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[QUOTE=RealBugleboy;5942552]No she makes an exception for me, I am like a special client. I see her during the week to prepay $20 for next date in exchange for kisses, how much we trust each other. Yes she's not the thinnest girl but I still am happy seeing her (and she is much less than 250 lbs). I give her rides too and sometimes act as her driver when shes doing outcall dates with other clients.
Also we did overnight together in my apartment once. I am not seeing any other providers right now (except possibly my old utr Victoria who I potentially knocked up last fall, you remember the story), so Im happy with her as my number 1.

Oh and btw when you call or text her number, you get someone else who answers, you are right - thats not May, that's her friend Jessica your communicating with. Jessica from Mont Pleasant used to be a provider (one of my regulars in fact) but she retired now and now acts as Mays handler Somewhat, thats who answers the phone when you call. This is why I have Mays private number and communicate with her that way instead. As for Jessica, many mongers here said she was a cash grabber with bad reviews, but I never had any issues with her (see post #3858 for Jessica review, back in January 2020). I occasionally see Jessica now still for outcalls to my apartment, despite her being retired and she never robbed me

Both May and Jessica are 100 times better than Jada. Dont see why you like her so much[/QUOTE]I still say BS, I rubbed my finger near s.

Her sweaty pussy and she flipped out saying she never does bare or even allows it. She's a big big girl and I still have fun with Jada. Enjoy buggy.

She also posts under this ad:

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I've seen her. Got a sob story about her ex druggie boyfriend and her struggle with life. I ended up walking out. She is a mess.

[QUOTE=Dnsmp2791;5942136]Fellas,

Any inputs on this one?

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Much appreciated.

Thanks and,

Dnsmp.[/QUOTE]

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Been trying to see her for a while. Stars just haven't aligned. I checked out her * She's really hot but I don't remember seeing any reviews.[/QUOTE]"She's" a complete waste of time, and also super adamant that you send a selfie. She'll ask for that within 45 seconds of texting the number.

Her ad is Dream Girl age- 29 Rensselaer (definitely not 29).

She has another ad none of pictures show anything but fishnets and underwear.

I showed up, got a weird vibe and tried to leave within 3 minutes. Crazy B pulled a gun on me.

[QUOTE=SpaceHobby;5944197]Her ad is Dream Girl age- 29 Rensselaer (definitely not 29).

She has another ad none of pictures show anything but fishnets and underwear.

I showed up, got a weird vibe and tried to leave within 3 minutes. Crazy B pulled a gun on me.[/QUOTE]1st encounter and its with a gun? Was it at her apartment?

Had my first date with Victoria since last year. We made plans Tuesday after work where I picked her up at her place in Albany and then we drove up to go swimming at Saratoga Lake. Had a nice time swimming in the lake, it was 90 degrees, hot enough. We even saw a bald eagle catch a fish and we chatted in the lake, did talk about some "dirty" topics and about our past sex partners (I trash talked some of my former providers to her). After we leave the lake, we drive down to Clifton Park and bought wings at this bar, then we go to my apartment for the main act. After we get settled, we begin kissing, and take each others clothes off, then I caress her boobs and fee her smooth, juicy pussy. We engage in BBFS and after a few minutes, I cip (keep in mind, this is the same girl who claimed she got pregnant by me last November) but she reassured me she can' get pregnant again. Also her body is messed up from her accident, she has titanium plate with screws holding one ankle bone together and another titanium plate holding her pelvis together, this is also for rest of her life too.

After we finished, I drove her back home. We took Central Ave back home and as we drove past Days Inn, we laughed at Lauren and Amanda (I told her the whole story of what they did to me and how they ruined my birthday last year and are mean to me). Will see her again for another date. I am still seeing May also for dates, in fact I introduced the two to each other last night (ironically both of them needed a ride from me because they were both stranded in different areas at the same time, so I ended up having both of them in my car at once, not for a car date, just a ride and I introduced them to each other. Although I did kiss both of them on the lips last night while helping them out).

[QUOTE=SpaceHobby;5944197]Her ad is Dream Girl age- 29 Rensselaer (definitely not 29).

She has another ad none of pictures show anything but fishnets and underwear.

I showed up, got a weird vibe and tried to leave within 3 minutes. Crazy B pulled a gun on me.[/QUOTE]Fishnet holster? Be safe.

[QUOTE=SpaceHobby;5944197]Her ad is Dream Girl age- 29 Rensselaer (definitely not 29).

She has another ad none of pictures show anything but fishnets and underwear.

I showed up, got a weird vibe and tried to leave within 3 minutes. Crazy B pulled a gun on me.[/QUOTE]Link? Haven't seen ads recently, but was I believe couple women work out of residence in rensselaer in neighborhood just off lower route 20 terrible reviews and ripoffs. Since they would change ad pics and phone nbrs in ads, had to be careful to avoid. I just won't respond on anything residence in Rensselaer unless good review from someone reputable here.

I'm going to be in Albany tomorrow. Noticed this ad but didn't recognize it from before. Anyone tried it yet? If not then maybe I'll toftt.

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[QUOTE=AllAboutAmps;5947751]I'm going to be in Albany tomorrow. Noticed this ad but didn't recognize it from before. Anyone tried it yet? If not then maybe I'll toftt.

[URL]https://albany.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/518-333-5325-red-hot-vixen-wil/380074578702[/URL][/QUOTE]She's part of a private "club". Lots of bucks before you will see any action if any. Hammer.

[QUOTE=AllAboutAmps;5947751]I'm going to be in Albany tomorrow. Noticed this ad but didn't recognize it from before. Anyone tried it yet? If not then maybe I'll toftt.

[URL]https://albany.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/518-333-5325-red-hot-vixen-wil/380074578702[/URL][/QUOTE]Haven't seen her myself but has been discussed here before. She is with Luxe Spa which is considered big ripoff. Pay a lot to enter "spa" and if she even there is big upsell from there. Do search on Luxe you should find more complete discussion.

I believe Spacehobby is talking about:

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Which I appreciate his input and taking one for the team- I'm always interested in spinner types, but now know to stay far away.

[QUOTE=Tomb8871;5947558]Link? Haven't seen ads recently, but was I believe couple women work out of residence in rensselaer in neighborhood just off lower route 20 terrible reviews and ripoffs. Since they would change ad pics and phone nbrs in ads, had to be careful to avoid. I just won't respond on anything residence in Rensselaer unless good review from someone reputable here.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hammer50;5947768]She's part of a private "club". Lots of bucks before you will see any action if any. Hammer.[/QUOTE]I got so lucky with her years ago. She's was very pleasant but she's now way up charging so I'm passing.

First- thanks to those that gave info.

The good.

I called and she gave me quote as an independent. (No indication of a club).

The bad.

She's still asking for high end donations. Too rich for my blood so you went elsewhere.

[QUOTE=Giovanotti;5949218]I got so lucky with her years ago. She's was very pleasant but she's now way up charging so I'm passing.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AllAboutAmps;5949383]First- thanks to those that gave info.

The good.

I called and she gave me quote as an independent. (No indication of a club).

The bad.

She's still asking for high end donations. Too rich for my blood so you went elsewhere.[/QUOTE]How high was the donation?

She was looking for $3.

[QUOTE=DunKin9;5949462]How high was the donation?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AllAboutAmps;5949473]She was looking for $3.[/QUOTE]Key also is to ask what services included. I seem to recall other guys had problems with "add-ons."

After reading a stellar review about a duo with Rebecca and Erica on the other site I decided to give the expensive Brazilians one more try. Even though I said it wasn't worth it the first time around. Well, it wasn't worth it the second time around either.

All these Brazilians are gorgeous, Rebecca included. She's 5'3", 115-120, spinner hot. She doesn't speak the best English but got by well enough. I started with asking about restrictions. She said no Greek play. Ok. But just like Natasha, Rebecca doesn't allow much roaming, no fiv, said no to daty because she didn't like it (her words), I talked her into it but she was non reactive. She didn't really want to kiss either. So, like before, if you want to spend $$$$ on a really pretty woman that's clean and respectful but is not all together fired up for whoop, then these Brazilians are a catch. She performed a BBBJ, I've had way better. She didn't like the daty, cfs to completion. Tried to talk her into a 30 min donation but she said no. The hour is yours. But, I can't do what I want so, who cares.

She tried to get me to go a second time but it wasn't really working out because the session was just plain vanilla, not sexy, and boring. These Brazilians are not into it at all! Theyre still better than the trash rats were dealing with currently because theyre hot and dont play games. Youre in no danger either. I just cant justify spending that much for a lack luster session though.

For me this was my last adventure with them. Non reactive play time doesn't really do it for me. I want to rock and roll for my hour especially for that kind of money. If they're not attentive how am I supposed to stand to attention. Lesson learned x's 2. If I want a hot and a wild time I'll head out to central or western NY. When some of those providers visit it's always a wild time. Be well and stay safe out there fellas.

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Honestly, If she looks like that. Has good TCB skills. Is in a decent place. And provides the services listed on her STG page - 3 bills is probably a fair rate in this market. But the key is what Tomb said. What is included for the base price.

[QUOTE=Tomb8871;5949542]Key also is to ask what services included. I seem to recall other guys had problems with "add-ons."[/QUOTE]

Just saw her today for some quick fun. She looks good tiny, great little ass small A cups and a smooth kitty. I've had a lo g up / down working relationship with her but she seems to be in good spirits and in a better place. Good BJ got very into DATY, very wet and vocal. She had an ad up before but the # I have is private for now. And she was actually close to being on time. Had fun for a morning qoody.

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Anyone see her before? Can't seem to find anything. Looks interesting enough.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=NewGuy6977;5950557][URL]https://albany.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/your-italian-princess-is-here/325593337148[/URL]

Anyone see her before? Can't seem to find anything. Looks interesting enough.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]If she lowered her rates, she kinda has that NG look for those that had the chance but 250 hhr is high.

These girls know how tough things are here with the shortage of quality providers. And they intend to take full advantage of the situation-at our expense.

As someone once said - "Women have it made, they have half the money and all the pussy. ".

[QUOTE=JRogue;5951032]These girls know how tough things are here with the shortage of quality providers. And they intend to take full advantage of the situation-at our expense.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Scoot642;5950654]If she lowered her rates, she kinda has that NG look for those that had the chance but 250 hhr is high.[/QUOTE]Pricy to wear it's in a category called "stupid! Cause nobody is paying that much for half. This is exactly the problem with certain providers!! I don't care if you're Jesus's daughter, never will I pay that much for some hhr! Providers who over price usually are crap! So be aware of that.

[QUOTE=JRogue;5951032]These girls know how tough things are here with the shortage of quality providers. And they intend to take full advantage of the situation-at our expense.[/QUOTE]It's not their fault at all. They have always tried to get the most. We never let them so they had to keep the prices down and the quality up. Blame your fellow mongers. Blame the stupid mongers who pay these rates. Blame the dumb mongers who will pay a lot for some girl to flash a boob and maybe get a covered HJ and he walks always thinking he did good.

There aren't less quality girls out there who are hooked on drugs and need money. There are just less quality girls out there now who have to do actual meet ups. That's not their fault. It is the monger next to you who will pay a monthly fee to be a member of their OF page. It is the idiot who buys content when there are millions of free movies and pics online. It's the dummies who fall for scams. With all that why should a girl do meetups anymore at a competitive rate?

It's not like we couldn't change this in a very short time. If every monger stood their ground at the same time for just a week or even a few days things would change. It isn't like paying high rates for something you need like gas or food or housing that you have little to no control over. These are basically hookers. You can wait them out yet don't. These girls are all addicts and need money. They need you more than you need them. But too many guys don't know how to think with the big head so expect this to continue.

Women have always had the power. But that is the real women. Working girls never had that type of power. They were the lowest of the low. But this new generation of "men" have elevated them. It's why we have what we have now. I hear a lot of complaining about them yet few complain about the real cause of the problem, that fellow monger next to you.

[QUOTE=TailGunner1;5952269]It's not their fault at all. They have always tried to get the most. We never let them so they had to keep the prices down and the quality up. Blame your fellow mongers. Blame the stupid mongers who pay these rates. Blame the dumb mongers who will pay a lot for some girl to flash a boob and maybe get a covered HJ and he walks always thinking he did good.

There aren't less quality girls out there who are hooked on drugs and need money. There are just less quality girls out there now who have to do actual meet ups. That's not their fault. It is the monger next to you who will pay a monthly fee to be a member of their OF page. It is the idiot who buys content when there are millions of free movies and pics online. It's the dummies who fall for scams. With all that why should a girl do meetups anymore at a competitive rate?

It's not like we couldn't change this in a very short time. If every monger stood their ground at the same time for just a week or even a few days things would change. It isn't like paying high rates for something you need like gas or food or housing that you have little to no control over. These are basically hookers. You can wait them out yet don't. These girls are all addicts and need money. They need you more than you need them. But too many guys don't know how to think with the big head so expect this to continue.

Women have always had the power. But that is the real women. Working girls never had that type of power. They were the lowest of the low. But this new generation of "men" have elevated them. It's why we have what we have now. I hear a lot of complaining about them yet few complain about the real cause of the problem, that fellow monger next to you.[/QUOTE]You make a number of good points, but don't think you can generalize with such a complex situation. Markets are supply and demand, which BTW varies a lot by type of woman one talking about. Also, got to realize lots of guys don't realize these boards exist or just don't read them, and simply reply to ads or whatever.

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Can anyone recommend anyone up in / around Kingston?

[QUOTE=TailGunner1;5952269]It's not their fault at all. They have always tried to get the most. We never let them so they had to keep the prices down and the quality up. Blame your fellow mongers. Blame the stupid mongers who pay these rates. Blame the dumb mongers who will pay a lot for some girl to flash a boob and maybe get a covered HJ and he walks always thinking he did good.

There aren't less quality girls out there who are hooked on drugs and need money. There are just less quality girls out there now who have to do actual meet ups. That's not their fault. It is the monger next to you who will pay a monthly fee to be a member of their OF page. It is the idiot who buys content when there are millions of free movies and pics online. It's the dummies who fall for scams. With all that why should a girl do meetups anymore at a competitive rate?

It's not like we couldn't change this in a very short time. If every monger stood their ground at the same time for just a week or even a few days things would change. It isn't like paying high rates for something you need like gas or food or housing that you have little to no control over. These are basically hookers. You can wait them out yet don't. These girls are all addicts and need money. They need you more than you need them. But too many guys don't know how to think with the big head so expect this to continue.

Women have always had the power. But that is the real women. Working girls never had that type of power. They were the lowest of the low. But this new generation of "men" have elevated them. It's why we have what we have now. I hear a lot of complaining about them yet few complain about the real cause of the problem, that fellow monger next to you.[/QUOTE]I have a lot of family financial obligations which make being frugal a necessity.

I could never afford to pay monthly fees for OF or any other page or subscription, I can't pay for online content and settle for whatever is free. I'm too damned suspicious to fall for a scam. And I'd never pay more than I think is reasonable for a date. I don't have a problem passing on someone charging more that I'm willing to pay. Overpaying a hooker could mean that my life essentials don't get paid. Unacceptable. Can't do it-won't do it. I don't want or need it bad enough to neglect my responsibilities.

But then, I look at the hobby as something I do for fun every so often. I'm not invested in it. For some guys, this is neither a hobby or a game-it's a lifestyle. Those are the ones who may tend to overpay without thinking twice about it. What I consider fun and games and a mere "once in a while" temporary distraction is serious business for some other guys.

[QUOTE=Green677;5952889]Can anyone recommend anyone up in / around Kingston?[/QUOTE]You might want to check out the Hudson Valley section of the forums. The guys there will be happy to help you.

Good luck.

[QUOTE=JRogue;5953017]I have a lot of family financial obligations which make being frugal a necessity.

I could never afford to pay monthly fees for OF or any other page or subscription, I can't pay for online content and settle for whatever is free. I'm too damned suspicious to fall for a scam. And I'd never pay more than I think is reasonable for a date. I don't have a problem passing on someone charging more that I'm willing to pay. Overpaying a hooker could mean that my life essentials don't get paid. Unacceptable. Can't do it-won't do it. I don't want or need it bad enough to neglect my responsibilities.

But then, I look at the hobby as something I do for fun every so often. I'm not invested in it. For some guys, this is neither a hobby or a game-it's a lifestyle. Those are the ones who may tend to overpay without thinking twice about it. What I consider fun and games and a mere "once in a while" temporary distraction is serious business for some other guys.[/QUOTE]My brother, I know you aren't the one ruining the hobby. You are a perfect example of the guy whose fun is being ruined by the stupid mongers amongst us.

[QUOTE=TailGunner1;5953216]My brother, I know you aren't the one ruining the hobby. You are a perfect example of the guy whose fun is being ruined by the stupid mongers amongst us.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't go so far as to call them stupid. But there is one thing I am certain of. The hobby (in my opinion) should be no more than a recreational activity-fun and games.

And some of them are taking it entirely too seriously, as though it were life and death.

[QUOTE=Tomb8871;5952480]You make a number of good points, but don't think you can generalize with such a complex situation. Markets are supply and demand, which BTW varies a lot by type of woman one talking about. Also, got to realize lots of guys don't realize these boards exist or just don't read them, and simply reply to ads or whatever.[/QUOTE]I think I pretty much explained exactly why things are the way they are. I don't think I missed anything. I am generally speaking about skip the games girls. That's my zone with the occasional jump into the higher end girls from time to time that just don't play at the stg level. I assume most mongers are like me. But the same applies to the current situation with Eros girls and even streetwalkers. Everything is out of wack because of the stupid mongers amongst us. The dummies are driving it all up and then complain about it. A lot of guys just need to have self control. Don't pay 200 or more for a half with a girl who looks like little more than a streetwalker.

This is very easily fixed if enough people got on board. But they won't. Not these days. They will continue with their stupidity and wonder why things are the way they are.

All that needs to be done is to hit every site like this and say starting on such and such a date this is the max we will pay for whatever with whatever type girl in the Albany area. True not every monger is on a site but I believe enough are to make it work. They did it in NJ 6 or 7 years ago and girls were falling over themselves providing better service for lower rates. This actually happened so it could happen again. But I think the new beta men mongers think this is the norm and some of the vets are so hard up they will miss a mortgage payment to get shitty service.

I don't know what else to say. It isn't the girls fault. It is the mongers. Not all, but enough of them.

I don't play in this area. But why don't those of you who do try what I said NJ did years ago that worked. You have nothing to lose.

Anyone with any info. Nothing in search.

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[QUOTE=TailGunner1;5953229]I think I pretty much explained exactly why things are the way they are. I don't think I missed anything. I am generally speaking about skip the games girls. That's my zone with the occasional jump into the higher end girls from time to time that just don't play at the stg level. I assume most mongers are like me. But the same applies to the current situation with Eros girls and even streetwalkers. Everything is out of wack because of the stupid mongers amongst us. The dummies are driving it all up and then complain about it. A lot of guys just need to have self control. Don't pay 200 or more for a half with a girl who looks like little more than a streetwalker.

This is very easily fixed if enough people got on board. But they won't. Not these days. They will continue with their stupidity and wonder why things are the way they are.

All that needs to be done is to hit every site like this and say starting on such and such a date this is the max we will pay for whatever with whatever type girl in the Albany area. True not every monger is on a site but I believe enough are to make it work. They did it in NJ 6 or 7 years ago and girls were falling over themselves providing better service for lower rates. This actually happened so it could happen again. But I think the new beta men mongers think this is the norm and some of the vets are so hard up they will miss a mortgage payment to get shitty service.

I don't know what else to say. It isn't the girls fault. It is the mongers. Not all, but enough of them.

I don't play in this area. But why don't those of you who do try what I said NJ did years ago that worked. You have nothing to lose.[/QUOTE]These days, you've got a ton of mongers on SA, who pay way more than anyone would dream of paying an average stg hook. The reality is, however, a lot of these SA chicks are barely better than the average hook. In fact, many SA chicks advertise on stg or other hook sites as well. Good luck trying to reign in those sugar prices.

FOSTA, signed into law by Trump, dramatically changed the game, reduced the supply of non-train wreck providers, and increased price structure. When BP and CL were shut down, how women advertise and how they break into the business changed. All of the non-addicted, non-thieving, stable women who got into the game for extra money or money doing something the liked (names like Destiny, Autumn Bolen, etc.) seemed to disappear or may be now on sites like Tryst (where everyone has glamour shots and the prices are much higher) or SA / SB where there is too much time involved for many of us. COVID and OF made things worse. But I read that the money women are making on OF is tanking. So that might change things some.

In short, I think the problem is a lack of supply of rational stable providers.

[QUOTE=WarrenAJeffers;5953431]These days, you've got a ton of mongers on SA, who pay way more than anyone would dream of paying an average stg hook. The reality is, however, a lot of these SA chicks are barely better than the average hook. In fact, many SA chicks advertise on stg or other hook sites as well. Good luck trying to reign in those sugar prices.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SouthGate18;5953496]FOSTA, signed into law by Trump, dramatically changed the game, reduced the supply of non-train wreck providers, and increased price structure. When BP and CL were shut down, how women advertise and how they break into the business changed. All of the non-addicted, non-thieving, stable women who got into the game for extra money or money doing something the liked (names like Destiny, Autumn Bolen, etc.) seemed to disappear or may be now on sites like Tryst (where everyone has glamour shots and the prices are much higher) or SA / SB where there is too much time involved for many of us. COVID and OF made things worse. But I read that the money women are making on OF is tanking. So that might change things some.

In short, I think the problem is a lack of supply of rational stable providers.[/QUOTE]I have ranted on this countless times. I used to be the Craigslist king when they had personals. You would fuck quality chicks half the time for free, half the time for pennies. It was an avenue into the market, not a hooker site, that allowed normal people to post at their own will. Everybody knew craigslist. Women would look, they would post, men would post and hint. It was the perfect avenue for the normal person.

Nowadays there is no avenue for the normal person. At all. Skip the games isn't a known site beyond hookers and the people who get them hooked on hooking. If you asked 100 normal people nobody would know what it is. There is no entrance for the normal person anymore.

I wholeheartedly disagree re SA. I have paid on average 300 for meets 1) without time limits, 2) without many sexual limits, and 3) with some straight 9/10, 10/10, 8/10 girls ranging in age from 18 to 42. A majority of them absolute smoke shows and fantastic in the bedroom. I have only run into a few STG posters and it's obvious. Most of them are legitimate UTR type girls or very new. It has not been a waste of money and the quality on there far exceeds the STG junkies. You just need to have 2 brain cells to figure out how to use SA correctly and weed out girls, read between lines, etc. A lot of guys who fail on SA want to treat it like STG and send "rates?" as their first message or some shit. Don't openly treat them like hookers and it is 100% gold.

[QUOTE=WarrenAJeffers;5953431]These days, you've got a ton of mongers on SA, who pay way more than anyone would dream of paying an average stg hook. The reality is, however, a lot of these SA chicks are barely better than the average hook. In fact, many SA chicks advertise on stg or other hook sites as well. Good luck trying to reign in those sugar prices.[/QUOTE]Everything is out of wack. In NJ, the Trenton and Camden streetwalkers figured out that if they can hold onto a phone they can advertise on STG and get escort rates. Some even started getting rooms and host. And guys are paying a premium for these girls. I have never seen a SW. I just don't like their look. But I realize plenty of guys do and for some that is all they can afford. Now those guys have been priced out of their thing.

It's a mess out there brothers, it's a mess. I have a few UTRs to scrape by but we all get bored and want new blood. Very hard to come by now.

[QUOTE=SouthGate18;5953496]FOSTA, signed into law by Trump, dramatically changed the game, reduced the supply of non-train wreck providers, and increased price structure. When BP and CL were shut down, how women advertise and how they break into the business changed. All of the non-addicted, non-thieving, stable women who got into the game for extra money or money doing something the liked (names like Destiny, Autumn Bolen, etc.) seemed to disappear or may be now on sites like Tryst (where everyone has glamour shots and the prices are much higher) or SA / SB where there is too much time involved for many of us. COVID and OF made things worse. But I read that the money women are making on OF is tanking. So that might change things some.

In short, I think the problem is a lack of supply of rational stable providers.[/QUOTE]You're right. I remember when BP was shut down everything was in disarray for a bit. STG then became a thing and for awhile things did go back to the way they were for a year or two. However some good reliable girls did re emerge with higher prices and then moved to Tryst and more than doubled their rates. Many of those have now gone to working just off Twitter and who knows what they charge.

I still blame the mongers for paying.