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[QUOTE=Kellster;4140879]Yep- see link. *Note I only post links to these types of news stories which don't include names or pictures of hobbyists. That's below the belt imo unless they go after minors- then screw them'. They deserve to be arrested then.


[URL]https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/390-arrested-in-nationwide-prostitution-sting-including-38-in-cook-county/[/URL].[/QUOTE]However I would enjoy seeing the sites uncle county used for these stings. The word "trafficking" is used. So exactly what sites are specifically for that word?? All the usual ones we go to seem to me most have higher end photography paid by the lady of course as well as a nicely done and worded page on a site that they pay for each week. This is not just about election time it's all about election time. Again fellas watch out when "she" becomes mayor. I actually lived a block or so a way from one of the candidates when I was stupid enough to play that downtown game, however he will never win. He tries to go againist the machine, however he will fail IMHO. The "she's" are machine creatures. One will win. Then run for cover in regards to paying for something that women gladly offer and the last time I checked on my favorite site I didn't notice the handcuffs or ball and chain my lady was wearing under her victoria secret and jimmy choo attire! Just me I guess. The hypocrisy is insane.

[QUOTE=StanleyStankas;4141155]However I would enjoy seeing the sites uncle county used for these stings. The word "trafficking" is used. So exactly what sites are specifically for that word?? All the usual ones we go to seem to me most have higher end photography paid by the lady of course as well as a nicely done and worded page on a site that they pay for each week. This is not just about election time it's all about election time. Again fellas watch out when "she" becomes mayor. I actually lived a block or so a way from one of the candidates when I was stupid enough to play that downtown game, however he will never win. He tries to go againist the machine, however he will fail IMHO. The "she's" are machine creatures. One will win. Then run for cover in regards to paying for something that women gladly offer and the last time I checked on my favorite site I didn't notice the handcuffs or ball and chain my lady was wearing under her victoria secret and jimmy choo attire! Just me I guess. The hypocrisy is insane.[/QUOTE]Your last sentence says it all and sums it up. "The hypocrisy is insane. " That's it. That is our society right now, right there. And from what I can tell it stay that way for some time in the future. Maybe in the future there will be some sanity and reason. For now it's best to be real careful and get ready for things to get worse.

[QUOTE=GeorgeStark;4140818]Yeah but while the article says "Every Friday night, Shotwell Street in San Francisco's Mission District is lined with prostitutes and their pimps" - the Streetwalker Reports thread for San Francisco is utterly, utterly dead. So I'm not sure what that means.[/QUOTE]In the old days, the Fillmore was loaded with black talent. The Tenderloin was primarily white, and the Mission was always Hispanic. The Fillmore has gone upscale, and the Tenderloin has lost its style.

16th / Mission / Shotwell has been mostly dead for years. The only good Bay Area stroll now is Inty Blvd in Oakland.

[QUOTE=ReadyForRub;4143311]In the old days, the Fillmore was loaded with black talent. The Tenderloin was primarily white, and the Mission was always Hispanic. The Fillmore has gone upscale, and the Tenderloin has lost its style.[/QUOTE]

Just read this. Hmm make me wonder did he tip standard rate or did he just drops hundreds.

[URL]https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.tcpalm.com/amp/2939429002[/URL]

[QUOTE=PghTraveler;4145034]16th / Mission / Shotwell has been mostly dead for years. The only good Bay Area stroll now is Inty Blvd in Oakland.[/QUOTE]I just checked out the Oakland board. Wow, looks yummy. Orlando is closer, though.

[QUOTE=OrdLover;4163628]Just read this. Hmm make me wonder did he tip standard rate or did he just drops hundreds.

[URL]https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.tcpalm.com/amp/2939429002[/URL][/QUOTE]Adam Shefter said that, according to sources, "Kraft isn't even the most famous person accused. This story is going to heat up even further." I can't believe they arrested customers going to a massage parlor instead of just going after the owners. Florida has had some pretty violent crimes. This country is beyond absurd with their priorities of "dangerous criminals". Total money grab imo.

[QUOTE=Kellster;4164367]Adam Shefter said that, according to sources, "Kraft isn't even the most famous person accused. This story is going to heat up even further." I can't believe they arrested customers going to a massage parlor instead of just going after the owners. Florida has had some pretty violent crimes. This country is beyond absurd with their priorities of "dangerous criminals". Total money grab imo.[/QUOTE]I read LE had been investigating for months, and had cameras in the rooms.

[QUOTE=Kellster;4164367]Adam Shefter said that, according to sources, "Kraft isn't even the most famous person accused. This story is going to heat up even further." I can't believe they arrested customers going to a massage parlor instead of just going after the owners. Florida has had some pretty violent crimes. This country is beyond absurd with their priorities of "dangerous criminals". Total money grab imo.[/QUOTE]I read from our brothers on the Boston boards that the cops charged in to the spas, claiming there was a bomb threat. Everybody cleared out so they could search. While everyone is out, put the cameras in hidden spots. Clever, huh? I guess cops are allowed to yell Fire in a crowded theater, as long as it serves the greater good of preventing L1 from going on.

How did they find these other Johns? Credit card receipts?

[QUOTE=ApplePiePussy;4164532]How did they find these other Johns? Credit card receipts?[/QUOTE]I'm down here right now in this general area. One local news channel reported that the cops staked out one particular spa for 6 days and saw 97 guys go in and out. I'm guessing they ran their license plates. As of now, this is just a guess. They also reported that the cops did something called a "trash pull" and found a spreadsheet of financial records. They may have gotten credit card info from these records. On the early evening news, they showed all the mugshots with names and dates of birth. They also put a tracking device on the vehicle of one of the owners.

I just heard some stupid ***** on the TV say that 80% of prostitution involves human-trafficking! These cunts have no shame!

[QUOTE=GeorgeStark;4164602]I just heard some stupid ***** on the TV say that 80% of prostitution involves human-trafficking! These cunts have no shame![/QUOTE]I agree with you G. S. They're playing that same angle down here.

I'm hearing there could be as many as 250 guys arrested when this all shakes out in the next few days. I feel for those guys. It could just as easily be any of us.

[QUOTE=KarnEvil9;4164623]I agree with you G. S. They're playing that same angle down here.

I'm hearing there could be as many as 250 guys arrested when this all shakes out in the next few days. I feel for those guys. It could just as easily be any of us.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't be shocked if Tiger Woods is one of them. He's got a place nearby. Makes no difference though- whether someone is famous or unknown- this is crap!

[QUOTE=GeorgeStark;4164602]I just heard some stupid ***** on the TV say that 80% of prostitution involves human-trafficking! These cunts have no shame![/QUOTE]And very much to the point and I for one totally agree! Keep in mind these pretty people on tv are just reading a teleprompter. They have their jobs because they are wiling to push the agendas of their network. Which of course is extremely liberal. The old saying if it bleeds it leads is relevant here in that the human trafficking angle has to be there to justify why this is even a story. The guy was and is high profile. He will remain so. Our current president was involved in certain situations, however had the foresight to offer hush money. We are indeed living in a society of what I like to call the neutered male. Any time the main stream media gets an opportunity to shed light on that they do it. This incident is just another example. Bad old guy! A pervert football franchise owner! Cops good this time! Human trafficking has been rescued!

We got mentioned in this article.

[URL]https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/02/24/sex-trafficking-225203[/URL]

Our best hope is that Kraft takes a page out of the playbook of Bezos. When the Enquirer tried to shame Bezos into silence, his reaction was "You're not coming for me, mothafugga. I'm coming for you! It was epic!

Hopefully Kraft doesn't tuck tail and hide. Kraft is the right person and this is the right time for major legislative reform to decriminalize prostitution. He's wealthy, he's powerful, he's widowed / single, and he clearly is on the side of sanity. He's also older so hopefully he is more interested in doing what is right than what the old ladies at the country club think about him.

One more point.

There are TONS of undocumented women who are working for cleaning companies. They are working 12-14 hour days doing unsanitary, hard, disgusting work for below minimum wage. Where are the news articles about these women? But if that same woman earns a days salary in a 30 minutes by giving an old guy a massage, it is an OUTRAGE! It is vitally important to get that poor woman back cleaning toilets for 14 hours a day and barely being able to feed her kids, right? Either that or deport her back to her country so she and her kids can live in abject poverty for the rest of their lives. Dumb.

[QUOTE=JumpSmoker90;4167265]We got mentioned in this article.

[URL]https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/02/24/sex-trafficking-225203[/URL][/QUOTE]

[URL]https://www.google.com/amp/s/patch.com/illinois/wheaton/amp/27943716/wheaton-photography-studio-front-escort-services-lawsuit[/URL]

Don't think we have a board for Wheaton or DuPage county but I may be wrong. Who knows about this place?

[QUOTE=PeterWanger69;4175880][URL]https://www.google.com/amp/s/patch.com/illinois/wheaton/amp/27943716/wheaton-photography-studio-front-escort-services-lawsuit[/URL]

Don't think we have a board for Wheaton or DuPage county but I may be wrong. Who knows about this place?[/QUOTE]That sounds like a North Avenue Clip Joint (aka Ripoff joint). The places on both North Ave and Lake Street have a long reputation for being rip off joints Their business plan is to hit the customer with upsells after you walk in the door promising the world, but after you pay always failing to deliver. (check out the rip off alerts forum on this site). If any customer complained there were big goons more than willing to handle any complaints. I'm surprised the powers that be actually went after them. They've been protected by them forever (probably were given a financial incentive to look the other way) despite literally no one wanting them here. The only goal of those places was to get as many pigeons as they could in the door and take as much money from them as they could. Good riddance.

[QUOTE=Kellster;4175965]That sounds like a North Avenue Clip Joint (aka Ripoff joint). The places on both North Ave and Lake Street have a long reputation for being rip off joints Their business plan is to hit the customer with upsells after you walk in the door promising the world, but after you pay always failing to deliver. (check out the rip off alerts forum on this site). If any customer complained there were big goons more than willing to handle any complaints. I'm surprised the powers that be actually went after them. They've been protected by them forever (probably were given a financial incentive to look the other way) despite literally no one wanting them here. The only goal of those places was to get as many pigeons as they could in the door and take as much money from them as they could. Good riddance.[/QUOTE]Interesting. On the news last night they interviewed the next door dance studio owner who said that the other day her students were leaving and there was a "screamer" next door so it was pretty obvious what was going on in there.

I warned everyone about this specific place a few months ago under general topics. She was pretty convincing sending me a picture with 3 fingers up. My past experience of getting ripped off in Roselle (lake street) stopped me from going into this place. They chose their location poorly and I'm glad.

Interesting read provided by Mustang3 from Orange County Massage forum posted:

[URL]https://reason.com/blog/2019/03/04/sneak-and-peek-warrant-for-florida-sting/amp[/URL]

[URL]https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/federal-complaint-implicates-harvey-mayor-eric-kellogg-strip-club-shakedown/?utm_campaign=ChicagoSunTimes&utm_content=1551929400&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR2fFfMmkMv3QXrRk-otCT6LKQcPBoDSci8gY5F_lyXJ8EsUw7NJRuyljSc[/URL]

[QUOTE=Dudder;4182138][URL]https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/federal-complaint-implicates-harvey-mayor-eric-kellogg-strip-club-shakedown/?utm_campaign=ChicagoSunTimes&utm_content=1551929400&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR2fFfMmkMv3QXrRk-otCT6LKQcPBoDSci8gY5F_lyXJ8EsUw7NJRuyljSc[/URL][/QUOTE]Arnies and Club O paying bribes to Harvey city officials?! Big surprise!

[URL]https://www.saukvalley.com/2019/04/18/gonorrhea-cases-up-dramatically/a9a5vys/?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark[/URL]

[QUOTE=KarnEvil9;4164578]I'm down here right now in this general area. One local news channel reported that the cops staked out one particular spa for 6 days and saw 97 guys go in and out. I'm guessing they ran their license plates. As of now, this is just a guess. They also reported that the cops did something called a "trash pull" and found a spreadsheet of financial records. They may have gotten credit card info from these records. On the early evening news, they showed all the mugshots with names and dates of birth. They also put a tracking device on the vehicle of one of the owners.[/QUOTE]I read they stopped all of the guys exiting the spa and asked for their driver's license. They asked for Kraft's even though he was not driving. He could have refused.

The prosecution is not doing so well. No human trafficking was found. They even arrested the girls working there which tells you they were not forced to be there. This is a botched operation and Kraft will most likely go free. Remember, the police got the warrants to place the cameras on premise based on information they said they had that human trafficking was there. They did not have evidence and went to a Judge and got the warrant (sounds like a different Court situation named FISA. I digress). And they had reports of the Video leaking. It could only come from the Prosecutor's office. I bet you anything all charges will be dropped. The Prosecutor may be in trouble with the Court because of the leak.

News from the sunshine state. The good news is that a judge isn't allowing the video footage from the sting which ensnared the Patriots owner, among others. It's always a little comforting when the judicial system sides with liberty and privacy.

[URL]https://reason.com/2019/05/03/massage-parlor-surveillance-videos-cant-be-used-in-court-says-florida-judge-reason-roundup/[/URL]

The bad news is that Florida is taking the trafficking charade to a horrible new low where they want to make a registry of patrons caught up in stings. We need to fight back!

[URL]https://reason.com/2019/05/09/florida-is-creating-a-new-sex-offender-registry-just-for-prostitution-customers/a[/URL]

[QUOTE=Zeuss;4269970]News from the sunshine state. The good news is that a judge isn't allowing the video footage from the sting which ensnared the Patriots owner, among others. It's always a little comforting when the judicial system sides with liberty and privacy.

[URL]https://reason.com/2019/05/03/massage-parlor-surveillance-videos-cant-be-used-in-court-says-florida-judge-reason-roundup/[/URL]

The bad news is that Florida is taking the trafficking charade to a horrible new low where they want to make a registry of patrons caught up in stings. We need to fight back!

[URL]https://reason.com/2019/05/09/florida-is-creating-a-new-sex-offender-registry-just-for-prostitution-customers/a[/URL][/QUOTE]This link works for the 2nd part. It's pretty ridiculous how crooked these politicians are. That state has a lot worse crimes to worry about.

[URL]https://reason.com/2019/05/09/florida-is-creating-a-new-sex-offender-registry-just-for-prostitution-customers/[/URL]

[QUOTE=DomCorazon;4277013]https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/crime/crime-and-courts/2019/05/02/ex-miami-university-professor-pleads-prostitution-case/3654894002/[/QUOTE]I searched the guy's username and found some more info from A2 in the Kansas forums: [URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3797-General-Reports&p=4191733&viewfull=1#post4191733[/URL].

Tl; dr yes law enforcement monitors this site but unless you're a pedo they in all likelihood don't give a shit.

[QUOTE=DomCorazon;4277013]https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/crime/crime-and-courts/2019/05/02/ex-miami-university-professor-pleads-prostitution-case/3654894002/

copy/paste[/QUOTE]Am I goin bat shit cray cray or was the original link and our comments removed rather quickly with no explanation and not explained for being removed like is the usual procedure. Maybe big bro is really watching or I in my advanced years am starting to see things that aren't there! Thought the posts about this link were pretty interesting maybe too so for uncle or?

Maybe you mongers covered this story already, but did anyone here hit that and get away for less than $5. 8 million?

I might have dropped $200, plus a tip. Guess that's why they make jellybeans different flavors.

[URL]https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-met-financial-fraud-trial-20190514-story.html[/URL]

Two more politicians just got charged in a prostitution sting. The Mayor of Sandwich IL was charged in a prostitution sting along with a member of the Putnam County Public Defenders Office office. Prior to being the Mayor, he had been the Chief of Police in Sandwich for over 16 years.

Just goes to show you what some of these politicians and law enforcement people are really made of. I wonder how many times they used prostitutes and didn't get caught.

[URL]https://abc7chicago.com/mayor-of-sandwich-resigns-after-being-charged-in-prostitution-sting/5298967/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.pjstar.com/news/20190511/reports-putnam-county-public-defender-charged-in-prostitution-sting[/URL]

[QUOTE=Bozack;4277579]Maybe you mongers covered this story already, but did anyone here hit that and get away for less than $5. 8 million?

I might have dropped $200, plus a tip. Guess that's why they make jellybeans different flavors.

[URL]https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-met-financial-fraud-trial-20190514-story.html[/URL][/QUOTE]A nut if you read it. Personally I was close to two situations similar, however not personally involved. Can't get specific on one because she became a well known local name in the judiciary courts! Yep fellas, a state judge!! Anyway the other was the girl I met as a friend who is or was at least 10 years ago a pro. From her over many many four hour long phone conversations at 2 am- Guys will do insane things to sustain these "relationships". We are not hearing something of this story. I did not catch it, however was this dude married? Or a significant other and? Also yea imo it leans more towards he was defrauding his employer and used her as the scapegoat. I am going to follow this case as it appears it will be locally tried.

[QUOTE=AvgJoe;4277935]Two more politicians just got charged in a prostitution sting. The Mayor of Sandwich IL was charged in a prostitution sting along with a member of the Putnam County Public Defenders Office office. Prior to being the Mayor, he had been the Chief of Police in Sandwich for over 16 years.

Just goes to show you what some of these politicians and law enforcement people are really made of. I wonder how many times they used prostitutes and didn't get caught.

[URL]https://abc7chicago.com/mayor-of-sandwich-resigns-after-being-charged-in-prostitution-sting/5298967/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.pjstar.com/news/20190511/reports-putnam-county-public-defender-charged-in-prostitution-sting[/URL][/QUOTE]I was busy posting my response to the fraud guy and now see this! F**king amazing! *ok what did i miss? where's the story? does it say anywhere how this went down? it's got to be a senior moment for me, however i don't see how the dude in sandwich was caught!

[QUOTE=StanleyStankas;4277955]I was busy posting my response to the fraud guy and now see this! F**king amazing! *ok what did i miss? where's the story? does it say anywhere how this went down? it's got to be a senior moment for me, however i don't see how the dude in sandwich was caught![/QUOTE]From the story I heard on ABC News, a task force "turned" several working girls and re-posted new ads for them on a website. Then, they arrested the 9 guys who showed up for appointments. The story didn't say which website. Needless to say the Mayor resigned the other day LOL.

[QUOTE=AvgJoe;4278449]From the story I heard on ABC News, a task force "turned" several working girls and re-posted new ads for them on a website. Then, they arrested the 9 guys who showed up for appointments. The story didn't say which website. Needless to say the Mayor resigned the other day LOL.[/QUOTE]Appreciate that clarification so I will investigate further as I would want to know what was the jurisdiction where these stings went down as well as what uncle it actually was.

This Tuesday at 10 pm. "Sex Trafficking In America".

Just a heads up for anyone who's interested.

[QUOTE=Himes;4291847]This Tuesday at 10 pm. "Sex Trafficking In America".

Just a heads up for anyone who's interested.[/QUOTE]Thanks, but I'm long past my quota of bullshit on that topic. The "numbers" and "statistics" these fuckers use are amazing.

[QUOTE=Himes;4291847]This Tuesday at 10 pm. "Sex Trafficking In America".

Just a heads up for anyone who's interested.[/QUOTE]This I need to see considering pbs is so liberal. I hope they show all sides of the industry and not just "johns are perverted controlling people and all prostitutes are shackled poor women that are enslaved by their masters". I want to see the girls that are shopping on michigan avenue living in beautiful condos and making 10 k a week as well. Keep it fair! All imo of course, however I will make it a point to watch the report.

[QUOTE=StanleyStankas;4292119]This I need to see considering pbs is so liberal. I hope they show all sides of the industry and not just "johns are perverted controlling people and all prostitutes are shackled poor women that are enslaved by their masters". I want to see the girls that are shopping on michigan avenue living in beautiful condos and making 10 k a week as well. Keep it fair! All imo of course, however I will make it a point to watch the report.[/QUOTE]For obvious reasons I don't discuss the topic with other people but the overwhelming public opinion of people who had never tried the hobby is exactly that escorts and poor abused, pimped out women and the Johns are a bunch of guys who pay for sex because they can't get it "the normal way". I made the mistake once to comment on line that the vast majority of prostitutes in the developed countries excluding the junkies are doing it voluntarily and consensually and was ripped to pieces by angry women who "felt terrible for the poor women forced to have sex for money ".