Went to the one by Sams Club.
$65 for the hr. Mid age mama, no extras. No repeat waste of 75 bucks.
Back to Cali where the grass is greener haha.
PC out.
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Went to the one by Sams Club.
$65 for the hr. Mid age mama, no extras. No repeat waste of 75 bucks.
Back to Cali where the grass is greener haha.
PC out.
Haha. Did that "FYI" convey argumentativeness on my part? Sorry about that! I meant it quite literally. To add information to the conversation is all. I am curious to know though, when you mentioned 10 day "rotation" - does it mean they don't actually leave the trade but instead bat for a different team / city? And "rotate" implies that they could boomerang back? Is that so?
[QUOTE=Watta;2043981]10 Day rotation has been their norm for about 5 years or so. I refuse to argue with anyone but I still bet there is more than one "Rose" about nowadays.
Or they have changed their routine considerably.
Watta.[/QUOTE]
Dreamed I went to the FCCC for the first time and though it was not a great experience it wasn't bad either.
I made it to Arlington BLVD around 1030 and called the operator, she told me there was two avail and sent me the address via txt. On the way over I txt'd "is rose avail" after seeing the reviews below and she replied she works in Hernden but COCO and Danny (yes a girl) are avail. I got to the front door of the condo and the code to open it would not work so now I'm standing in front of the building and I'm paranoid as hell. What was weird is that while I was waiting at the door another Chinese lady (old) walked up about the same time I did and let me in. She went to the same floor just down the hall so I think she might be one of the MMS's who manage the bookings. Anyway made it to the right door and a pretty looking girl (Danny) looks 6-8, answers the door in a pink sheer and panties. She leads me to the bedroom and starts with a massage on my back which lasted about 10 minutes then got the flip. As soon as I turned over she grabbed Mr. Happy and started tugging to wake him up. After he gave a full salute she started with a CBJ which was pretty good while I played with the kitty for a bit. She laid on her back for DATY for few minutes and then mounted up. As I started she kept turning her hips so I could not get full pen but then she started relaxing and got wet and at that moment I started laying it on her. Got mish both legs on my shoulders, k9, and then standing mish w / her on the corner of the bed.
As I said it was an ok experience for the first time but I don't think I would repeat. She looked like she was in pain rather than enjoying it so it was kind of a turn off for me. At one point I stopped and asked her if she wanted me to keep going as I'm not into hurting people. I think I'm going to dream for a true GFE next time so I can enjoy it more and not feel bad while I'm pounding.
So I PM'd two senior member earlier this week looking for some intel on FCCC's but I did not get a reply. The reason I entitled this message as apologies is that everything I needed to fall into my most recent dream was here in the forum. So I offer up my apologies for taking the lazy man's approach, I will do more homework next time. I truly mean it when I say thanks for keeping me honest, now I know how to do more and better research and even picked up a new trick for researching provider's pictures. Happy hunting fellas!
[QUOTE=SomeBilly;2044270]Dreamed I went to the FCCC for the first time and though it was not a great experience it wasn't bad either.
I made it to Arlington BLVD around 1030 and called the operator, she told me there was two avail and sent me the address via txt. On the way over I txt'd "is rose avail" after seeing the reviews below and she replied she works in Hernden but COCO and Danny (yes a girl) are avail. I got to the front door of the condo and the code to open it would not work so now I'm standing in front of the building and I'm paranoid as hell. What was weird is that while I was waiting at the door another Chinese lady (old) walked up about the same time I did and let me in. She went to the same floor just down the hall so I think she might be one of the MMS's who manage the bookings. Anyway made it to the right door and a pretty looking girl (Danny) looks 6-8, answers the door in a pink sheer and panties. She leads me to the bedroom and starts with a massage on my back which lasted about 10 minutes then got the flip. As soon as I turned over she grabbed Mr. Happy and started tugging to wake him up. After he gave a full salute she started with a CBJ which was pretty good while I played with the kitty for a bit. She laid on her back for DATY for few minutes and then mounted up. As I started she kept turning her hips so I could not get full pen but then she started relaxing and got wet and at that moment I started laying it on her. Got mish both legs on my shoulders, k9, and then standing mish w / her on the corner of the bed.
As I said it was an ok experience for the first time but I don't think I would repeat. She looked like she was in pain rather than enjoying it so it was kind of a turn off for me. At one point I stopped and asked her if she wanted me to keep going as I'm not into hurting people. I think I'm going to dream for a true GFE next time so I can enjoy it more and not feel bad while I'm pounding.[/QUOTE]You very probably were not hurting her. For some crazy cultural reason a lot of Asian women get painful expressions on their face during sex and often they even scream like they're in pain. Watch some Asian porn and you'll see exactly what I mean. I've personally experienced it with Japanese, Chinese, Korean and Thai chicks. I've asked on this board before if anyone has any clue as to the cultural influences that cause Asian women to act that way during sex but nobody has had a good answer.
So, if you like Asian women, you're going to have to learn to deal with it because more often than not you're going to see that look of pain. There are a couple of things you can do that might help. First, you can do some DATY to get her loosened up and wet and you'll know she's getting pleasure without anything going on that might cause her pain. The second is to let her get on top (like you did) so she can control the tempo and the depth. If she has a look of pain at that point you can be pretty sure that she's not purposely hurting herself. If it still bothers you, then flip her over and finish in doggy or lazy dog. That way you won't be distracted by the facial expressions.
So my advice is that you don't need to avoid FCCC (or other Asian providers) altogether. You just need to understand this particular issue and figure out how to deal with it.
Gentlemen, I was a frequent day monger in Honolulu, and came to love the AMP scene. It's a much more serene environment, without the majority if pretentiousness and far less issues with uncle than the alternatives. After having moved here a year ago, I'm still having a hard time identifying any AMPs that provide a similar level of care and courtesy to what I found back off of Ward ave and Kapiolani blvd. I rarely travel north from Cville, but if I were to, I'd want to make sure it was worth the trip.
If you don't know what I'm comparing to, look into Kison, Tokyo Spa, and Empire Relaxation in the Honolulu forums.
[QUOTE=CVilleJoe;2045366]Gentlemen, I was a frequent day monger in Honolulu, and came to love the AMP scene. It's a much more serene environment, without the majority if pretentiousness and far less issues with uncle than the alternatives. After having moved here a year ago, I'm still having a hard time identifying any AMPs that provide a similar level of care and courtesy to what I found back off of Ward ave and Kapiolani blvd. I rarely travel north from Cville, but if I were to, I'd want to make sure it was worth the trip.
If you don't know what I'm comparing to, look into Kison, Tokyo Spa, and Empire Relaxation in the Honolulu forums.[/QUOTE]A wealth of information is available on the forum. Please read and educate yourself before starting with the info requests.
[QUOTE=CVilleJoe;2045366]Gentlemen, I was a frequent day monger in Honolulu, and came to love the AMP scene. It's a much more serene environment, without the majority if pretentiousness and far less issues with uncle than the alternatives. After having moved here a year ago, I'm still having a hard time identifying any AMPs that provide a similar level of care and courtesy to what I found back off of Ward ave and Kapiolani blvd. I rarely travel north from Cville, but if I were to, I'd want to make sure it was worth the trip.
If you don't know what I'm comparing to, look into Kison, Tokyo Spa, and Empire Relaxation in the Honolulu forums.[/QUOTE]Save your money, NOVA is the ARMPIT for over priced old mamas. Better off back in HI.
PC out.
Met with Rose, did the h / h, all covered, loved her very tight petite body and her funny and admirable personality. I will def see her again!! H / h rate plus .4 tip.
Gents, please stop cluttering my inbox with requests for detailed info regarding the fccc. I took the advice of members by READING the forum to do my own research and got the info I needed, I suggest you do the same.
I hit the spot off of E. Holly, in Loudoun Co. One of the cheap Chinese syndicate rub places in the county. I needed a yellow fever fix and didn't have time to drive to greener pastures. Good massage with 40 tip for standard noVA. She was ok looking, as far as Chinese providers go but nothing to jump up and down, looks wise, and ask her for her name. Eh, typical "Nothing to see here, move along" experience.
I haven't seen anything recent posted on BKY, but tried it out recently when in the area. As mentioned previously, the entrance is off to the side and seems out of place. I was asked to wait in a side room for about 15 minutes. Small little room with a bed, chair, and TV (with the key channels noted above the TV ESPN, CNN, FOX News...); so at least I could watch TV while waiting. I didn't get the name of the therapist, but she was middle aged, a little extra, with a nice rack (probably a small D). She led me to the massage room which was much larger and nicer than the waiting room. Another nice touch was a space heater directed at the table to keep me warm during the massage. Massage was above average, I didn't mention where I was tight, but she found the spots and worked them out. Some nice teasing as she worked the lower half. I was at attention on the flip she just looked down and then up at me like "what?" I pointed to her hand, she nodded and gently glided around the area for a little more tease. As my hands roamed around from her bottom up her shirt, she just let down the top straps to give me an eye and handful. Things came to the expected end, she gave me a nice TS, I dressed, tipped $40 and she seemed happy.
I tried out the place in the 'Burg and had a similar, but lesser experience. There were a few other cars there and I only saw Lena, who was my "therapist". She is tiny, 5' max and about a be cup. I asked for the hour and TS and she said OK $80, TS after (maybe someone was in it? I was expecting before, especially after seeing the other posts. I was clean and somewhat recently showered, so I went with it. The massage was average, but not the best AMP massage I have gotten. While on my back there was almost no teasing, so I wasn't quite sure how this was going to go. On the flip she massaged my head and face from behind, then moved to the side and did my arms. She went back around behind me and did my chest and stomach with her be cups square in my face, which is when I figured things were back on track. She returned to the side and began to massage my thighs and moved the towel to glide across the important areas. No discussion alons the way and received the standard finish. OTC roaming was OK in most areas, but I was directed away from the why. She cleaned me up and took me to the TS, which was average. Brought me back to the room to get dressed and she went to get me a water. While I was finishing getting dressed she stayed in the room and changed out the table linens. While a little odd, I found comforting to see because if you don't see it do you really know they change them? Since I didn't get the extras below, I thought $40 was fair and tipped before heading out. She seemed happy and gave me a big hug before I left. Not sure if her menu expands with time, but this is still way better than the norm in RIC.
[QUOTE=Loader401;2032764]Stopped by the local spa here in Fredericksburg again. It's the one where they advertise 4 hands on BP. Soooo anywho, I called and setup and appointment. Unfortunately and fortunately my last therapist (Yuyu) was busy. I saw Mena and had a very wonderful time. She was a cute and petite with soft bees and decent bottom. I entered on the side next to Sakura and didn't feel weird because the time of day I stopped by had very light traffic. The TS was average. It almost made me feel like a legit place because she really didn't spend the typical time washing. Quite frankly, it felt a little but rushed. She washed all the necessary places but there was no lingering or indication of extras. Most of the times, after the sponge the hands do a thorough rub down / wash / rinse. There was none of that. Yikes. Even the drying was brief alone in the room. I know, I know, it doesn't seem like I am giving this place a great review but it gets better.
Back in the room she does a lackluster dry job but does start saying how attractive I am and that she is happy, very happy. Okay, now I see some progress. So even though physically there were no signs of monkey business, her words give me the push I need. She then proceeds to whisper in my ear as I lay down, what type of massage do I want? Hard, medium, or soft. Now I can't relay the inflection of her voice but imagine a seductive whisper that is so sensual and almost kissing my ear lobe that I get a wiggle down there. Soft I say. Very soft. So the massage is good. She was medium pressure on certain things and very soft on others, good choice for individual parts. At one point she straddles my head while rubbing my bottom and thighs and I reach up and rub her ass and everything else I could grab. Even though the language barrier was apparent, she did say that my massage to her made her very happy. The rest is history, over and under roaming. I was able to sample some milk during the standard NoVA.
8 for the massage and TS, yes the TS is .1 more. You can get an hr for .7 but if you act now (insert cheesy zoom sound and fake smiling client) they will throw in a TS for only .1 more! I tipped .6. I usually only do .4 for NoVa but when you add the milk and cookies, I tend to drop another. Great place here! Don't F- it up. Treat them nice and happy and safe mongering!
Loader.[/QUOTE]
I was in the area last week for lunch and decided to check out Aza Spa in Mclean.
The place is easy to find and located inside an office park with ample parking. Rang the doorbell and was greeted by Mimi / Minnie? An attractive mid 30's asian lady in great shape. She collected the house fee .8 (thought it was .6 based on previous reviews) and off to the TS. She's very quiet throughout the session and took her time with the TS. It was very relaxing and enjoyable but took way longer than expected. When I returned to the massage room, I only had 35 min left in my session. The massage was soothing with slow long strokes which felt good but I won't consider it therapeutic. She also took her time with the finish and relieved all of my stress and pain points. Thanked her for the relaxing time and tipped .5, total damage $3.
I will repeat again when I am in the area.
Did the place increased the house fee or was I duped of the extra .2? When I inquire about the .6 house fee, she said it had always been .8 and no idea what I was talking about.
I had not been by FCCC in quite awhile but I was in the area and in need of some relief so I called and was told come on over. I was met at the door by Angela, a cute little spinner who had pretty good English. She led me to the bedroom and we took care of business and then she was all over me. She has a nice little body with a pair of impressive bolt ons that make quite a statement.
She started out rubbing those hooters all over my belly and licking and sucking my nipples. She then shifted South and proceeded to show me that she also knows French fairly well. I told her that my boys particularly like to practice their French and she was happy to oblige.
When we had practiced language lessons for long enough she decided it was time for the rodeo and climbed on cowgirl. I realized that she apparently doesn't want to have her breasts mauled because she immediately placed both of her hands over them and acted like it was all self gratification. It may have been, or it may be that she get tired of having them pinched, pulled and generally abused.
When I was slow to finish she hopped off and reached for the baby oil and whacked away with a willingness.
All in all I would give her high marks for enthusiasm and for being willing to respond to requests. She is fairly young, attractive, and good at what she does. I'll be back, but, as always YMMV.
[QUOTE=Theampguy;2051505]I was in the area last week for lunch and decided to check out Aza Spa in Mclean.
The place is easy to find and located inside an office park with ample parking. Rang the doorbell and was greeted by Mimi / Minnie? An attractive mid 30's asian lady in great shape. She collected the house fee .8 (thought it was .6 based on previous reviews) and off to the TS. She's very quiet throughout the session and took her time with the TS. It was very relaxing and enjoyable but took way longer than expected. When I returned to the massage room, I only had 35 min left in my session. The massage was soothing with slow long strokes which felt good but I won't consider it therapeutic. She also took her time with the finish and relieved all of my stress and pain points. Thanked her for the relaxing time and tipped .5, total damage $3.
I will repeat again when I am in the area.
Did the place increased the house fee or was I duped of the extra .2? When I inquire about the .6 house fee, she said it had always been .8 and no idea what I was talking about.[/QUOTE]Neither their BP or CL ads mention the house fee amount which means that, even if others paid .6, the MMS is free to try to get .8 whenever she can.
[URL]http://washingtondc.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/your-_-_-choice-_-new-asian-staff-_-_-aza-spa/13892608[/URL]
[URL]https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/thp/4407251603.html[/URL]
If you want to try for .6, you can call ahead and ask the massage price. If MMS says .8, tell her that's more than you wanted to pay but you will come for .6. But only do this if you are able to make the visit right away. When you arrive tell her you're the guy she spoke to on the phone about the .6 special.
A second option is to just walk in and, when MMS says .8, you counter by saying you thought it was .6 and that's what you're willing to pay. Understand that both these options have the best chance of working during a slow time of the day, not if they're busy. And also they will only work if you are willing to walk out the door if they won't meet your price. So make sure you have the cojones to stick to your guns and a backup plan!
On the tip part, .5 is high for the service you describe. Unless it was a super sensual TS, it caused you to be shorted on your massage time. Sometimes the girls will extend the TS for exactly that reason, less effort on their part. You may not be able to control that but you can always decline the TS entirely (it goes without saying you should be recently showered). Of course, maybe this is just an issue with Mimi / Minnie and if you try another therapist you'll have a different experience.
No matter who you see, .4 is a more customary amount with higher $ reserved for additional levels of service.
Made a recent trip by the old stand by on Edsall. I knew they had a recent management change recently so I want to see if the service was still as good. Seems as if the menu options are now severely restricted. Trusted seniors can PM me for more information.
Sorry to hear about the reduced menu. Although I don't post a lot, I have frequented Lilly.
And her little dogs for the last 3 years. I had never been to nsp.
Without receiving FS. Woops. My last visit about 6 weeks ago was not FS but was the best BBBJCIM.
With prostate massage ever. Some FS was better than others but always FS.
What has been your previous and most recent experience?
Thanks. Funkey.
[QUOTE=BlazinAzn;2056107]Made a recent trip by the old stand by on Edsall. I knew they had a recent management change recently so I want to see if the service was still as good. Seems as if the menu options are now severely restricted. Trusted seniors can PM me for more information.[/QUOTE]
Hey all,
I haven't been active in a long time & even when I was I wasn't active enough to warrant senior membership, but I needed some relief recently & happened to find myself in NoVa (previously I spent most of my time in DC, which at the time was only dying not dead not like now) & did some searching on this site & BP to see if there was any good locations to try on the area I was in (FC area).
Really wasn't finding anything that seemed reliable in any way shape or form, so I figured I'd have to TOFTT. I steeled myself to walk out immediately if I wasn't pleased with what I laid eyes on. It's way to easy to let yourself talk yourself into "Well I'm already here".
Anyway I was met by Lisa who was an 8 in probably get early 30's. She took me straight into the massage which confused me & I stopped her to ask about a shower first but she told me she does the showers after. .. Okay. Not a great sign. She asked me how long & I said an hour so she asked for .8. She then proceeded to give me an intense, covered massage. I was really starting to get a bad feeling by this point. I even offered to take the towel off if she'd like & she laughed & said "I would not like.".
Finally she flipped me over & after massaging my limbs for a while, pointed to Mr. Johnson & asked "massage?" I asked her how much & she said depends what you want. I rolled my eyes & gave her 1.2 figuring I'd hope for the best. She said she'd give me a 1.2 massage. She then striped down through her lady in my face & went to town. At first I thought it was suddenly a BBJ & I started freaking out. But then I realized she was doing something with the crook of her neck & it was amazing. She then proceeded to find all sorts of extremely enticing clever positions while still managing to make it basically a. HJ.
I wouldn't have said it was worth what I paid, but I will say I still didn't walk out disappointed.
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;2055049]
On the tip part, .5 is high for the service you describe. Unless it was a super sensual TS, it caused you to be shorted on your massage time. Sometimes the girls will extend the TS for exactly that reason, less effort on their part. [/QUOTE]A lot of their ads have talked about "hydrotherapy". The long table shower is probably supposed to be a feature, not a flaw. Something for everyone, I suppose.
Went for the new grand open at cc aka asian wellness center too and met "me, me?" (late 30 ish looking lady with longer brown hair) . To put it as briefly as possible, I will place this in the legit category along with crystal, 112 G, health plan, etc. The reason is no standard NOVA and all the discouraging signs: no tease during shower, remained draped at all times both front and back, no roaming, no attempts near junior. Down the drain goes my house fee and .2, but hopefully not yours...
Good day.
[QUOTE=Krakatoa;2058522]A lot of their ads have talked about "hydrotherapy". The long table shower is probably supposed to be a feature, not a flaw. Something for everyone, I suppose.[/QUOTE]IMHO, "Hydro" is nothing more than a marketing gimmick just like when they advertise "Under New Management" or "All New Staff". Also, many (if not most) AMPs start your clock when they first put you into a room and more often than not you don't get the full hour. So I get pretty skeptical about anything that takes away from the primary reason for my visit, which is to get some sensual attention paid to some very specific parts of my anatomy.
As I posted earlier, I'm fine with a longer TS if it hits the right sensual buttons. Otherwise it's just cutting into my time. If an average session lasts 45 minutes and some chick turns a 10 min TS into 20 minutes without making it extra special, I am not going to be a happy camper and they will probably not get my business again.
Easy location to find.
Basement of very busy office complex.
Big clean room.
I saw the TS area but was not offered and I did not ask.
Excellent massage draped entire time.
Very little tease before flip.
Very little roaming allowed however she let me take down her pants to reveal amazing cheeks.
I would not repeat and did not ask name as I knew I would not return.
$8 house fee plus tip.
First time poster, can't even call myself a long time lurker, I've only just recently discovered this site and it was because I was traveling in Miami and my subscription to other AMP sites was flaking out. Spent the past 2 hours trying to find the elusive FCCC and I think I have it. Looks like they have a few posts in April, all using the same girl, that is assuming I have the correct phone number.
Don't want to be a lurker, I'm all for contributing, but this site is unlike any other I've visited with all of the codes and vague descriptions. I have been a premium member at the oThER for many months. But, here goes.
My dreams always involve swans in sterling. The location is nice because it's so secluded, one could easily miss it. I've found the girls to be attractive enough, so far only one out of the 4 or 5 girls I've seen was a real non-looker. The TS is nice, but the door doesn't shut fully. I dread the day my dreams turn into a nightmare due to the door issue. Cici was one of my favorites, lots of teasing while I'm on my stomach, no questions after the flip, just some erotic talk in a nice seductive voice. I always wake up smiling and hope to see Cici again. The numbers 0.7 and 0.5 come to mind.
After literally going through the first 17 pages of posts, I realize there is a lot I'm missing out on, and that swans may not be as great as one thinks. Hopefully, once I get the hang of this site, I'll have better dreams.
Sorry for the late post. Actually made my first visit in 5 months back to the Edsall location this past Sunday.
The rooms are definitely brighter with the new paint. The shower room has also opened up with the work done in there. That old sauna that used to sit there on the right is now gone.
Also gone, as most know, is Lily.
I was greeted by Vicky who probably is late 40's / early 50's and took me to the first room at the top of the stairs.
Table shower was very good and thorough. Back to the room where I received a decent massage and largely standard finish. I actually ended up being there for more than an hour which is a first for me and NSP. .
I really had some great experiences at NSP over the years, especially the last half of 2013, so it saddens me that management has changed. However, I'm sure I will be back in the near future.
[QUOTE=Anonymous625;2060661]First time poster, can't even call myself a long time lurker, I've only just recently discovered this site and it was because I was traveling in Miami and my subscription to other AMP sites was flaking out. Spent the past 2 hours trying to find the elusive FCCC and I think I have it. Looks like they have a few posts in April, all using the same girl, that is assuming I have the correct phone number.
Don't want to be a lurker, I'm all for contributing, but this site is unlike any other I've visited with all of the codes and vague descriptions. I have been a premium member at the oThER for many months. But, here goes.
My dreams always involve swans in sterling. The location is nice because it's so secluded, one could easily miss it. I've found the girls to be attractive enough, so far only one out of the 4 or 5 girls I've seen was a real non-looker. The TS is nice, but the door doesn't shut fully. I dread the day my dreams turn into a nightmare due to the door issue. Cici was one of my favorites, lots of teasing while I'm on my stomach, no questions after the flip, just some erotic talk in a nice seductive voice. I always wake up smiling and hope to see Cici again. The numbers 0.7 and 0.5 come to mind.
After literally going through the first 17 pages of posts, I realize there is a lot I'm missing out on, and that swans may not be as great as one thinks. Hopefully, once I get the hang of this site, I'll have better dreams.[/QUOTE]Last time I went to Swan, after my session the girl just smoothed out the sheets. I realized she probably smoothed out the sheet from the guy before me. As I said, last time I was there.
[QUOTE=DrBombay;2060873]Last time I went to Swan, after my session the girl just smoothed out the sheets. I realized she probably smoothed out the sheet from the guy before me. As I said, last time I was there.[/QUOTE]Now that you mention that, I did notice it as well. It's been my first and only AMP so far, so I guess I figured it was standard. You guys have opened my eyes quite a bit.
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;2031749]Here's her ad [URL]http://washingtondc.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/beautiful-asian-massage/13695313[/URL] and I can vouch for the accuracy of the pic. As I said in an earlier post, I personally think she's better looking in person.
Just wanted to clarify that point but I certainly agree that treating her well gets you treated well in return. If you like her look she's definitely worth a visit and I plan to see her again in the near future.[/QUOTE]Visited her a couple weeks ago but wasn't able to leave a review prior to vacation.
Thank you and HARDIFR for the recommendations of Cristine. Why'all were both on point with her. Looks even better in person. Great massage. Very sweet girl.
Will certainly visit her again.
[QUOTE=BigSkyConferen;2044269]Haha. Did that "FYI" convey argumentativeness on my part? Sorry about that! I meant it quite literally. To add information to the conversation is all. I am curious to know though, when you mentioned 10 day "rotation" - does it mean they don't actually leave the trade but instead bat for a different team / city? And "rotate" implies that they could boomerang back? Is that so?[/QUOTE]I think they generally rotate between cities. I know Rose is in NYC now however she is back fairly frequently. I wouldn't be shocked to see that there is more than one Rose but I know the Rose I left a comment on about a month or two ago is still around. She'll be here for a week, then gone a week, then back a week, etc.
[QUOTE=BigSkyConferen;2044269]Haha. Did that "FYI" convey argumentativeness on my part? Sorry about that! I meant it quite literally. To add information to the conversation is all. I am curious to know though, when you mentioned 10 day "rotation" - does it mean they don't actually leave the trade but instead bat for a different team / city? And "rotate" implies that they could boomerang back? Is that so?[/QUOTE]I have been away or I would have replied to this sooner.
As I understand it, this agency gets new stock in all the time and moves them around within their international network of condos / apartments. The girls usually stay in one place only about 10 days before going to a different place in the network of places. IF this is the same "Rose" then she must have broken loose from the network or talked her way into staying in the area for a longer time.
OR. They have changed the way they operate but with the girls changing at the FCCC still I doubt that is the case.
Anyway, if you want to keep seeing her then have at her! That is what it is all about after all.
Watta.
New place on Loudoun Co., (Ashburn). Advertises on CL (not Swan). A few miles off of 28. Another Chinese syndicate operation, but the place was very clean. The provider was pretty good looking for a Chinese (early 40's). Massage was great. On the flip, I tried to coax her into std. NoVa. She said they don't do that here and she would not continue if I kept on coaxing her. Ok, whatever. After wiping me down with hot towels (at the end of the session), I again tried to gently coax her but she politely refused and walked out. 60 for an hr. I didn't give her a tip and she was like, WTF. Well again, I told her give me 5 minutes with you and I'll tip you. But she again said no. I began to walk out and she was a bit miffed. After thinking about it, I should tipped her something because she did a real good job on the massage but then again, too many of these Chinese syndicate operations are popping up so, IMO, this place needs to do more to compete. And I didn't feel like making a gazillion visits just to make her comfortable with me and give me std. NoVa. F- that. LOL.
Anyone else visit this place, back channel if you had good luck with this spot.
I was wondering if there's any Full service massage shop or escort in northern va?
I read a post about FCCC on alrlington Blvd by another poster. What is the address? What does FCCC stand for?
Thanks.
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So one of my friends works as a hotel based massage girl and will do HJs only and is totally upfrknt about that. She doesn't allow touching because she said she gets too sore from guys squeezing her tits and jamming their fingers in her pussy all day. Recently a customer got really aggressive with her and basically tried to force his fingers in her, but she resisted and got him to leave. Now he is texting her non stop, threatening that he will call the police if she doesn't return his money for the massage. He says he recorded her during the massage and is going to give it to the police. LOL.
It will be pretty funny if he actually does try to get her busted. He will be arrested for sexual assault.
[QUOTE=Serpico99;2067095]New place on Loudoun Co., (Ashburn). Advertises on CL (not Swan). A few miles off of 28. Another Chinese syndicate operation, but the place was very clean. The provider was pretty good looking for a Chinese (early 40's). Massage was great. On the flip, I tried to coax her into std. NoVa. She said they don't do that here and she would not continue if I kept on coaxing her. Ok, whatever. After wiping me down with hot towels (at the end of the session), I again tried to gently coax her but she politely refused and walked out. 60 for an hr. I didn't give her a tip and she was like, WTF. Well again, I told her give me 5 minutes with you and I'll tip you. But she again said no. I began to walk out and she was a bit miffed. After thinking about it, I should tipped her something because she did a real good job on the massage but then again, too many of these Chinese syndicate operations are popping up so, IMO, this place needs to do more to compete. And I didn't feel like making a gazillion visits just to make her comfortable with me and give me std. NoVa. F- that. LOL.
Anyone else visit this place, back channel if you had good luck with this spot.[/QUOTE]Serpico,
I have to agree with you. These places and the women who work there have to be aware that their male customers, while they may appreciate a great massage, are really after the "after-massage" extras. If they give a great massage and can find a way to graciously reject your advances, then perhaps they are due a tip. But if she walked out on you, she doesn't deserve it. I'm not sure about the remuneration structure at a Chinese massage establishment. But I would have to assume that she's getting something for her time and effort. And I would have to guess that a good percentage of them are un-documented. So if she's getting $20 per hour, that's a nice salary for someone who would not be able to earn minimum wage outside of the establishment.
LexLuther.
[QUOTE=LexLuther;2068540]Serpico,
I have to agree with you. These places and the women who work there have to be aware that their male customers, while they may appreciate a great massage, are really after the "after-massage" extras. If they give a great massage and can find a way to graciously reject your advances, then perhaps they are due a tip. But if she walked out on you, she doesn't deserve it. I'm not sure about the remuneration structure at a Chinese massage establishment. But I would have to assume that she's getting something for her time and effort. And I would have to guess that a good percentage of them are un-documented. So if she's getting $20 per hour, that's a nice salary for someone who would not be able to earn minimum wage outside of the establishment.
LexLuther.[/QUOTE]According to Serpico's post, she completed the massage, did a great job and didn't walk out early. So just like any massage therapist (Asian, non Asian, or whatever) she provided the service and reasonably expected a tip. Massage therapy is a service profession, just like waiting tables, and tipping is customary and expected unless the service provided is poor (which Serpico stated was not the case). According to all the circumstances as I understand them, she deserved a tip and was understandably miffed when Serpico refused.
I have absolutely no idea what he means by "Chinese syndicate operation" but it's important to remember there are plenty of legit Asian massage establishments where extras are not ever on the menu. Since Serpico said this was a brand new place, there's no way he could have known beforehand what type it was. So he took his chances and TOFTT, which is great for the board because now we have the benefit of his report. But the fact is that this place appears to be completely legit and the therapist deserved to be treated like any other legit massage therapist.
I also don't get the logic of saying that the "place needs to do more to compete" or his attempted justification that "too many of these Chinese syndicate operations are popping up," If a waitress provides great service but doesn't offer you a free dessert, would you say she doesn't deserve a tip because they (the restaurant owners) need to do more to compete and too many of those types of restaurants are popping up?
Bottom line: legit masseuse + great massage = deserves a tip. Doesn't matter if she's Asian, Martian, undocumented or papered up one side and down the other!
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;2068734]According to Serpico's post, she completed the massage, did a great job and didn't walk out early. So just like any massage therapist (Asian, non Asian, or whatever) she provided the service and reasonably expected a tip. Massage therapy is a service profession, just like waiting tables, and tipping is customary and expected unless the service provided is poor (which Serpico stated was not the case). According to all the circumstances as I understand them, she deserved a tip and was understandably miffed when Serpico refused.
I have absolutely no idea what he means by "Chinese syndicate operation" but it's important to remember there are plenty of legit Asian massage establishments where extras are not ever on the menu. Since Serpico said this was a brand new place, there's no way he could have known beforehand what type it was. So he took his chances and TOFTT, which is great for the board because now we have the benefit of his report. But the fact is that this place appears to be completely legit and the therapist deserved to be treated like any other legit massage therapist.
I also don't get the logic of saying that the "place needs to do more to compete" or his attempted justification that "too many of these Chinese syndicate operations are popping up," If a waitress provides great service but doesn't offer you a free dessert, would you say she doesn't deserve a tip because they (the restaurant owners) need to do more to compete and too many of those types of restaurants are popping up?
Bottom line: legit masseuse + great massage = deserves a tip. Doesn't matter if she's Asian, Martian, undocumented or papered up one side and down the other![/QUOTE]I agree with JS. IMHO for $60 list price, $10 - 15 is reasonable. Not high, but not nothing. Even when I get Groupons for regular massage (at places where I expect no extras), I typically leave at least 15% on what would be the regular retail rate...
[URL]http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/thp/4430191897.html[/URL]
TOFTT at a new place I've been wanting to try. Short version: Completely legit, decent massage, not worth a repeat visit, details below.
Called to set up an appt, no answer and no voice mail (message said voice mailbox not set up). Then received a text asking what time I wanted to come. I made the appt for 6:30, got there at 6:25, texted that I had arrived but no answer. The location is a two story office building with a locked front door, so I waited to see if anyone would come out and then I called. The therapist answered, said someone would come down and after a couple of minutes a Chinese guy opened the door, told me to go upstairs and kept walking to go outside.
When I got to the office my therapist was Kim, an attractive Chinese woman in her mid to late 30's. The massage started at 6:40 and she did a decent job. She spent a long time on my back (covered with a sheet) and didn't do any teasing which left me wondering about the flip and the possibility of extras. She had me flip and started on my head and the underside of my neck. After about 5-10 minutes of that she said "all finished" and walked immediately out of the room. She did absolutely no massage of my front side at all, not even the legit massage parts, and was gone before I could even ask her about anything! Then, when I looked at the clock, I saw she had finished at 7:28 so the massage didn't even last a full hour.
Despite how the ad makes it look, according to Kim this is a two person massage business with one female (Kim) and one male therapist (who also does acupuncture). No TS available, no extras on the menu and she never stays until 10 pm. She said the latest she will take a client is 7:30. Oh, in case you were wondering, the pics in the ad are not Kim.
IMHO, even for legit massage this place falls short. They charge .8 for an hour and my favorite legit massage places in the same area ( [URL]http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/thp/4430570995.html[/URL] and [URL]http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/thp/4428791052.html[/URL]) both charge only .7, deliver a much better massage and NEVER short you on time.
I paid the .8 and left .15 as a tip. I would have tipped a full 20 percent if she had given me the full hour and done a thorough legit massage. FWIW, much better value to be had elsewhere.
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;2068734]According to Serpico's post, she completed the massage, did a great job and didn't walk out early. So just like any massage therapist (Asian, non Asian, or whatever) she provided the service and reasonably expected a tip. Massage therapy is a service profession, just like waiting tables, and tipping is customary and expected unless the service provided is poor (which Serpico stated was not the case). According to all the circumstances as I understand them, she deserved a tip and was understandably miffed when Serpico refused.
I have absolutely no idea what he means by "Chinese syndicate operation" but it's important to remember there are plenty of legit Asian massage establishments where extras are not ever on the menu. Since Serpico said this was a brand new place, there's no way he could have known beforehand what type it was. So he took his chances and TOFTT, which is great for the board because now we have the benefit of his report. But the fact is that this place appears to be completely legit and the therapist deserved to be treated like any other legit massage therapist.
I also don't get the logic of saying that the "place needs to do more to compete" or his attempted justification that "too many of these Chinese syndicate operations are popping up," If a waitress provides great service but doesn't offer you a free dessert, would you say she doesn't deserve a tip because they (the restaurant owners) need to do more to compete and too many of those types of restaurants are popping up?
Bottom line: legit masseuse + great massage = deserves a tip. Doesn't matter if she's Asian, Martian, undocumented or papered up one side and down the other![/QUOTE]If they are trying to be a "legit" place, having a description like:
"With beautiful professional friendly asian female therapists." is not required. I have gone to "legit" massage places (staff by both Asian and non-Asian therapists) where there is no reference to how pretty the therapists are. This place is set-up to service male clients.
Again referencing their ad: SPECIAL PRICE IS OFFERED JUST FOR $49. This was not offered to me. This is similar to the other Chinese operations where they lure you in with a low price than charge you the regular Chinese AMP rate of 60/ hr. I seem to recall a couple of posters griping about the "special" price at the Hunter Mill Rd. Chinese AMP location.
I highly doubt the therapist I had, works only for the tips. She is probably the co-owner. And she probably doesn't declare cash tips to the IRS, just like a restaurant's wait staff. LOL.
Another winner at the FCCC!
I saw Ya-Ya today. Tall, slender, maybe see cups. Nice long brownish hair, BEAUTIFUL face! She is from far Western China and looks almost European.
She has studied massage in school and knows how to do a real massage. Massage lasted about 15 minutes on the back and upon the flip all the things we go see these girls for was done any way I wanted, for as long as I could with no complaints.
This one is really a good one so go see her. Her English is okay and she said she would be here for ONE WEEK only.
Search this forum if you do not have the phone number. Do not ask me.
WATTA GIRL!!