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Exactly
[QUOTE=Dbomb; 1554624]Prostitution is not a last resort for these women. They are not in "must do" situations. They could get a part time job at Wal-Mart or Jewel or wherever, sell some of their possessions, do odd jobs, work at Six Flags, all the mundane menial shit that the majority of people have to do to eek out an existence in the developed western world. But instead, they realized they could make 8. 50 an hour putting stuff on a shelf, or 100-200 or more an hour to let a guy bang them. They chose the latter, the operative word being "chose". They satisfy a bodily need, nothing more or less. Money is exchanged for services. Not to mention the fact that SOME of them do enjoy what they do. Believe it or not, many women like to have sex. I do not look down on these women at all.
We do not choose to "make them objects for our amusement". You may see them as objects, but I certainly don't. They offer a service. We take them up on their offer. To say that they have no choice in deciding to do so is to deny that they have a free will, which is the ultimate in misogyny.[/QUOTE]You are spot on. Which goes back to my earlier point that each of us has our own motivations for hobbying. And some, like the poster, apparently has a negative view of providers. I don't share that view. To each his own.
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Who said cheap?
[QUOTE=Happtrav; 1554756]This has gotten out of line.
You call Spending $$ an hour, cheap? Oh my, what do you do for a living that $$ an hour means, cheap? Hannah is not cheap. She sounded unstable from the start. What she told me was her normal rate was to Ohare. Rosemont is too far and would be extra. I am from out of town, least she could have been was be patient and nice.
The last thing I want is some mentally unstable woman to showup at my classy hotel and create a scene. FYI, I did get laid that night: I picked up a non-pro girl at a nightclub.
Enuf said. Please lets be grownups.
Go see Hannah if you want. I obviously will not. But please do not defend her unprofessional attitude.[/QUOTE]First, when did I say $200 was cheap? Second, I think we are being grownups. Just because someone disagrees with your conclusion doesn't mean they aren't being grownup. Third, you came on this Board and badmouthed a well reviewed provider (concluding she was mentally unstable) without any reasons other than your hurt feelings. Fourth, I'm glad you got laid last night! So did I! She is a porn star and begged to pay me because it was so awesome! And then monkeys flew out of my ass!
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[QUOTE=BigDog16;1554905]First, when did I say $200 was cheap? Second, I think we are being grownups. Just because someone disagrees with your conclusion doesn't mean they aren't being grownup. Third, you came on this Board and badmouthed a well reviewed provider (concluding she was mentally unstable) without any reasons other than your hurt feelings. Fourth, I'm glad you got laid last night! So did I! She is a porn star and begged to pay me because it was so awesome! And then monkeys flew out of my ass![/QUOTE]You're out of line. He had an experience with a provider and reported it. That's the purpose of this forum. You had a different experience and reported that. Great.
But then you seem hellbent to be a shill / pimp for the provider and a jackass to the member. Let it go.
To Happtrav, thanks for the report. Her email to you is enlightening and I would have the same response.
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Amazing
Spent some time with Victoria Jolie on her last trip. Isn't here often and is a bit pricey but was a good month. Has incredible reviews on other sites if want to check out and my visit was no different. What an amazing girl and amazing time. Afraid I may get addicted. Glad she isn't based in this city as I'd go broke!
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[QUOTE=BigDog16;1556029]Who the fuck are you to decide whether someone is "out of line." I'm not a shill or a pimp. There are a ton of bad providers in Chicago and, fortunately, the lady in question is not one of them. The fact that you would have the same reaction to her email says a helluva lot about you. To Happtrav, thanks for the report. Now go get your fuckin' shinebox.[/QUOTE]He had a bad experience and posted it. Exactly what this forum is for. You posted that you had a good experience, great, but then you attacked him for posting negatively about her, just like her pimp would have.
And how about writing an actual report instead of just bashing other members? I looked through your recent posts and they are collection of sarcastic swipes and a general waste of bandwidth.
Stop bashing other members who write reports about actual encounters and start contributing.
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[QUOTE=Bend It; 1556039]He had a bad experience and posted it. Exactly what this forum is for. You posted that you had a good experience, great, but then you attacked him for posting negatively about her, just like her pimp would have.
And how about writing an actual report instead of just bashing other members? I looked through your recent posts and they are collection of sarcastic swipes and a general waste of bandwidth.
Stop bashing other members who write reports about actual encounters and start contributing.[/QUOTE]He had a bad experience? He had no experience. He gave out false and misleading information about a provider and then concluded that she was mentally ill. When pressed for details, he did not provide any facts to support the allegation and I called him on it (what are YOU, his pimp?). [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]
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I love internet tough guys like you, think if you yell long enough, call other people names long enough, that everyone will cower. Do you want to tell me to f*ck off again? Does it make you feel better?
Lets get the facts straight: HappTrav reported on unsatisfactory communication with a provider. You said that you had a good experience with the same provider. That is where this should have ended.
But, in multiple posts afterwards, for reasons only you know, you kept attacking HappTrav, calling him names, telling him to f*ck off, being an internet tough guy. Once again, its inappropriate (and against the forum rules) to attack other members in that way.
And, in reading your posts, you do that all over the forum. I've written three helpful, relevant, current reports in the last month. You go around sarcastically attacking people.
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Circle Jerk
[QUOTE=BigDog16;1556223]F*ck. Off.[/QUOTE]Circle Jerk sounds like a MAGNIFICENT IDEA- Let's do it! LOL.
Sorry, but I have to chime in on this one as well. I don't want to side with one guy nor bash another, but I always get a kick when this happens- Someone posts about a negative experience with a girl. Then one or more guys seem to react strongly, protecting her reputation. Ends up getting a bit out of line sometimes.
This has happened to me, I report a girl stood me up, NCNS, or was acting weird. I know we can vent on the forum- but in the end it's all about posting information that might be helpful to other hobbies. That's what it's all about. It's fair and helpful if another fellow shares his positive experiences with the same girl. I see no problem with that. Though sometimes guys get way too personal, offended or defensive over providers they've seen. Relax, guys!
If we post on NCNS or any other negatives, it's so other guys know what to look out for. I've had shit experiences with Top Review providers on other sites, mostly NCNS. I don't see a problem with posting about it.
Here's a girl I have to update on: Angel at Midway!
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Angel of Midway
Angel stood me up last year. Think she was going by "Goldie" back then? Then some guys stood up for her, saying she was a great gal. Didn't help me feel better, I was PISSED! LOL.
Got the chance to see her recently and must say this girl is GREAT! She has a great attitude and knows what she's doing. Nice bod gets the job done and offers nice specials regularly. Her friend Jade is also kinda cute, though not as professional / mature personality as Angel. Some guys have knocked her pics (cottage these comments. LOL) Not a life-changing experience, but she has a great personality, fun time.
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Good Point
You make some valid points. I don't want to discourage anyone from posting information. It is weird how things can get out of hand. I appreciate someone giving us a heads up (no pun intended). My issue was that the experience described did not match the conclusion. For example, if she advertised BBBJ and everything was covered, I would say he has a beef (again, no pun intended). But this was a guy bitching about rates which were clearly explained by the provider. And then, when she wouldn't play ball, he comes on here and says what a psycho she is (with the obvious intention of hurting her business). I'm not playin ball with that and, in the interest of accuracy (not shilling or pimping) I called him on it. The free flow of information is a two way street. Now, let's get back to mongering. I saw Nana from Backpage yesterday and it was a blast!
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[QUOTE=BigDog16;1556855]You make some valid points. I don't want to discourage anyone from posting information. It is weird how things can get out of hand. I appreciate someone giving us a heads up (no pun intended). My issue was that the experience described did not match the conclusion. For example, if she advertised BBBJ and everything was covered, I would say he has a beef (again, no pun intended). But this was a guy bitching about rates which were clearly explained by the provider. And then, when she wouldn't play ball, he comes on here and says what a psycho she is (with the obvious intention of hurting her business). I'm not playin ball with that and, in the interest of accuracy (not shilling or pimping) I called him on it. The free flow of information is a two way street. Now, let's get back to mongering. I saw Nana from Backpage yesterday and it was a blast![/QUOTE]See, I didn't look at it that way. Hobby had a not-so-great experience trying to set up. Shit, it happens sometimes. And I know part of it is venting for us out of frustration. I actually got ahold of the girl in question and tried to set up time with her. Though she wasn't available when I had time. I'm still looking to see her soon. So far so good, no complains.
I think the problem is sometimes guys get a bit too defensive over providers. But we have to realize providers' personalities, service, attitudes are not necessarily a constant 100% of the time. Would be impossible. I've had a great time with girls, leave thinking "this is the one" I'm going to see this girl on the reg, this hottie is going to get all my dough! Then they flake sometimes. I've called girls back and they're ultra paranoid, yelling at me that they never saw me before. Just shake my head, it happens.
I read a tip feom a hobby on a good girl, worth seeing- I love it! I read a post on a bad experience, NCNS, scammer- I love it too. It's all useful for me, take it in and helps either decide to see a girls or not, or to avoid certain pitfalls.
Good luck, why'all and be safe! And agreed- let's get focus back to banging some o's!
BTW, which nana- lake view or dtown?
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My 2 Cents
Seems people get overly attached to providers or pussy whooped. I too have seen the aformentioned and highly touted Angel / Goldie last year. My experience with her was no where near as enjoyable as other have claimed. She was un professional mechanical, rushed and seemed uninterested in making my time with her enjoyable. So maybe I should say FUCK OFF to all those who said she was great right! Not Yet. YMMV on any visit anytime. Maybe she was figity about LEO at the time. Maybe something else rattled her. It doesn't matter. Not everyone will be treated equal as were not all cloned mutant mongers. We all have different personalities and quirks. Maybe I rubbed her the wrong way or she was simply off that day. So fellas be mindful that if your experience differs from others with the same provider you should take with a grain of salt. So fellas, so that no one here is alienated... Everyone FUCK OFF Now!
[QUOTE=Mr Charmo; 1556637]Circle Jerk sounds like a MAGNIFICENT IDEA- Let's do it! LOL.
Sorry, but I have to chime in on this one as well. I don't want to side with one guy nor bash another, but I always get a kick when this happens- Someone posts about a negative experience with a girl. Then one or more guys seem to react strongly, protecting her reputation. Ends up getting a bit out of line sometimes.
This has happened to me, I report a girl stood me up, NCNS, or was acting weird. I know we can vent on the forum- but in the end it's all about posting information that might be helpful to other hobbies. That's what it's all about. It's fair and helpful if another fellow shares his positive experiences with the same girl. I see no problem with that. Though sometimes guys get way too personal, offended or defensive over providers they've seen. Relax, guys!
If we post on NCNS or any other negatives, it's so other guys know what to look out for. I've had shit experiences with Top Review providers on other sites, mostly NCNS. I don't see a problem with posting about it.
Here's a girl I have to update on: Angel at Midway![/QUOTE]
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Well said, Silvio. YMMV should be the standard caveat to be read into each and every post. I too had Angel / Pure Gold or whatever her name is stand me up while I was in the parking lot. She literally told me that someone else had offered her a higher amount and just walked in. She also made it clear that she runs a volume practice. I wasn't happy but shit happens. Many / most of these girls play by a very different set of rules than the general public. Renter (of time) beware! .
[QUOTE=Silvio;1556884]Seems people get overly attached to providers or pussy whooped. I too have seen the aformentioned and highly touted Angel / Goldie last year. My experience with her was no where near as enjoyable as other have claimed. She was un professional mechanical, rushed and seemed uninterested in making my time with her enjoyable. So maybe I should say FUCK OFF to all those who said she was great right! Not Yet. YMMV on any visit anytime. Maybe she was figity about LEO at the time. Maybe something else rattled her. It doesn't matter. Not everyone will be treated equal as were not all cloned mutant mongers. We all have different personalities and quirks. Maybe I rubbed her the wrong way or she was simply off that day. So fellas be mindful that if your experience differs from others with the same provider you should take with a grain of salt. So fellas, so that no one here is alienated. Everyone FUCK OFF Now![/QUOTE]
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Mea culpa
[QUOTE=Silvio;1556884]Seems people get overly attached to providers or pussy whooped. I too have seen the aformentioned and highly touted Angel / Goldie last year. My experience with her was no where near as enjoyable as other have claimed. She was un professional mechanical, rushed and seemed uninterested in making my time with her enjoyable. So maybe I should say FUCK OFF to all those who said she was great right! Not Yet. YMMV on any visit anytime. Maybe she was figity about LEO at the time. Maybe something else rattled her. It doesn't matter. Not everyone will be treated equal as were not all cloned mutant mongers. We all have different personalities and quirks. Maybe I rubbed her the wrong way or she was simply off that day. So fellas be mindful that if your experience differs from others with the same provider you should take with a grain of salt. So fellas, so that no one here is alienated. Everyone FUCK OFF Now![/QUOTE]Well said. I hereby withdraw my comment telling Bend It to fuck off. And to Mr. Charmo. It was Nana in Lakeview. Standard $160 fare, great body, fake tits, seems to love her job, playfully threatened to f*ck me with her vibrator and all around nice time. Of course, language is an issue with these lovely ladies. Any other questions, pm me.