Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=RogerOver;3013690]I'm only saying it because I don't plan to go to one of his "meet and greets. " or provide PM details on contacting providers. Otherwise, I really couldn't give a shit less.[/QUOTE]I think it is suspicious that both you and FKnow have been here about the same amount of time and have similar numbers of posts and one is calling the other out for being LEO hmmmm and both have a lot of shit to say and few reviews. I would not put credence into either of your reps until proven otherwise. On the other issue of this site, it is safe in the context that it is meant to be. Will anyone get in trouble for things here NO! Is LEO here reading yes and using all the info to their advantage. The only convergence of this and the real world would be when you tie them together, as in I'm twisted69 from usasg etc and I'm here to see SP specific name given.

Just grooving from Memphis. Drinking a chard. Hello to my friends in Cincinnati. If you are in my fair city. Let me know. Will contact to you best in Memphis. Just let me know.

And am also smoking a LEA Dormiaca Digga Cigara. LOL.

[QUOTE=Twisted69;3013796]I think it is suspicious that both you and FKnow have been here about the same amount of time and have similar numbers of posts and one is calling the other out for being LEO hmmmm and both have a lot of shit to say and few reviews. I would not put credence into either of your reps until proven otherwise. On the other issue of this site, it is safe in the context that it is meant to be. Will anyone get in trouble for things here NO! Is LEO here reading yes and using all the info to their advantage. The only convergence of this and the real world would be when you tie them together, as in I'm twisted69 from usasg etc and I'm here to see SP specific name given.[/QUOTE]I dunno about Roger but I am a very picky fokker since I recently met a nice chick. I don't want the mongering to ruin my relationship besides I have always been a selective monger. All covered pretty much takes all providers off my list. And I have said this over and over, since lots of providers are into substances for whatever reasons I really don't care its their business, I stay away. Homes I don't visit to indulge if a provider advertises. I am not interested in SWs. So I really sample very few and keep it that way. Shouldn't stop others to have their share of fun.

[QUOTE=Twisted69;3013796]I think it is suspicious that both you and FKnow have been here about the same amount of time and have similar numbers of posts and one is calling the other out for being LEO hmmmm and both have a lot of shit to say and few reviews. I would not put credence into either of your reps until proven otherwise. On the other issue of this site, it is safe in the context that it is meant to be. Will anyone get in trouble for things here NO! Is LEO here reading yes and using all the info to their advantage. The only convergence of this and the real world would be when you tie them together, as in I'm twisted69 from usasg etc and I'm here to see SP specific name given.[/QUOTE]Maybe you should be a detective. While my posts might not all be reviews, they definitely aren't just me asking a bunch of questions and suggesting a meet and greet.

This is my last post about this issue though. I'm on this board to get pussy, not drama. So I apologize if I've stirred the pot and I wish the best of luck to all of you on getting laid.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;3015075]Maybe you should be a detective. While my posts might not all be reviews, they definitely aren't just me asking a bunch of questions and suggesting a meet and greet.

This is my last post about this issue though. I'm on this board to get pussy, not drama. So I apologize if I've stirred the pot and I wish the best of luck to all of you on getting laid.[/QUOTE]You are the drama here. I suggested a masquerade anonymous party not a meet and greet. A masquerade party is discreet and no one knows each other. Don't twist words. Stop your drama and spare us the pain in the ass.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;3004098]Hey all, I actually typed this up about 2 weeks ago after I saw a senior take a shit on a new person's post, mostly because it was new AND because it didn't go along with the world-view of the senior.

I get that we are all skeptical, and we are looking for reasons to disbelieve something that doesn't match whatever we have in our head. But I think it chases off new talent if you inflict those views on someone that is just trying to contribute.

Sure, there are legitimate reasons to be reserved. The thing is, and this is JUST my opinion, we can't automatically dismiss or trash people that are willing to take the time to type and share their experiences. In fact, I think we should embrace new people, not be assholes to them.

At any rate, I'm not Abraham Lincoln, so not gifted in the oratory arts. But as a new person, I have to say I don't think new people are really made to feel welcome here. If that's what you want, congratulations. If not, well, in a few years you'll find out that seniors really aren't worth as much as newbies.

Just sayin. I'm not a senior.[/QUOTE]Some seniors are a bit closed off but I can understand why most will not share info with a newbie when quite a few of them say the same thing over and over. "Any info on this one, Has anyone seen this girl. Etc". I never expected a senior to give me the digits when I started off. I took my time and read a lot of the posts and when I had trouble on how to look up something I asked. I used the seniors post to help me have great dreams. I don't have hundreds of posts but I have contributed here and there and so a few seniors trusted me enough with numbers. As long as you contribute I would think a lot of seniors won't mind sharing here and there. But if you're the kinda guy that all you do is ask for info with out providing any then don't expect a warm welcome. This is not in reference to You personally. I'm just saying in general. Just my. 02. Stay safe.

Knight.

[QUOTE=DNut;3012805]You do realize that what you describe is a situation where the provider cannot give consent, right? I am not going to use the "R word", but the one consideration I have when justifying to myself the ethics of paying for sex is that everyone involved has consented to all that transpires and was in a state of mind to be able to give that consent.[/QUOTE]A thousand times this. I've walked out more than once because a provider was smashed out of her mind. Consent is crucial whether I'm paying for it or not.

[QUOTE=Knight73;3016798]Some seniors are a bit closed off but I can understand why most will not share info with a newbie when quite a few of them say the same thing over and over. "Any info on this one, Has anyone seen this girl. Etc". I never expected a senior to give me the digits when I started off. I took my time and read a lot of the posts and when I had trouble on how to look up something I asked. I used the seniors post to help me have great dreams. I don't have hundreds of posts but I have contributed here and there and so a few seniors trusted me enough with numbers. As long as you contribute I would think a lot of seniors won't mind sharing here and there. But if you're the kinda guy that all you do is ask for info with out providing any then don't expect a warm welcome. This is not in reference to You personally. I'm just saying in general. Just my. 02. Stay safe.

Knight.[/QUOTE]I remember when I first came on this board and every new guys first report was a LEO sighting, or a sting report. I don't mind giving info to anybody that contributes I just won't do the work for someone who is lazy or scared. We all have lives and things at risk if something went wrong in this hobby that's why it is important to share good info I just don't want to deal with somebody that just wants to eat the bread and not help make it. Like the guy who makes up an account and pms you for information on a girl you wrote about or the guy that always says you got digits. HL29.

Hello All,

I hope everyone has been on their best behavior during my absence. As many of you know I did relocate back to Cincinnati this summer from Los Angeles (Hometown). I'm glad to be back and reconnecting with old friends & meeting new ones.

Every now and then I do a search on my entertaining persona. This is the 1st time I have ever run across a fellow provider bashing me to elevate herself. Here is my response:

I had to go look and see who SilkyWetness was prior to responding to her opinion of me. Never have I had any interaction with this young lady, but definitely willing to open a line of communication.

I remember when I felt the need to belittle someone. In high school. I remember why I did it too. There was something about all those people I envied and I lived for the attention. I wanted to impress those I thought were important.

As a huge advocate in exercising Freedom Of Speech, SilkyWetness, I appreciate you expressing your opinion of me. No matter the lack of personal experience. I hope it worked in your favor. I wish you nothing but the best in your endeavors, whatever they may be.

2016 has been a great year for me and I foresee a greater future.

Never have I had "beef" with another provider and I won't start now.

[QUOTE=SilkyWetness;2942039]Noelle von is a fake up charge up sell and not who she says she is I remember a while back she had beef with another provider and that other provider shut her down rather quickly but thank you for your kind words I'm one of a kind and unique in my own way hope to keep bringing joy and happiness now that it's summer I can wear my daisy dukes and sexy skirts so excited hope you all have a fantastic day and stay horny.[/QUOTE]

I judge the new guys on a case by case basis. I've received a couple PMs in the past from newbies who were trying to get me to reveal info about a provider. In one case, I suspect it was a jealous ex. In another case, the guy was trying to get me to be more specific about a provider's geographic location (this provider did incall at her own place). You can just kind of tell who's up to no good.

And looking back now you're right I shouldn't have said anything for that I do apologize.

[QUOTE=NoelleVon;3019048]Hello All,

I hope everyone has been on their best behavior during my absence. As many of you know I did relocate back to Cincinnati this summer from Los Angeles (Hometown). I'm glad to be back and reconnecting with old friends & meeting new ones.

Every now and then I do a search on my entertaining persona. This is the 1st time I have ever run across a fellow provider bashing me to elevate herself. Here is my response:

I had to go look and see who SilkyWetness was prior to responding to her opinion of me. Never have I had any interaction with this young lady, but definitely willing to open a line of communication.

I remember when I felt the need to belittle someone. In high school. I remember why I did it too. There was something about all those people I envied and I lived for the attention. I wanted to impress those I thought were important.

As a huge advocate in exercising Freedom Of Speech, SilkyWetness, I appreciate you expressing your opinion of me. No matter the lack of personal experience. I hope it worked in your favor. I wish you nothing but the best in your endeavors, whatever they may be.

2016 has been a great year for me and I foresee a greater future.

Never have I had "beef" with another provider and I won't start now.[/QUOTE]"when they go low, I go high". Well played, Ms. Von!

Full disclosure- I am a NV regular and am very glad she is back. A TOTAL class, professional act in every way. I have nothing against Silk (even though she did go 0 for 3 on confirmed appointments with me) but I'd advise her to be more careful in throwing negatives in the future.

The good dr.

Thanks Silk. I appreciate the professionalism displayed. I'm glad we were able to speak on the matter without anyone getting bent out of shape.

Stay safe & beautiful.

Xx.

[QUOTE=SilkyWetness;3019219]And looking back now you're right I shouldn't have said anything for that I do apologize.[/QUOTE]

[blue]If you guys keep kissing and making up would you please post photos?

Pretty please?

A2[/blue]

The Good Doctor.

Thank you for the kind words.

All I desire is to keep this choice in lifestyle safe and exciting. All the other stuff is unimportant. It benefits no one. We have the whole world against us choosing to partake in activities as such. We need to stick together & help one another. Women and men.

[QUOTE=DrDave39;3019249]"when they go low, I go high". Well played, Ms. Von!

Full disclosure- I am a NV regular and am very glad she is back. A TOTAL class, professional act in every way. I have nothing against Silk (even though she did go 0 for 3 on confirmed appointments with me) but I'd advise her to be more careful in throwing negatives in the future.

The good dr.[/QUOTE]

I remember the situation very well. Karmyn Banks made some comments about NV's ethnic background. She said something to the effect of, "black girls shouldn't describe themselves as French mixed with Cuban or Italian mixed with Caribbean. " I don't think she specifically named NV, but it was very obvious who she was referring to.

[QUOTE=NoelleVon;3020138]The Good Doctor.

Thank you for the kind words.

All I desire is to keep this choice in lifestyle safe and exciting. All the other stuff is unimportant. It benefits no one. We have the whole world against us choosing to partake in activities as such. We need to stick together & help one another. Women and men.[/QUOTE]AMEN! And in order to seal the peace process, I volunteer to mediate a peace and love duo with you, me and Silk!

Off to dream.

The good dr.

[QUOTE=DrDave39;3020404]AMEN! And in order to seal the peace process, I volunteer to mediate a peace and love duo with you, me and Silk!

Off to dream.

The good dr.[/QUOTE]You and Jimmy Carter dude! Makin' peace where-ever you go. Your selfless dedication to the peace (piece) process is simply breathtaking! LOL.

Thank you for giving me an insight as to what transpired as I never saw that post.

I understand there are ill feelings towards me from a certain individual. My door is open when they are ready to address whatever their situation may be. I won't hold my breath however.

I can not apologize for knowing and embracing my culture. I love conversing with a fellow Haitian immigrant and my Quinceanera was phenomenal.

I found I dislike the label Ebony. For some reason it has obtained a very bad meaning and attract the wrong people for me in this field. Therefore I choose not to use it when labeling myself. Those who care enough are welcome to disagree.

[QUOTE=TheGark;3020264]I remember the situation very well. Karmyn Banks made some comments about NV's ethnic background. She said something to the effect of, "black girls shouldn't describe themselves as French mixed with Cuban or Italian mixed with Caribbean. " I don't think she specifically named NV, but it was very obvious who she was referring to.[/QUOTE]

Once again, I have to commend Steve at EE. His average response time to each client reference request that I have ever sent to him is less than 100 seconds. A few years ago, Steve also acted as the 'middle-man' for me. I used to have a 'beef' with another reputable provider, and I would need to get client reference requests from her. I would send him the information, he would text her as if the reference was for him and the EE agency, and then relay that information back to me. I have been extremely busy in civvie life in the last few weeks, and I haven't been 'hobbying' much. As I was catching up on my emails this morning, Steve provided me with, and approved, 4 separate client reference requests for me in less than an hour. He deserves an award for that.

Guys, if you have been on the fence, or totally against, using an agency, or dealing with a male scheduler, there's no need to be. He's consistently professional, punctual, and isn't a bull-shitter.

Gals, if you are feeling overwhelmed by the scheduling and screening aspect of the hobby, give Steve a call. He can take care of all of that, and all you have to do is smile, show up on time, and bring home the bacon.

Kisses,

MD.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;3020606]You and Jimmy Carter dude! Makin' peace where-ever you go. Your selfless dedication to the peace (piece) process is simply breathtaking! LOL.[/QUOTE]My goal- The Nobel Piece Prize!

The good dr.

Spreading piece (s) and joy everywhere I go.

Not sure where to post this. Just a general question.

Do providers prefer to do incalls or outcalls??

I see a lot of ads on BP with "incall only". I am sure a lot has to do on the state of the girl and if she has a car or not.

[QUOTE=DrDave39;3020798]My goal- The Nobel Piece Prize!

The good dr.

Spreading piece (s) and joy everywhere I go.[/QUOTE]Or the Noelle Piece Prize. I know which one I'd like to award myself.

[QUOTE=NateTheGreat19;3024242]Not sure where to post this. Just a general question.

Do providers prefer to do incalls or outcalls??

I see a lot of ads on BP with "incall only". I am sure a lot has to do on the state of the girl and if she has a car or not.[/QUOTE]I think most girls like incalls better, because they have more control of the environment and feel safer that way. Or they are just not mobile / too lazy to go somewhere.

Outcall for me is fine if I'm in a hotel room and the girl has a great reputation. I've never invited a girl to my house, but guys are all different about that sort of thing. Some have a lot of trust for girls they've known a long time. But it's been my experience that everyone starts out seeming normal. Crazy chicks look a lot like non-crazy chicks, so I don't take chances.

Hope that's helpful.

[QUOTE=NateTheGreat19;3024242]Not sure where to post this. Just a general question.

Do providers prefer to do incalls or outcalls??

I see a lot of ads on BP with "incall only". I am sure a lot has to do on the state of the girl and if she has a car or not.[/QUOTE]I would think it comes down to a few factors, do they have transportation? Do they have someone to watch them for new clients? Being in a safe hotel has its advantage, she can watch the parking lot, she can watch you out the window, and change there mind after seeing you. Because you may be in the parking lot, but you still need a room number to meet. And if things go bad for her she can always make a lot of noise, because the last thing the John wants is trouble. And face it are you going to the front desk and complaine? Didn't think so. Myself I like incall, I have the choice to back out once seeing the girl, with nothing to lose but my time. And because no way I'm bringing them to my house. Have you seen risky bussines? They cleaned him out. LOL and I get tired of getting rooms and the girls late or no show and I waste $70. After 4 years of playing around with this stuff I've still not met one to bring home yet. Be safe OBR.

[QUOTE=BuyingSmiles;3007425]Couple years ago, Buda's girls had a party. I don't remember how many guys showed up. If my memory serves me right, it was Rebecca, Sasha & cupcake, maybe Jordan. Along with maybe five or mongers. The reviews can be found here. Sounded like the gents had a good time.[/QUOTE]I thought that Cat scooped up quite a bit of the income from that one, even though Rebecca did a lot of the fucking and upkeep on that party.

[QUOTE=Twisted69;3007522]Where do you get your facts? If there are any providers who can see 15-20 clients in a day, that would be less than 1% of providers. The schedule would have to be made well in advance. It would be a revolving door situation meaning clients running into clients at the door! And the provider would have to have great stamina to endure all that exercise! Not likely!! 8-10 maybe, but that would be pushing it.

2nd issue is your party. Not a good idea in these parts, especially since uncle is always watching and the legal ramifications that could be exaggerated out it would not be worth it. Doesn't matter if the charges stick, the fact they would make front page news would ruin most. Good luck if you do attempt it! Count me out!![/QUOTE]No way those numbers work. Sorry if I'm behind on these things, just catching up on some of these posts.

[QUOTE=DickHerDown;3008073]I know it can work because they have been done in the past, though I've never attended. It's very difficult for me to have a free night to myself. You should set it up though. Invite Amon and he can BB all the girls LOL.[/QUOTE]I know it can work as I have participated in more of them than I can count. Well over a dozen anyway. The first ones were organized through the Indypendent site forums and were strictly meet and greet events. High profile ladies did attend and met new friends for more intimate visits at a later time. As we became a closer group of friends, meetings were organized through back channel communications. New people were only invited if they were personally known, active participants in the hobby. Lots of sex occurred at these gatherings, mostly BCD, but in a couple of cases, what would be best described as orgies broke out. In the hot tub, on the patio furniture, in the kitchen. Exchange of money was always done BCD. No problems ever resulted from any of the activities. Staying safe requires a great deal of organization. Everyone attending should be known by face to face contact with the person vouching for them, not just board interaction. Just like being vouched for a session. I organized one of them myself and believe me, it's not easy to hold it together. I swore that was the last of my party organizing efforts. My thanks to Molly and Rhonda for making the trip to Indy and making that one a great day.

[QUOTE=MollyDaniels;3020755]Once again, I have to commend Steve at EE. His average response time to each client reference request that I have ever sent to him is less than 100 seconds. A few years ago, Steve also acted as the 'middle-man' for me. I used to have a 'beef' with another reputable provider, and I would need to get client reference requests from her. I would send him the information, he would text her as if the reference was for him and the EE agency, and then relay that information back to me. I have been extremely busy in civvie life in the last few weeks, and I haven't been 'hobbying' much. As I was catching up on my emails this morning, Steve provided me with, and approved, 4 separate client reference requests for me in less than an hour. He deserves an award for that.

Guys, if you have been on the fence, or totally against, using an agency, or dealing with a male scheduler, there's no need to be. He's consistently professional, punctual, and isn't a bull-shitter.

Gals, if you are feeling overwhelmed by the scheduling and screening aspect of the hobby, give Steve a call. He can take care of all of that, and all you have to do is smile, show up on time, and bring home the bacon.

Kisses,

MD.[/QUOTE]Not that I need nor ask for anyone to provide references very often but Steve has happily provided reference for me on a few occasions in the past. Very professional of him.

Likewise, Miss Molly is not only a fabulous Provider, she has also been a reference for me a few times. True professionalism, in addition to her other admirable assets and talents!

Hat's off to them both for understanding and valuing the importance of references in the biz!

Thank you!

CFG.

Just had to comment on the hilarity of some of these email-me-first ad's. The prose is just ridiculous, LOL.

[I]Pleases you to call me. I am an object of sharp pleasures to be implemented onto your sensation areas giving you long life in return for obstructing my orifices...[/I]

TGM

[QUOTE=TheGenteelMan;3029689]Just had to comment on the hilarity of some of these email-me-first ad's. The prose is just ridiculous, LOL.

[I]Pleases you to call me. I am an object of sharp pleasures to be implemented onto your sensation areas giving you long life in return for obstructing my orifices...[/I]

TGM[/QUOTE]We *really* need a Like button!

Thanks,

Bam.

[QUOTE=BamBam;3029957]We *really* need a Like button!

Thanks,

Bam.[/QUOTE]You may be on to something my friend. Interesting idea =).

TGM

Random thought about the Sharonville fire chief who is all over the news now (see link in News and Media thread):

Residential incall locations are generally better than lower-end motel incalls in terms of LE risk. But residential is obviously not foolproof.

Once again, LE saw fit to ruin someone because he sought what he wasn't getting, or getting enough of at home. Yes, the media reports say the investigation is focused on both the hobby and on drugs, and who knows, maybe there really was enough BS going on to make that environment unpleasant for other residents not involved in the scene. However, it is clear from years of evidence that both the war on drugs and the war on the hobby have been utter failures, yet LE keeps doing the same old blasted thing anyway. Thanks so much, LE.

Ditto. The only silver lining is that the political conversation is finally changing. But we are likely a long way from smarter and more humane policies. Vote accordingly.

[QUOTE=UOnlyLiveOnce;3031127]Random thought about the Sharonville fire chief who is all over the news now (see link in News and Media thread):

Residential incall locations are generally better than lower-end motel incalls in terms of LE risk. But residential is obviously not foolproof.

Once again, LE saw fit to ruin someone because he sought what he wasn't getting, or getting enough of at home. Yes, the media reports say the investigation is focused on both the hobby and on drugs, and who knows, maybe there really was enough BS going on to make that environment unpleasant for other residents not involved in the scene. However, it is clear from years of evidence that both the war on drugs and the war on the hobby have been utter failures, yet LE keeps doing the same old blasted thing anyway. Thanks so much, LE.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=UOnlyLiveOnce;3031127]Random thought about the Sharonville fire chief who is all over the news now (see link in News and Media thread):

Residential incall locations are generally better than lower-end motel incalls in terms of LE risk. But residential is obviously not foolproof.

Once again, LE saw fit to ruin someone because he sought what he wasn't getting, or getting enough of at home. Yes, the media reports say the investigation is focused on both the hobby and on drugs, and who knows, maybe there really was enough BS going on to make that environment unpleasant for other residents not involved in the scene. However, it is clear from years of evidence that both the war on drugs and the war on the hobby have been utter failures, yet LE keeps doing the same old blasted thing anyway. Thanks so much, LE.[/QUOTE]It's also crazy how he gets suspended from his job and wasn't charged or convicted of anything. That means he could be at work kicking it with his friends and say yes I go over Candice house slip her 60 bucks and get the knober of my life. Then the next day he gets suspended. I'm telling you these guys don't play fair. HL29.

[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;3031345]It's also crazy how he gets suspended from his job and wasn't charged or convicted of anything. That means he could be at work kicking it with his friends and say yes I go over Candice house slip her 60 bucks and get the knober of my life. Then the next day he gets suspended. I'm telling you these guys don't play fair. HL29.[/QUOTE]Problem is, he admitted he saw her. Regardless, the same thing could easily happen to me, except they'd go straight to firing me instead of giving me any kind of leave or suspension.

I honestly don't know what to do. I usually tell myself I'm getting out of this deal whenever I read about something like this (but I obviously always end up back in the game). It's unsettling because I've done some hobbying in that part of town recently. But my little soldier has some good years left and I'm about take any vows of celibacy.

While I figure out what to do, I'm just going to keep hitting the gym and keep flirting with chicks.

Remember: It is an Election year.

[QUOTE=Crazykev;3031230]Ditto. The only silver lining is that the political conversation is finally changing. But we are likely a long way from smarter and more humane policies. Vote accordingly.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;3031345]It's also crazy how he gets suspended from his job and wasn't charged or convicted of anything. That means he could be at work kicking it with his friends and say yes I go over Candice house slip her 60 bucks and get the knober of my life. Then the next day he gets suspended. I'm telling you these guys don't play fair. HL29.[/QUOTE]He had the right to remain silent. Confession may be good for the soul, not so much public office.

Stay safer.

LM.

[QUOTE=LeoMac;3031597]He had the right to remain silent. Confession may be good for the soul, not so much public office.

Stay safer.

LM.[/QUOTE]But it likely wouldn't have prevented him from being suspended. The right to remain silent only matters in court, not with your employer.

This is Sunny from last Thursday. She meets all of my well known qualifications. You can see more of her on the Memphis Escort Report Board, including the most erotic photo I have posted in years.