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[QUOTE=Da_Hunter;1675767]Went to TDs West and saw a younger goth looking dancer named "Justice" (I think). She was aggressive on the floor so we went to the VIP. Not much more happened there. After 4 dances and the $22 entrance fee, I wondered why I was wasting my money looking for something that might or might not happen (I've never had more than a HJ at TD's West, maybe I am doing something wrong). Left the club and called Bianca.[/QUOTE]Smart move. At some point it's just best to eat it and cut your loses.
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[QUOTE=TaterTot75;1675796]Does Bianca answer her phone. I can't get a hold of her.[/QUOTE]When I asked if she minded if I shared her digits she said she did mind. She said she was getting a lot of calls from numbers she didn't recognize. She is also getting a lot of press on this forum so maybe business is good enough where she can turn down clients. Just like with hobbyists, seeing someone you know is typically a lot safer than seeing someone new.
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Curious
Has anyone been to November Bar and Cabaret?
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Venom info
[QUOTE=Crutch;1675645]I'd also be interested in who to invite since I haven't had too much luck in that place.[/QUOTE]The dancers know what the booths are for. It's been my experience that any dancer who asks you to go to the private booths knows what's going to happen and you should go. I have only recently re-engaged at Venom but every time a dancer suggests we go to the private booths I have not been disappointed. They even brought their own condoms. But I used mine because theirs were too small. So go prepared.
As one of the dancers explained to me, the Venom VIP is $15 per dance plus $10 admission. There are cameras in the VIP. there are NO cameras in the private booths. The private booths are $20 per dance plus time. Time is sold in 15 minute increments: $15/15 minutes, $25/30 minutes, $35/45 minutes, $45/60 minutes. The private booths remind my of the old days in Nogales (Cherries, Lipsticks, etc.) but these booths are more comfortable and spacious.
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Wow, so you're paying the club something like $120 for 15 minutes. And that's before you pay the girl anything? Unless I'm misunderstanding, that doesn't sound very economical to me.
[QUOTE=Stripper Luv; 1676710]The dancers know what the booths are for. It's been my experience that any dancer who asks you to go to the private booths knows what's going to happen and you should go. I have only recently re-engaged at Venom but every time a dancer suggests we go to the private booths I have not been disappointed. They even brought their own condoms. But I used mine because theirs were too small. So go prepared.
As one of the dancers explained to me, the Venom VIP is $15 per dance plus $10 admission. There are cameras in the VIP. There are NO cameras in the private booths. The private booths are $20 per dance plus time. Time is sold in 15 minute increments: $15/15 minutes, $25/30 minutes, $35/45 minutes, $45/60 minutes. The private booths remind my of the old days in Nogales (Cherries, Lipsticks, etc.) but these booths are more comfortable and spacious.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Uncivil;1676883]Wow, so you're paying the club something like $120 for 15 minutes. And that's before you pay the girl anything? Unless I'm misunderstanding, that doesn't sound very economical to me.[/QUOTE]Ah, no.
Not sure about your fuzzy math.
To go to the private booths I pay $15 to the club for 15 minutes. That's all I pay to the club-not $120. Then I pay the dancer $20 per dance while I'm in the private booth. Sometimes it only takes a couple of songs to finish business.
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Venom
[QUOTE=Stripper Luv; 1676710]The dancers know what the booths are for. It's been my experience that any dancer who asks you to go to the private booths knows what's going to happen and you should go. I have only recently re-engaged at Venom but every time a dancer suggests we go to the private booths I have not been disappointed. They even brought their own condoms. But I used mine because theirs were too small. So go prepared.
As one of the dancers explained to me, the Venom VIP is $15 per dance plus $10 admission. There are cameras in the VIP. There are NO cameras in the private booths. The private booths are $20 per dance plus time. Time is sold in 15 minute increments: $15/15 minutes, $25/30 minutes, $35/45 minutes, $45/60 minutes. The private booths remind my of the old days in Nogales (Cherries, Lipsticks, etc.) but these booths are more comfortable and spacious.[/QUOTE]We must have encountered different dancers, SL. That was deffinately not my experience. You seem to be about the only one that's having any fun there.
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A buddy of mine told me that it is absolutely filthy. Sleazy by even dive bar standards. Absolutely no contact with girls, filthy bar with cockroaches and rat traps out in the open, and dancers that look like they are baked out of their mind.
[QUOTE=Grymm;1676387]Has anyone been to November Bar and Cabaret?[/QUOTE]
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My bad. Either I misspoke or misarticulated, so did something wrong. When I said "club", I was in the mindset of a song being about 2 and a half minutes and the fees that you are required to pay.
I've never been successful getting much strip club action, but I was of the understanding that to get what we're really looking for one must pay monies over and above what is required. I guess I just can't imaging a dancer giving FS for the same cash as she gives a mere lap dance.
If I'm misunderstanding and the $20 a song is indeed all-inclusive, please let me know and if that's so I'll hit up this club during my lunch hour today!
[QUOTE=Stripper Luv; 1677089]Ah, no.
Not sure about your fuzzy math.
To go to the private booths I pay $15 to the club for 15 minutes. That's all I pay to the club-not $120. Then I pay the dancer $20 per dance while I'm in the private booth. Sometimes it only takes a couple of songs to finish business.[/QUOTE]
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I gave November one shot. It was Saturday evening. They had one other customer in the VIP, one dancer with that customer in the VIP, a bartender, and me. That was it.
To me, the bartender was way hotter than the dancer they had there. I didn't go just for a drink, so I tried hard to get the bartender to dance for me. I just couldn't talk her into it. She was Asian. And I mean that her ancestors were clearly from Asia. (I say this because based on many Backpage photos I see from girls claiming to be Asian, apparently there is another definition of "Asian" that I am unaware of. OK, side rant over).
I drive by once in a while (on other business), and I very rarely ever see the place open. I don't know what their hours of operation are, but apparently it's not many.
Anyway, after that experience, I just can't see myself going back there.
[QUOTE=Desert Rat 520;1677481]A buddy of mine told me that it is absolutely filthy. Sleazy by even dive bar standards. Absolutely no contact with girls, filthy bar with cockroaches and rat traps out in the open, and dancers that look like they are baked out of their mind.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Uncivil; 1677552]My bad. Either I misspoke or misarticulated, so did something wrong. When I said "club", I was in the mindset of a song being about 2 and a half minutes and the fees that you are required to pay.
I've never been successful getting much strip club action, but I was of the understanding that to get what we're really looking for one must pay monies over and above what is required. I guess I just can't imaging a dancer giving FS for the same cash as she gives a mere lap dance.
If I'm misunderstanding and the $20 a song is indeed all-inclusive, please let me know and if that's so I'll hit up this club during my lunch hour today![/QUOTE]Depends on the dancer and services.
I've had it two ways: $20 per song for very high mileage. If extras performed, I tip appropriately because I will usually want an encore performance. I've also been quoted a fixed price, all inclusive, which varies by the dancer.
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Wow!
[QUOTE=Desert Rat 520;1677481]A buddy of mine told me that it is absolutely filthy. Sleazy by even dive bar standards. Absolutely no contact with girls, filthy bar with cockroaches and rat traps out in the open, and dancers that look like they are baked out of their mind.[/QUOTE]Damn dude thanks for the info guess I ain't going any time soon.
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[QUOTE=Stripper Luv; 1677604]Depends on the dancer and services.
I've had it two ways: $20 per song for very high mileage. If extras performed, I tip appropriately because I will usually want an encore performance. I've also been quoted a fixed price, all inclusive, which varies by the dancer.[/QUOTE]I think you'll find SL's advice applies to most clubs and dancers (not just the private booths at Venom). He is a very wise and experienced monger.
I've only been into Venom a couple of times since the CS closed so can't say which dancers are willing. Something I may have to change now that the booths are in operation. As to other clubs, generally you get much better service once the dancer knows you and knows you're willingness to tip appropriately for the mileage you may receive. Just my nickel's worth.
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[QUOTE=Grymm;1676387]Has anyone been to November Bar and Cabaret?[/QUOTE]I haven't been there in a while, but the last time I was there it was a s*t-hole, girls weren't friendly, but I didn't care because they looked like cast offs. I doubt it's improved, but you might take a chance.
Good luck
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I guess this is why I'm so gunshy about the strip clubs. It feels like you have to drop quite a bit of cash for them to "get to know you" or "feel comfortable with you" (whatever the hell those things mean) , and then you got to drop more cash to finally get what you want, which could be several visits later.
I don't know. Feels too much like dating, to me. Plus it seems like quite the financial investment. I know this isn't a poor man's hobby, but that doesn't mean I don't want good value for my money.
At least with escorts, yeah, you're rolling the dice, but if you win you get what you want on the first visit.
[QUOTE=Kirstyforme; 1677724]I think you'll find SL's advice applies to most clubs and dancers (not just the private booths at Venom). He is a very wise and experienced monger.
I've only been into Venom a couple of times since the CS closed so can't say which dancers are willing. Something I may have to change now that the booths are in operation. As to other clubs, generally you get much better service once the dancer knows you and knows you're willingness to tip appropriately for the mileage you may receive. Just my nickel's worth.[/QUOTE]