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		[QUOTE=ApplePiePussy;6253863]The reality is that there shouldn't be this much variance in service quality for the same exact place. This tells me that the mamasan or owner doesn't really care. It's a free for all in terms of pricing and services. Whatever the girl can swindle is what she will get. There's just not enough reviews here on this site for someone to know exactly who to see at each place. The best parlor in the country, Milk Spa in Orlando, does not really need reviews because the pricing is fixed and the service is impeccable regardless of you who get. This is all due to the mamasan Kiko who runs a tight ship. The place is busy from morning to night and she is able to leverage that earnings potential to recruit the best girls. She also asks you after each and every session how the service was and she takes it seriously. If a girl gets enough bad reviews, she's gone. Also, the girls tend to stay for months at a time, so they are not on this 10 day swindle as much as possible mentality that the Chicago rotation girls have.
The Chicago market is ripe for a disruption. Whoever copies the Milk spa business model will take over the market. Bad experiences have really soured the parlor scene here. It's time for something better.[/QUOTE]Preach! I remember Crystal Spa in Matteson. Fantastic place, hot, young ladies, consistent service across the board. Mamasan led you in and walked you out and made sure you were satisfied. Sadly, pandemic was the end the for it. No other place like it in the south burbs.
	 
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Judy
	
	
		[QUOTE=HappyGardener;6253664]If you didn't realize Judy was older then you didn't RTFF.[/QUOTE]Oh, I knew I worded it wrong, that was the main reason I went.
	 
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		[QUOTE=OrdLover;6253423]Yes Judy is in her 60's. And she is definitely not a looker. She is a granny. On that note she been busy with a lot of new customers. I can't even get an appointment.
Remember guys this is the massage forum so you won't always be getting FS at everyplace. If you want guarantee FS then go to aamp or escort forums.
On the granny note. Any recommendations for a good granny from Chinatown and up to northern suburbs? Pm are welcome.[/QUOTE]I wasn't disappointed really, just expected more from what I read. I'd go back to her.
Unwind in China Town has mostly Grannys that don't look bad at all. Been there a few times with no complaints.
	 
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Clm
	
	
		Does anyone at CLM do BBBJ Besides Sandra and Jessica. Moving soon so I want to get in with one more and debating who I should see. I saw Sarah but I never got to the BJ part with her so idk if she does BBBJ. If she does I would see her again.
	 
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El Pacifico
	
	
		I heard this place mentioned a couple times on here but in older post. Is it still a good spot? Are massages decent along with other things?
	 
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Are you sure?
	
	
		[QUOTE=RubLuvr;6253722]I get a kick out of the super studs that orgasm paid talent all the time. I see why they can charge so much, its amazing the way they sell a fantasy. Takes some talent but they also have a very captive clientele.[/QUOTE]Maybe you're unaware that these women we pay for are also human. They get horny for some clients they connect with, and yes, they cum too. Escorts cumming is probably much more rare, but spa gals get off, especially if they don't do FS all the time. I've been invited to the homes of a few spa girls, because they wanted more fun, and I didn't pay a dime. Believe whatever you want.
	 
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		I went to Crystal once probably 10 years ago and the man made lady I had was in her 40's. She was a money grubber so I never went back.
[QUOTE=Baggio57;6254218]Preach! I remember Crystal Spa in Matteson. Fantastic place, hot, young ladies, consistent service across the board. Mamasan led you in and walked you out and made sure you were satisfied. Sadly, pandemic was the end the for it. No other place like it in the south burbs.[/QUOTE]
	 
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Crystal Spa
	
	
		[QUOTE=DMichaels69;6254566]I went to Crystal once probably 10 years ago and the man made lady I had was in her 40's. She was a money grubber so I never went back.[/QUOTE]You just never know, do you? I'd been there maybe a dozen times and never had a bad experience.
	 
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Karly at Ozone spa
	
	
		[QUOTE=Exploradora;6253369]What was the damage and what's on her menu / prices now?[/QUOTE]Karly has everything on the menu. BBBJ, BBBJWS (she will actually beg you to drop your load down her throat then gargle what's left over). All sex has always been covered. She says never will do bareback sex (just BBBJ). Her specialty has to be anal. She really seems to love it, and can take a pounding. She is really hot and probably 110 lbs but she will let you go as hard as you can. She Charges me 240 for everything. In my opinion its a steal, total porn star experience every time. Never know though, she is leaving 12/19, so a lot of these girls will make deals right before they leave to accumulate cash.
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		[QUOTE=OrdLover;6253423]Yes Judy is in her 60's. And she is definitely not a looker. She is a granny. On that note she been busy with a lot of new customers. I can't even get an appointment.
Remember guys this is the massage forum so you won't always be getting FS at everyplace. If you want guarantee FS then go to aamp or escort forums.
On the granny note. Any recommendations for a good granny from Chinatown and up to northern suburbs? Pm are welcome.[/QUOTE]Dude same!
Used to be able to call her and be there within 15-30. Now she's slammed and usually says some time 2-3 hours away. Good for her. Bad for last minute me.
	 
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		[QUOTE=BareOnly2018;6254356]Does anyone at CLM do BBBJ Besides Sandra and Jessica. Moving soon so I want to get in with one more and debating who I should see. I saw Sarah but I never got to the BJ part with her so idk if she does BBBJ. If she does I would see her again.[/QUOTE]Nicole, Melissa and Sarah do. Bella did with me, but some reviewers said they had no luck. Sadly Mia and Mila are gone but they did great BBBJ. I believe Emily does when she's there, but she's almost never there.
Salma, Madison, Natalie, Claudia, Suzie and Zara definitely don't. The others I haven't seen yet so can't comment.
	 
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		[QUOTE=ApplePiePussy;6253863]The reality is that there shouldn't be this much variance in service quality for the same exact place. This tells me that the mamasan or owner doesn't really care. It's a free for all in terms of pricing and services. Whatever the girl can swindle is what she will get. There's just not enough reviews here on this site for someone to know exactly who to see at each place. The best parlor in the country, Milk Spa in Orlando, does not really need reviews because the pricing is fixed and the service is impeccable regardless of you who get. This is all due to the mamasan Kiko who runs a tight ship. The place is busy from morning to night and she is able to leverage that earnings potential to recruit the best girls. She also asks you after each and every session how the service was and she takes it seriously. If a girl gets enough bad reviews, she's gone. Also, the girls tend to stay for months at a time, so they are not on this 10 day swindle as much as possible mentality that the Chicago rotation girls have.
The Chicago market is ripe for a disruption. Whoever copies the Milk spa business model will take over the market. Bad experiences have really soured the parlor scene here. It's time for something better.[/QUOTE]I agree. I went after making an appointment with Anne, and I ended up getting someone else. The service was still decent, but not what I was expecting.
	 
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Any seniors?
	
	
		[QUOTE=SpaDude777;6252875]Just saw Karly again yesterday. She is a total freak and absolute anal queen. As always, begged me to drop my load down her throat when I was done pounding every hole. She told me she is leaving for Thailand. Her last day at the spa is 12/19.[/QUOTE]Can any seniors verify that Carly speaks Greek?
	 
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		[QUOTE=SeekingSpare;6255379]I agree. I went after making an appointment with Anne, and I ended up getting someone else. The service was still decent, but not what I was expecting.[/QUOTE]I tried calling that place once and only got a call back hours later. Another time they texted me out of the blue and badgered me to come over. A semi-legit place like SXL or WRS with a steady lineup is much more likely to honor appointments than the places that are fronts for apartments where the girls change every week or two.
	 
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		[QUOTE=SeekingSpare;6255379]I agree. I went after making an appointment with Anne, and I ended up getting someone else. The service was still decent, but not what I was expecting.[/QUOTE]Yea good number of AMP's will do that just to get you in the door. Even when a particular girl isn't even there anymore and when you show up they play dumb LOL. I used to say fuck it and stayed but always regretted it later. Now, if a girl I requested or made an appointment isn't there or available I turn around and walk out. Luckily I was able to see her before the blitzkrieg started LOL.