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Hello all,
I haven't really been participating to much lately just been to dam busy. Anyways was wondering if anybody had any suggestions on were I could get a special massage this afternoon. I just moved over by PV mall and would like some were reasonably close not out in Mesa.
Thanks Guys.
Max.
[QUOTE=Tempe Jon; 1453027]Does anyone know anything about these two providers?
[url]http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/tantalizing-tempting-tantric-beauty-full-body-to-body-sensual-rub-25/16910738[/url]
[url]http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/a-touch-to-remember-full-body-to-body-tantra-body-rub-by-beautiful-goddess-25/17270287[/url]
I know for an absolute fact that the pictures in these two ads are not of the girl because when I searched them on images. Google. Com I found them on at least 20 different websites. They both say though that they do Nuru so even if it is not them I would be willing to try them if I could get some intel on them. I was not able to find any reviews of them on here or any other site so that is why I am a bit leary. Could they possibly be the dreaded uncle LEO?[/QUOTE]Tempe Jon has been really asking about Nauru massages. Now he's got me interested in them.
This is what a Nuru massage is:
[url]http://www.tube8.com/embed/asian/nuru-massage/311392/[/url]
Now you can see why I want one.
[QUOTE=AsianK; 1453330]T Jon been asking about Nuru massages. Now you got me interested in them. Good luck and have
Un.[/QUOTE]
Popular in Bangkok, not so much in Pattaya. They are called "Soapies" over there. Did one every afternoon while in Bangkok. No shower, but the bath and mattress were all part of the time. Up to two hours for $60. BUT, once you shot your load you were done. So it was a game; they tried there hardest to get you off and I tried my hardest to get my two hours in. I think I averaged about an hour and a half each time, but man, you have to focus! A lot of fun though.
[QUOTE=Tempe Jon; 1453554]This is what a Nuru massage is:
[url]http://www.tube8.com/embed/asian/nuru-massage/311392/[/url]
Now you can see why I want one.[/QUOTE]
Nuru actually originated in Japan. What separates Nuru from other body glides like your Thai soapy and such is that it uses a very special nuru gel that is made of seaweed. The gel is heated up before they use it. A definition that I found on the internet states:
Nuru Massage, also called Body Slide is a massage performed with a special kind of massage gel called Nuru Gel. The word nuru comes from the Japanese language and it means "slippery", but we tend to believe it was also originated from the name of the Seaweed used in it, called "Nori". The nuru gel is very cool and comfortable when you apply it to your skin, when getting a nuru massage the masseuse will rub your entire body with the nuru and slide on you for a perfect body to body massage.
The nuru gel is made from deep seaweed (Nori) and is transparent, tasteless, odorless, extremely slippery and smooth. The gel is cool when applied to the skin, when getting a nuru massage the masseuse / masseur rubs the body of the client with the nuru gel and slides on it for a sensual body to body massage.
From my research, a nuru massage is a massage where the masseuse would use a special gel and she would use her whole body to massage the client's body. They often both do it naked and sometimes this massage form may end in a form of sexual activity.
Read more: [url]http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_nuru_massage[/url]#ixzz1veC3MxLF.
I have read many reports that that gel is the greatest thing around. It is important that they use that gel. If you look on the internet there are quite a few places where you can buy it. I hope some of the providers are reading this forum so that they can see there is a market for this and more can start offering it so there is more competition.
[QUOTE=Papa Rotzi;1453625]Popular in Bangkok, not so much in Pattaya. They are called "Soapies" over there. Did one every afternoon while in Bangkok. No shower, but the bath and mattress were all part of the time. Up to two hours for $60. BUT, once you shot your load you were done. So it was a game; they tried there hardest to get you off and I tried my hardest to get my two hours in. I think I averaged about an hour and a half each time, but man, you have to focus! A lot of fun though.[/QUOTE]
I have done this many times at the Cristin Massage at Pukett. I really enjoyed the bath and the soapy air mattress. I remember one time the woman went and got a cover and did the ACG while I was on my back on the mattress. She got her self off then said she was sorry. Go figure. After the "Soapie" she dried me with towel, got on her knees and BBBJ and applied the cover then hopped on the bed, legs open and pointing to her kitty. Horny Thai woman this was. Back then it was $1800 Baht. 1 Thai baht = 0. 0319 US dollars. I remeber the fish bowl where the young ones were on the right and older ones on the left. I of course chose from the older group 30+ because I have never met a young one who knew what she was doing between the sheets. They don't speak english either so it was sign language or just go with her flow. Most all of them were skilled at what they were doing. Much better that taking a bar girl home with you for the night. Pepe.
[QUOTE=Papa Rotzi;1453625]Popular in Bangkok, not so much in Pattaya. They are called "Soapies" over there. Did one every afternoon while in Bangkok. No shower, but the bath and mattress were all part of the time. Up to two hours for $60. BUT, once you shot your load you were done. So it was a game; they tried there hardest to get you off and I tried my hardest to get my two hours in. I think I averaged about an hour and a half each time, but man, you have to focus! A lot of fun though.[/QUOTE]
Ditto!
I totally agree.
Exactly the same thing I did except wife's pussy messed up by Chemo.
Pepe.
[QUOTE=FloatMyBoat; 1452571]It is funny, to think how many times my wife has said she has a headache, I'm too tired, blah, blah blah. I gave up six years ago on her and I think she is happy. (still married just no sex)
The girls at the AMP's never have a headache, not too tired and yeah it cost me about a grand a month to feed the beast.
I actually have a regular, that does a lot of extra's and sometimes doesn't charge me as I buy her nice gifts, take her shopping etc.
I have had three regulars over the years that turn out to be fairly good friends with benifits.
When I look back on all the child support, house one x got, I could have paid for my habit and someone elses and been money ahead.
Now that is messed up.
Be safe and I hope each of you is as lucky as me to have one girl out of the bunch that actually likes me not for my benjimins.[/QUOTE]
Papa,
I think you and I talked about this a year or so ago. I never got to Pattaya, but I did Bangkok on an R&R from Nam and you are right. The nuru / soapies in Thailand are impossible to believe unless you've been there. Doing one and being able to hold out for an hour and a half is impressive. You are my new hero. :D
Have you ever tried "Russian Roulette, Bangkok Style"? You're supposed to have 6 girls (my buddy and I only had four, two each. Shit, it was only twenty bucks for the whole night back then). The girls are in a circle with their asses pointing at you (you're in the middle) and you go round and round and keep sticking your dick into different pussies one after another until you cum. And whichever one gets you to cum wins the prize (both your cum and whatever dollar amount you put up for the prize). I did this back in 1967 before AIDS was invented, so we didn't think anything about catching the clap or whatever (hell, we were going back to a place where little brown people were shooting at us. Who gave a shit about the clap!.) , but I don't think I'd want to do it now.
I'm jealous about you going over there now. I just know you come back with a shit eatin' smile on your face. :D
Keep up the good work,
Dirty.
[QUOTE=Papa Rotzi;1453625]Popular in Bangkok, not so much in Pattaya. They are called "Soapies" over there. Did one every afternoon while in Bangkok. No shower, but the bath and mattress were all part of the time. Up to two hours for $60. BUT, once you shot your load you were done. So it was a game; they tried there hardest to get you off and I tried my hardest to get my two hours in. I think I averaged about an hour and a half each time, but man, you have to focus! A lot of fun though.[/QUOTE]
I'm new to this site, but not to the hobby. I just want to first off thank all you fellow mongers for some valuable info I have taken from this forum. It has come in very handy in my personal experiences. I am looking forward to sharing some of my upcoming adventures with you all. It has been a couple of weeks since I've been out mongering. I plan on hitting the trail this weekend. I do hope the info I will share with you all will be as valuable as the info I receved.
Wish you all wonderful days.
[QUOTE=Tempe Jon; 1453631]Nuru actually originated in Japan. What separates Nuru from other body glides like your Thai soapy and such is that it uses a very special nuru gel that is made of seaweed. The gel is heated up before they use it. A definition that I found on the internet states:
Nuru Massage, also called Body Slide is a massage performed with a special kind of massage gel called Nuru Gel. The word nuru comes from the Japanese language and it means "slippery", but we tend to believe it was also originated from the name of the Seaweed used in it, called "Nori". The nuru gel is very cool and comfortable when you apply it to your skin, when getting a nuru massage the masseuse will rub your entire body with the nuru and slide on you for a perfect body to body massage.
The nuru gel is made from deep seaweed (Nori) and is transparent, tasteless, odorless, extremely slippery and smooth. The gel is cool when applied to the skin, when getting a nuru massage the masseuse / masseur rubs the body of the client with the nuru gel and slides on it for a sensual body to body massage.
From my research, a nuru massage is a massage where the masseuse would use a special gel and she would use her whole body to massage the client's body. They often both do it naked and sometimes this massage form may end in a form of sexual activity.
Read more:
[url]http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_nuru_massage[/url]
#ixzz1veC3MxLF.
I have read many reports that that gel is the greatest thing around. It is important that they use that gel. If you look on the internet there are quite a few places where you can buy it. I hope some of the providers are reading this forum so that they can see there is a market for this and more can start offering it so there is more competition.[/QUOTE]Great video Jon. You will have to expect to pay big bucks for this type of service, there seems to be a lot of work required for it. Most AMP's just want to make a quick buck. They wouldn't be inclined to spending their time / resources getting involved in such an act. Just my take on it. Good luck out there.
Visiting phoenix soon. Looking forward to the AMPs and table showers!
[QUOTE=Tempe Jon; 1453631]Nuru actually originated in Japan. What separates Nuru from other body glides like your Thai soapy and such is that it uses a very special nuru gel that is made of seaweed. The gel is heated up before they use it. A definition that I found on the internet states:
Nuru Massage, also called Body Slide is a massage performed with a special kind of massage gel called Nuru Gel. The word nuru comes from the Japanese language and it means "slippery", but we tend to believe it was also originated from the name of the Seaweed used in it, called "Nori". The nuru gel is very cool and comfortable when you apply it to your skin, when getting a nuru massage the masseuse will rub your entire body with the nuru and slide on you for a perfect body to body massage.
The nuru gel is made from deep seaweed (Nori) and is transparent, tasteless, odorless, extremely slippery and smooth. The gel is cool when applied to the skin, when getting a nuru massage the masseuse / masseur rubs the body of the client with the nuru gel and slides on it for a sensual body to body massage.
From my research, a nuru massage is a massage where the masseuse would use a special gel and she would use her whole body to massage the client's body. They often both do it naked and sometimes this massage form may end in a form of sexual activity.
Read more:
[url]http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_nuru_massage[/url]
#ixzz1veC3MxLF.
I have read many reports that that gel is the greatest thing around. It is important that they use that gel. If you look on the internet there are quite a few places where you can buy it. I hope some of the providers are reading this forum so that they can see there is a market for this and more can start offering it so there is more competition.[/QUOTE]In Japan, nuru services are provided in service establishments known as soaplands. It is considered a legal, legitimate business and a loophole in an otherwise illegal activity. Still, they don't service foreigners and you could probably count on one hand the ones that do in all of Japan.
If your travels ever take you to Shanghai, I know of at least two foreigner-friendly establishments that provide nuru (one of which also has a Shanghai specialty) for very reasonable $.4. Obviously, communication can be a problem unless you know some Chinese. The hosts in the front know a little English, but the girls inside do not. Still, sitting in a fishbowl of 20-30 girls for your choosing is fun.
From what I understand, there are lots and lots of them in California. I guess San Diego, San Francisco and Los Angeles have a lot of them. They are like the growing rage there. New York has a lot of them too. Unfortunately, they have not caught on here yet. Maybe it is because Phoenix does not have a large Japanese population?
[QUOTE=AsianK; 1453917]Great video Jon. You will have to expect to pay big bucks for this type of service, there seems to be a lot of work required for it. Most AMP's just want to make a quick buck. They wouldn't be inclined to spending their time / resources getting involved in such an act. Just my take on it. Good luck out there.
Visiting phoenix soon. Looking forward to the AMPs and table showers![/QUOTE]
Thanks for the info Dirty Old Guy. Good info.
[QUOTE=Dirty Old Guy; 1450403]Bubba,
Don't you get tired of all the newbies asking, 'Where's the action, Anybody tried her yet, etc, etc". Hell, the last two previous posts are from newbies wanting info!
Hey newbies, the way to do it is RTFF first, (all the info you will ever need is already there. Do some research like we did when we first started) go 'get-are-done' somewhere and then post about your experience. Build up some 'cred' here before you start asking for help and info. Once we have some confidence in you and your posts, THEN we'll be happy to help you out with info. And remember, it is not the quantity of your posts that makes you a "true" senior, it is the quality. I don't know how Jackson would ever do this, but I think it would be a good idea, for a person to gain senior status, to have posted "X" number of quality, verifiable posts. A large number of posts doesn't mean a damn thing if there is not some good information in them.
I've posted this before, but maybe it's time to do it again. Newbies, here is some of the most valuable info you will ever get for this hobby. It will help you with your experience (s) in this hobby of ours.
Enjoy the hobby,
Dirty.
1) Leave Valuables and Extra Money Outside. Only take in what you need. Some places may want to see your I'd. You will need money or a credit card to pay. I usually take my cell-phone, keys, and only enough money to pay for what I want. If you don't know what the charge will be, put money in different pockets or hide it in your wallet (behind a photo or something) so they don't see all your money at once. I had one girl looking in my wallet after I told her I was used to paying $100 for FS and she wanted $150. Luckily, I had already "moved" the extra money somewhere else and only paid the $100. Use the specific city forums to research and post pricing in the area you are going.
2) Entry into the AMP. Entry can be done in a number of ways. Sometimes, there is a locked door with a buzzer and sometimes you enter like a normal business. When you are greeted, smile and say Hello, to the person letting you in. They will most likely be the mama-san who is in charge of the girls. At some point, either at the front or in a massage room, you'll be asked what you want. Simply state "1 Hour Please" or whatever time limit you want. You'll be told a price and you should pay that to start without talking about any tips or extras. I recommend at least an hour as shorter times may cheapen your experience. 30 minutes is good if you are in a rush or short on cash. Sometimes you pay the person admitting you and sometimes it's the actual girl you pay. At this point, you aren't asking for anything other than a massage.
3) Become a Repeat Customer. This seems to be the number one factor. The providers want to make sure you are "not a cop" and once they are comfortable that you aren't, they will more than likely provide extras. I've been asked many times, ' have you been here before?" and it's always good to answer "yes". If they remember you, even better. If not, try and remember the name of the person you saw before.
3a) Get / Present a Business Card. Some AMPs have business cards so you can ask for one on your way out. I have the girls write their name on them so I didn't forget and I could "ask" for them when I go back. Even if they weren't there on my visit, it showed the new provider or mama-san that I was there before. If you walk in with a business card and ask for a specific girl, that's a pretty big clue you're back for more.
3b) Fake Being a Repeat Customer. If you haven't been to a particular place before, act like you have been. Get information about them in the forums for the cities you plan on visiting, or your home town. Find out the going rates for HJ, BJ, FS etc. And have the money handy. Even a little comment during the Table Shower or Sauna such as "this is my favorite part" or something along those lines will make them think you were there before. Do your research before you go!
3c) If you are a new Customer. You can tell them that you have been to other AMP's in another city. This is a good technique if you are travelling and are trying out AMP's in a new city. You can also name a competitor and say you used to go there but you moved and this one is closer or that you want to try something new. The goal is to let them know you've been to AMP's before, but that you are new to their particular establishment. Depending on the place, this may or may not lead to extras.
3d) Prove you are not LE. If a provider thinks you are a cop, you will most likely NOT get any extras. This is why some check your drivers license (although I haven't had that happen). Some are content with the "Are you a cop?"/"no" routine. Others want to be sure so tips like being free with your nudity, placing her hands on your genitals, or anything else that leads them to believe you are a normal guy not looking to bust them. That's pretty much the whole point of being a repeat customer.
4) Get Fully Undressed ASAP. Yes, you will be naked. In my experience, the girl takes your door fee, leaves for a minute or more. Sometimes she will ask you to get undressed, sometimes she won't, sometimes she will and you won't understand a word she said. So use this time to take ALL of your clothes off. My first time, I was standing in my underwear and she told me to take those off too. I felt as if she knew it was my first time. So get naked and if the towel slides off, let it. It will show her that you have done this before. Be free with nudity.
5) Use Provided "Purse". Many times, you will see a little purse or bag that is there for you to put valuables in. Use it to put your "valuables" in and carry that with you to other areas of the spa. You may go to a sauna, hot-tub, shower, or table-shower. Since you won't have pockets, look for the little bag and carry it with you. If they don't have one, you can ask for one. In some places, you may just stay in the room you were brought into the entire time (no shower). In this case, you will be able to keep an eye on your things. If you are leaving the room and are worried, look for something to carry your valuables in. NOTE: Having your things in the little bag is a neat clue to the girl that you have done this before.
Generally you will find that Asian massage parlors are very honest, and you don't have to be as careful with your possessions as with 'other' massage parlor providers. Not trying to be racist here, but my experience (after 30+ years) in this hobby proves that to be true.
6) Bring your own condom. The "purse" is a great opportunity to place a condom where she can see it. If there is no purse, lay the condom on a table or somewhere that is in view. Usually, if they are providing extras, they will provide the condom. But showing the initiative to bringing your own indicates you are there for more than a massage.
7) Shower Etiquette. Some places offer a shower where you go in yourself and wash. If they don't offer, ask if there is one. Some places take you to a table-shower where they put you on a table and wash you. Some places, the girl will wash everything including your genitals. This is a good thing. Some places may ask you to wash your own genitals and I would advise you to do so if you want them to do anything later. It is not generally appropriate to ask for extras at this time. It also helps if you know where the shower is and lead her there instead of her leading you.
Revision 1: A mamasan once told me: Cops won't shower. The level of vulnerability is way too high. No badge. No gun. No wire. It's just too risky. I am sure there have been exceptions, but by taking a shower, you really help put them all at ease, not to mention your provider, who will just be happy you are clean.
8) Enjoy the Massage. It's part of the experience, and the girls usually give you a pretty good massage. If you have a stiff neck, sore legs, or something else, let her know so she can concentrate on those areas. You usually start out on your stomach and she rubs your back, legs, arms, etc. She may brush against you with her crotch, lift up her skirt and sit on your butt, and lean over brushing her body against you. Different places vary as far as touching her, but light brushing on her leg or arm aren't too intrusive and will generally let her know you are looking for extras. This isn't necessary and I usually don't "touch" her until later. This is still part of the "I'm not a cop" routine.
9) Lose the Towel. If there is a towel covering you, do everything possible to get it off of you. If it's covering your butt, roll around while she isn't near you so it gets out of position or falls to the floor. If she puts it back, lose it again. Don't be too obvious but at some point, the towel will most likely be tossed aside. If she is persistent, feel free to ask "no towel please" or something along those lines.
10) Become Aroused. Usually, the girl will try to get you aroused. She'll lighten up the touch a little around your buttocks and brush your skin gently. Shift yourself if you do become aroused to "let her know" that you need room to grow. If you aren't getting aroused, shift yourself anyway to "fake" getting aroused. This will let her know that your johnson is growing and you are getting ready. She may even reach underneath and lend a helping hand if you are lucky.
11) Wait to Flip Over. At some point, she'll ask you to flip over. When she does, simply flip over onto your back. You may or may not be aroused at this point. Either way, she'll know and she'll do everything she legally knows how to make sure you get aroused. This is a time to smile and enjoy her expertise.
12) The "Tip". The girl will usually ask if there is anything else she can do for you or if you are "OK". This is where you say what you want (HJ, BJ, FS) or make the HJ, BJ, FS "motions". She'll either say how much or just ask you for money. This is where knowing the going rate is handy. It's usually $40-$60 for HJ, $80-$100 for BJ, and $100-$140 for FS. Keep in mind that you can always negotiate and it may vary depending on where in the USA, or world, you are. She may leave for a minute or two or she may just start right there. The key to negotiating is getting a fair value. If you offer $20 for FS and she accepts, it will probably be the worst FS ever. If you overpay, then you ruin the great value of the AMP. So try not to stray too far above or below the going rate. I usually offer at the low end (I. E. $100 for FS) and say that's what I'm used to paying. Tell her what you want and a price you want to pay. She'll most likely be reluctant to give you pricing. One thing some guys recommend is leaving the tip out in advance. But, I know some guys here recommend strongly against it, but I have always found it works to strip down, lie down, and have the money sitting on the counter before the girl returns to the room. The only times I've ever had to haggle is when I didn't do that.
13) The Fun Part. When she returns (or starts) , it's generally acceptable that you can now touch her. She may or may not like you to and you have to respect her individual level of comfort. I've had girls get completely naked, sit between my legs, and give me a HJ as well as one that stands there fully clothed doing it. I can't predict what will happen but this will affect your decision to return or not return. If you are getting BJ or FS, she will most likely provide and put on the condom (which I recommend) and she'll start. If you brought your own, she may use that one. Again, if you want to be on top, do it doggie-style, or want her on top, they are generally open to how you want to do it.
14) Variations. If you are into DATY or other things, be up front with it. I've done DATY on a number of girls and some get into it and some don't. Some enjoy when you touch and finger them and some don't. Some will let you massage them and some won't. I've never looked for Anal so I can't give advice on that. Some places will only give HJ. So be aware and look for advice in your local forums.
15) Happy Ending. After the ending, she'll usually clean you up or get rid of the condom if there was one used. Sometimes, a hot towel, a beverage, and even mouthwash are provided. If you paid for an hour and you finish early, you may or may not get the full time limit. Some girls will continue the massage, some will tell you to get dressed. This is another area where different places differ greatly. If you feel cheated out of your time, feel free to express your opinion.
16) Be Polite. I use this motto in life, but the providers are people just like you and me, and they like being treated with respect. During the massage, try giving out a compliment such as "that feels nice" or "your hands are so soft" instead of something like "you have nice tits" or "I can't wait to f*k you". I find that being nice goes a lot farther than acting like an ass. Talk to them like you'd talk to a new friend.
17) Learn the Language. If you can learn Korean / Chinese / etc, you will most likely have an easier time communicating what you want in an AMP. The most difficult part is telling them what you want or trying to listen to their broken english. You'll most likely find yourself in a vulnerable position making the "BJ" motion followed by a dollar amount. Learning their native tongue, or a few phrases, can improve your experience.
18) Post Your Experience. We don't need every detail, but posting in the city forum where the AMP / Spa is located will help everyone with certain details of locations and pricing and if anything beyond a massage happened. Price and extras vary from region to region. If you get ripped off at a place, tell us that too and we'll appreciate you "taking one for the team.
This is just based on my experience in AMPs over the last 30+ years, as well as some tips I've picked up from other hobby mongers. If you have some additional helpful hints, please add them to the list. It will help all of us who are in the 'hobby'.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PatricT; 1449725]I encounter ORIENT MASSAGE in backpage "
[url]http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/1-new-girls-new-styles-newm-a-nagemen-t-23/17516504[/url]
"
Any one got experience on STEAM & DRY SAUNA.
How is the service?
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Found a review for you.
[url]http://www.google.com/maps/place?ui=maps_mini&cid=10590936037339364622&q=Oriental[/url]+Acupressure+Massage&rlz=1Y1DADU_enUS482US482
Jon,
Did you get the info about lots of Nuru places in SD / LA and SF from here in USASG or somewhere else? Please let me know.
I'm going over to LA and SD in July and would like to find a good Nuru provider.
Thanks,
Dirty.
[QUOTE=Tempe Jon;1454109]From what I understand, there are lots and lots of them in California. I guess San Diego, San Francisco and Los Angeles have a lot of them. They are like the growing rage there. New York has a lot of them too. Unfortunately, they have not caught on here yet. Maybe it is because Phoenix does not have a large Japanese population?[/QUOTE]