[QUOTE=TucsonMonger;5902075]So 30 per dance for BBFS?[/QUOTE]Correct. Was my ATF.
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[QUOTE=TucsonMonger;5902075]So 30 per dance for BBFS?[/QUOTE]Correct. Was my ATF.
[QUOTE=SumDumbFuk;5901411]I don't think this is so crazy. Over my budget for sure but there are girls there asking these types of rates. I remember one of the calendar girls saying $500 for FS in the VIP room. Also one spinner started with 450 in the champagne room for raw FS. She must have been getting that rate because she was always taking guys into the champagne room. She was always back there for a while so it was not a one or two dance thing. I didn't agree to that rate but did go back for 30 a dance. Well worth it as it was raw and FS.[/QUOTE]My frame of reference is Curves. $300 seems to be the common VIP rate there. Perhaps more if she's a really popular dancer. And, for that price, you probably can't expect more than, hopefully, really good dances. So, the $500 price may have been a bit high. But probably not by too much.
According to their sites, Curves & the Boat no longer charge entrance fees. It looks like the VIP room at Curves now provides more privacy. Anybody been there recently.
[QUOTE=TucsonMonger;5881108]Has anyone experienced this young tight lighter skinned AA treat. Good floor dances but I had to head out before I could sample in the cabanas. She talked an ok story. Any info appreciated.[/QUOTE]I have. She has an Airbnb near 22nd and Wilmot. About 5 minutes away.
Let me first say that I miss the old days, as in 5 - 15 years ago.
That being said I cannot believe that any woman, hot or not, has the hot pussy to ask for $300 or more for any type of full service in a CR or cabana. That's just BS and anyone here, regardless of your income, is a fool to pay it.
Rolled into venom recently and had some drunk spinner come to give me dances. I like petite women so I was game. We did a few and I asked about FS in the cabana and she quoted 3. I said for 3 I'd rather get a room so we can relax and enjoy one another. This apparently blew her mind and she copped an attitude. I said thanks darlin' here's your floor money and best of luck tonight.
Unique came by and we chatted. She's a sweet pro who reminded me of cj or carmen, as far as attitude. We had some dances and though she's not my body type, we rolled to the cabanas.
Very nice BBBJ and BBFS, the little brain took over, for 2 and no complaints from this old boy.
No signs of a need for penicillin.
She's a pro with a sweet attitude but fun.
Chances are you can negotiate a better rate.
Best of luck gents.
[QUOTE=ShyNine;5904548]Let me first say that I miss the old days, as in 5 - 15 years ago.
That being said I cannot believe that any woman, hot or not, has the hot pussy to ask for $300 or more for any type of full service in a CR or cabana. That's just BS and anyone here, regardless of your income, is a fool to pay it.
Rolled into venom recently and had some drunk spinner come to give me dances. I like petite women so I was game. We did a few and I asked about FS in the cabana and she quoted 3. I said for 3 I'd rather get a room so we can relax and enjoy one another. This apparently blew her mind and she copped an attitude. I said thanks darlin' here's your floor money and best of luck tonight.
Unique came by and we chatted. She's a sweet pro who reminded me of cj or carmen, as far as attitude. We had some dances and though she's not my body type, we rolled to the cabanas.
Very nice BBBJ and BBFS, the little brain took over, for 2 and no complaints from this old boy.
No signs of a need for penicillin.
She's a pro with a sweet attitude but fun.
Chances are you can negotiate a better rate.
Best of luck gents.[/QUOTE]Great review and I am with you, I do not pay more than $200. If anyone wants to pay more because they believe they should more power to them it is just stupid. Keep blowing your money I am sure they ladies love them suckers.
[QUOTE=ShakenGrind;5902267]My frame of reference is Curves. $300 seems to be the common VIP rate there. Perhaps more if she's a really popular dancer. And, for that price, you probably can't expect more than, hopefully, really good dances. So, the $500 price may have been a bit high. But probably not by too much.
According to their sites, Curves & the Boat no longer charge entrance fees. It looks like the VIP room at Curves now provides more privacy. Anybody been there recently.[/QUOTE]Most of the girls I've had ask for 3 have come down significantly when pressed. Even to half that.
[QUOTE=IkkyuSojunn;5905437]Most of the girls I've had ask for 3 have come down significantly when pressed. Even to half that.[/QUOTE]Most will start high but most are very negotiable. Some won't budge even a little. It's an industry where haggling is very justifiable. Good luck.
I remember 10-15 years ago going to TD's East and paying $ to get access to the VIP room for the night and then. 25/ song to do whatever the girl of my choice (usually a hot big tittied red head) would allow (FS) for as little or as long as I wanted. I would usually walk out fully satisfied for $$ This was when I was a total newbie and didn't know about AMPs and when I did learn about AMPs I thought they only offered handys. I haven't asked for extras in the club for probably 7+ years since I can easily get 30-60 minutes of FS and a decent massage for $. 6- so when I see some of you talking about 3-5 $ for 30 minutes on a couch with little privacy it blows my mind. Granted the AMPs only offer Asian girls, almost exclusively middle aged and up, so the clubs offer a lot more variety, but from what I've been seeing lately there are very few girls at the club that attract my interest (I've mostly just been to the boat before 7 pm for cheaper drinks and staying until 9). Am I just too picky? I don't know, it just feels like the club isn't worth it anymore, or maybe it was never worth it and I was just too young, dumb, and full of cum to realize it. Perhaps some of you could provide some insight into why you prefer to get your action at the club and what is it you find appealing about it compared to an escort or AMP.
[QUOTE=GarudaDarkblac;5907468]I remember 10-15 years ago going to TD's East and paying $ to get access to the VIP room for the night and then. 25/ song to do whatever the girl of my choice (usually a hot big tittied red head) would allow (FS) for as little or as long as I wanted. I would usually walk out fully satisfied for $$ This was when I was a total newbie and didn't know about AMPs and when I did learn about AMPs I thought they only offered handys. I haven't asked for extras in the club for probably 7+ years since I can easily get 30-60 minutes of FS and a decent massage for $. 6- so when I see some of you talking about 3-5 $ for 30 minutes on a couch with little privacy it blows my mind. Granted the AMPs only offer Asian girls, almost exclusively middle aged and up, so the clubs offer a lot more variety, but from what I've been seeing lately there are very few girls at the club that attract my interest (I've mostly just been to the boat before 7 pm for cheaper drinks and staying until 9). Am I just too picky? I don't know, it just feels like the club isn't worth it anymore, or maybe it was never worth it and I was just too young, dumb, and full of cum to realize it. Perhaps some of you could provide some insight into why you prefer to get your action at the club and what is it you find appealing about it compared to an escort or AMP.[/QUOTE]I cannot speak to anyone else's reasons, but I prefer the club for a specific reason. I would love to try out an AMP, but I have issues with psoriasis that makes me uneasy about stripping down in front of anyone unless it's dark. In the club I can just pull it out if / when it gets to that, but since those nasty red splotches that show themselves on inconvenient areas of my body, it's best I avoid the AMP. Psoriasis isn't contagious, but it is enough to keep the provider who sees it want to keep her distance. That's just my reasoning though.
[QUOTE=JDSax7;5908764]I cannot speak to anyone else's reasons, but I prefer the club for a specific reason. I would love to try out an AMP, but I have issues with psoriasis that makes me uneasy about stripping down in front of anyone unless it's dark. In the club I can just pull it out if / when it gets to that, but since those nasty red splotches that show themselves on inconvenient areas of my body, it's best I avoid the AMP. Psoriasis isn't contagious, but it is enough to keep the provider who sees it want to keep her distance. That's just my reasoning though.[/QUOTE]I have had the same skin condition since I was 18. After yrs of going to a dermatologist got me nowhere. One day I spend to much time on my boat and got burnt. I noticed shortly after my patches were disappearing. I am now 60 and I hit the tanning beds at the gym now and I have no more psoriasis problems.
[QUOTE=DodgeBros;5908804] no more psoriasis problems.[/QUOTE]Possible help, but know that facts.
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[QUOTE=GarudaDarkblac;5907468]I remember 10-15 years ago going to TD's East and paying $ to get access to the VIP room for the night and then. 25/ song to do whatever the girl of my choice (usually a hot big tittied red head) would allow (FS) for as little or as long as I wanted. I would usually walk out fully satisfied for $$ This was when I was a total newbie and didn't know about AMPs and when I did learn about AMPs I thought they only offered handys. I haven't asked for extras in the club for probably 7+ years since I can easily get 30-60 minutes of FS and a decent massage for $. 6- so when I see some of you talking about 3-5 $ for 30 minutes on a couch with little privacy it blows my mind. Granted the AMPs only offer Asian girls, almost exclusively middle aged and up, so the clubs offer a lot more variety, but from what I've been seeing lately there are very few girls at the club that attract my interest (I've mostly just been to the boat before 7 pm for cheaper drinks and staying until 9). Am I just too picky? I don't know, it just feels like the club isn't worth it anymore, or maybe it was never worth it and I was just too young, dumb, and full of cum to realize it. Perhaps some of you could provide some insight into why you prefer to get your action at the club and what is it you find appealing about it compared to an escort or AMP.[/QUOTE]The clubs here around that time were like nothing I've seen anywhere before or since. 2007-2008 was the peak. I miss that time.
New girl going by Diamond at venom pretty nice natural body. Anyone gotten any play time out of her?
[QUOTE=DirtyDeedsDone;5905667]Most will start high but most are very negotiable. Some won't budge even a little. It's an industry where haggling is very justifiable. Good luck.[/QUOTE]I had one tell me 8 bills once. I laughed and said, "Just tell me no, don't try to play those kind of games. " She said, "Okay. No. But you wave that kind of money at me. Yes. " I suppose it was the same idea that I had when someone pressured me to buy one of my Harleys. I put a stupid high price tag on it because I didn't want to sell it.
Stopped by venom around 8, full of older guys, a few really large girls but a lot of very good lookers. Tatiana was there and she looked amazing since she got back. Much better attitude too.
Later I hit the boat and found a smoking Italian woman, 30's similar body to Tatiana and she does play but a bit of gps.
This young lady is on seeking and says she is a dancer, have any of you had experience with her? Thanks.
[QUOTE=FlyingGuy23;5920255]This young lady is on seeking and says she is a dancer, have any of you had experience with her? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Nope. But that is defiantly defiantly Curves or Raiders locker room. I'm going with Curves since Raiders locker room is much much smaller.
[QUOTE=ShakenGrind;5888439]$500 for the full package in the VIP.[/QUOTE][blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] Hit up the websites, it's worth wading through all the fakes just to avoid such a fee that is guaranteed to give you that feeling of remorse afterwards when you realize how much of a waste of money that was. I've read this forum for years, I honestly believe most in here would tell that girl to go pound sand for $500.
[QUOTE=DirtyDeedsDone;5920551]Nope. But that is defiantly defiantly Curves or Raiders locker room. I'm going with Curves since Raiders locker room is much much smaller.[/QUOTE]I think about 6 months ago I got a first rate VIP experience from her at Raiders. 2 $ got me all access. Even a little backdoor that she seemed to enjoy more than I would expect.
Today I had some time so I started at the boat. No waitress so I had to get my own beer. Place had couple of girl nothing to brag about. Karen was there but she was busy giving handies to couple of old guys. Finished my beer and headed to venom. The first one to see me was Diamond, not the Diamond you think this one is a bit thicker but still sexy, pretty face and nice ass. She is friend and likes to talk. She did express she will not do anything but just dance on the cabanas. So two dances which were not too bad and passed. Then this other girl came by I forgot her name she is also AA but slim with a great body small tits a beautiful face with long black wig. She did have 3 inch nails that stood out from far away. She was very chatty and well verse. We did talk for like about an hour harps great conversation criticizing all other big dancers. We had couple of floor dances and she seem to be offering more so w stalk about price and agreed on good rate for an amazing time in there. Paid the man and off to the raises. Dam that girls was so hot, great BJ skills and with a very soft and tigh pussy. She rode me like no other she was wet and dripping so I know she enjoyed her self. We did doggie and I pounded that sexy ass like no other. We finished clean up and after that we talked for another while. She said she was from Phoenix and will let me know when she is back.
On my way out I saw Jeanette from the boat under the same name, gave her a dollar as she was on stage. She recognized me and exchange pleasantries. She got my number and said she would call me so we can arrange out call.
Will report when she call.
[QUOTE=ChicaLovr22;5931637]Today I had some time so I started at the boat. No waitress so I had to get my own beer. Place had couple of girl nothing to brag about. Karen was there but she was busy giving handies to couple of old guys. Finished my beer and headed to venom. The first one to see me was Diamond, not the Diamond you think this one is a bit thicker but still sexy, pretty face and nice ass. She is friend and likes to talk. She did express she will not do anything but just dance on the cabanas. So two dances which were not too bad and passed. Then this other girl came by I forgot her name she is also AA but slim with a great body small tits a beautiful face with long black wig. She did have 3 inch nails that stood out from far away. She was very chatty and well verse. We did talk for like about an hour harps great conversation criticizing all other big dancers. We had couple of floor dances and she seem to be offering more so w stalk about price and agreed on good rate for an amazing time in there. Paid the man and off to the raises. Dam that girls was so hot, great BJ skills and with a very soft and tigh pussy. She rode me like no other she was wet and dripping so I know she enjoyed her self. We did doggie and I pounded that sexy ass like no other. We finished clean up and after that we talked for another while. She said she was from Phoenix and will let me know when she is back.
On my way out I saw Jeanette from the boat under the same name, gave her a dollar as she was on stage. She recognized me and exchange pleasantries. She got my number and said she would call me so we can arrange out call.
Will report when she call.[/QUOTE]Was her name Unique?
Has lowered their private VIP areas back to $50 from the $100 they were asking a while back. Honestly almost prefer this to the Venom cabanas since they had changed the curtains up.
[QUOTE=TucsonMonger;5948466]Was her name Unique?[/QUOTE]To be honest I don't recall but she may be that one. She was tall, slim nice hips and sexy ass with small tits. She wore a long hair wig and she had the longest nails I have ever seen on a girl at the club. She was all dolled up and look very pretty.
[QUOTE=TucsonMonger;5948466]Was her name Unique?[/QUOTE]I had seen Jeanette a few times at the Boat in the VIP. She would always want more more and more for anything that we did. I stopped getting any dances from her because of it. One weekend my cousin came in to town and we went to the Boat. While I went in the restroom apparently Jeanette hanged him into the VIP before I could kiss of warn him ahead of time. As he was coming out she was yelling at him that he hadn't giving her enough money and got the manager involved in the conversation. He gave her an additional. 40 to basically shut the hell up. I felt bad for my cousin, a little since he should have waited for me to give him a but of a heads up, but he should have at least got a drink first. We decided to leave and go to Christie's since a dancer from the Christie's in Phoenix was suppose to be there dancing that he knew and adored. Short story when we got there she wasn't there and had drank too much the night before. He called her later and they met up for drinks and a hotel that she was staying at near the club and airport.
[QUOTE=TucsonMonger;5918259]New girl going by Diamond at venom pretty nice natural body. Anyone gotten any play time out of her?[/QUOTE]I assume this is no the same Diamond at the Boat. Asking because maybe she switched clubs.
[QUOTE=AtLion;5962350]I assume this is no the same Diamond at the Boat. Asking because maybe she switched clubs.[/QUOTE]Definitely not. The Diamond from the Boat was there yesterday.
[QUOTE=AtLion;5962350]I assume this is no the same Diamond at the Boat. Asking because maybe she switched clubs.[/QUOTE]Different Diamond altogether. Floor dances were descent but I had to depart before sampling behind the curtains.
[QUOTE=ChicaLovr22;5948545]To be honest I don't recall but she may be that one. She was tall, slim nice hips and sexy ass with small tits. She wore a long hair wig and she had the longest nails I have ever seen on a girl at the club. She was all dolled up and look very pretty.[/QUOTE]Unique is pretty short. But she gives good head and has one of the softest pussies.
Kim at the venom club recently?
[QUOTE=TucsonMonger;5962568]Different Diamond altogether. Floor dances were descent but I had to depart before sampling behind the curtains.[/QUOTE]I had a chance to talk to her and have some dances. Dances were very good but she did tell me she would not do anything behind curtains except for dances, so I let her leave. That's when this AA girl came by and we had fun. I guess it was not unique as this girl was tall and slender with nice curves.
[QUOTE=ChicaLovr22;5962928]I had a chance to talk to her and have some dances. Dances were very good but she did tell me she would not do anything behind curtains except for dances, so I let her leave. That's when this AA girl came by and we had fun. I guess it was not unique as this girl was tall and slender with nice curves.[/QUOTE]Hey chika did that aa have lepard tattoos or roses on her?
[QUOTE=TucsonMonger;5962573]Kim at the venom club recently?[/QUOTE]Last time I was in Venom was three weeks ago. Kim was there late on Sat afternoon.
[QUOTE=Lawdawg1120;5963649]Hey chika did that aa have lepard tattoos or roses on her?[/QUOTE]Hard to remember, I think but not sure she may had a leopard tattoo. But I am not 100 % sure. When I saw her was about 3 weeks ago.
[QUOTE=ChicaLovr22;5963924]Hard to remember, I think but not sure she may had a leopard tattoo. But I am not 100 % sure. When I saw her was about 3 weeks ago.[/QUOTE]If she had that lepard tattoo on her shoulder tall skinny with a tit job her name is rose.
[QUOTE=ChicaLovr22;5963924]Hard to remember, I think but not sure she may had a leopard tattoo. But I am not 100 % sure. When I saw her was about 3 weeks ago.[/QUOTE]Was this her chica?
[QUOTE=LawDawg1120;5964500]Was this her chica?[/QUOTE]Well this one doesn't look too AA but damn that's a nice body. Who is she?
[QUOTE=LawDawg1120;5964500]Was this her chica?[/QUOTE]No that was not the girl I saw, that one is one dish though. The one I saw was AA tall, slim, long fake hair I know because I grave her head when she was giving head and felt the clips, she had the longest fake nails I ever saw on a stripper.
[QUOTE=LawDawg1120;5964500]Was this her chica?[/QUOTE]Is this the Rose that use to work at Raiders? She looks great now, new hair dew too.
Fair number of girls, few guys.
Floor dances with Passion-50 why / o face, 20 why / o body. Great dances but no extras.
Next cr with Selina-40 something thick Latina good curves, FS offer but she was a disaster. She was such a spam she couldn't get anything done and demand 2 for the effort. I wonder if she has ever had sex or if she just saw a video.
[QUOTE=IkkyuSojunn;5969942]Fair number of girls, few guys.
Floor dances with Passion-50 why / o face, 20 why / o body. Great dances but no extras.
Next cr with Selina-40 something thick Latina good curves, FS offer but she was a disaster. She was such a spam she couldn't get anything done and demand 2 for the effort. I wonder if she has ever had sex or if she just saw a video.[/QUOTE]If I hear one more person on here complaining about getting dances from Selina, I'm going to say that it's.
Your own fault for getting burnt by her. We've spoken about her on many many occasions. Just don't do it. Eventually you might get what you initially wanted but the price will change. She's been in the industry way way too long and has done many men wrong over the years. But it seems that there is an unlimited amount of men she can screw over. Come on gentlemen play it smart.