinda $$ for sending messages? If anyone could help / pm me some info on how to get started or what I'm doing wrong I'd be willing to trade a few numbers I got from some "pros" in the bb forum.[/QUOTE]SA you just pay the one time fee of $ninety to send as many messages as you want per month. If ninety buckets is your entire paycheck, you're shit out of luck. If ninety bones is your entire paycheck, putang should be the last thing on your mind. Look over this forum, new guys always expecting the other dudes to keep repeating the same thing over and over because they're too slow in the brain not go a couple pages back.

[QUOTE=RomanticIdiot;6677311]She is a scammer, run away from her as far as you can. I met her at a restaurant. After dinner, she wanted to go to QFC to get a oral test kit and requested money. I obliged, gave her 200 (stupid I know) and told her I would be coming with her. However, I couldn't find the parking easily and let her go into the store alone as there were other cars behind honking at me and I was nervous.

By the time I parked my car, I was sure it was a scam. Lo and behold I got this exact message from her after 5 minutes.

I left out the back door, I parked in the qfcparking lot and am on my way home, I'm sorry but I am fleeing from a DV situation and needed the help. I live in south Tacoma and it is going to be a two hour drive, I'm so sorry. I don't want to waste anymore of your time, thank you for the donation. You saved me and my kid.

In hindsight, there were lot of red flags but I ignored as I was new to this experience.[/QUOTE]She also asked me for money after the restaurant I told her no money until I see you naked, she bailed.

She has borderline personality, probably soon to be homeless.

[QUOTE=Papicho;6677882]...

She has borderline personality, probably soon to be homeless.[/QUOTE]Probably half to two thirds of the girls I meet off of SA have mental health issues of one sort or another. I don't know if you can extrapolate that to society in general (although a lot of people these days are obviously messed up) or if SA or SB is just where a girl is likely to land if she is too dysfunctional to work at a strip club or escort.

I've been doing the sugaring thing off and on for about fifteen years. It seems to me that there are more girls who are seriously fucked up in the head these days than there were before. But that is a small sample size and there were no shortage of nutjobs when I started doing this in 2008 and 2009.

Recently I was in communications with an (apparently) pretty cute 20 yo off of SB. We were chatting on text and basically it came down to she wasn't willing to meet, or wasn't willing to meet very often, or could only meet for ten or fifteen minutes at a time. She said this was because of her severe anxiety and panic attacks when she was in public. On the other hand she was polite and respectful when I politely explained to her that there was no way any money was going to change hands unless we met in the flesh. Also it was pretty obvious that her expectations for compensation were outside of my comfort zone. Blocked and moved on.

[QUOTE=Mcrud56;6677338]Honestly valid, just didn't think you all were forking out money just to send messages. I don't have a problem dropping cash on these girls, but I definitely would want a return on investment LOL.[/QUOTE]Yes, the only way to message is through a paid premium.

[QUOTE=Mcrud56;6677338]Honestly valid, just didn't think you all were forking out money just to send messages. I don't have a problem dropping cash on these girls, but I definitely would want a return on investment LOL.[/QUOTE]The ROI is much better on SA if you have a normal amount of game or just a decent human being in general. I mean sometimes 2+ hours with these girls all holes open and they don't act like complete skanks, (although 99% of pro girls have been great to me LOL) but SA is a numbers game in the messaging. And have boundaries. They know what they're there for, and you do as well.

Pic seller, but claims she'll meet for $300. Don't believe it.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/be19ea8d-18fa-458e-8749-3ca11fc310b4[/URL]

[QUOTE=HBadger;6678866]The ROI is much better on SA if you have a normal amount of game or just a decent human being in general. I mean sometimes 2+ hours with these girls all holes open and they don't act like complete skanks, (although 99% of pro girls have been great to me LOL) but SA is a numbers game in the messaging. And have boundaries. They know what they're there for, and you do as well.[/QUOTE]If he really doesn't want to pay, a lot of the regular SBs on seeking are also on dating apps and fetlife (and on fetlife you get some great NSFW pics). Some are pretty straight up about it. Just got to know what you're looking for. But, let's face it, most regular guys are lazy af haha.

[QUOTE=Mamouna;6680430]If he really doesn't want to pay, a lot of the regular SBs on seeking are also on dating apps and fetlife (and on fetlife you get some great NSFW pics). Some are pretty straight up about it. Just got to know what you're looking for. But, let's face it, most regular guys are lazy af haha.[/QUOTE]Whenever I look at fet, I just see fatties.

[QUOTE=Papicho;6677882]She also asked me for money after the restaurant I told her no money until I see you naked, she bailed.

She has borderline personality, probably soon to be homeless.[/QUOTE]Yes run! See post #7321. Different handle but definitely the same girl.

[QUOTE=PoonHound1969;6681133]Whenever I look at fet, I just see fatties.[/QUOTE]Yes, I refer to it as Fat Life.

Not sure what to make of females who are premium subscribers on seeking. Have a date set, she's been on seeking a year, hopefully some info?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/10f84b7a-8c14-4b65-90e2-d202a2eea63a[/URL]

[QUOTE=Michael1967;6681346]Yes, I refer to it as Fat Life.[/QUOTE]I love it.

She's confirmed then bailed on me a few times, so I just gave up on her. Hot pics, but there's a few flags there. Let me know how it goes.

[QUOTE=PoundVages;6681363]Not sure what to make of females who are premium subscribers on seeking. Have a date set, she's been on seeking a year, hopefully some info?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/10f84b7a-8c14-4b65-90e2-d202a2eea63a[/URL][/QUOTE]

I was browsing SA earlier and this one popped up: [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f182e290-4e55-40c2-b734-08a9b5972a96[/URL].

What is so strange is that when browsing FL I noticed a fried commented on her photo. And I recognized her as the same one in SA: [URL]https://fetlife.com/users/15279792[/URL].

[QUOTE=MauiGlory;6681855]I was browsing SA earlier and this one popped up: [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f182e290-4e55-40c2-b734-08a9b5972a96[/URL].

What is so strange is that when browsing FL I noticed a fried commented on her photo. And I recognized her as the same one in SA: [URL]https://fetlife.com/users/15279792[/URL].[/QUOTE]I mean, most of the seeking women have an addiction to attention. FL is a similar kind of sexualized thrill. It's not easy to search thru fetlife but they're there. I was going to post my collection of links of seeking girls I know on fetlife (esp one selfish idiot who really deserves it) but I've seen what happens when that stuff gets posted. I'm not that petty.

Some 'royalty' walks amongst us. I've never had a thing for porn stars and still don't. But I never thought I would have had a date with someone I had previously 'found' on xvideos or similar. An FYI to fellow members. Charlotte Carmen explores the Seattle SB scene.

Be careful with this one, she literally cried in the restaurant asking me for money saying that she doesn't have anything for her kid. I did my community service and gave her 150. I'll admit she has a glorious gym fat ass that dazzled me. She promised we will meet again for the ol good in-and-out.

Before meeting she asked money saying that she got into a crash accident and needs money for the hospital, that was pure BS, sent fake pics from internet (that's how I got her), I confronted her and she stopped responding.

Pathological liar,

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8227e9ca-3474-4e32-abfb-f8c7a511a970[/URL]

[QUOTE=MauiGlory;6681855]I was browsing SA earlier and this one popped up: [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f182e290-4e55-40c2-b734-08a9b5972a96[/URL].

What is so strange is that when browsing FL I noticed a fried commented on her photo. And I recognized her as the same one in SA: [URL]https://fetlife.com/users/15279792[/URL].[/QUOTE]Well that didn't take long. Both profiles are now gone.

[QUOTE=Hypster;6681745]She's confirmed then bailed on me a few times, so I just gave up on her. Hot pics, but there's a few flags there. Let me know how it goes.[/QUOTE]Some of those pic aren't even shot in Seattle. That would be my red flag. The decor doesn't match apartments in Seattle to me. Why just waste time in a site and not meet? Strange. Could be a lotta thirsty dues in line though.

SA is going downhill. They do nothing to weed out fakes and scammers. I did one month of Diamond and got not one more look or responses. Just the same old 1:10. Don't pay extra IMO. Got to be some tech savvy fella that can code up a better platform??

I'm getting bunch that want to WhatsApp. They always get to asking if I invest in crypto. LOL ahhhhhh, no I like to keep my money (FTX?). Scammers abound.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;6681346]Yes, I refer to it as Fat Life.[/QUOTE]For sure! Remember fat is the new skinny! Smh.

[QUOTE=BackInSea;6672467]For those that remember Crystal Gere aka Cristal Love from old old old TNA.

Great fuck. Takes a creampie. Great dick sucker. Loves getting her pussy licked and then sliding in raw.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6f5476fb-cef0-4990-ac87-75df7562fdf1[/URL][/QUOTE]Jesus the filters are so haven't on the pics! No way she looks anything like that. The wall is real!!

[QUOTE=Twister100;6671076]GPS.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/62cc92cb-6914-47bc-a4ec-e9793170b322[/URL]

Contacted me. Wanted 1-2k week.[/QUOTE]30 yo!! On sale, 21 full price, 25 discount, 35 on clearance, 40 and up GOODWILL. The delusion!! Holy crap! Bet she can't boil water either.

[QUOTE=Mamouna;6647819]Not to brag but I do have game and I'm in shape but the scams are getting more sophisticated. Like, cons over two or more days. Twice already I've been hit by the same one: chat / flirt, arrange a date, cancels right before the date, reschedule, next time asks for uber money. I am definitely out of practice spotting fake from real profiles, I guess I need to go back to asking for verification.[/QUOTE]Not a brag, just the truth my brother. Game and fitness means nothing to these women! It should but it doesn't. They ALL have a Chad and Tyrone they F for free!! Just the facts. They tend to wake up at about 30-32. They so ran through by that age then to realize that Tyrone ain't got shit and expect me to make up the difference with a used up VJ!! AND PAY 1 k to play hotdog down the hall way? LOL SA has been an eye opening experience. Society is in big trouble. Passport won't help anymore either. Social media has blown that up too. Women are lost. IMO.

Sometimes you get lucky with a one nighter but be careful with the young ones. And we're paying them to LEAVE!! Must be a ***** for a single young man these days out there.

Just my opinion. And we all know what those are like.

[QUOTE=Papicho;6683443]Be careful with this one, she literally cried in the restaurant asking me for money saying that she doesn't have anything for her kid. I did my community service and gave her 150. I'll admit she has a glorious gym fat ass that dazzled me. She promised we will meet again for the ol good in-and-out.

Before meeting she asked money saying that she got into a crash accident and needs money for the hospital, that was pure BS, sent fake pics from internet (that's how I got her), I confronted her and she stopped responding.

Pathological liar,

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8227e9ca-3474-4e32-abfb-f8c7a511a970[/URL][/QUOTE]I know this may sound ridiculous, but one of the many methods I use to screen on SA is their fingernails. If their fingernails are so long that they can't do anything practical without breaking them or if they look like talons, then they will be a pain in the ass. At the same, I also look at how they hold their phone if they are doing selfies. If it's some elaborate shit (like you'll see in her pictures), then she's a pain in the ass. I'm sure there are guys out there that like that stuff, but I want someone that's going to fuck me senseless. People with long nails that they will worry about breaking are not going to fuck me senseless.

[QUOTE=Paradigum;6683359]Some 'royalty' walks amongst us. I've never had a thing for porn stars and still don't. But I never thought I would have had a date with someone I had previously 'found' on xvideos or similar. An FYI to fellow members. Charlotte Carmen explores the Seattle SB scene.[/QUOTE]Are you willing to share a link to the profile? Or at least mention which site you came across her on? Her rates? How the date went?

[QUOTE=Hypster;6681745]She's confirmed then bailed on me a few times, so I just gave up on her. Hot pics, but there's a few flags there. Let me know how it goes.[/QUOTE]Had a date set, she doesn't show, no text, no message. Avoid this one. *shrugs*.