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[QUOTE=Cowboy E; 1578752]This I know to be true I was at a local motel. And uncle leo was at the hotel and going to rooms. Lucky enough my provider and I are very familiar with each other. What leo was doing was looking for familiar faces he is monitoring BP USA, and many of our favorite sites hes not a detective just a traffic cop. When he knocked on the door and I opened it he said they where checking the registry for people with warrants he didn't ask for our ids. First mistake. I told him we were married and we were having a little get away from our children. He left 10 mins later returned ask if he could speak to her to our surprise. Said there was a complaint that we were arguing second mistake. He proceeded to grill her when she wouldn't budge he came out and called her by her screen name and told her he couldn't do anything to her but he would be watching. So now she has moved to a different area and staying out of NKY. He is a perv Leo trying to strong arm the ladies for his personal ego and enjoyment. Don't be fooled its happening.

Stay safe[/QUOTE]The fastest way to cut through Uncle Leo bullshit should he stop you or bother you as he did these poor folks:

"Excuse me, officer, is this a casual conversation, or do I need my attorney present?"

This will stop the average Leo in his tracks, because you have just painted him into a corner where he better be damned sure he has a crime he can prove or his department will be facing a profiling / wrongful arrest etc complaint and settlement.

I would not have even unchained the door or spoken to him without a warrant, and while he was working one, I get my shyster on the phone and sick him on Leo and the rest of his kin for being assholes out looking for minor crime when there are major fucking crimes going on like the rash of violent home invasions around the entire tri-state.

Now the next question I have for some of you folks is, are you staying in real hotels like Hilton, Ramada Hampton, etc, or are you staying in these shitholes? If you are in a roach motel, well, then you deserved to be bothered. I can't imagine one of the upper tier hotel chains tolerating their guess being unduly harassed. Just in general, I would imagine other guests, honestly traveling for business or whatever, being absolutely pissed at being intruded upon in this manner.

Hotels are just like most women: you get what you pay for.

Your are on the Net right now so open up a tap and Google "Lexis Nexis" and order. Call to find the Criminal Hand book and other Law book available for your State and know your Rights. It can get a little Pricey, but if you can afford it, buy them. They don't sell used copies, but you can find them throughout the net. Firsy look up the names which I don't have at the time of this post, but we have AWESOME Member who do know.

If you can afford it the whole Volume of the Ohio Revised Code runs about $400-500 and it is about 20+ volumes long.

Basically if you know your rights as they are written, then you can intelligently fight back for them. Searching ones Hotel room I don't even know if they can do this, with all the changes in the law, and how the Police can use them.

But Nothing hurts worse than some Mayberry Ass Police Dept. Getting a Royal Butt Fuckin for Abusing there Authority, especially because they think they can. That cost a lot of Money, and it cause end up more like a Class Action Suit. Small Cities Hate that, and the Money Paid out by the City, can Force them to think twice about being Stupid on the Law.

There are several Mini Cities here in Hamilton County that are on the path for this kind of Lawsuit.

Know your Basic Rights, and then expand from there.

Good Luck.

[QUOTE=Mr Boombastic; 1580968]Your are on the Net right now so open up a tap and Google "Lexis Nexis" and order. Call to find the Criminal Hand book and other Law book available for your State and know your Rights. It can get a little Pricey, but if you can afford it, buy them. They don't sell used copies, but you can find them throughout the net. Firsy look up the names which I don't have at the time of this post, but we have AWESOME Member who do know.

If you can afford it the whole Volume of the Ohio Revised Code runs about $400-500 and it is about 20+ volumes long.

Basically if you know your rights as they are written, then you can intelligently fight back for them. Searching ones Hotel room I don't even know if they can do this, with all the changes in the law, and how the Police can use them.

But Nothing hurts worse than some Mayberry Ass Police Dept. Getting a Royal Butt Fuckin for Abusing there Authority, especially because they think they can. That cost a lot of Money, and it cause end up more like a Class Action Suit. Small Cities Hate that, and the Money Paid out by the City, can Force them to think twice about being Stupid on the Law.

There are several Mini Cities here in Hamilton County that are on the path for this kind of Lawsuit.

Know your Basic Rights, and then expand from there.

Good Luck.[/QUOTE]Good info, but no need to spend the money-nearly every state has a Searchable Revised Code available for free online. The three states most of us here would like to learn more about are all online and free-and Ohio's is very well done and even includes a keyword search engine.

I like to keep a copy in the car, which is my old copy and the new copy at home. I just prefer having a hard copy I can take with me to read, at my leisure and to be able to highlight / circle, to get more inform on.

A couple of times, the ticketing officer wrote down the wrong ticket code down, and I looked it up, and in court got the ticket dismissed. That was before the internet became what it is now, and free is better, but I still LOVE my Hard Copy. But I don't like Paying the Price for it.

I burn up to more printer ink printing everything out. My Black Ink Cartridges are 23-25 bucks for the large ones and can't be refilled. And I hate printing in draft form, or low ink light print form.

Anyway, sometimes I'm just Old School on somethings.

[QUOTE=PhatDaty;1581020]Good info, but no need to spend the money-nearly every state has a Searchable Revised Code available for free online. The three states most of us here would like to learn more about are all online and free-and Ohio's is very well done and even includes a keyword search engine.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mr Boombastic; 1581221]I like to keep a copy in the car, which is my old copy and the new copy at home. I just prefer having a hard copy I can take with me to read, at my leisure and to be able to highlight / circle, to get more inform on.

A couple of times, the ticketing officer wrote down the wrong ticket code down, and I looked it up, and in court got the ticket dismissed. That was before the internet became what it is now, and free is better, but I still LOVE my Hard Copy. But I don't like Paying the Price for it.

I burn up to more printer ink printing everything out. My Black Ink Cartridges are 23-25 bucks for the large ones and can't be refilled. And I hate printing in draft form, or low ink light print form.

Anyway, sometimes I'm just Old School on somethings.[/QUOTE]Plus add in the factor of Uncle Leo seeing the ORC right on your passenger seat, may give pause.

I like it!

Of course, pulling out your tablet and asking him as he proceeds exactly what part of the ORC he is enforcing, with your fingers prepared to type in the code, would have a similar effect.

Just want to know if any one else had this happen. This morning I received a text from a well known provider that I haven't ever seen. I had called this person over a month ago left a voice mail. Now red flag #1 keeping my # that long? Then I wasnt ever qualified never gave a reference never had a verbal conversation ever. #2 why send a text out of the blue saying hey its * are you looking for a date today. (DATE )? Stupid me didn't catch on right away because of who she said she was, I immediately ask whats the specials for today. Huge RED FLAG BAM SMACK IN THE HEAD! I was informed 80 for 15 minutes (oral only). Now a seasoned provider would never step out of bounds in a text or a call like that. I questioned the identity. You are such and such right. She said yes. Said no thanks I'm not into the sexual exchange I just enjoy a ladies company and left it alone. What the hell I could have been leo. Everything was way out in left field. Some one tell me I know That I am new here but I have spent alot of time reading and getting up to speed. I know for sure that this provider wouldn't go out there like that. STRANGE VERY STRANGE. Or am I just Over reacting. Trying to be safe. If I would have answered that text wrong My but could have been in a real jam.

[QUOTE=Cowboy E;1581510]Just want to know if any one else had this happen. This morning I received a text from a well known provider that I haven't ever seen. I had called this person over a month ago left a voice mail. Now red flag #1 keeping my # that long? Then I wasnt ever qualified never gave a reference never had a verbal conversation ever. #2 why send a text out of the blue saying hey its * are you looking for a date today. (DATE )? Stupid me didn't catch on right away because of who she said she was, I immediately ask whats the specials for today. Huge RED FLAG BAM SMACK IN THE HEAD! I was informed 80 for 15 minutes (oral only). Now a seasoned provider would never step out of bounds in a text or a call like that. I questioned the identity. You are such and such right. She said yes. Said no thanks I'm not into the sexual exchange I just enjoy a ladies company and left it alone. What the hell I could have been leo. Everything was way out in left field. Some one tell me I know That I am new here but I have spent alot of time reading and getting up to speed. I know for sure that this provider wouldn't go out there like that. STRANGE VERY STRANGE. Or am I just Over reacting. Trying to be safe. If I would have answered that text wrong My but could have been in a real jam.[/QUOTE]Sounds like Uncle LEO busted a provider, got her phone, and decided to set up a sting. I thought you were gone when you asked about the "specials" but you never mentioned money so you are in the clear there. Most providers will not text a customer unless he has asked her to. Sometimes, if he has become a regular that she trusts and her business is slow, she might text him them too. Since you have never talked to the girl and only left a voice mail, it is unlikely that she would be texting you at all. If you had made a date, LEO would have been the only one meeting you at the door. Even if it was legit. 80 for 15 minutes is not exactly a special for the customer but would be pretty special for the provider. Now if the provider is an addict and was jonesing really badly, then all bets are off but either way, you did the right thing, up to and including posting on here about it so that a boneheaded hobbyist has less of a chance of getting stung.

Some of you guys are completely paranoid. Providers do stuff like that all the time, warranted or not.

[QUOTE=CooperCincy;1581859]Some of you guys are completely paranoid. Providers do stuff like that all the time, warranted or not.[/QUOTE]LEO or not, do you really want a provider who will call you out of the blue and interrupt your day-to-day? You see a provider because you know, after the deed is done, you're done. That's it. End of story. You pay her for her time and that is the end of the transaction on your part, and you don't have to see or talk to her again until YOU decide.

Charlie Sheen said it best when he admitted to using Heidi Fleiss' service,"I don't pay them for sex. I pay them to leave.".

If the guy had a history of seeing a provider, multiple times, then maybe. MAYBE. Based on the nature of their friendship. Maybe I can see her calling him when she's in a financial jam. That is a BIG MAYBE. However, considering he has never met her and they have no history of any kind of friendship, she was completely out of line.

For that alone, I would never see her, no matter what the special, no matter how hot she was, and no matter what her reviewed skill levels are.

All valid points. Charlie Sheen certainly said it best. Providers are a hell of a lot less expensive than girlfriends. And in the end, we're still in control. We want to stay / play longer we pay for it. The end.

As for the "relationship" that develops over time there are clearly many. I've enjoyed interesting "relationships" throughout the hobby. My simple rule (always declared once it becomes obvious there's going to be a second or more encounter) is: "don't steal from me and don't ask me to lend you money. But you can certainly call (only during strict calling hours) and ask me if I'm interested in an encounter just about any time and if I can I will."

Play safe.

Cam.

[QUOTE=D Nut; 1581870]LEO or not, do you really want a provider who will call you out of the blue and interrupt your day-to-day? You see a provider because you know, after the deed is done, you're done. That's it. End of story. You pay her for her time and that is the end of the transaction on your part, and you don't have to see or talk to her again until YOU decide.

Charlie Sheen said it best when he admitted to using Heidi Fleiss' service,"I don't pay them for sex. I pay them to leave.".

If the guy had a history of seeing a provider, multiple times, then maybe. MAYBE. Based on the nature of their friendship. Maybe I can see her calling him when she's in a financial jam. That is a BIG MAYBE. However, considering he has never met her and they have no history of any kind of friendship, she was completely out of line.

For that alone, I would never see her, no matter what the special, no matter how hot she was, and no matter what her reviewed skill levels are.[/QUOTE]

I had a street provider who called me out of the blue and I know the last time I saw her I had a different phone, same number, thus I know it was over a year ago. She called me by street name, and said she remembered me, but if I remember her. I had let the number go to voice mail, because I don't like answering unknown numbers. She told me to call her back at that number, so after a few hours when I felt better about taking the chance, I called, and it when to voice mail. I did not leave a message. I finally left a generic message after a few days, but still never heard back from her to this day. I still have that number.

Then I had an SW text me saying she wanted to know whos number this was because she didn't have a name to it. Of course I told her my street name, and she didn't remember it. Her street name is used by many so I wasnt for certain, since so many SW's who never keep a constant number / cell, thus it is not uncommon for some SW you know to call you from a number you don't have. They also often use a friend phone, and sometimes that can be a very good thing, because often their friends sideline too.

Anyway the strange thing about her return call was that she wanted me to send her a Picture of myself. WTF. She had to be on something serious for her to even ask that shit. So of course I wanted a Picture of her, which we play tag with that request, till I told her. She needs me more than I need her, so if she wants to continue calling, she needs to send me a picture, or don't Call Anymore. I knew that would piss her off, and it would be over. I also figured if it were LE looking to go through her RedBook, then they would have sent me a pix of her or someone, whether I knew her or not.

I put her on Caller Reject until further notice.

Lastly I got a referral from a good member, who told me this WSW was reliable. I called, and we talked, and she sent me several regular & nude pix of her before we even met. At that time my schedule limited us from getting together. Then once I had the time, she was not home or her kids were with her.

Turn she started calling from unknown numbers, and wanting to meet up, and if I did it then, she would give me a bargain. But I had to pick her up from a friends, cousin, or drop her off at a friends, relative, to pay off a debt, or to give or borrow money.

I aint nowhere close to Stupid, and I smelled the odor of an addict Jonesing SW right away. Of course she is always going want the Money up front and I don't play that, and she knew this. Jonesing makes an SW really Stupid. Now I must admit I did meet up with her 4xs. I met her in certain areas twice, and twice at her place. But after a few weeks I started getting calls at 2-3-5-6-7am to come pick her up for a date, or to give her a ride, and even to lend her Money. Then I had to get NASTY curse her out, and put her number on reject, and her calling at all times went on for weeks until I saw her on Mugshots, and she had been picked up and jailed on 4-5 charges. The calls had Stopped, a week earlier, along with the unknown numbers on my phone.

Every now and then I get a call from an old SW who still has my number, in her old phone. It is a hit & miss, and with a new number, I don't know it is them. Plus, often they are using friends & relatives phone who may or may not know what they do on the sideline. If you leave a message they May call you back, and later the owner of the phone will call or text you as to who number is on their cell. It can get Crazy at times, especially when they use some guys cell to call you or there Moms phone.

So I assume LE is behind everything even when it is apparent they aren't but it is my PARANOID Self to keep me on my Toes, and to look at everything, whether Strange or not. LE reads this site, and they grow smarter, because of us. Plus many SW's don't want to do time in Jail, and a cell phone full of contacts, is like a Hedi Fleiss RedBook, to LE. So who do you really think an SW is going to be loyal too. Yea that was Easy. And they can now just down load her Contacts, Text Messages, Pictures, and More with just a few Clicks. Everything made Simple.

Yes I am still Paranoid, and I kinda like being that way. I serves me well.

And just because I am Paranoid, don't mean they are still not after me. Wink! Wink!

[QUOTE=Cowboy E;1581510]Just want to know if any one else had this happen. This morning I received a text from a well known provider that I haven't ever seen. I had called this person over a month ago left a voice mail. Now red flag #1 keeping my # that long? Then I wasnt ever qualified never gave a reference never had a verbal conversation ever. #2 why send a text out of the blue saying hey its * are you looking for a date today. (DATE )? Stupid me didn't catch on right away because of who she said she was, I immediately ask whats the specials for today. Huge RED FLAG BAM SMACK IN THE HEAD! I was informed 80 for 15 minutes (oral only). Now a seasoned provider would never step out of bounds in a text or a call like that. I questioned the identity. You are such and such right. She said yes. Said no thanks I'm not into the sexual exchange I just enjoy a ladies company and left it alone. What the hell I could have been leo. Everything was way out in left field. Some one tell me I know That I am new here but I have spent alot of time reading and getting up to speed. I know for sure that this provider wouldn't go out there like that. STRANGE VERY STRANGE. Or am I just Over reacting. Trying to be safe. If I would have answered that text wrong My but could have been in a real jam.[/QUOTE]

I have a Lady I see every now and then who likes to stay UTR but needs help as rent is due and needs help.

She's about 5' tall nice soft B tits soft nipples look are 6 to 7 great BBBJ skills. Service is unrushed works out of a apt with 2 other girls. She is average build. Trusted senior members may PM me for more info. Her prices are very reasonable She is very discrete and would like to keep it that way. Too many people going to the apt causes people to talk.

Marmon

Just got sent to the Marriot in covington to a non existent room, while we normally call ahead as dominoes pizza to confirm the callers number is registered to that room we failed to on this one and got burnt. Our bad!

760 prefix XXX 7332 claimed to be "michael"

Beware that number.

Full number available via PM.

Also had some clown pull the same thing out on beechmont a few days earlier, and I can share his full address and number. Him we did track down, he had sent us to a beechmont address, and a few days earlier sent another provider on this forum to his apartment complex, both addresses were fake, but were within one building of where he actually lived so he could watch us.

Together this other provider and I compared notes, and we did locate his real address, number, name and picture.

Details on both men available via PM.

Still fail to understand how someone gets their jollies that way.

Very sick to mess with someones livlihood.

Crissee

[QUOTE=SexyGirls; 1588321]Just got sent to the Marriot in covington to a non existent room, while we normally call ahead as dominoes pizza to confirm the callers number is registered to that room we failed to on this one and got burnt. Our bad!

760 prefix XXX 7332 claimed to be "michael"

Beware that number.

Full number available via PM.

Also had some clown pull the same thing out on beechmont a few days earlier, and I can share his full address and number. Him we did track down, he had sent us to a beechmont address, and a few days earlier sent another provider on this forum to his apartment complex, both addresses were fake, but were within one building of where he actually lived so he could watch us.

Together this other provider and I compared notes, and we did locate his real address, number, name and picture.

Details on both men available via PM.

Still fail to understand how someone gets their jollies that way.

Very sick to mess with someones livlihood.

Crissee[/QUOTE]Hi Crissee,

Aside from that knucklehead that was giving you problems, I need your opinion on a MP who teases.

But doesn't give anything extra. Whats up with that Hun?

This may be ass backwards but I am going to see where this takes me. I am planning on going to Florida in January and want to see if any of you ladies want to come.

(Just 1) Please pm me and we can talk about meeting up first and discussing. I am for sure on taking care of the airfare- food- condo-rental car etc, I am vouched and will need to

Vouch you if we have never meet. Thank You ladies!

Be Safe.

QD