BBFS Providers Manhattan

[QUOTE=ElmosHood;6335801]The Japanese invasion ruined everything with their la carte menu style. The prices are getting ridiculous. In addition to the price inflation, the way they make us order extras makes everything feel even more transactional. The Japanese girls are the most expensive and usually the worst service compared to the Chinese and Koreans. Almost all of them don't dfk well, a lot are not very hygienic, no rimming, very little enthusiasm. The only thing they really got going for them is that most are willing to be our nakadashi fuck dolls for an exorbitant amount of money. The GFE experience that the Chinese and Korean girls worked years to establish in this industry is harder and harder to find now. I hope the way that these Japanese girls do things don't rub off on the Chinese and Koreans, but I'm already starting to see the sands shifting.[/QUOTE]LOL, a lot of you guys willed it into existence by paying up. They wouldn't be charging for it openly if it wasn't in demand.

Suzu Chan PPC / WSD (crazy small spinner girl) is $100 BBFS.

Tadai went to NYCSE. I know NYCSE seems to set standard at $200 but I think Tadai will go for $100 back when she was at PPC / WSD. She's once of the best spinners with big tits. (relatively speaking).

Again, if you got it for free from these girls, awesome! Share your ways or it's not helping us bastards who can't get it for free.

Anyone know Kisara 10 ten. Pictures look hot but I wonder if she'll ask for a lot for BBFS.

[QUOTE=PokerBrah;6334324]1. Keep in mind this is what the girls are asking for. It doesn't mean I'm willing to pay it.

2. Of course some of you can say you can get them to do it for free. Please name names or it's unless info if we're not as charming or not as handsome or not as connected as you.

3. I'm just sharing what the girl is looking for. Some will negotiate, some won't (ie: if you're just a fat slob that they don't find attractive) vs. Some handsome boy that can get free BBFS from any girl they see as some of you keep telling us. Good for you.

Risa PPC - $100 cum outside, $200 cip (literally written on an envelope LOL).

Suna PPC - $200 cum outside (yes, I was like WTF.), CIP is the same $200. Idk why some girls ask the same price for cum outside. Makes no fucking sense.

Omochi NYCSE - $200 cum outside (yes. WTF Again), CIP is the same $200. Very hard lined on this.

Mami 10 Ten - $100 cum outside possible, $200 CIP.

Amina 10 Ten - $100 cum outside possible, $200 CIP.

Dream Dream You. Many girls will do it for $100 CIP.

Xoxo Meiko - $100 cum outside possible but will open with $200.

Jamie DD at Xoxo. Heard some have gotten free CIP but some paid $100. Don't recall hearing $200 but she's YMMV on free bb is what I heard from mongers.

Michelle Metrogirls - $100 now reported for CIP. Used to never offer it at PH but I guess she needs to compete as business is low and $100 could help her draw some clients.

Yuri Metrogirls. I don't recall her every asking BBFS $ as a standard. Doesn't offer it to everyone but if she does, it's often free but it's not on the menu so don't be pissy if she doesn't like you enough to do a free BBFS with your or if she denies your ass.

NYAF. I've heard a couple of girls do it for free but since I'm told it's very selective, pointless to share since most will simply be deny free CIP.

Sometimes I've tried to reason with them saying if I am just doing 30 min why is it the same BBFS asking price if I do an hour. They just shrug sometimes LOL.

Anyway, I believe this is most helpful to set your expectations of what you may be ask and practice you game to get it lower or free but don't go in believe you will be like the handsome boys that says they get it for free. You (I know I'm not) are not as lucky like they are.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PokerBrah;6338053]Suzu Chan PPC / WSD (crazy small spinner girl) is $100 BBFS.

Tadai went to NYCSE. I know NYCSE seems to set standard at $200 but I think Tadai will go for $100 back when she was at PPC / WSD. She's once of the best spinners with big tits. (relatively speaking).

Again, if you got it for free from these girls, awesome! Share your ways or it's not helping us bastards who can't get it for free.

Anyone know Kisara 10 ten. Pictures look hot but I wonder if she'll ask for a lot for BBFS.[/QUOTE]Kisara's pics do look hot, I would like to know as well! I will have to verify at every location in midtown.

Sorry to piggy back on your post but when I contact NYAF can I ask MMS which girls are BBFS? I know it's big bucks but I want to try a double BBFS if possible and I've been reading alot of good review on Helen but it seems like every girl there is solid.

[QUOTE=RazGrizace00;6338056]Kisara's pics do look hot, I would like to know as well! I will have to verify at every location in midtown.

Sorry to piggy back on your post but when I contact NYAF can I ask MMS which girls are BBFS? I know it's big bucks but I want to try a double BBFS if possible and I've been reading alot of good review on Helen but it seems like every girl there is solid.[/QUOTE]Yes, you can ask the mms. It's the accepted norm for BBFS upgrade now.

So last night I decided I wanted to treat myself so I decided to drive out I went to 4 different spa they were all book the first one was new rainbow it was back to back people. Calling ringing the bell I was in the room naked for 30 min I finally said fu** it got dress I open the door and mms comes tell me to wait a little longer I tell her I come back some other time as I was going out more people rang the bell had to hide in the bathroom texted another place nyfa and it was the same story I got there and I had to wait for the girl as she was getting her back blown her told mms I wait in the room I left texted xoxo told me they were book seriously? Was going to cut my lost I texted metro to my surprise all the girls were available mms gave me Luca new girl? Or maybe she been around anyways got here girl introduce herself some small tease DFK in the shower ask me if I wanted a standing or laying down ts took the laying down she started licking my ear kissing on my back then gave me a rim job finally told me to flip around as she made her to a BBJ started kissing me all around then came up and some more DFK got rock hard as she tease me slipping it in she put the tip in and I try to take over she told me let go back to the room back in the room she takes a condom out in my head I'm like dam do some DATY 69 she tell me she want me inside her have her on cg she puts the cover on but stops at a point & ask me if I wanted with condom or no I told her no so she rips it off and off we go some doggy as I slap her ass did a couple more position finally fill her inside up with a huge load she ask me if I wanted a quick shower came back to the room she never ask me for $$ for extra I did tip her.

[QUOTE=Jincs89;6338561]So last night I decided I wanted to treat myself so I decided to drive out I went to 4 different spa they were all book the first one was new rainbow it was back to back people. Calling ringing the bell I was in the room naked for 30 min I finally said fu** it got dress I open the door and mms comes tell me to wait a little longer I tell her I come back some other time as I was going out more people rang the bell had to hide in the bathroom texted another place nyfa and it was the same story I got there and I had to wait for the girl as she was getting her back blown her told mms I wait in the room I left texted xoxo told me they were book seriously? Was going to cut my lost I texted metro to my surprise all the girls were available mms gave me Luca new girl? Or maybe she been around anyways got here girl introduce herself some small tease DFK in the shower ask me if I wanted a standing or laying down ts took the laying down she started licking my ear kissing on my back then gave me a rim job finally told me to flip around as she made her to a BBJ started kissing me all around then came up and some more DFK got rock hard as she tease me slipping it in she put the tip in and I try to take over she told me let go back to the room back in the room she takes a condom out in my head I'm like dam do some DATY 69 she tell me she want me inside her have her on cg she puts the cover on but stops at a point & ask me if I wanted with condom or no I told her no so she rips it off and off we go some doggy as I slap her ass did a couple more position finally fill her inside up with a huge load she ask me if I wanted a quick shower came back to the room she never ask me for $$ for extra I did tip her.[/QUOTE]What was the damage?

[QUOTE=Jincs89;6338561]So last night I decided I wanted to treat myself so I decided to drive out I went to 4 different spa they were all book the first one was new rainbow it was back to back people. Calling ringing the bell I was in the room naked for 30 min I finally said fu** it got dress I open the door and mms comes tell me to wait a little longer I tell her I come back some other time as I was going out more people rang the bell had to hide in the bathroom texted another place nyfa and it was the same story I got there and I had to wait for the girl as she was getting her back blown her told mms I wait in the room I left texted xoxo told me they were book seriously? Was going to cut my lost I texted metro to my surprise all the girls were available mms gave me Luca new girl? Or maybe she been around anyways got here girl introduce herself some small tease DFK in the shower ask me if I wanted a standing or laying down ts took the laying down she started licking my ear kissing on my back then gave me a rim job finally told me to flip around as she made her to a BBJ started kissing me all around then came up and some more DFK got rock hard as she tease me slipping it in she put the tip in and I try to take over she told me let go back to the room back in the room she takes a condom out in my head I'm like dam do some DATY 69 she tell me she want me inside her have her on cg she puts the cover on but stops at a point & ask me if I wanted with condom or no I told her no so she rips it off and off we go some doggy as I slap her ass did a couple more position finally fill her inside up with a huge load she ask me if I wanted a quick shower came back to the room she never ask me for $$ for extra I did tip her.[/QUOTE]"wait for the girl as she was getting her back blown" What do you mean? Was she getting fucked in her ass?

[QUOTE=Anhoang1;6339576]What was the damage?[/QUOTE]So luca offered BBFS with no upcharges? LOL.

[QUOTE=IronClad999;6339937]So luca offered BBFS with no upcharges? LOL.[/QUOTE]LOL nice Train is coming for Luca. If confirmed I will add this to the scouting report.

[QUOTE=PokerBrah;6339985]LOL nice Train is coming for Luca. If confirmed I will add this to the scouting report.[/QUOTE]Just texted mms to confirm, and she denied raws for lucas LOL. Well sht man LOL.

[QUOTE=IronClad999;6340014]Just texted mms to confirm, and she denied raws for lucas LOL. Well sht man LOL.[/QUOTE]Could be Luca doing it without mms knowledge? Just assuming. 'because I am desperate. LOL.

[QUOTE=Anhoang1;6339576]What was the damage?[/QUOTE]3.5 $40 tip.

[QUOTE=IronClad999;6340014]Just texted mms to confirm, and she denied raws for lucas LOL. Well sht man LOL.[/QUOTE]Guys it's common sense why would you ask mms if the girl offers BBFS there are post here saying just ask the girl not the mms she didn't charge me it's my first time seeing this girl same goes for Yuri if she likes you I guess you get BBFS I'm just sharing my experience since I don't really post here much I be honest I keep some stuff to myself but a lot of the post have help with others girl I wanted to see and not waste money if they offer BBFS or not talk to her act nice don't just go there demanding there are a lot of girls that offer BBFS they just don't promote it b / c this will happen.

[QUOTE=Theme888;6339680]"wait for the girl as she was getting her back blown" What do you mean? Was she getting fucked in her ass?[/QUOTE]It just a phrase I use blowing her back / getting fu** getting destroyed etc.

[QUOTE=Jincs89;6340216]Guys it's common sense why would you ask mms if the girl offers BBFS there are post here saying just ask the girl not the mms she didn't charge me it's my first time seeing this girl same goes for Yuri if she likes you I guess you get BBFS I'm just sharing my experience since I don't really post here much I be honest I keep some stuff to myself but a lot of the post have help with others girl I wanted to see and not waste money if they offer BBFS or not talk to her act nice don't just go there demanding there are a lot of girls that offer BBFS they just don't promote it b / c this will happen.[/QUOTE]That's why we can't have nice things smh. Guess Luca is going to deny it from now on to not get in trouble with the house.

[QUOTE=PokerBrah;6338053]Anyone know Kisara 10 ten. Pictures look hot but I wonder if she'll ask for a lot for BBFS.[/QUOTE]The website says 200 extra but she has been asking 300 from guys in person. Her other reviews have stated that she is dead fish not worth the house fee forget about the extras.

Guys we're making it too easy for these lazy bitches. Time to stop asking for extras. Start seeing non BBFS friendly places. Its only once the money train stops they'll straighten up.

[QUOTE=Jincs89;6340216]Guys it's common sense why would you ask mms if the girl offers BBFS there are post here saying just ask the girl not the mms she didn't charge me it's my first time seeing this girl same goes for Yuri if she likes you I guess you get BBFS I'm just sharing my experience since I don't really post here much I be honest I keep some stuff to myself but a lot of the post have help with others girl I wanted to see and not waste money if they offer BBFS or not talk to her act nice don't just go there demanding there are a lot of girls that offer BBFS they just don't promote it b / c this will happen.[/QUOTE]Tbh, its not really common sense cas mms stated other girls does offer raws, except kiwi and lucas. If you really got it good for you. most of them do offer it, but they either demand huge upcharge or tries to emphasize the impression no bbfs available so clients won't press it. But it's all about competition cas even michelle that used to offer gfe only, but now opens up her menu which reflects the market condition. Thanks for the info.

[QUOTE=BillyCunn;6340532]That's why we can't have nice things smh. Guess Luca is going to deny it from now on to not get in trouble with the house.[/QUOTE]The girls are not dumb; they have their own social circle among their ranks. It's all competition, they compete and market against each other so it's not completely impossible, but as the old saying; "ALL GIRLS OFFER BBFS". It's just a dumb cash cow game in this hobby; these girls are all waiting for super richards to load up their jar with green stacks of benjamins so they can start counting them as a hobby in response to us "hobbying". Have had exp at DDY where the girls wouldn't budge even for 1 k+ on raws excluding HF so base price was 3. 2, then 1 k on top didn't work. After flipping through more switch buttons on the ATM and crack the bank, those digits turned out to be over 3 k+ for per hr session; the girls finally acknowledged with big smiles like cheerleaders in sexy bikinis. And ironically those girls were very solid strict GFE ONLY, but the ATM spoke the truth behind their poker face.

P.S.: Above is from real experience and can be backed up with solid concrete evidence. No questions.

[QUOTE=KettleCY1;6340661]The website says 200 extra but she has been asking 300 from guys in person. Her other reviews have stated that she is dead fish not worth the house fee forget about the extras.

Guys we're making it too easy for these lazy bitches. Time to stop asking for extras. Start seeing non BBFS friendly places. Its only once the money train stops they'll straighten up.[/QUOTE]Once they start seeing someone paying 2-3 ben+ they going to start jacking it up to 4 or even 5 soon. It's a monopoly pool here; those girls all GPS heavy in conjunction with the market economy. And they want to stick with the give less want more protocol cas they got the looks and body. Too many spoilage for them lately man. Usually I just visit ATFs til these ladies shape up their game. Thanks for bringing it up man.

Unfortunately it's not that easy. If it was this easy we would not see BASE prices going up from 180/280 pre-covid to now $240/360 and now sometimes 300/500 just for CFS.

Someone always got more bank and don't care because it's still cheaper than escorts.

There is always free bb out there, harder to find on young cute girls, easier to find on older and more desperate ladies. It is just basic market dynamics and I wish it as simple as just a few of us not going to spas to get the price lowered! I wish!

[QUOTE=IronClad999;6341093]Once they start seeing someone paying 2-3 ben+ they going to start jacking it up to 4 or even 5 soon. It's a monopoly pool here; those girls all GPS heavy in conjunction with the market economy. And they want to stick with the give less want more protocol cas they got the looks and body. Too many spoilage for them lately man. Usually I just visit ATFs til these ladies shape up their game. Thanks for bringing it up man.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PokerBrah;6341196]Unfortunately it's not that easy. If it was this easy we would not see BASE prices going up from 180/280 pre-covid to now $240/360 and now sometimes 300/500 just for CFS.

Someone always got more bank and don't care because it's still cheaper than escorts.

There is always free bb out there, harder to find on young cute girls, easier to find on older and more desperate ladies. It is just basic market dynamics and I wish it as simple as just a few of us not going to spas to get the price lowered! I wish![/QUOTE]I agree, as much as I'm preaching about trying to manipulate the market it's not a simple thing. What we can do though is promote other places on the boards to devirt some of the attention. Right now on all the boards it seems like people only talk about a handful of places and most have at least one BBFS friendly girl that is the main focus of discussion. That on our end needs to stop. There are still relatively well priced places that do 8 hr house fee plus whatever tip you negotiate. I was just at K10 the other week and paid 240 hr. It was a more restrained experience and all things covered. But for 240 all in I wasn't complaining. That rate level everyone thought had disappeared. It was 1000% better experience than whatever guys where getting from Kisara at 10 ten.

[QUOTE=KettleCY1;6341242]I was just at K10 the other week and paid 240 hr. It was a more restrained experience and all things covered. But for 240 all in I wasn't complaining. That rate level everyone thought had disappeared. It was 1000% better experience than whatever guys where getting from Kisara at 10 ten.[/QUOTE]Not to say that everyone at that price range is dynamite, but there are definitely some good deals out there if you're okay with covered service.

[QUOTE=PokerBrah;6341196]Unfortunately it's not that easy. If it was this easy we would not see BASE prices going up from 180/280 pre-covid to now $240/360 and now sometimes 300/500 just for CFS.

Someone always got more bank and don't care because it's still cheaper than escorts.

There is always free bb out there, harder to find on young cute girls, easier to find on older and more desperate ladies. It is just basic market dynamics and I wish it as simple as just a few of us not going to spas to get the price lowered! I wish![/QUOTE]There is a lot of behind the scenes bullshit involved with pricing. For starters, what makes every girl on any given Spa's roster all worth the same price?

I've told mms and bookers before that certain girls are not worth the same price other girls are getting. She agreed with me. She said the problem is if most the girls are 360 and she has another girl at 300 or 320 because no one wants to pay it, that girl starts getting more guest than the higher priced girls, and then the higher priced girls get pissed and threaten to leave. Another problem is there are plenty of girls that offer BBFS for free or at a lower price than other girls they work with. When the girls asking 100 for BBFS and another 100 for cip find out a girl they work with is doing it for less or even for free, the other girls get pissed and then start bullying the girl to charge for it, because it hurts their business.

There is one simple solution to the price gouging that is going on. Just don't fucking pay it, or go to another spa or girl that charges less. It doesn't take too many slow days for a girl or a spa to wake up and bring her prices down.

More well known places that advertised PSE / BBFS. I don't typically go for escorts or old woman that are 40+ so I don't bother tracking to see who I should try and fuck.

1. Keep in mind this is what the girls are asking for. It doesn't mean I'm willing to pay it.

2. Of course some of you can say you can get them to do it for free. Please name names or it's unless info if we're not as charming or not as handsome or not as connected as you.

3. I'm just sharing what the girl is looking for. Some will negotiate, some won't (ie: if you're just a fat slob that they don't find attractive) vs. Some handsome boy that can get free BBFS from any girl they see as some of you keep telling us. Good for you.

Anyway, I believe this is most helpful to set your expectations of what you may be ask and practice you game to get it lower or free but don't go in believe you will be like the handsome boys that says they get it for free. You (I know I'm not) are not as lucky like they are.

Newest info on 2/18.

Mayumi xoxogirls - $200 cum outside of inside (she's hot as fuck from the pictures).

Kisara 10 tenclub. Someone said she went higher than spa norm and asked for $300 (I know right. WTF LOL).

Rinka 10 tenclub. I read someone that she did it for $100 but normal is $200. Just means she's negotiable or maybe it was a more handsome fella.

Toy-Toy NYCSE. No idea yet since she's brand new but I assume $200 since she's at this place.

Yukiko NYCSE. Probably $200 but since her price is $220 30 min $320 60 min, she may be willing to try harder you know what I'm saying?

Sayaka NYCSE. I assume she's $200 since that's NYCSE standard it seems, not sure if negotiable, there is like no reviews for some of these girls at all.

Luca at Metrogirls. Someone got it freebie but then someone asked mms, she said no raw. Oops. Note if their website isn't advertising raw or "extra services" then you probably shouldn't ask the mamasan haha. This is why it's so dangerous to mention free girls since she have been very selective and now she's going to clamp down I guess.

Aimee PPC / WSD. Apparently she did greek and BBFS for $200. Saw this on a TER report.

Suzu Chan PPC / WSD (crazy small spinner girl) is $100 BBFS.

Tadai went to NYCSE. I know NYCSE seems to set standard at $200 but I think Tadai will go for $100 back (and rumored lower at times) when she was at PPC / WSD. She's once of the best spinners with big tits. (relatively speaking).

Suna PPC - $200 cum outside (yes, I was like WTF.), CIP is the same $200. Idk why some girls ask the same price for cum outside. Makes no fucking sense.

Omochi NYCSE - $200 cum outside (yes. WTF Again), CIP is the same $200. Very hard lined on this.

Amina 10 Ten - $100 cum outside possible, $200 CIP.

Jamie DD at Xoxo. Heard some have gotten free CIP but some paid $100. Don't recall hearing $200 but she's YMMV on free bb is what I heard from mongers.

Michelle Metrogirls - $100 now reported for CIP. Used to never offer it at PH but I guess she needs to compete as business is low and $100 could help her draw some clients.

Yuri Metrogirls. I don't recall her every asking BBFS $ as a standard. Doesn't offer it to everyone but if she does, it's often free but it's not on the menu so don't be pissy if she doesn't like you enough to do a free BBFS with your or if she denies your ass.

Dream Dream You / Shangrla. Many girls will do it for $100 CIP. Also heard someone say Kylie has asked as high as $400 while some cuties like Alyssa will sit on your cock raw for a few strokes in the table shower to tease the fuck out of you. They don't always talk about PSE / BBFS on their website so need monger reports.

NYAF. I've heard a couple of girls do it for free but since I'm told it's very selective, pointless to share since most will simply be deny free CIP. They don't always talk about PSE / BBFS on their website so need monger reports.

Nurugirls. Never heard of anyone getting raw.

[QUOTE=PokerBrah;6342192]More well known places that advertised PSE / BBFS. I don't typically go for escorts or old woman that are 40+ so I don't bother tracking to see who I should try and fuck.

1. Keep in mind this is what the girls are asking for. It doesn't mean I'm willing to pay it.

2. Of course some of you can say you can get them to do it for free. Please name names or it's unless info if we're not as charming or not as handsome or not as connected as you.

3. I'm just sharing what the girl is looking for. Some will negotiate, some won't (ie: if you're just a fat slob that they don't find attractive) vs. Some handsome boy that can get free BBFS from any girl they see as some of you keep telling us. Good for you.

Anyway, I believe this is most helpful to set your expectations of what you may be ask and practice you game to get it lower or free but don't go in believe you will be like the handsome boys that says they get it for free. You (I know I'm not) are not as lucky like they are.

Newest info on 2/18.

Mayumi xoxogirls - $200 cum outside of inside (she's hot as fuck from the pictures).

Kisara 10 tenclub. Someone said she went higher than spa norm and asked for $300 (I know right. WTF LOL).

Rinka 10 tenclub. I read someone that she did it for $100 but normal is $200. Just means she's negotiable or maybe it was a more handsome fella.

Toy-Toy NYCSE. No idea yet since she's brand new but I assume $200 since she's at this place.

Yukiko NYCSE. Probably $200 but since her price is $220 30 min $320 60 min, she may be willing to try harder you know what I'm saying?

Sayaka NYCSE. I assume she's $200 since that's NYCSE standard it seems, not sure if negotiable, there is like no reviews for some of these girls at all.

Luca at Metrogirls. Someone got it freebie but then someone asked mms, she said no raw. Oops. Note if their website isn't advertising raw or "extra services" then you probably shouldn't ask the mamasan haha. This is why it's so dangerous to mention free girls since she have been very selective and now she's going to clamp down I guess.

Aimee PPC / WSD. Apparently she did greek and BBFS for $200. Saw this on a TER report.

Suzu Chan PPC / WSD (crazy small spinner girl) is $100 BBFS.

Tadai went to NYCSE. I know NYCSE seems to set standard at $200 but I think Tadai will go for $100 back (and rumored lower at times) when she was at PPC / WSD. She's once of the best spinners with big tits. (relatively speaking).

Suna PPC - $200 cum outside (yes, I was like WTF.), CIP is the same $200. Idk why some girls ask the same price for cum outside. Makes no fucking sense.

Omochi NYCSE - $200 cum outside (yes. WTF Again), CIP is the same $200. Very hard lined on this.

Amina 10 Ten - $100 cum outside possible, $200 CIP.

Jamie DD at Xoxo. Heard some have gotten free CIP but some paid $100. Don't recall hearing $200 but she's YMMV on free bb is what I heard from mongers.

Michelle Metrogirls - $100 now reported for CIP. Used to never offer it at PH but I guess she needs to compete as business is low and $100 could help her draw some clients.

Yuri Metrogirls. I don't recall her every asking BBFS $ as a standard. Doesn't offer it to everyone but if she does, it's often free but it's not on the menu so don't be pissy if she doesn't like you enough to do a free BBFS with your or if she denies your ass.

Dream Dream You / Shangrla. Many girls will do it for $100 CIP. Also heard someone say Kylie has asked as high as $400 while some cuties like Alyssa will sit on your cock raw for a few strokes in the table shower to tease the fuck out of you. They don't always talk about PSE / BBFS on their website so need monger reports.

NYAF. I've heard a couple of girls do it for free but since I'm told it's very selective, pointless to share since most will simply be deny free CIP. They don't always talk about PSE / BBFS on their website so need monger reports.

Nurugirls. Never heard of anyone getting raw.[/QUOTE]Thanks again this is very helpful! Hopefully the Metrogirls keep offering BBFS and don't close off due to publicity. It's crazy that the some of $200+ are cum outside only.

[QUOTE=PokerBrah;6342192]More well known places that advertised PSE / BBFS. I don't typically go for escorts or old woman that are 40+ so I don't bother tracking to see who I should try and fuck.

1. Keep in mind this is what the girls are asking for. It doesn't mean I'm willing to pay it.

2. Of course some of you can say you can get them to do it for free. Please name names or it's unless info if we're not as charming or not as handsome or not as connected as you.

3. I'm just sharing what the girl is looking for. Some will negotiate, some won't (ie: if you're just a fat slob that they don't find attractive) vs. Some handsome boy that can get free BBFS from any girl they see as some of you keep telling us. Good for you.

Anyway, I believe this is most helpful to set your expectations of what you may be ask and practice you game to get it lower or free but don't go in believe you will be like the handsome boys that says they get it for free. You (I know I'm not) are not as lucky like they are.

Newest info on 2/18.

Mayumi xoxogirls - $200 cum outside of inside (she's hot as fuck from the pictures).

Kisara 10 tenclub. Someone said she went higher than spa norm and asked for $300 (I know right. WTF LOL).

Rinka 10 tenclub. I read someone that she did it for $100 but normal is $200. Just means she's negotiable or maybe it was a more handsome fella.

Toy-Toy NYCSE. No idea yet since she's brand new but I assume $200 since she's at this place.

Yukiko NYCSE. Probably $200 but since her price is $220 30 min $320 60 min, she may be willing to try harder you know what I'm saying?

Sayaka NYCSE. I assume she's $200 since that's NYCSE standard it seems, not sure if negotiable, there is like no reviews for some of these girls at all.

Luca at Metrogirls. Someone got it freebie but then someone asked mms, she said no raw. Oops. Note if their website isn't advertising raw or "extra services" then you probably shouldn't ask the mamasan haha. This is why it's so dangerous to mention free girls since she have been very selective and now she's going to clamp down I guess.

Aimee PPC / WSD. Apparently she did greek and BBFS for $200. Saw this on a TER report.

Suzu Chan PPC / WSD (crazy small spinner girl) is $100 BBFS.

Tadai went to NYCSE. I know NYCSE seems to set standard at $200 but I think Tadai will go for $100 back (and rumored lower at times) when she was at PPC / WSD. She's once of the best spinners with big tits. (relatively speaking).

Suna PPC - $200 cum outside (yes, I was like WTF.), CIP is the same $200. Idk why some girls ask the same price for cum outside. Makes no fucking sense.

Omochi NYCSE - $200 cum outside (yes. WTF Again), CIP is the same $200. Very hard lined on this.

Amina 10 Ten - $100 cum outside possible, $200 CIP.

Jamie DD at Xoxo. Heard some have gotten free CIP but some paid $100. Don't recall hearing $200 but she's YMMV on free bb is what I heard from mongers.

Michelle Metrogirls - $100 now reported for CIP. Used to never offer it at PH but I guess she needs to compete as business is low and $100 could help her draw some clients.

Yuri Metrogirls. I don't recall her every asking BBFS $ as a standard. Doesn't offer it to everyone but if she does, it's often free but it's not on the menu so don't be pissy if she doesn't like you enough to do a free BBFS with your or if she denies your ass.

Dream Dream You / Shangrla. Many girls will do it for $100 CIP. Also heard someone say Kylie has asked as high as $400 while some cuties like Alyssa will sit on your cock raw for a few strokes in the table shower to tease the fuck out of you. They don't always talk about PSE / BBFS on their website so need monger reports.

NYAF. I've heard a couple of girls do it for free but since I'm told it's very selective, pointless to share since most will simply be deny free CIP. They don't always talk about PSE / BBFS on their website so need monger reports.

Nurugirls. Never heard of anyone getting raw.[/QUOTE]Awesome list, hope the 2 bens will drop soon. Nowadays if its on short notice that they charge 2 bens at the last min before the raws, usually that'll be the first and last time seeing them LOL. Haven't found one lady that's worth consistent extra 2 bens for raws with great skills to back them up since most are DUDs.

[QUOTE=RazGrizace00;6342197]Thanks again this is very helpful! Hopefully the Metrogirls keep offering BBFS and don't close off due to publicity. It's crazy that the some of $200+ are cum outside only.[/QUOTE]This is where the heavy screening comes in mind so they can weed out the less pleasant exp.

Kisara asked for $300, I showed an extra $180 in my wallet, she said yes, but then I said no. LOL.

She can be negotiated with if you really want to try her.

[QUOTE=TheWholeFnShow;6342401]Kisara asked for $300, I showed an extra $180 in my wallet, she said yes, but then I said no. LOL.

She can be negotiated with if you really want to try her.[/QUOTE]She prob wants to test the market to see how many gold fish she can bait. Nice shot man LOL. If only she didn't cover / blurred her face on pics, I might give a shot. Risky not worthy from the looks of it.

[QUOTE=ImperialHint;6341717]Not to say that everyone at that price range is dynamite, but there are definitely some good deals out there if you're okay with covered service.[/QUOTE]That's true but the same can be said at any price range.

Got some new info.

Toy-Toy NYSCE: $100 cip 30 min, 150 45 min, 200 60 min. Much better pricing model since 30 min is usually 1 pop!

Yukiko NYCSE: says $200 but I think can be had lower since she's on the older side the slim body is better than most 20 yr olds though.

Arisa xoxogirlsny - $200 it seems, someone need to charm her and report back.

Akari xoxogirlsny - $200 it seems, someone need to charm her and report back.

Kisara 10ten - $180 possible claimed, was $300 ask and he said he negotiated it down.

[QUOTE=PokerBrah;6342192]More well known places that advertised PSE / BBFS. I don't typically go for escorts or old woman that are 40+ so I don't bother tracking to see who I should try and fuck.

1. Keep in mind this is what the girls are asking for. It doesn't mean I'm willing to pay it.

2. Of course some of you can say you can get them to do it for free. Please name names or it's unless info if we're not as charming or not as handsome or not as connected as you.

3. I'm just sharing what the girl is looking for. Some will negotiate, some won't (ie: if you're just a fat slob that they don't find attractive) vs. Some handsome boy that can get free BBFS from any girl they see as some of you keep telling us. Good for you.

Anyway, I believe this is most helpful to set your expectations of what you may be ask and practice you game to get it lower or free but don't go in believe you will be like the handsome boys that says they get it for free. You (I know I'm not) are not as lucky like they are.

Newest info on 2/18.

Mayumi xoxogirls - $200 cum outside of inside (she's hot as fuck from the pictures).

Kisara 10 tenclub. Someone said she went higher than spa norm and asked for $300 (I know right. WTF LOL).

Rinka 10 tenclub. I read someone that she did it for $100 but normal is $200. Just means she's negotiable or maybe it was a more handsome fella.

Yukiko NYCSE. Probably $200 but since her price is $220 30 min $320 60 min, she may be willing to try harder you know what I'm saying?

Sayaka NYCSE. I assume she's $200 since that's NYCSE standard it seems, not sure if negotiable, there is like no reviews for some of these girls at all.

Luca at Metrogirls. Someone got it freebie but then someone asked mms, she said no raw. Oops. Note if their website isn't advertising raw or "extra services" then you probably shouldn't ask the mamasan haha. This is why it's so dangerous to mention free girls since she have been very selective and now she's going to clamp down I guess.

Aimee PPC / WSD. Apparently she did greek and BBFS for $200. Saw this on a TER report.

Suzu Chan PPC / WSD (crazy small spinner girl) is $100 BBFS.

Tadai went to NYCSE. I know NYCSE seems to set standard at $200 but I think Tadai will go for $100 back (and rumored lower at times) when she was at PPC / WSD. She's once of the best spinners with big tits. (relatively speaking).

Suna PPC - $200 cum outside (yes, I was like WTF.), CIP is the same $200. Idk why some girls ask the same price for cum outside. Makes no fucking sense.

Omochi NYCSE - $200 cum outside (yes. WTF Again), CIP is the same $200. Very hard lined on this.

Amina 10 Ten - $100 cum outside possible, $200 CIP.

Jamie DD at Xoxo. Heard some have gotten free CIP but some paid $100. Don't recall hearing $200 but she's YMMV on free bb is what I heard from mongers.

Michelle Metrogirls - $100 now reported for CIP. Used to never offer it at PH but I guess she needs to compete as business is low and $100 could help her draw some clients.

Yuri Metrogirls. I don't recall her every asking BBFS $ as a standard. Doesn't offer it to everyone but if she does, it's often free but it's not on the menu so don't be pissy if she doesn't like you enough to do a free BBFS with your or if she denies your ass.

Dream Dream You / Shangrla. Many girls will do it for $100 CIP. Also heard someone say Kylie has asked as high as $400 while some cuties like Alyssa will sit on your cock raw for a few strokes in the table shower to tease the fuck out of you. They don't always talk about PSE / BBFS on their website so need monger reports.

NYAF. I've heard a couple of girls do it for free but since I'm told it's very selective, pointless to share since most will simply be deny free CIP. They don't always talk about PSE / BBFS on their website so need monger reports.

Nurugirls. Never heard of anyone getting raw.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KettleCY1;6343220]That's true but the same can be said at any price range.[/QUOTE]Very true. I guess what struck me was that the covered service now seems like more of a deal than it did before because the prices aren't skyrocketing the way that the BBFS prices apparently are. Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems that you can get 2 covered sessions for the price of 1 BBFS session with more or less the same caliber of provider.

[QUOTE=JonRocket;6342012]There is a lot of behind the scenes bullshit involved with pricing. For starters, what makes every girl on any given Spa's roster all worth the same price?

I've told mms and bookers before that certain girls are not worth the same price other girls are getting. She agreed with me. She said the problem is if most the girls are 360 and she has another girl at 300 or 320 because no one wants to pay it, that girl starts getting more guest than the higher priced girls, and then the higher priced girls get pissed and threaten to leave. Another problem is there are plenty of girls that offer BBFS for free or at a lower price than other girls they work with. When the girls asking 100 for BBFS and another 100 for cip find out a girl they work with is doing it for less or even for free, the other girls get pissed and then start bullying the girl to charge for it, because it hurts their business.

There is one simple solution to the price gouging that is going on. Just don't fucking pay it, or go to another spa or girl that charges less. It doesn't take too many slow days for a girl or a spa to wake up and bring her prices down.[/QUOTE]Totally with you on this one man; there are too many guests paying the steep upgrades which spoils the girls into thinking GPS and eventually led to ruining the free / discounted upgrades. The market would be a lot better if we stick together and not spoil their crazy berserker prices esp with economy like this. This is why we have ATF's for backups in case new girls act GPS and thinking the client base will go along with their plan.

And some GFE only girls are starting to open up for BBFS cas business reasons too.

[QUOTE=PokerBrah;6341196]Unfortunately it's not that easy. If it was this easy we would not see BASE prices going up from 180/280 pre-covid to now $240/360 and now sometimes 300/500 just for CFS.

Someone always got more bank and don't care because it's still cheaper than escorts.

There is always free bb out there, harder to find on young cute girls, easier to find on older and more desperate ladies. It is just basic market dynamics and I wish it as simple as just a few of us not going to spas to get the price lowered! I wish![/QUOTE]I concur, so many hidden wallet warriors that pays these spots frequently and spoiling them to point they don't care if prices skyrocket. Needless to say, being kind and nice won't earn much points for free upgrades neither. Always troublemakers ruining the game for us.

But thanks for keep checking on fair deals man.

[QUOTE=ImperialHint;6343296]Very true. I guess what struck me was that the covered service now seems like more of a deal than it did before because the prices aren't skyrocketing the way that the BBFS prices apparently are. Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems that you can get 2 covered sessions for the price of 1 BBFS session with more or less the same caliber of provider.[/QUOTE]I would agree. I think your spot on there. As I'm finding out here are plenty of covered only places that are still asking 240-280 all in. We just aren't tslking about them anywhere because all focus is on BBFS friendly shops and ladies. Even when people just want covered they will still go to higher priced BBFS shop at the higher base rate. They don't eve. Know to consider some of the other shops now. Like K10 is new but obviously ownership and ladies aren't. The rate is 80 hr plus tip. I did 160 tip for FS with sugar. At 240 all in it was win all day.

[QUOTE=KettleCY1;6343760]I would agree. I think your spot on there. As I'm finding out here are plenty of covered only places that are still asking 240-280 all in. We just aren't tslking about them anywhere because all focus is on BBFS friendly shops and ladies. Even when people just want covered they will still go to higher priced BBFS shop at the higher base rate. They don't eve. Know to consider some of the other shops now. Like K10 is new but obviously ownership and ladies aren't. The rate is 80 hr plus tip. I did 160 tip for FS with sugar. At 240 all in it was win all day.[/QUOTE]KissKissP is still pretty good with all in extras, but talents are limited on rotation.

[QUOTE=TwilightDragon;6332656]Hello gents. Do you know if the girls of TTC, particularly Chiyo, Yumiko, Mami allow CIP in their extra service? Or is it just BBFS? Thanks![/QUOTE]Not sure about the others, but when I saw Mami, it was bbfscipx2. She is in NJ at a sister spot and last day is 2/21. She was at PP / WSD on her first stint in NY last year and she said she will be back in a couple months.

[QUOTE=IronClad999;6343773]KissKissP is still pretty good with all in extras, but talents are limited on rotation.[/QUOTE]Do they have a site or twitter?

[QUOTE=KettleCY1;6344589]Do they have a site or twitter?[/QUOTE]Their twitter is at KissPopNYC.

The website is kisspopny dot com.

[QUOTE=JonRocket;6342012]There is a lot of behind the scenes bullshit involved with pricing. For starters, what makes every girl on any given Spa's roster all worth the same price?

I've told mms and bookers before that certain girls are not worth the same price other girls are getting. She agreed with me. She said the problem is if most the girls are 360 and she has another girl at 300 or 320 because no one wants to pay it, that girl starts getting more guest than the higher priced girls, and then the higher priced girls get pissed and threaten to leave. Another problem is there are plenty of girls that offer BBFS for free or at a lower price than other girls they work with. When the girls asking 100 for BBFS and another 100 for cip find out a girl they work with is doing it for less or even for free, the other girls get pissed and then start bullying the girl to charge for it, because it hurts their business.

There is one simple solution to the price gouging that is going on. Just don't fucking pay it, or go to another spa or girl that charges less. It doesn't take too many slow days for a girl or a spa to wake up and bring her prices down.[/QUOTE]Just wondering how do the girls find out their coworker is doing BBFS for free or less? Do they lurk these forums or other ones and find out or a monger snitches. Like Go to Girl B and tell them Girl A does BBFS for free why should I give extra to you. Or is it something else.