Philly Sugar

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5308749]You & me bro!

Must be the same reason why pay porn sites still keep going. Someone is paying the fare, in spite plenty of porn available for free.

Is it the chickafied dudes that were created in the 'participation trophy' generation.[/QUOTE]There are a lot of people who don't see the cost as prohibitive to have the content they want in one spot, say a guy who makes 500 K+ a year isn't going to scoff at 50 bucks a month. Then there are the guys who get obsessed with a specific girl or type. Guys who get off on paying as part of their porn / sex. There are also rumors of sites like OF and such being used as a means to launder money from other off the books enterprises or to pay off models / individuals so its been taxed and clean similar to child stars who were abused and suddenly getting a huge payday role in a crap movie after being out of the industry for a decade or more (like Bill from Bill & Ted).

Was seeing Rose for a couple months. She is a drama queens, very unreliable and will hit you up with every emergency possible. Got a call from her dad accusing me of giving her dope to sleep with her and she ended up getting sent to rehab, so that explains the crazy. Whole family is nuts.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/18fb3512-b631-4e01-be67-57a0b5284a89[/URL]

As a guy who does make close to that figure, I certainly scoff at something that I have to pay for that is readily available for free no matter what the cost. If it's free, it's for me. A more compelling theory is the money laundering one that makes a ton more sense and never crossed my mind.

To each his own I guess.

Be Safe.

[QUOTE=WookieWonka;5309079]There are a lot of people who don't see the cost as prohibitive to have the content they want in one spot, say a guy who makes 500 K+ a year isn't going to scoff at 50 bucks a month. Then there are the guys who get obsessed with a specific girl or type. Guys who get off on paying as part of their porn / sex. There are also rumors of sites like OF and such being used as a means to launder money from other off the books enterprises or to pay off models / individuals so its been taxed and clean similar to child stars who were abused and suddenly getting a huge payday role in a crap movie after being out of the industry for a decade or more (like Bill from Bill & Ted).[/QUOTE]

Here's another to add to the SA members trying to leverage more only fans subscribers. What a colossal waste of time.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/390d7d45-13f1-46eb-8a01-f5c8a2fd269b[/URL]

Www. Only [URL]fans.com[/URL]/ alexiababby.

SA bans a guy in a second for any nonsense, they ought to treat the women the same, just IMHO.

[QUOTE=JTerry26;5236453]Anyone seen her (Maggie)? Just moved to texts.

https://www.seeking.com/member/8ccc3209-ff8d-44da-a095-8dfa4da317a1[/QUOTE]Went back and forth a few times with her. Would never commit to a time and then hinted I wouldn't even be getting a hour for 4 bills so we mutually decided we weren't right for each other.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4a1bf21c-848f-43b4-9250-5c57db69c695[/URL]

Not sure if she deactivated or just blocked me.

Saw her twice in Jan / Feb. Thought everything went good. Had another meeting set up and she ghosted me.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/02d6b8e3-b743-47c8-a4ed-b139c818a3d2[/URL]

Met this one once. Hard to set up with and she cancelled a few times. Shorted time as she claimed to have class and was very late. Was ok. I had to cancel our 2nd meet and she told me to lose her number so I did.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9be60ebb-600d-45e6-b171-b6541bb425cf[/URL]

Met this one last summer for a drink. To each his own, by I was put off by her hairy pits. Believe she wanted 5 bills for a meeting and we had different ideas on how an arrangement would be so we mutually passed.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c010ddfd-2850-45a5-b3db-49964aeb4e72[/URL]

Had a meeting set up with this one last summer and she vanished.

Its dudes with the white knight syndrome that think if they buy enough content and chat girls up enough on there somehow the women will fall for them. And of course the girls on there know how to bait the suckers and encourage them to spend money on a non existent virtual relationship.

[QUOTE=BurbsMonger;5310739]As a guy who does make close to that figure, I certainly scoff at something that I have to pay for that is readily available for free no matter what the cost. If it's free, it's for me. A more compelling theory is the money laundering one that makes a ton more sense and never crossed my mind.

To each his own I guess.

Be Safe.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bgsaysftp;5311743][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4a1bf21c-848f-43b4-9250-5c57db69c695[/URL]

Not sure if she deactivated or just blocked me.

Saw her twice in Jan / Feb. Thought everything went good. Had another meeting set up and she ghosted me.[/QUOTE]I had a date set up with that one too, then ghosted me. Weird why they do that. How was she when you did get to see her?

[QUOTE=NJGuy609;5314549]I had a date set up with that one too, then ghosted me. Weird why they do that. How was she when you did get to see her?[/QUOTE]Amazing. Very late showing up but amazing.

I'm Considering paying the 90 to message some of these girls. A lot of them say " passport ready " and say they want to travel. This is what I am looking for A girl to travel with me and have some fun during the trips. Problem is most of the girls on SA that I see in the Philly area look like addicts / drama / Trouble (I'm a good judge of this) I've only seen 1 or 2 on the site who I would really be interested in and they could be scams for all I know. Am I barking up the wrong tree with this idea. ?

[QUOTE=Jj1265;5319193]I'm Considering paying the 90 to message some of these girls. A lot of them say " passport ready " and say they want to travel. This is what I am looking for A girl to travel with me and have some fun during the trips. Problem is most of the girls on SA that I see in the Philly area look like addicts / drama / Trouble (I'm a good judge of this) I've only seen 1 or 2 on the site who I would really be interested in and they could be scams for all I know. Am I barking up the wrong tree with this idea. ?[/QUOTE]If you find a girl that is not either a scam or drug addict then go for it (since my age rang is 18-24 and slim, it did took me 2 month to find the the right girl) I have taken my sugar baby on 2 vacations far and plan on going to another. But of course I have been with her about month before I ask her. This maybe just me but I need to know them before taking them on a trip. Note: the sex was amazing during the vacation, we even did it in public when no one was watching.

I would recommend against doing this until you have truly vetted them and have established a pretty consistent routine with the lady where trust, honesty, and mutual respect are in place. I am currently with my SB for almost 2 years and it took me 18 months before I invited her to my shore house in NJ and my place in the Caribbean. 90% of these girls disappear after a few months for various reasons so it may take some time as I have been in this game for like 10 years and have only found 1 worth taking on vacation with me.

Good luck and Be Safe.

[QUOTE=Jj1265;5319193]I'm Considering paying the 90 to message some of these girls. A lot of them say " passport ready " and say they want to travel. This is what I am looking for A girl to travel with me and have some fun during the trips. Problem is most of the girls on SA that I see in the Philly area look like addicts / drama / Trouble (I'm a good judge of this) I've only seen 1 or 2 on the site who I would really be interested in and they could be scams for all I know. Am I barking up the wrong tree with this idea. ?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jj1265;5319193]I'm Considering paying the 90 to message some of these girls. A lot of them say " passport ready " and say they want to travel. This is what I am looking for A girl to travel with me and have some fun during the trips. Problem is most of the girls on SA that I see in the Philly area look like addicts / drama / Trouble (I'm a good judge of this) I've only seen 1 or 2 on the site who I would really be interested in and they could be scams for all I know. Am I barking up the wrong tree with this idea. ?[/QUOTE]As others have said, I would wait a considerable amount of time before taking one of these girls with me on vacation. You have to spend some time with them prior, to see how dependable they are, how trustworthy, and if you are even interested in spending that much time with them. It's tough enough at times, to travel with one's partner in a regular relationship- just imagine how much tougher it would be to do that with a total stranger.

Keep in mind they'll also know your real name and other info about you, if you travel, which is not something I"m comfortable with, until spending a LOT of time with someone- if ever, for a SB. You also have to think about a contingency plan if they are a no show on travel day, as well as a contingency plan if things go crazy sideways on you during a trip.

I've taken one on my a trip with me, but that was after a lot of time getting to know them, and this was not off of SA. That place is just full of less than ideal types nowadays.

[QUOTE=BurbsMonger;5319970]I would recommend against doing this until you have truly vetted them and have established a pretty consistent routine with the lady where trust, honesty, and mutual respect are in place. I am currently with my SB for almost 2 years and it took me 18 months before I invited her to my shore house in NJ and my place in the Caribbean. 90% of these girls disappear after a few months for various reasons so it may take some time as I have been in this game for like 10 years and have only found 1 worth taking on vacation with me.

Good luck and Be Safe.[/QUOTE]Fully agree. I've done this SA thing for nearly 10 years but no way, no how was I ready for travel as a newbie. Maybe after a couple meetings. Maybe. Have my atf that I just love for years but even then, at the end of 48 hours I'm glad to see us depart ways. There are several logistical hurdles to go through wrt ticketing that make this difficult until trust is developed. Good luck.

That all said.... I do have a bucket list item to fly one out for a first time meeting lol

[QUOTE=RandomGai;5319879]If you find a girl that is not either a scam or drug addict then go for it (since my age rang is 18-24 and slim, it did took me 2 month to find the the right girl) I have taken my sugar baby on 2 vacations far and plan on going to another. But of course I have been with her about month before I ask her. This maybe just me but I need to know them before taking them on a trip. Note: the sex was amazing during the vacation, we even did it in public when no one was watching.[/QUOTE]I traveled a bit with my previous SB (overnight to 5 days), 4 trips total and a bunch of overnights at my house when the family was away. All in all it was great but it was on one of the trips I found out about her drug use. That got rough. But again, some of the bests ex I've ever had was on the last trip we took together.

With my new SB (definitely DDF) I've had her over a few times and we've done 2 overnights (travel < 1 hour, so local). Both were fantastic. Before I'd travel I'd make sure you're compatible, ie you enjoy each other's company outside of the sex (even with a lot of sex there's lots of other time), that she's truly DDF and have a frank conversation about expectations around the sex, payment, time together / apart and other possible activities. And you can do things like have sex 4 x in 24 hours.

So driving through NC, took a peek a the forums there, and found this gem by a proud monger taking about an SB on SA.

[B]I also purchased her pics and videos bundle on snap so that is a nice appetiser the night before. It was 40 for the bundle.[/B]

So for those wondering who is dumb enough to pay for pics and videos. There you have it.

Yes, I know many will say, is just 40 bucks, who cares. But the more others buys, the less these women are eager to actually physically meet.

Doom on!

This is even crazier as he purchased through snap, where they all disappear unless he screenshotted them and she would know that. Although I never purchase pics or videos, I am starting to engage with these girls to tell them I will buy their pics and vids if I can be the photographer. Some nibbles but no one has agreed to that yet.

SA just really sucks right now unless you want to fall into the GPS and pay 700 and up.

Be Safe.

[QUOTE=Kingmaletx;5323103]So driving through NC, took a peek a the forums there, and found this gem by a proud monger taking about an SB on SA.

[B]I also purchased her pics and videos bundle on snap so that is a nice appetiser the night before. It was 40 for the bundle.[/B]

So for those wondering who is dumb enough to pay for pics and videos. There you have it.

Yes, I know many will say, is just 40 bucks, who cares. But the more others buys, the less these women are eager to actually physically meet.

Doom on![/QUOTE]

Another one with the send me money so I can buy my kid food. Calls herself the duchess.

[QUOTE=BurbsMonger;5324921]This is even crazier as he purchased through snap, where they all disappear unless he screenshotted them and she would know that. Although I never purchase pics or videos, I am starting to engage with these girls to tell them I will buy their pics and vids if I can be the photographer. Some nibbles but no one has agreed to that yet.

SA just really sucks right now unless you want to fall into the GPS and pay 700 and up.

Be Safe.[/QUOTE]When girls pull out these ridiculous allowances, because other guys have paid it, I say, you were very lucky to have that experience. This is not that arrangement and I'm not going to feel obligated to give that. I do not negotiate, because the girl will start to try and hustle for extra as soon as she starts sleeping with you.

[QUOTE=OverKill418;5326137]When girls pull out these ridiculous allowances, because other guys have paid it, I say, you were very lucky to have that experience. This is not that arrangement and I'm not going to feel obligated to give that. I do not negotiate, because the girl will start to try and hustle for extra as soon as she starts sleeping with you.[/QUOTE]Keep in mind most of them are lying or only received this type of money short term. Also, the newbs don't understand the market and therefore throw out ridiculous numbers without research or believe what some Facebook, YouTube video tells them.

I haven't used SA in awhile, but I've given up on finding any girls under 25 as they all want to sell pics or are scammers. There are lots of ladies and single moms in the 30-40 range which are somehat normal and don't have bs drama but it kind of defeats the purpose of a sugar baby you know. The site is a former shell of itself with price increases and lots of ladies asking tons of $ for coffee meets. When I first used SA back in 2014 or so it was $39 a month

Going to sign up again in June to see what I can get but I'm not going in there with high hopes. Its like this ALL over the country too.

[QUOTE=LolBoat;5329171]I haven't used SA in awhile, but I've given up on finding any girls under 25 as they all want to sell pics or are scammers. There are lots of ladies and single moms in the 30-40 range which are somehat normal and don't have bs drama but it kind of defeats the purpose of a sugar baby you know. The site is a former shell of itself with price increases and lots of ladies asking tons of $ for coffee meets. When I first used SA back in 2014 or so it was $39 a month

Going to sign up again in June to see what I can get but I'm not going in there with high hopes. Its like this ALL over the country too.[/QUOTE]It's a combination of a few things happening at once.

1. The Covid has added drama and an excuse for many to avoid encounters.

2. SA and the like is known by lots of coeds to con older guys into paying for things and going on platonic dates.

3. The number of scammers increased.

4. There are a few authentic nymphomanics but they are a diamond in the rough. Only met a couple.

Met an extremely cute 23-year-old we were all ready to meet up at the last minute she asked about allowance I gave her my number she said she did not sleep with anybody for at least $600 because that's what she always gets I was like oh well you are very lucky good luck I didn't hear from her again she said she deserved that because she was an Instagram model I'm like really any pretty girl could be an Instagram model doesn't make you special let me know when you get side by the Ford agency especially when you're five foot one.

[QUOTE=OverKill418;5329982]Met an extremely cute 23-year-old we were all ready to meet up at the last minute she asked about allowance I gave her my number she said she did not sleep with anybody for at least $600 because that's what she always gets I was like oh well you are very lucky good luck I didn't hear from her again she said she deserved that because she was an Instagram model I'm like really any pretty girl could be an Instagram model doesn't make you special let me know when you get side by the Ford agency especially when you're five foot one.[/QUOTE]LOL, OF is ruining this sport man.

There is an older crowd out there paying this much so I guess these girls just say fuggit and go for it. I'm in my early 30's and started doing this about 6-7 years ago and my whole strategy was literally just being younger / normal and not saying anything too weird. It isn't working anymore.

I've found. The summer to be a weird time to score the college SBs, a lot are back home with mommy and daddy, might be working summer job too. Also partying with their friends from home / HS so banging old HS friends and not as interested in a SD. September is a better month as they moved back to college in late August and need spending cash for books / living expenses / bar tabs, etc. (January / February can be good too when their Christmas bills come due—December is tough before the holidays because they aren't around, but could score some looking for money to get Christmas gifts).

Just some things I've noticed over the years.

[QUOTE=LolBoat;5329171]I haven't used SA in awhile, but I've given up on finding any girls under 25 as they all want to sell pics or are scammers. There are lots of ladies and single moms in the 30-40 range which are somehat normal and don't have bs drama but it kind of defeats the purpose of a sugar baby you know. The site is a former shell of itself with price increases and lots of ladies asking tons of $ for coffee meets. When I first used SA back in 2014 or so it was $39 a month

Going to sign up again in June to see what I can get but I'm not going in there with high hopes. Its like this ALL over the country too.[/QUOTE]

Had a good one on the hook but she found someone who just doubled what I was giving her. We'll see what happens. My guess is he will hit it a few times and then drop her and she'll be back. Have had that happen many times before. Seems a lot of guys get competitive and will do that to beat a guy out and get what he wants only to get bored and drop her when he finds the next score.

Definitely not as much fun this time around on SA. Was on for April and met 6 and scored 4. Used to be able to do better but half the girls or more are scammers for pictures. Not really sure where to look for talent these days.

Fellow Mongers,

Anyone have any intel on this one? [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/22e0142c-219b-421d-aacd-a7e39a760981[/URL].

She wants 400 but appears to be negotiable. Everything but Greek, but no car because of an accident last week. Not sure if I am going to pull the trigger, but I am talking to her offline.

Thanks Be Safe.

[QUOTE=BurbsMonger;5334926]Fellow Mongers,

Anyone have any intel on this one? [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/22e0142c-219b-421d-aacd-a7e39a760981[/URL].

She wants 400 but appears to be negotiable. Everything but Greek, but no car because of an accident last week. Not sure if I am going to pull the trigger, but I am talking to her offline.

Thanks Be Safe.[/QUOTE]Saw her a while back before she went to rehab. Dead fish with a Nasty attitude to match. I'd save your money and time.

[QUOTE=BurbsMonger;5334926]Fellow Mongers,

Anyone have any intel on this one? [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/22e0142c-219b-421d-aacd-a7e39a760981[/URL].

She wants 400 but appears to be negotiable. Everything but Greek, but no car because of an accident last week. Not sure if I am going to pull the trigger, but I am talking to her offline.

Thanks Be Safe.[/QUOTE]These girls seem to be on weekly car accidents!

I was talking to one who said didn't have a car, only to pull the day of the meet, "you will need to cashapp me an uber for my safety" bs.

Thanks, that was my gut but she talked a good game. This is why the board is so valuable.

Be Safe.

[QUOTE=YellowLuvin;5335253]Saw her a while back before she went to rehab. Dead fish with a Nasty attitude to match. I'd save your money and time.[/QUOTE]

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/1048186e-dcdb-4e00-b637-bf0868de6b3d[/URL]

Anyone have any experience with Vanilla Thaii? I've chatted her and she dances at a club locally. Curious if anyone has actually met up with her before.

[QUOTE=Mdterp05;5337911][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/1048186e-dcdb-4e00-b637-bf0868de6b3d[/URL]

Anyone have any experience with Vanilla Thaii? I've chatted her and she dances at a club locally. Curious if anyone has actually met up with her before.[/QUOTE]She's always trying to get me to go to A club in Harrisburg to meet her.

This one was supposed to come over last week and had a last minute"emergency". Today never showed up after confirming yesterday. Same then called and said that she didn't get paid at work and was too stressed to text and cancel. Don't waste your time.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b71bba98-89e8-4f90-b2a8-bb3103ceea8f[/URL]

[QUOTE=OverKill418;5340130]This one was supposed to come over last week and had a last minute"emergency". Today never showed up after confirming yesterday. Same then called and said that she didn't get paid at work and was too stressed to text and cancel. Don't waste your time.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b71bba98-89e8-4f90-b2a8-bb3103ceea8f[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads up, as well as posting a pic, instead of just a link. WAY easier to I'd the person, as the scammer often change / delete their profiles and make new ones.

[QUOTE=TommyArcher;5338159]She's always trying to get me to go to A club in Harrisburg to meet her.[/QUOTE]That is one wide ass. Not buying that.

[QUOTE=Socalcasualguy;5341284]Thanks for the heads up, as well as posting a pic, instead of just a link. WAY easier to I'd the person, as the scammer often change / delete their profiles and make new ones.[/QUOTE]I tried to post screenshots but not right format. Best thing is I tell told her we have sites to share info on scammers and flakes and she said if I did that, it's on me. I'm like, first off, it's your actions that are the issue and so what? Next time at least apologize for wasting my time.

This one wanted to set up a FFM. On way to meet, she cancels and blocks me.

Been talking to these two. Anyone have any intel or experience with either? They both seem to have a bit of a K Ave vibe? Otherwise this site has been pretty dry lately.

EvaFayy.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/8f8ac8a3-94d9-4891-a48b-a0f1da96d2d2[/URL]

Xobarbie.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/daf551a4-4ff7-4ea0-9b6c-6370ea568209[/URL]

[QUOTE=Runner8;5368221]Been talking to these two. Anyone have any intel or experience with either? They both seem to have a bit of a K Ave vibe? Otherwise this site has been pretty dry lately.

EvaFayy.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/8f8ac8a3-94d9-4891-a48b-a0f1da96d2d2[/URL]

Xobarbie.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/daf551a4-4ff7-4ea0-9b6c-6370ea568209[/URL][/QUOTE]Met with evafay once. Good experience but not exceptional. Showed signs of being a user. Was really hard to schedule with.