The Woodshed

I use prepaid cards for Internet purchases of conventional items.

I would not ever use a card with a provider or provider service.

For many years I used a Walmart prepaid Visa card but I had to stop because they now require a physical address and social security number. A fake SS number would work but providing a physical address is unavoidable. Walmart quit accepting a PO Box number last year.

I researched some of the prepaid cards available at the drug stores and 7-Eleven type stores. They have a very high monthly fees, between $7 and $12. They ask for your Social Security number and address when you activate the card.

It seems that the ability to be truly anonymous with prepaid cards has faded.

[QUOTE=PlayTiem;4390353]I would say the only exception is a prepaid card where you don't care if you lose all the money on it and have to literally throw the card away.

But I haven't looked into those and whether you can buy one for cash like you can burner phones, with no connection to the rest of your life.

AND, I've dealt with a few agencies that I would trust to pre-pay, but only a few, and none of them are in Jax, and that would only be after a personal guarantee from the proprietor (that I believed) that I wouldn't have to pay if I wasn't happy with the services. Would I extend that level of trust to an ad from an unbelievably (literally) hot picture on the internet? Absolutely not.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AMnnos;4377864]Why would one want to link their bank account or their CC info to anything related to this hobby? I'm aware that theres sites that ask for this type of info. Wouldn't it be wiser to utilize a pre-paid card such as a Green Dot or Vanilla card? Fill it as needed. My take on this is, if a site continues to charge even after one decided to stop their subscription or if theres some sort of hacking, gawd forbid, at least it's not coming from either one of ones personal source. Just sayin.[/QUOTE]I would think that pre-paid was the way to go for this hobby if one is required to use a card (for a site). A site is one thing, but an independent provider asking payment by plastic, I would just cut comms or tell her to go fuck herself.

[QUOTE=FloridaBiker;4390601]I use prepaid cards for Internet purchases of conventional items.

I would not ever use a card with a provider or provider service.

For many years I used a Walmart prepaid Visa card but I had to stop because they now require a physical address and social security number. A fake SS number would work but providing a physical address is unavoidable. Walmart quit accepting a PO Box number last year.

I researched some of the prepaid cards available at the drug stores and 7-Eleven type stores. They have a very high monthly fees, between $7 and $12. They ask for your Social Security number and address when you activate the card.

It seems that the ability to be truly anonymous with prepaid cards has faded.[/QUOTE]Nothing illegal about getting a cash advance sent to a friend but you want to send it through paypal, venmo or cashapp.

[QUOTE=BudGreen;4391333]Nothing illegal about getting a cash advance sent to a friend but you want to send it through paypal, venmo or cashapp.[/QUOTE]I don't question your view on legality.

It is a trail that I would not want to leave if I do it that way.

[QUOTE=FloridaBiker;4390601]I use prepaid cards for Internet purchases of conventional items.

I would not ever use a card with a provider or provider service.

For many years I used a Walmart prepaid Visa card but I had to stop because they now require a physical address and social security number. A fake SS number would work but providing a physical address is unavoidable. Walmart quit accepting a PO Box number last year.

I researched some of the prepaid cards available at the drug stores and 7-Eleven type stores. They have a very high monthly fees, between $7 and $12. They ask for your Social Security number and address when you activate the card.

It seems that the ability to be truly anonymous with prepaid cards has faded.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. I thought it might be that way now. Question, though: If they don't require an I'd, how can they verify that you gave the correct address? Or do they require I'd with the SSN?

[QUOTE=PlayTiem;4395502]Thanks for the info. I thought it might be that way now. Question, though: If they don't require an I'd, how can they verify that you gave the correct address? Or do they require I'd with the SSN?[/QUOTE]Wally World had my store bought card expire after 2 weeks. They mailed me a real card with name and expiry date. I assume the others work similarly.

[QUOTE=FloridaBiker;4397271]Wally World had my store bought card expire after 2 weeks. They mailed me a real card with name and expiry date. I assume the others work similarly.[/QUOTE]Ok. Well, until they outlaw it, I guess I'll be sticking with cash!

[QUOTE=YDiner_Otown;4372186]They go lower, remember it's not what you say, but how you say it.[/QUOTE]And how do you say it? I see a lot of "no negotiating" on the ads these days. I just say beyond my budget.

[QUOTE=YDiner_Otown;4438677]And how do you say it? I see a lot of "no negotiating" on the ads these days. I just say beyond my budget.[/QUOTE]Most of these providers are off the streets. They rarely have a line up of perps coming there way. So if they hit you with the "my rates are bla bla bla" hit them with the "I'm close to where you at and only got so-and-so" . Chances are they not going to turn you down, and if they do who cares? If you want to see her that bad if she turns ya down, just use a different number. Haggle. Besides the well reviewed I only see a half a handful of providers who are worth their asking price. A few.

[QUOTE=NeckAuthority;4440014]Most of these providers are off the streets. They rarely have a line up of perps coming there way. So if they hit you with the "my rates are bla bla bla" hit them with the "I'm close to where you at and only got so-and-so" . Chances are they not going to turn you down, and if they do who cares? If you want to see her that bad if she turns ya down, just use a different number. Haggle. Besides the well reviewed I only see a half a handful of providers who are worth their asking price. A few.[/QUOTE]So, this is a pretty scummy thing to do, but I've sent providers low ball offers from 3 numbers, then send a reasonable but still discounted offer from a fourth all in a quick succession.

I have a pretty high success rate with that fourth number. I've even had 1 provider do half her hh rate for me.

[QUOTE=Getcha;4440554]So, this is a pretty scummy thing to do, but I've sent providers low ball offers from 3 numbers, then send a reasonable but still discounted offer from a fourth all in a quick succession.

I have a pretty high success rate with that fourth number. I've even had 1 provider do half her hh rate for me.[/QUOTE]Genius! It's business.

[QUOTE=JoeGannOnLct;4450752]Her ad says she's 19 which is above the legal age so I don't know what the issue is here. She even verified to me that she was 19. You guys are speculating and spreading misinformation.[/QUOTE]First off, girls can say anything in their ad. They can advertise giving a dream of a life time but in the end it's nothing but drama and bullshit.They can use questionable pictures and they fuckin DO. You know, "misinformation". Shit, look at all the fuckin filters being used.

TallBear has been on this site for a while and has plenty of credibility. He wasnt trying to do any of us a disservice. He was merely helping fellow Mongers out. He announced what he believed to be a girl that could've put any of us on vacation for a very long time. Is he wrong? I dont know, but I'll believe him before I go take that chance. I don't know about you, but I appreciated his warning. How about explaining how she "verified to you" she was 19yo. Did she actually show you her driver's license? Her birth certificate? Her voters card? That would probably help ease the mind of alot of us. How about coming out with a little more tact instead of accusations of members posting bad info. Feel free taking one for the team and proving us wrong. And thanks for siding with a hooker first.

[QUOTE=AMnnos;4451073]First off, girls can say anything in their ad. They can advertise giving a dream of a life time but in the end it's nothing but drama and bullshit.They can use questionable pictures and they fuckin DO. You know, "misinformation". Shit, look at all the fuckin filters being used.

TallBear has been on this site for a while and has plenty of credibility. He wasnt trying to do any of us a disservice. He was merely helping fellow Mongers out. He announced what he believed to be a girl that could've put any of us on vacation for a very long time. Is he wrong? I dont know, but I'll believe him before I go take that chance. I don't know about you, but I appreciated his warning. How about explaining how she "verified to you" she was 19yo. Did she actually show you her driver's license? Her birth certificate? Her voters card? That would probably help ease the mind of alot of us. How about coming out with a little more tact instead of accusations of members posting bad info. Feel free taking one for the team and proving us wrong. And thanks for siding with a hooker first.[/QUOTE]Everything my brother says are words to the wise. Just one small correction: it was Quebec, another longtime contributor with lots of cred (like AMnnos himself), and not yours truly who expressed his concerns about the young woman's, uh, maturity.

I too would be interested to know how she verified her information, Joe. It does seem unlikely that anyone would get a fake driver's license showing any age under 21. So you do have that in your favor.

But what this inquiring mind wants to know is: if you were there in person for her to show you something, did you hit that?

Maybe you should not answer that. Not sure I should even ask. Should we just infer?

[QUOTE=TallBear;4451154]Everything my brother says are words to the wise. Just one small correction: it was Quebec, another longtime contributor with lots of cred (like AMnnos himself), and not yours truly who expressed his concerns about the young woman's, uh, maturity.

I too would be interested to know how she verified her information, Joe. It does seem unlikely that anyone would get a fake driver's license showing any age under 21. So you do have that in your favor.

But what this inquiring mind wants to know is: if you were there in person for her to show you something, did you hit that?

Maybe you should not answer that. Not sure I should even ask. Should we just infer?[/QUOTE]He was the original poster.

My comment still stands about your credibility as well. Read the forum long enough and one will know who's legit and who's full of shit.

Guess I made the mistake of mixing up handles because I was irritated by the way Mr Out-of--the-Blue came across with his comment which was more of an attack than a tactful reply calling Mongers a liar. He also didn't add anything to back his comment. All and all his post just rubbed me wrong.

Oh well, Peace.

Also, flyers from Daytona.