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[QUOTE=Bob0324;4096831]FF has been posting frequently, you know that, he has to try and protect his agency. Once again, try to come up with juvenile insults to deflect from the truth.[/QUOTE]Agency. Nice! I've always wanted to try pimpin. Are you taking apps?
[QUOTE=EarlyCuyler;4097355]Yes, she is that person. I even mentioned that in a post a while back and didn't see her for a while because of it. If you are on a schedule, it can become annoying to deal with. . .like. . . REALLY annoying. It did become that way for people, including your ex hobbyist friend apparently. However, I guess not annoying enough to take her off his to do list completely.
You have a dog in this fight somehow. In a topic that has literally zero to do with you, you've put down her appearance (in a round-about-way) and been passive aggressive about her alleged substance abuse issues. Now, again in a post that has no obvious relevance to your life, you rehash an issue that people had with the way she scheduled herself. . . And that was mentioned many times by people who had experienced it. There was really nothing new to see here. Ten seconds of searching would have answered your "question" about whether she was or was not the provider that spent an inordinate amount of time in the bathroom, if in fact you were indeed curious about that..[/QUOTE]What you need to understand is that my name is on this stupid idiots websites bashing her and I've never once contacted her. This is why I'm involved in any kind of way. I want to know why this provider has my number stored in her spank bank. So before you decide I have some other motive now you'll understand why. I'm sorry but I have quite a few girlfriends in this hobby in Indy that I've contacted quite a bit but it's not her. I know the issues she's had because I'm friends with hobbyists and ex hobbyists that seem to know all the problems a lot of providers have and Discuss it like alot of guys do. You obviously take offense to my post or you wouldn't be spending as much time as you have defending her. That's fine that you like her. She conducts her business in a way that I don't and has involved herself in a tough lifestyle I don't participate in which is my reasons for not using her as a reference. And is the exact reason I don't understand why my number is on this bashing website. I know a lot of guys on that site but I haven't screwed the woman. I wished the woman the best and yes the lifestyle does ruin women's looks. Drug use in this business takes a very important role in my life because I know it all to well! I've seen too many providers being buried because of it which is why I'm happy to be attending training on the 16th so I can obtain and provide naloxone kits to providers in hope of preventing senseless overdoses. So if anyone knows a provider that could use a naloxone kit please reach out to me or any providers seeing this. It's important enough to me that I'll be setting up on the SW stroll passing them out.
If I may, I appreciate having the substance issues and quirky (a nice way of putting it) business practices tied to this crazy person's outing, because it serves as a reminder of what are actual potential red flags we should recognize BEFORE we end up being outed. Vixen Red has a long history of pointing out to mongers the red flags that are out there. I realize a lot of guys want to ignore them to get their daily poon, and that's your right, but if you sleep with a dog you might get fleas is kinda the point here.
Oh, and will Charlie Mushroom Head please raise your hand. I can't stop chuckling at that one.
[QUOTE=Mwdude;4098552]Vixen Red has a long history of pointing out to mongers the red flags that are out there.
[/QUOTE]Of this I have no doubt!
My issue with her posts is that she couched her "concern" in passive aggressive comments about another provider's appearance and that ridiculousl finger in the corner of the mouth and coy "Isn't that the one that. . . ?" *giggle giggle*. It gets under my skin when a provider puts down another provider. I know it happens all the time in private--I've been in the hobby since God was young--but in public, it's just shitty. She finally called her a "stupid idiot", so at some point, the nicey nice, I really care about her BS went away, and everyone got real.
But let's be honest here. We ALL know that providers (the good ones with staying power at least) keep phone numbers, names, and many times, specific notes about their clients. One of my ATF providers in Dallas has many numbers on her phone, along with notes about the person, their likes and dislikes, etc. It's killer when I show up at her place to find her dressed in a fishnet bodystocking and open toed heels, my favorite cocktail ready to go, and the knowledge that she will know just what I like to do during our appointments. Neither is it odd that a provider would have the phone number of another provider, like. . . not even a little bit odd. In fact, that would mean one thing and one thing only, that the provider checks references, which all well meaning hobbyists and providers are supportive of. (I mean, it's pretty easy to get VR's phone number ffs.) It's not odd either that a jealous bf would go through their gf's phone, sad and juvenile of course, but not unheard of. So even though it's a regrettable occurrence (I mentioned that my info was in her phone as well), none of it is THAT crazy. Which brings me back to my original point. Providers that bash other providers on public boards suck. Not a single "warning" was added to the conversation about Renee-gate by those posts . (You could replace "Renee" with "place any provider's name here", and I would still have the same opinion. My thoughts are neither Reene nor VR--aka Mother Theresa--specfic).
That being said MWDude, good points, and I couldn't agree more, about being reminded of what you give out. Even if the provider is good with keeping the information to herself, others--not just boyfriends but also uncles-- can and have gotten that type of info in the past. Burner numbers, first names only or fake names, and no social media info are important to maintaining one's anonymity. I too was surprised that Linkdn, FB, and Google account info was on that site. Even if you trust that provider, it's not outside of the realm of possibility that someone with ulterior motives could get their hands on that info.
Peace out.
[QUOTE=VixenRed;4098396]What you need to understand is that my name is on this stupid idiots websites bashing her and I've never once contacted her. This is why I'm involved in any kind of way. I want to know why this provider has my number stored in her spank bank. So before you decide I have some other motive now you'll understand why. I'm sorry but I have quite a few girlfriends in this hobby in Indy that I've contacted quite a bit but it's not her. I know the issues she's had because I'm friends with hobbyists and ex hobbyists that seem to know all the problems a lot of providers have and Discuss it like alot of guys do. You obviously take offense to my post or you wouldn't be spending as much time as you have defending her. That's fine that you like her. She conducts her business in a way that I don't and has involved herself in a tough lifestyle I don't participate in which is my reasons for not using her as a reference. And is the exact reason I don't understand why my number is on this bashing website. I know a lot of guys on that site but I haven't screwed the woman. I wished the woman the best and yes the lifestyle does ruin women's looks. Drug use in this business takes a very important role in my life because I know it all to well! I've seen too many providers being buried because of it which is why I'm happy to be attending training on the 16th so I can obtain and provide naloxone kits to providers in hope of preventing senseless overdoses. So if anyone knows a provider that could use a naloxone kit please reach out to me or any providers seeing this. It's important enough to me that I'll be setting up on the SW stroll passing them out.[/QUOTE]Naloxone (Narcan) kits can be obtained at a CVS pharmacy, not sure if all of the CVS's do this, I went to the one on Franklin and Brookville, just asked, the Pharmacist wrote a script and sold me 2 kits, no questions asked. It was $16 and change for 2 kits. They didn't act like they were doing anything extraordinary, so I assume you can do this at any CVS. I'll refrain from responding to the rest of the BS, we all know Vixen Red has her own problems that affect her looks and health.
[QUOTE=VixenRed;4098396]What you need to understand is that my name is on this stupid idiots websites bashing her and I've never once contacted her. This is why I'm involved in any kind of way. I want to know why this provider has my number stored in her spank bank.[/QUOTE]Are you really that dense? Anyone who knows anything about the hobby, even a noob would understand why a provider would have other providers numbers in their contact list. C'Mon. , not even you could be that stupid.
[QUOTE=Bob0324;4098695]Naloxone (Narcan) kits can be obtained at a CVS pharmacy, not sure if all of the CVS's do this, I went to the one on Franklin and Brookville, just asked, the Pharmacist wrote a script and sold me 2 kits, no questions asked. It was $16 and change for 2 kits. They didn't act like they were doing anything extraordinary, so I assume you can do this at any CVS. I'll refrain from responding to the rest of the BS, we all know Vixen Red has her own problems that affect her looks and health.[/QUOTE]LMAO PC of course you can buy it from CVS without any training because you've already taught every heroin addict in town how to set up the rig and shoot!
That's what you do once you have met them away from your place and decided they are good candidates to take back to your candy store.
Vixen's only health problems are caused by her demons of the past which are no longer present but unfortunately still having there lasting effect. Her issues will eventually fade away unlike your issues of a different sort that will never go away. Even though the effort may be futile, she has the hope of helping people currently going thru what she went thru for many years unlike you who assists ladies further down the path.
Senior members I know and trust can PM for the known facts.
Indy Guy.
[QUOTE=IndyGuy123;4099611]LMAO PC of course you can buy it from CVS without any training because you've already taught every heroin addict in town how to set up the rig and shoot!
That's what you do once you have met them away from your place and decided they are good candidates to take back to your candy store.
Vixen's only health problems are caused by her demons of the past which are no longer present but unfortunately still having there lasting effect. Her issues will eventually fade away unlike your issues of a different sort that will never go away. Even though the effort may be futile, she has the hope of helping people currently going thru what she went thru for many years unlike you who assists ladies further down the path.
Senior members I know and trust can PM for the known facts.
Indy Guy.[/QUOTE]You're as delusional as that fat freak you white night for, I have proof of what I say, that's facts.
[QUOTE=Bob0324;4099658]You're as delusional as that fat freak you white night for, I have proof of what I say, that's facts.[/QUOTE]Well that freak has far more mongers wanting to see her than she will see so apparently she must be doing something right. The difference is most guys do not insist on only seeing addicts that crave getting into your shop.
Any "facts" you ever have are always muddled with questions and lack of real evidence. Opinions may not always be same but few to none on here have ever disputed the factuality of what I say. I would love to openly share the facts I have but would cause issues for some and some would cause A2 to ban me.
Just like on here, in real life people even think you are a creep. I'll never forget sitting at BBF and having multiple strippers tell me how much of a creep you were and even they wanted nothing to do with you.
Indy Guy.
[QUOTE=IndyGuy123;4099965]Well that freak has far more mongers wanting to see her than she will see so apparently she must be doing something right. The difference is most guys do not insist on only seeing addicts that crave getting into your shop.
I'll never forget sitting at BBF and having multiple strippers tell me how much of a creep you were and even they wanted nothing to do with you.
Indy Guy.[/QUOTE]Or you're lying, I sat at your table at BFF until you left, no strippers talked to you. After you left I got 2 ladies numbers. I have a witness for this. You keep saying shit that's totally not true, perhaps it's envy or something.
[QUOTE=IndyGuy123;4099965]Well that freak has far more mongers wanting to see her than she will see so apparently she must be doing something right. The difference is most guys do not insist on only seeing addicts that crave getting into your shop.
Any "facts" you ever have are always muddled with questions and lack of real evidence. Opinions may not always be same but few to none on here have ever disputed the factuality of what I say. I would love to openly share the facts I have but would cause issues for some and some would cause A2 to ban me.
Just like on here, in real life people even think you are a creep. I'll never forget sitting at BBF and having multiple strippers tell me how much of a creep you were and even they wanted nothing to do with you.
Indy Guy.[/QUOTE]You have no facts, zero. You guys are on a smear campaign because I have facts and proof. You don't have shit but lies.
[QUOTE=Bob0324;4100036]Or you're lying, I sat at your table at BFF until you left, no strippers talked to you. After you left I got 2 ladies numbers. I have a witness for this. You keep saying shit that's totally not true, perhaps it's envy or something.[/QUOTE]Perhaps we have identified your problem. Your mind is clearly lost. You were the last one to arrive and the first to leave and you have no witnesses of anything because every single person that was there can't stand your ass.
[QUOTE=Bob0324;4100040]You have no facts, zero. You guys are on a smear campaign because I have facts and proof. You don't have shit but lies.[/QUOTE]
OMG! You are so right! There is an Indiana-wide smear campaign of guys dead set on smearing you just for the absolute fun of it. Forget Indiana-wide. Make it world wide because even A2 has repeatedly called you an asshole or similar.
Indy Guy.
[QUOTE=IndyGuy123;4100579]Perhaps we have identified your problem. Your mind is clearly lost. You were the last one to arrive and the first to leave and you have no witnesses of anything because every single person that was there can't stand your ass.
Indy Guy.[/QUOTE]I was the last to arrive, not the last to leave, all 4 of you left way before me. Yes and I know all 4 of you can't stand me because the truth and facts don't serve your purposes. After you left I got a couple numbers, spent most of the time out back in the smoking area. Facts, you can only fabricate.
[QUOTE=Bob0324;4100036]Or you're lying, I sat at your table at BFF until you left, no strippers talked to you. After you left I got 2 ladies numbers. I have a witness for this. You keep saying shit that's totally not true, perhaps it's envy or something.[/QUOTE]You sir are a bold face liar! I suppose myself, IG123, Freckle Freak, Sarah, Kit Kat & Theo Guardian. Hell maybe even the dancer Rose all remember incorrectly on what happened that evening. The most you possibly did was talk to us for a moment and sat your happy self against a wall, two rows of seats behind us, and watched the back of our heads and NOT ONE dancer went near you during the time we were there. What the hell are you trying to gain from this Bob? We weren't cool enough for you and all the ladies at the table thighs touched one another so you certainly did not sit at our table!
[blue]I'm pretty sure it's bald faced as in without a beard to hide behind.
Both are correct but they mean different things.
A2[/blue]
[QUOTE=Bob0324;4100036]Or you're lying, I sat at your table at BFF until you left, no strippers talked to you. After you left I got 2 ladies numbers. I have a witness for this. You keep saying shit that's totally not true, perhaps it's envy or something.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=IndyGuy123;4099965]Just like on here, in real life people even think you are a creep. I'll never forget sitting at BBF and having multiple strippers tell me how much of a creep you were and even they wanted nothing to do with you.[/QUOTE]I don't give a shit about which of you has the bigger dick, how many #'s who has or who's the bigger creep. I sat at that table that night. IG, VR, 2 other ladies and myself. Bob stopped by for a bit and then went off to sit at a table near the back stage. As for what stripper said to who about what, don't know, don't care.