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Age: 28 height: 5'10" (177 cm).
I need it. Come suck on my pussy and throw that big Dick. Skinny guys ONLY available until 11:30 do not reply after eight one 3 three six zero 97 two four.
I have been very interested in trying what utr girls have to offer, but all of my experience is with BP and shop girls. So before I inflate the price and ruin the game for everyone, I wanted seek the advice of the masters. So far the conversations with the ones that I have been put in contact with have been about willing to trade pay for play bit specific prices haven't really been discuss. Do these girls tend to follow a similar pricing scheme to BP girls or is there a premium for the low volume that these girls are trying to have?
This is my first time ever doing this, it was about two months ago. I posted on craigslist and this provider emailed me asked for a picture and asked what I wanted. Of course it was my first time so I was trying to be impressive or whatever idk and said whatever it costs, she says $$$ LOL of course I say nevermind and she later quotes real price. 8 and tells me never do that because these girls will rip you off. I was busy and I guess she was too so it took about a week to see her. Its about twenty minutes away in a huge house gated community, have to give a name to get in. She greets me at the door, tiny little white chick and says, "OMG he just woke up. " She says she was babysitting and the baby woke up. Which was extremely awkward. Anyways she moves the crib and puts the TV in front of the baby, still awkward. Now that I think about it that's fucked up that a child was in the room. Anyways there is no cop check and she says money up front its my first time so I say ill give you half now half later even though it was safe. I tell her I want a BJ so its. 5. Tells me get comfortable and proceeds with a BBBJ and beats junior up with her mouth. Never had anything like that it borderline hurt but it felt good at the same time haha. She going at it with her throat and stuff and after like 8 minutes she comes up for air and says usually guys are done by now, I'm like okay I'll just have to pay you so give her the rest. 3 more and proceed with CFS she seems like she's enjoying it and I that turns me on more than the actual deed. There's no clock watching at all and after a minute (like 20) she's laying and I still haven't finished so I guess I'm done take cover off and look at her to maybe continue BBBJ? Then she says yeah you can. I'm like what? FS no cover, are you clean? I tell her yeah and she says she gets checked every 3 months (Not thinking these chicks probably have 100 clients in that span) But I proceed, still no clock watching but I was done with the service no completion LOL after like 5 min. The baby was in the room and it was my first time so I figured that was the reason. I gave her $ instead of. 8 she asked for just because. She was nice and very cute safe place and non-covered (said tubes were tied), she said earlier, "you might have to come back when he's not here (baby), on me. " So I text her like two weeks later with no answer and post on here to see if anyone has been found by this chick and see no answers. But I'd definitely like to go back because it was fun, even though my description is vague you should remember going through the gate and giving a fake name, and the huge house. Maybe she's done, because when I was posting on Craigslist she would actually text me after my post she did this like four times, however no texts after that. I don't think I did anything to piss her off? I also gave her $ instead of the. 8 she asked for? So again anyone heard from or of an UTR named Kassandra, or I guess this girl only exists to me.
[quote=timfromfl;2138806]i have been very interested in trying what utr girls have to offer, but all of my experience is with bp and shop girls. so before i inflate the price and ruin the game for everyone, i wanted seek the advice of the masters. so far the conversations with the ones that i have been put in contact with have been about willing to trade pay for play bit specific prices haven't really been discuss. do these girls tend to follow a similar pricing scheme to bp girls or is there a premium for the low volume that these girls are trying to have?[/quote]girls that are utr are a bit tricky. some are pros, some are roa who have been driven to cl and some are simply girls down on their luck trying to make ends meet. personally, the last is my favorite, because they're not bitter or druggies and actually try to get into it, almost gfe because they have to trick themselves into thinking you're an ons to feel better about the deed.
in my experience, the non-pros generally talk quite a bit more, want a picture of you. they will also discuss specific acts for money, which is a bit dangerous, but they don't know better (this generally starts when it moves to a text conversation or numbers get exchanged).
the pros will just send you a number or email. they'll also say something like "won't talk about stuff on cl" and some will, offer pictures. rates get mentioned pretty quickly, and they are 100% business. you'll know the difference after the first couple you talk to. but if not, use some monger lingo (daty, roses, etc.). if they understand what you said and respond, they're pro or roa. if not, you probably have a down on luck normal girl.
as to rates, yes. these girls are all over the place. one of my best experiences was a girl who quoted $$ and i countered with. 4. one bottle of wine and 80 was all it took for three hours of mind-blowing flat-out nymphofest that was one of the top three experiences i've ever had with a woman, paid or not. most start high like $$ or $$ counter with sw rates or low-end bp rates (. 8 hh). most of the time they'll accept, because they really need the cash and hey, it's hh, about ten times what they make at their shitty job at wally world. some will counter higher, like a buck and a half. it's almost always the heavy ones that do this. don't know why, but the fuglier they are the more they want. "normal" looking girls will usually accept low bp rates. haven't run into a princess yet except the bbws (go figure).
if you get a pro, you'll get a flat rate. all four i talked to were ". 5 quicky, . 4 headache, . 8 both (half and half)" without blinking an eye. some will go higher, like 125 hr. in my experience, the pros generally send accurate no-face pics. roa will send inaccurate face pics. if it's a pro who is skinny but the face looks weird, it's actually a guy. if it's tgtbt (model shots), it's a guy who will rob you. if it's a photo of a celeb, it's a guy who will rob you then cornhole you.
if it's a girl that all of a sudden is **** or wants to bring her **** sister, leo sting. if they want you to bring drugs, leo sting. if it's in another county (polk, orlando, miami, sarasota) leo sting.
the above won't hold true always, but in my experience, it's a good start to the cl game. as always, ymmv and you'll find your own "rules" based off of experience.
be extra safe on cl.
please?
[quote=torin131;2140320]girls that are utr are a bit tricky. some are pros, some are roa who have been driven to cl and some are simply girls down on their luck trying to make ends meet. personally, the last is my favorite, because they're not bitter or druggies and actually try to get into it, almost gfe because they have to trick themselves into thinking you're an ons to feel better about the deed.
in my experience, the non-pros generally talk quite a bit more, want a picture of you. they will also discuss specific acts for money, which is a bit dangerous, but they don't know better (this generally starts when it moves to a text conversation or numbers get exchanged).
the pros will just send you a number or email. they'll also say something like "won't talk about stuff on cl" and some will, offer pictures. rates get mentioned pretty quickly, and they are 100% business. you'll know the difference after the first couple you talk to. but if not, use some monger lingo (daty, roses, etc.). if they understand what you said and respond, they're pro or roa. if not, you probably have a down on luck normal girl.
as to rates, yes. these girls are all over the place. one of my best experiences was a girl who quoted $$ and i countered with. 4. one bottle of wine and 80 was all it took for three hours of mind-blowing flat-out nymphofest that was one of the top three experiences i've ever had with a woman, paid or not. most start high like $$ or $$ counter with sw rates or low-end bp rates (. 8 hh). most of the time they'll accept, because they really need the cash and hey, it's hh, about ten times what they make at their shitty job at wally world. some will counter higher, like a buck and a half. it's almost always the heavy ones that do this. don't know why, but the fuglier they are the more they want. "normal" looking girls will usually accept low bp rates. haven't run into a princess yet except the bbws (go figure).
if you get a pro, you'll get a flat rate. all four i talked to were ". 5 quicky, . 4 headache, . 8 both (half and half)" without blinking an eye. some will go higher, like 125 hr. in my experience, the pros generally send accurate no-face pics. roa will send inaccurate face pics. if it's a pro who is skinny but the face looks weird, it's actually a guy. if it's tgtbt (model shots), it's a guy who will rob you. if it's a photo of a celeb, it's a guy who will rob you then cornhole you.
if it's a girl that all of a sudden is **** or wants to bring her **** sister, leo sting. if they want you to bring drugs, leo sting. if it's in another county (polk, orlando, miami, sarasota) leo sting.
the above won't hold true always, but in my experience, it's a good start to the cl game. as always, ymmv and you'll find your own "rules" based off of experience.
be extra safe on cl.[/quote].
[QUOTE=Ajdal;2140624]Please?
.[/QUOTE]Rip off artist.
[QUOTE=TimFromfl;2138806]I have been very interested in trying what utr girls have to offer, but all of my experience is with BP and shop girls. So before I inflate the price and ruin the game for everyone, I wanted seek the advice of the masters. So far the conversations with the ones that I have been put in contact with have been about willing to trade pay for play bit specific prices haven't really been discuss. Do these girls tend to follow a similar pricing scheme to BP girls or is there a premium for the low volume that these girls are trying to have?[/QUOTE]I have dabbled a bit with UTR ladies with a bit of success I might say. I recommend you visit the sugar babies thread under richmond virginia. LOTS of good advice, even though its obviously a different area, the info is still very helpful not to mention entertaining. Monger on brother.
Stay safe,
Fatts.
[QUOTE=Ajdal;2140624]Please?
.[/QUOTE]Rip-Off Artist.
To all that have offered advice, I wanted to say thanks. I have come in contact with a couple of UTR since my initial posting. The first was extremely promising. I have been trying to postpone sending my pic to these girls because I am trying to keep a certain level of discretion, but when I did send her my pic after texting back and forth for a couple of days (about 70 or so texts in all), she responded that I was not her "type" I get that with UTRs that is very much a personal preference more so than the BP girls that are selective about who they see. She was just a down on her luck type that was looking to make a little extra income. Another was definately a little hottie from the pics that she sent, but she was asking for $300 for the month with 1-2 visits for the month, which based on the pics I could definately see her posting and getting those type of prices on BP (not from me, but someone is paying those prices). Her and a lot of the others main issue that I had with them is they all aren't available to host, which sucks for me. I was looking for a more spontaneous thing of being able to call up and ask to come over and not having to go and rent a room and deal with that whole mess. That's also extra money that I am paying for the room that I could be paying for more visits. The rest of my findings so far have been scam artists and pros. Although I have used a couple of Pros that only post to personals section, that is really not what I am looking for. If any other tips come to mind please pass them on and I will share anything that I find in my travels.
thank you sir
[quote=torin131;2140320]girls that are utr are a bit tricky. some are pros, some are roa who have been driven to cl and some are simply girls down on their luck trying to make ends meet. personally, the last is my favorite, because they're not bitter or druggies and actually try to get into it, almost gfe because they have to trick themselves into thinking you're an ons to feel better about the deed.
in my experience, the non-pros generally talk quite a bit more, want a picture of you. they will also discuss specific acts for money, which is a bit dangerous, but they don't know better (this generally starts when it moves to a text conversation or numbers get exchanged).
the pros will just send you a number or email. they'll also say something like "won't talk about stuff on cl" and some will, offer pictures. rates get mentioned pretty quickly, and they are 100% business. you'll know the difference after the first couple you talk to. but if not, use some monger lingo (daty, roses, etc.). if they understand what you said and respond, they're pro or roa. if not, you probably have a down on luck normal girl.
as to rates, yes. these girls are all over the place. one of my best experiences was a girl who quoted $$ and i countered with. 4. one bottle of wine and 80 was all it took for three hours of mind-blowing flat-out nymphofest that was one of the top three experiences i've ever had with a woman, paid or not. most start high like $$ or $$ counter with sw rates or low-end bp rates (. 8 hh). most of the time they'll accept, because they really need the cash and hey, it's hh, about ten times what they make at their shitty job at wally world. some will counter higher, like a buck and a half. it's almost always the heavy ones that do this. don't know why, but the fuglier they are the more they want. "normal" looking girls will usually accept low bp rates. haven't run into a princess yet except the bbws (go figure).
if you get a pro, you'll get a flat rate. all four i talked to were ". 5 quicky, . 4 headache, . 8 both (half and half)" without blinking an eye. some will go higher, like 125 hr. in my experience, the pros generally send accurate no-face pics. roa will send inaccurate face pics. if it's a pro who is skinny but the face looks weird, it's actually a guy. if it's tgtbt (model shots), it's a guy who will rob you. if it's a photo of a celeb, it's a guy who will rob you then cornhole you.
if it's a girl that all of a sudden is **** or wants to bring her **** sister, leo sting. if they want you to bring drugs, leo sting. if it's in another county (polk, orlando, miami, sarasota) leo sting.
the above won't hold true always, but in my experience, it's a good start to the cl game. as always, ymmv and you'll find your own "rules" based off of experience.
be extra safe on cl.[/quote].
[QUOTE=TimFromfl;2141294]To all that have offered advice, I wanted to say thanks. I have come in contact with a couple of UTR since my initial posting. The first was extremely promising. I have been trying to postpone sending my pic to these girls because I am trying to keep a certain level of discretion, but when I did send her my pic after texting back and forth for a couple of days (about 70 or so texts in all), she responded that I was not her "type" I get that with UTRs that is very much a personal preference more so than the BP girls that are selective about who they see. She was just a down on her luck type that was looking to make a little extra income. Another was definately a little hottie from the pics that she sent, but she was asking for $300 for the month with 1-2 visits for the month, which based on the pics I could definately see her posting and getting those type of prices on BP (not from me, but someone is paying those prices). Her and a lot of the others main issue that I had with them is they all aren't available to host, which sucks for me. I was looking for a more spontaneous thing of being able to call up and ask to come over and not having to go and rent a room and deal with that whole mess. That's also extra money that I am paying for the room that I could be paying for more visits. The rest of my findings so far have been scam artists and pros. Although I have used a couple of Pros that only post to personals section, that is really not what I am looking for. If any other tips come to mind please pass them on and I will share anything that I find in my travels.[/QUOTE]Just my recommendation. Never pay "for the month". Scam, you'll never reach her again. In fact, I usually use SW rules. I pop, you get the green.
[URL]http://lakeland.craigslist.org/cas/4550893592.html[/URL]
Not!
Jim.
[QUOTE=Polkeyes;2141399][URL]http://lakeland.craigslist.org/cas/4550893592.html[/URL]
Not!
Jim.[/QUOTE]"I don't know what I'm looking for. ".
And I certainly ain't going to try and help her find it. / eom.
When I was cruising CL. I responded to an ad and got a reply back. It wasn't a spammer, eve. Worse, it was Annette. She's looking to score on all kinds of sites. She didn't post a pic. So if you're looking to hook up on CL, be careful. You may get Annette.
Ad has probably been flagged and is down, so no link. Advertises some on BP, ads on CL usually. Got half for $80. Started CBJ, pretty good but somewhat mechanical, wanted me on top, did some DATY, said she doesn't do that with the half, did standing MISH, DS, couldn't finish, didn't like how low the bed was. Finished HJ, she had to work. Not bad all in all, would repeat.