[QUOTE=Goaloh;2663936]Sophia, not Sophie. They are not the same girl.[/QUOTE]Are you talking about the Sophia that last worked at Suzi Kims and then moved to Philadelphia and who some on here think is a tranny?
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[QUOTE=Goaloh;2663936]Sophia, not Sophie. They are not the same girl.[/QUOTE]Are you talking about the Sophia that last worked at Suzi Kims and then moved to Philadelphia and who some on here think is a tranny?
[QUOTE=PhlipPhlop;2662753]So you have time on your hands king why don't you locate the cameras, then pretend your a lineman put a yellow hard hat on, take them down then relocate them at the hot dog shoppe. This way we can find out the truth about how many chili dogs Vamp can eat. Of course If you pull a hamstring climbing, you have unmonitored massage parlor only steps away. P. s did you get a gold watch from Sarah for retiring Phlip.[/QUOTE]I've been well feed from the girls at the Vitamin Shoppe and Anna from Harmony. They have made some amazing food for me to try. It's gotten me off the Hot Dog run all together. Waiting for Vi to come back to make some of her great soup this November. But I've got to work my speech to give during King's wedding as his best man. I'm not sure I can get him to come to a bachelor party. He's too wrapped with his new wife to be. She's an amazing find.
[QUOTE=Kyle6002;2664444]So what happen? What did they say to you? Were they accusing you of a crime? And what was your response?[/QUOTE]They tried to shake me down beforehand by producing photos and asking me why I was at such and such place on this date and this particular time. I gave them the answers they didn't want to hear but it was my truth. However, during the raid, they were not interested in me. They were more interested in the girls and shaking down the place for money and other accessories. I remember one guy saying he hoped that I didn't have any warranties because they have arrested me on the spot. No problem. The surreal part was afterwards while talking to one of the guys in the suits and looking down the way at the video cameras and people. And then this old Asian guy walked by. I did see DeWine afterwards making his speech. They were all so proud of themselves but it was a total farce because they came up with nothing. But they did achieve what they set out to do was close most of the spas down in Warren. It didn't matter what the outcome was (meaning no evidence of human trafficking) because it achieved what they wanted to do and MVVP and LEO got their cut of the money and fundings.
[QUOTE=Kyle6002;2664453]Are you talking about the Sophia that last worked at Suzi Kims and then moved to Philadelphia and who some on here think is a tranny?[/QUOTE]Sophia was at the old Sun spa. She was 100% female. All her parts were female. She was older back then, and by now I don't think she is working anymore, maybe a momason somewhere.
[QUOTE=KingIpinni;2661745]So, I get a text the other day and am told by a very reliable source that there are cameras in Warren. I make a few calls and it was 100℅ verified. To be exact there are 4. Not that I will try to educate anyone here, these cameras are not going to be very easy to pick out! There isn't a big box that is painted bright fucking orange that says "cameras in use"! No one picked them out last time and your not going to pick them out unless you climb the pole! Don't worry about them, if you go to the MP and don't got anyone to answer to, it don't matter. If you got a a wife or gf, I would definitely think twice because as they did last time knock knock, who's there, its the BCI, honey what do they want, ohhhh, just some questions about my hobby honey! Really just get in there and finish diner its fine! In other words, don't give advice to the guys that got everything to lose, if you got nothing to lose enjoy. They are there and there. Fact!
KIP- retired mongerer.[/QUOTE]UH OH! You guys are starting to sound like the Jeepster from the previous shutdowns. I wonder if the era of the AMP in Warren is over. What will the guys do now that their little cum buckets are under scrutiny again? Will they be like moths to a flame or will they be able to stop? We have some activity by LEO in Florida. Some of the spas in Tampa are now being watched. Seems there is an effort around the country to shut down the spas. Even Toledo recently had a few raids.
[QUOTE=MrEpS;2665943]UH OH! You guys are starting to sound like the Jeepster from the previous shutdowns. I wonder if the era of the AMP in Warren is over. What will the guys do now that their little cum buckets are under scrutiny again? Will they be like moths to a flame or will they be able to stop? We have some activity by LEO in Florida. Some of the spas in Tampa are now being watched. Seems there is an effort around the country to shut down the spas. Even Toledo recently had a few raids.[/QUOTE]I think it is a lot of talk here. I don't see any proof of camera's.
Who needs camera's when Warren PD is always sitting in the vacant lot across the street. I drive by the one by the bike shop every afternoon and the police are always sitting there.
[QUOTE=OhioHater1;2667889]Who needs camera's when Warren PD is always sitting in the vacant lot across the street. I drive by the one by the bike shop every afternoon and the police are always sitting there.[/QUOTE]Those are only for speeders. They can't stop you for leaving an AMP.
[QUOTE=Goaloh;2667902]Those are only for speeders. They can't stop you for leaving an AMP.[/QUOTE]LOL, speeders. That's a good one. I've never once gotten a speeding ticket in Warren.
[QUOTE=Goaloh;2667902]Those are only for speeders. They can't stop you for leaving an AMP.[/QUOTE]They are accessing the cameras remotely downloading all the video from them. That is why you're seeing them parked there. Word is that the picture is much larger than believed. It's not really local but part of something bigger. Maybe to finish off what they started. Maybe in all of Ohio. This might be the end of the world as we know it. Insert REM song here.
I just came across this interesting article while researching about the bust up in Toledo. [URL]http://www.columbusmonthly.com/content/stories/2015/05/modern-day-slavery.html[/URL] I think it spells out as much as possible what is going on and how the Ohio government is playing the numbers game with the human trafficking line. It's a way to generate money for the local and state governments.
All I'm saying is to play and think safe. The police car is not going to stop you when you leave because they're already pulling the digital video of you going in and out. In fact, these might be the cameras that were left over from the previous raid. Who is to say that they ever took them down. But I think the article points to the bigger picture involved.
[QUOTE=VampireWeekend;2670530]I just came across this interesting article while researching about the bust up in Toledo. [URL]http://www.columbusmonthly.com/content/stories/2015/05/modern-day-slavery.html[/URL] I think it spells out as much as possible what is going on and how the Ohio government is playing the numbers game with the human trafficking line. It's a way to generate money for the local and state governments.
All I'm saying is to play and think safe. The police car is not going to stop you when you leave because they're already pulling the digital video of you going in and out. In fact, these might be the cameras that were left over from the previous raid. Who is to say that they ever took them down. But I think the article points to the bigger picture involved.[/QUOTE]I was hoping things would calm down after the elections, but even though this article is months old, there's probably no end in sight until they close all the spas. And that's a goddamn shame. Guess I'll just have to find me an Asian mail order bride.
Let's show some proof of cameras, instead of all these wild guesses, assumptions and I know this person who knows someone who says they exist. Totally ridiculous.
[QUOTE=VampireWeekend;2670530]I just came across this interesting article while researching about the bust up in Toledo. [URL]http://www.columbusmonthly.com/content/stories/2015/05/modern-day-slavery.html[/URL] I think it spells out as much as possible what is going on and how the Ohio government is playing the numbers game with the human trafficking line. It's a way to generate money for the local and state governments.
All I'm saying is to play and think safe. The police car is not going to stop you when you leave because they're already pulling the digital video of you going in and out. In fact, these might be the cameras that were left over from the previous raid. Who is to say that they ever took them down. But I think the article points to the bigger picture involved.[/QUOTE]Please read this! I think we are" cumming" to the end, so many points in this report are spot on, read it, you may feel different, about the woman, massage Buss. And the way we do our " Buss. " on this board, most important yourself and why you are doing this, and if you will continue? Don't miss understand me, I'm still in need, on the "side" pussy, sex, BJ. More then ever, and will still read, post, follow up on the boards, but with a different view. More then ever stay safe!! Drksd.
[QUOTE=Goaloh;2672689]Let's show some proof of cameras, instead of all these wild guesses, assumptions and I know this person who knows someone who says they exist. Totally ridiculous.[/QUOTE]I'm beginning to question your intent and who you are. The word comes closest to source of Mr Ed's mouth and is not hearsay. I guess we will all know who to thank when the knocks come on the doors especially for the five to six people who parked in the lot early Monday morning at Sunny. Right Goalah?
[QUOTE=VampireWeekend;2670485]They are accessing the cameras remotely downloading all the video from them. That is why you're seeing them parked there. Word is that the picture is much larger than believed. It's not really local but part of something bigger. Maybe to finish off what they started. Maybe in all of Ohio. This might be the end of the world as we know it. Insert REM song here.[/QUOTE]Assuming the LEO are able to remote access due to AMP operator's ignorance of Wireless security, all that would give them is who goes in & leaves.
Nothing on what may / may not be happening inside.
And any intelligent customer should know enough to say NOTHING to the LEO, save "am I free to go? Unless the LEO has stopped them for valid reason? And if for "valid reason", simply accept.
The ticket & go on your way, without saying anything about anything, save "am I free to go?
Just some stray thoughts.
[QUOTE=Rafficax;2672900]Assuming the LEO are able to remote access due to AMP operator's ignorance of Wireless security, all that would give them is who goes in & leaves.
Nothing on what may / may not be happening inside.
And any intelligent customer should know enough to say NOTHING to the LEO, save "am I free to go? Unless the LEO has stopped them for valid reason? And if for "valid reason", simply accept.
The ticket & go on your way, without saying anything about anything, save "am I free to go?
Just some stray thoughts.[/QUOTE]What they are gathering is photos of your license plates to access information about you. It will probably be passed on to the BCI who will come knocking on your door. If you do not answer your door they will walk around your neighborhood and ask questions concerning you. If your significant other is there, they'll pass a card to them to have you call them and still go around the neighborhood asking questions about you. When you call, because you will have to call, they'll ask you to meet at the parking lot of a particular location like the Hot Dog Shoppe where they'll start talking to you in a round about way until they produce an envelope in which they'll start pulling out photos of the spa and the vehicle. Then they proceed to question you why you were at that particular spa at such and such time on such such day. They'll lay it all out for you. This is where the intelligence leaves and you might start wanting to spill the beans thinking this will give you some sort of leniency. It will not. It will only provide the evidence they need to be able to bring you into court. Just like all those other guys that had to go to court. I wasn't one of them because they did not like what I said. I told them my truth. It didn't give them the outcome they were looking for.
This is also what happened around Newton Falls (on a local level with some state guidance) except the police were pulling people over as they were leaving the parking lot. It was intelligence gathering. Just like how LEO pulled me other in an area that is known for prostitution thinking I was just cruising when I was actually heading home. He was disappointed when he handed me back my license.
I got the warning about 30 minutes before the May raid. However I was undressed at the time and ignored the text notice ring in my pants pocket on the chair. I was warned several times beforehand of the cameras and I did not take to the warnings from my sources because like Goalah I thought it was ridiculous. That's why I got the knock on the door. Th.
At's why I was here I wasn't suppose to be.
Even one of the girls in the Euclid raid (over a year ago) was warned two days prior to "take an early vacation" but didn't. She didn't take the warning and was one of the girls that were rounded up and later taken to the airport. And I know who the person was that warned her. He's on this board. There were some situations that were questionable prior to that raid that I noticed beforehand but didn't follow through. Thankfully I was not playing at that time.
And because of some of the reactions of some mongers (on this board) the Shoppe was given warning that there was a search going on for their whereabouts. This was not ignored. Even the word was out about that girl in the duplex in Warren before she moved out of the area. I think she got the warning too.
What I am saying is play it safe. Park around the corner, several blocks away, and take a nice stroll in. Maybe wear a hat, glasses, or particular disguise (like I have done on occasion). I even heard one monger had my Aunt come pick him up at the Hot Dog Shoppe and drive him in and back from the spa. He even took a taxi to the spa during that time period before the May raid when the cameras were up. He played it safe and didn't get the knock on his door.
And the police are not your friends. They are not your friends. THEY ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS! And it's only a massage.
[QUOTE=Goaloh;2672689]Let's show some proof of cameras, instead of all these wild guesses, assumptions and I know this person who knows someone who says they exist. Totally ridiculous.[/QUOTE]If you want to be ignorant to the fact that LEO / officials want to close the spas, hey its on you! I watched the whole thing unwind a few years ago and few did not heed warning. If you think that they need proof or need help, think again! They didn't have it last time and they won't this time either. I know with all certainty that the statements and facts from VPW are 100℅ accurate. Yes, FACT! I said last time as I will say now the goal is to close shop and the forces behind it think its for the betterment of the city. We see it different but, we are the minority. Talk tuff and all that stuff, who are you helping? Its kinda like having an open sore on the head of your cock and telling yourself, its nothing, I will just pull my pants up!
Anyone that is looking for a mail order bride, though mine wasn't ordered, may I suggest Mexican! I have always been a made in America type of guy, now I catch myself looking for "made in mexico"!
Yes, its all tacos and tortillas from here on out!
Happy and safe hunting friends!
[QUOTE=VampireWeekend;2672980]What they are gathering is photos of your license plates to access information about you. It will probably be passed on to the BCI who will come knocking on your door.
This is also what hhappened around Newton Falls (on a local level with some state guidance) except the police were pulling people over as they were leaving the parking lot.
And the police are not your friends. They are not your friends. THEY ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS! And it's only a massage.[/QUOTE]Excellent point, I overlooked it.
Thanks for the timely reminder!
So if you're single like me and don't care what your neighbors think, you have nothing to worry about right? .
And I was only there for a tight hamstring. Wink wink.
[QUOTE=Mose51;2673656]So if you're single like me and don't care what your neighbors think, you have nothing to worry about right? .
And I was only there for a tight hamstring. Wink wink.[/QUOTE]Wink. Wink. You know what I mean? Know what I mean? Say no more. Say no more. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ona-RhLfRfc[/URL].
[QUOTE=CPGuy;2672666]I was hoping things would calm down after the elections, but even though this article is months old, there's probably no end in sight until they close all the spas. And that's a goddamn shame. Guess I'll just have to find me an Asian mail order bride.[/QUOTE]One of the Vitamins is fixing me up with one of her friends. So I'll be hooked up soon.
[QUOTE=VampireWeekend;2672980]What they are gathering is photos of your license plates to access information about you. It will probably be passed on to the BCI who will come knocking on your door. If you do not answer your door they will walk around your neighborhood and ask questions concerning you. If your significant other is there, they'll pass a card to them to have you call them and still go around the neighborhood asking questions about you. When you call, because you will have to call, they'll ask you to meet at the parking lot of a particular location like the Hot Dog Shoppe where they'll start talking to you in a round about way until they produce an envelope in which they'll start pulling out photos of the spa and the vehicle. Then they proceed to question you why you were at that particular spa at such and such time on such such day. They'll lay it all out for you. This is where the intelligence leaves and you might start wanting to spill the beans thinking this will give you some sort of leniency. It will not. It will only provide the evidence they need to be able to bring you into court. Just like all those other guys that had to go to court. I wasn't one of them because they did not like what I said. I told them my truth. It didn't give them the outcome they were looking for.
This is also what happened around Newton Falls (on a local level with some state guidance) except the police were pulling people over as they were leaving the parking lot. It was intelligence gathering. Just like how LEO pulled me other in an area that is known for prostitution thinking I was just cruising when I was actually heading home. He was disappointed when he handed me back my license.
I got the warning about 30 minutes before the May raid. However I was undressed at the time and ignored the text notice ring in my pants pocket on the chair. I was warned several times beforehand of the cameras and I did not take to the warnings from my sources because like Goalah I thought it was ridiculous. That's why I got the knock on the door. Th.
At's why I was here I wasn't suppose to be.
Even one of the girls in the Euclid raid (over a year ago) was warned two days prior to "take an early vacation" but didn't. She didn't take the warning and was one of the girls that were rounded up and later taken to the airport. And I know who the person was that warned her. He's on this board. There were some situations that were questionable prior to that raid that I noticed beforehand but didn't follow through. Thankfully I was not playing at that time.
And because of some of the reactions of some mongers (on this board) the Shoppe was given warning that there was a search going on for their whereabouts. This was not ignored. Even the word was out about that girl in the duplex in Warren before she moved out of the area. I think she got the warning too.
What I am saying is play it safe. Park around the corner, several blocks away, and take a nice stroll in. Maybe wear a hat, glasses, or particular disguise (like I have done on occasion). I even heard one monger had my Aunt come pick him up at the Hot Dog Shoppe and drive him in and back from the spa. He even took a taxi to the spa during that time period before the May raid when the cameras were up. He played it safe and didn't get the knock on his door.
And the police are not your friends. They are not your friends. THEY ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS! And it's only a massage.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't walk any where in Warren. Also, who's the girl in the duplex you're talking about? It's not Jill is it?
[QUOTE=Kyle6002;2673776]I wouldn't walk any where in Warren. Also, who's the girl in the duplex you're talking about? It's not Jill is it?[/QUOTE]Yes, it's Jill. The Sheriff Dept has been monitoring her activities since July. Around the same time they were trying to locate the Vitamin Shoppe.
[QUOTE=Kyle6002;2673776]I wouldn't walk any where in Warren. Also, who's the girl in the duplex you're talking about? It's not Jill is it?[/QUOTE]I have walked in several areas in Warren to be safe. Hell, I even was living in Warren at one point but the areas were the spas are are pretty sparse. If you're single and don't care what your neighbor think then that's fine. Just remember the news media likes to print names and cities. As for the girl in the duplex, yes, it is Jill. They've been monitoring her since July.
I thought the original deal was that the parlors would close for one year and that new ones could open provided they followed the new ordinances? Then I think Tiger opened along with the Sunny on Market.
Did all of that go out the window?
[QUOTE=ClevelandReport;2674473]I thought the original deal was that the parlors would close for one year and that new ones could open provided they followed the new ordinances? Then I think Tiger opened along with the Sunny on Market.
Did all of that go out the window?[/QUOTE]That was the deal, but you now have all these hobbyists stating there are wireless cameras outside the two warren spa's, without one ounce of proof, just by word of mouth. Ridiculous.
[QUOTE=VampireWeekend;2674219]I have walked in several areas in Warren to be safe. Hell, I even was living in Warren at one point but the areas were the spas are are pretty sparse. If you're single and don't care what your neighbor think then that's fine. Just remember the news media likes to print names and cities. As for the girl in the duplex, yes, it is Jill. They've been monitoring her since July.[/QUOTE]Glad my mom lives in PA then and doesn't get on the internet or read the papers. My sister on the otherhand would be so proud.... Haha.
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Sophie is the new flavor of the month. One of my friends says she's great and is planning a dinner with her soon.
[QUOTE=Goaloh;2674530]That was the deal, but you now have all these hobbyists stating there are wireless cameras outside the two warren spa's, without one ounce of proof, just by word of mouth. Ridiculous.[/QUOTE]I did pull into sunny spas parking lot and attempted to park in the back by the entrance door. There are 3 camera's in place. And this was last August.
[QUOTE=Roboguy;2675193]I did pull into sunny spas parking lot and attempted to park in the back by the entrance door. There are 3 camera's in place. And this was last August.[/QUOTE]They are talking about camera's on telephone poles owned by law enforcement, getting pics of hobbyists and license plates visiting the spa's, not the cams owned by Sun spa or Tiger spa.
[QUOTE=Roboguy;2675193]I did pull into sunny spas parking lot and attempted to park in the back by the entrance door. There are 3 camera's in place. And this was last August.[/QUOTE]Where are they at?
[QUOTE=Roboguy;2675193]I did pull into sunny spas parking lot and attempted to park in the back by the entrance door. There are 3 camera's in place. And this was last August.[/QUOTE]Those are the security camera's used by and monitored inside the spa. The ones used by Uncle LEO are called pole camera's and are mounted by the entrance to the spa on a light pole. The only person to know if they are there or not is Uncle LEO. You can not see them because they are hidden. Happy Mongering.
[QUOTE=ClevelandReport;2674473]I thought the original deal was that the parlors would close for one year and that new ones could open provided they followed the new ordinances? Then I think Tiger opened along with the Sunny on Market.
Did all of that go out the window?[/QUOTE]When the busts went down Tiger had been closed for a while and no one went to Sunny so they never had any evidence to prosecute them like all the others. The others all lost their massage permits and everything else Uncle LEO took from them and left town without anyone being arrested and prosecuted. Sunny moved out to the last Sun Spa location. Happy Mongering.
[QUOTE=Goaloh;2674530]That was the deal, but you now have all these hobbyists stating there are wireless cameras outside the two warren spa's, without one ounce of proof, just by word of mouth. Ridiculous.[/QUOTE]The fact that your calling it ridiculous is ridiculous. It is a red flag, which unless you have nothing to lose, should at least be considered. I for one have hoofed it since the last time a government official needed to look good. If you feel it's all hooey then by all means park in the lot, hell go to the police station and tell them your going there now to get a massage. For those who have things at stake, we consider this as a wake up call to be on guard. I scoffed at it last time, I will not make the same mistake again. Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. I must admit this boggles my mind. The first time was understandable, spas were like Starbucks and dog shit, everywhere. The two remaining are innocuous, low key and really not bothering anyone. Phlip.
[QUOTE=PhlipPhlop;2675937]The fact that your calling it ridiculous is ridiculous. It is a red flag, which unless you have nothing to lose, should at least be considered. I for one have hoofed it since the last time a government official needed to look good. If you feel it's all hooey then by all means park in the lot, hell go to the police station and tell them your going there now to get a massage. For those who have things at stake, we consider this as a wake up call to be on guard. I scoffed at it last time, I will not make the same mistake again. Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. I must admit this boggles my mind. The first time was understandable, spas were like Starbucks and dog shit, everywhere. The two remaining are innocuous, low key and really not bothering anyone. Phlip.[/QUOTE]Prove it. Show me a picture of the cams.
76 Spa is now the Blue 76 Spa. New girl there named Hannah. Not sure if it's either the Hannah of Tokyo fame or Fuji's fame. Supposedly everything is back to normal there. Star is the new flavor at Sunny. Bring your A-1 sauce. She likes her love burger well done. [URL]https://hotpopjunk.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/111.png[/URL].
[QUOTE=VampireWeekend;2677344]76 Spa is now the Blue 76 Spa. New girl there named Hannah. Not sure if it's either the Hannah of Tokyo fame or Fuji's fame. Supposedly everything is back to normal there. Star is the new flavor at Sunny. Bring your A-1 sauce. She likes her love burger well done. [URL]https://hotpopjunk.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/111.png[/URL].[/QUOTE]Went to 76 spa asked for hanna not same hanna that worked at toyoko spa total disappointment and then some! May have pulled bait and switch I would never go back the place is worthless!
[QUOTE=Senior2;2679288]Went to 76 spa asked for hanna not same hanna that worked at toyoko spa total disappointment and then some! May have pulled bait and switch I would never go back the place is worthless![/QUOTE]Who else was working.