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Gents, I've been getting a lot of messages asking for my SA hack method. For reasons that at present will remain unsaid, and to save a lot of time and effort in individual correspondence, please note that I am not sharing my method with anyone else, seniors or otherwise, at this time.
In response to the favorable comments here, well here has been my experience the second time around. Three dozen messages and three responses. One could not believe that I was not interested in pictures and videos and expressed her wishes in a bitchy manner. One was funnier as hell. I shared my private photo and then she not only dropped me but dropped out of SA immediately after viewing my picture. The third is basically a fat MILF and she has since ghosted me. Contrast this my first time around. Almost everybody responded. Three girls I met were all bbfscip after first meet. One I kept for several months and she was smoking. Sadly, she moved on. So my point is, I think the coronavirus has made things worse in my experience.
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[QUOTE=GianniVersace;4783949]This Covid 19 situation has put me in a awful Rut. What's everyone's opinion on SA vs WYP? Which site is better to find a good Utr girl for a decent price? Boy do I miss the good old craigslist days.[/QUOTE]I have met girls from both sites and I don't have an active account. The SA girls are better quality in my opinion but do come with a high entrance fee. I just hooked up with a girl that originally wanted $1000 about 6 months ago. I rejected her offer with a counter offer of $200 and said our thank you and goodbyes.
Out of the blue she pinged me and asked if I still was interested. When a slim, smoking hot 22 yo asks for a hook up I certainly won't say no. I mentioned we had a large donation gap but we agreed on $300 and the deal was set. I won't pay over 300 so some girls get passed on but times are tough for some girls so it has worked out for me. If you have deeper pockets and patience SA can be productive however there are a lot of GPS and platonic ladies on there. The main issue I find with SA, other than the higher prices, is that most of the younger ladies can't do an Incall. The ladies that I prefer fall into this category most of the time so if I land a safe incall girl I keep her around as long as possible. I have given up on the traditional escort sites like STG, etc. Too many rip-off opportunities and I had to pull a gun on one event back in the BP days so I just want the drama free girls. So far so good but they just aren't as many of them to chose from.
The problem with WYP is the higher the offer the more tokens it takes to open the message. So $100 is 20 tokens and I figured that's a decent number to get girls to hit yes, and some do, but some of these girls love to hit that counter button like we are in some serious negotiation and nothing can be changed once we agree on a number. I even put in my bio to just accept the initial offer and we will talk about a better number after but I still get counters of $200, which is 40 tokens, and one even sent one for $500.
[QUOTE=GianniVersace;4783949]This Covid 19 situation has put me in a awful Rut. What's everyone's opinion on SA vs WYP? Which site is better to find a good Utr girl for a decent price? Boy do I miss the good old craigslist days.[/QUOTE]I find that the 2 sites attract very different types of women. IN GENERAL, more pro's on WYP. More of an escort vibe. More women looking for an hourly hookup. No need to take them for coffee first. They know what they are there for and to provide. Versus SA, where one can more easily find what I like, the girl-next-door student, grad student, young professional who needs some funds, loves sex, and often loves the kink of being paid for it. But the downside of SA is that to find that you have to weed out the "platonics" and gps and women who are titillated but too scared to act or are just time-wasters.
So for me it's a no-brainer; SA for me. But it takes effort and $90/ month.
They are of course sister sites, created by the same MIT grad. Neither one has proved satisfactory. Too much work, but in practical terms, I prefer SA, and the higher percentage of non-pros on that site.
There are a lot of ladies that appear on both sites. My experience has been WYP increases the chances of misunderstandings, since you initiate contact with the ladies based on an offer of $$ just to meet for a date, and start communicating. Notwithstanding you stating clearly to them that you don't pay them just to show up to meet, a large percentage of them get upset and irritated immediately, and thus, the likelihood of actually meeting goes to nil. This is true for WYP even though in my opinion, most of ladies are either former SW, or are street walkers in attitude.
This is purely based on my experience, of course. I have not had many successes on SA either, probably due to my inability and refusal to host, but when you do hit on SA, it generally a very nice time with a woman who is not yet jaded, and well worth it. The question is though, is SA worth the monthly fee, plus the real work you must put in to meet anyone, over the long course. In reflecting on my past experiences, I would say no.
I recommend that you not bother with WYP, because, even at the lower price to buy credits, its not worth it, IMO. SA, particularly if you are able to or willing to host, is worth the try.
[QUOTE=GianniVersace;4783949]This Covid 19 situation has put me in a awful Rut. What's everyone's opinion on SA vs WYP? Which site is better to find a good Utr girl for a decent price? Boy do I miss the good old craigslist days.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Longjblues;4784638]The question is though, is SA worth the monthly fee, plus the real work you must put in to meet anyone, over the long course. In reflecting on my past experiences, I would say no.
I recommend that you not bother with WYP, because, even at the lower price to buy credits, its not worth it, IMO. SA, particularly if you are able to or willing to host, is worth the try.[/QUOTE]What do you prefer, vs SA?
I can't host, and that does limit the options. Many of the SA women will go to a hotel; some will host. But usually neither without meeting (for coffee or a drink) first, which is fine with me; I prefer that.
Is there any key words to notice to gauge a girls intent on these sites? For example casual or nsa or "mutually benefical" ? Obviously platonic is a red flag but "looking for someone to spoil me" always gets me cringing heh.
[QUOTE=AcconRed;4785498]Is there any key words to notice to gauge a girls intent on these sites? For example casual or nsa or "mutually benefical" ? Obviously platonic is a red flag but "looking for someone to spoil me" always gets me cringing heh.[/QUOTE]Here's an example of one I got early on, thru my hack.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/d563e1c6-e820-41dd-ac15-e69d60d125ee[/URL]
120 hh with DFK and CIP. I posted her before, and I see she's not signed onto the SA site for close to a year. But the key sentence is:
"I'm looking for someone to meet every once in a while to have a little bit of fun with and possibly help one another out from time to time" 😄.
She's a true ho who used to advertise on backpage. But fairly typical of the type of text that the true hos write on SA, based on the 5 others who I also easily inseminated from that site.
Hope that helps.
[QUOTE=Longjblues;4784638]They are of course sister sites, created by the same MIT grad. Neither one has proved satisfactory. Too much work, but in practical terms, I prefer SA, and the higher percentage of non-pros on that site.
There are a lot of ladies that appear on both sites. My experience has been WYP increases the chances of misunderstandings, since you initiate contact with the ladies based on an offer of $$ just to meet for a date, and start communicating. Notwithstanding you stating clearly to them that you don't pay them just to show up to meet, a large percentage of them get upset and irritated immediately, and thus, the likelihood of actually meeting goes to nil. This is true for WYP even though in my opinion, most of ladies are either former SW, or are street walkers in attitude.
This is purely based on my experience, of course. I have not had many successes on SA either, probably due to my inability and refusal to host, but when you do hit on SA, it generally a very nice time with a woman who is not yet jaded, and well worth it. The question is though, is SA worth the monthly fee, plus the real work you must put in to meet anyone, over the long course. In reflecting on my past experiences, I would say no.
I recommend that you not bother with WYP, because, even at the lower price to buy credits, its not worth it, IMO. SA, particularly if you are able to or willing to host, is worth the try.[/QUOTE]LJB thanks for the feedback. Is there any other site you would recommend now to find some action? Also you need to clear your inbox. Its full and you can not receive any messages.
[QUOTE=KingOfFours;4785578]Here's an example of one I got early on, thru my hack.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/d563e1c6-e820-41dd-ac15-e69d60d125ee[/URL]
120 hh with DFK and CIP. I posted her before, and I see she's not signed onto the SA site for close to a year. But the key sentence is:
"I'm looking for someone to meet every once in a while to have a little bit of fun with and possibly help one another out from time to time" 😄.
She's a true ho who used to advertise on backpage. But fairly typical of the type of text that the true hos write on SA, based on the 5 others who I also easily inseminated from that site.
Hope that helps.[/QUOTE]Also to be honest she is too old to be a sugar baby LOL. Thats a HARD PASS.
I'm going to give it a shot for a month and see what happens. Expecting to be disappointed but hoping not to get jaded with the amount of girls that want a small business loan from a SD heh.
[QUOTE=AcconRed;4785498]Is there any key words to notice to gauge a girls intent on these sites? For example casual or nsa or "mutually benefical" ? Obviously platonic is a red flag but "looking for someone to spoil me" always gets me cringing heh.[/QUOTE]I have found it NOT reliable to just go by the language they use. It goes both ways. Some profiles read like they are dtf, and have very suggestive photos, and they message back "NO SEX. " Others say "platonic" or sound really vague. And are totally dtf. "Mutually beneficial" means different things; there is no way to know without starting a conversation.
[QUOTE=GianniVersace;4785599]Also to be honest she is too old to be a sugar baby LOL. Thats a HARD PASS.[/QUOTE]LOL worth the price, which as a 'hack' product was $0. Scary!