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Hot looking pics. Looks TGTBT. Asked for 500.
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Hot looking pics. Looks TGTBT. Asked for 500.
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Hot pics. Asked for 500.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/a1e8ed50-44dd-48e4-95bd-0daeecf9afee[/URL]
Asked for 250 for erotic massage. Asked for 500 for FS.
Had a meet and greet with this one. Have plans to meet up again next week Anyone have any history with her?
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Any info is greatly appreciated.
It's because nobody wants to share the successes. You shared generally the success but you didn't share the women. Who wants to share a woman that you plan to see again? The moment you share someone good, everyone on this site jumps on them. So I share the not so good ones that I encounter to save people the time and effort with them. To each his own though. One person's failure may be another man's success story. Each person has to develop their style of dealing with women and they have their own different criteria for what they are looking for.
I do share many successful ones, but they asked me to share their info. But that's just me.
[QUOTE=JohnsDoe;4895738]I've only seen "failed" reports here, so I'm going to share my style and what works for me. I'm not sharing my women, but I'm hoping you get your share based on my experience. I was hesitant to join because I haven't seen many success reports here. This is my 2nd week, and I've been with 3 women, in my dreams; $150 for an hour each, all BBBJ, 2 BBFS. , 2 cimws; the last one I didn't have to pay. Remember I'm not sharing my women, so don't message me. I'm not trading either.
1. I search based on where I am; within zero miles. - I want them where I'm at. Unless you want to be driving around.
2. Read their profile! Take the time.
3. "Like" them, send a "Hey" message. If they respond, I send a "love to meet you" message next. Love is the most powerful word in the "Art of suggestion".
4. If you get a reply, give them your number right away.
5. Ask pics right away. Get it out of the way. Ask for pics with a handwritten date and time on paper. If there's filters, tell them you want to see their natural beauty. Tell them "no filters" - sounds cheesy, but women are women.
6. If they text you, propose to meet ASAP. Women will change their mind when the mood changes. Women are women no matter the race or where they grew up.
7. know what you want, tell her and be specific. Don't let them figure it out; I. E. "I want you in my bed" or I'm getting a hotel, and want you with me", "are you down?" - don't let them figure it out. Spell it out for them. Don't play around. Sell yourself, sell fast, and go for the close immediately.
8. If they don't tell you the rules, assume no rules. If they don't tell you it's PPM, assume it's free. If they ask for a deposit or uber, that's bullshit; unless it's the 2nd time, then maybe I'll consider to uber them.
9. If it's a hotel, I text the room number across it and I'm at the hallway walking around with phone on silent mode. I need to see them before I let them in. She never has documentation of the room I'm checked in.
Happy Hunting. Enjoy! I hope this helps. Remember, be clear. Be brutally honest. LEO check applies to everyone you text and meet. Don't increment yourself. Good Luck!
Feel free to ask questions. - I'm not trading, and I'm not sharing. Don't ask. I respect these women's privacy, and I'm kinda selfish with what I got. But I'm sharing my process. Enjoy![/QUOTE]
You are paying too much. Or maybe you are paying just right and girls just don't require or expect as much from me. 😂.
[QUOTE=DPark80;4895685]400 should be able to get you the majority of the girls on SA, at least 90% of them. Unless they were GPS, I've always been successfully able to negotiate down to 400 at most. And I only send messages to the hot or cute girls. I don't bother messaging the plain or overweight girls. I'm not going to pay to fuck them.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JohnsDoe;4895738]I've only seen "failed" reports here, so I'm going to share my style and what works for me. I'm not sharing my women, but I'm hoping you get your share based on my experience. I was hesitant to join because I haven't seen many success reports here. This is my 2nd week, and I've been with 3 women, in my dreams; $150 for an hour each, all BBBJ, 2 BBFS. , 2 cimws; the last one I didn't have to pay. Remember I'm not sharing my women, so don't message me. I'm not trading either.
1. I search based on where I am; within zero miles. - I want them where I'm at. Unless you want to be driving around.
2. Read their profile! Take the time.
3. "Like" them, send a "Hey" message. If they respond, I send a "love to meet you" message next. Love is the most powerful word in the "Art of suggestion".
4. If you get a reply, give them your number right away.
5. Ask pics right away. Get it out of the way. Ask for pics with a handwritten date and time on paper. If there's filters, tell them you want to see their natural beauty. Tell them "no filters" - sounds cheesy, but women are women.
6. If they text you, propose to meet ASAP. Women will change their mind when the mood changes. Women are women no matter the race or where they grew up.[/QUOTE]To be honest since I have been here I have noticed no one here shares the good ones. I probably have been the most generous poster when it comes to giving reports on some of the hottest girls here that are non-pros. The reason for this are.
1. I am not a hater.
2. I do this for the variety.
3. They are all ****** in my eyes who are selling themselves for money.
I personally have been burned by people here so I am much more careful now.
The majority of guys here won't even report the girl if they are done with them which is the bad part about it.
Out of 50 girls I have been with there is only one girl I would never report on.
Many men these days operate with a scarcity mindset. Remember guys these girls don't give a fuck about you and only your money. If you think you have something special with these girls tell them lets go out with out an allowance and see what happens.
[QUOTE=JohnsDoe;4895738]I've only seen "failed" reports here, so I'm going to share my style and what works for me. I'm not sharing my women, but I'm hoping you get your share based on my experience. I was hesitant to join because I haven't seen many success reports here. This is my 2nd week, and I've been with 3 women, in my dreams; $150 for an hour each, all BBBJ, 2 BBFS. , 2 cimws; the last one I didn't have to pay. Remember I'm not sharing my women, so don't message me. I'm not trading either.
1. I search based on where I am; within zero miles. - I want them where I'm at. Unless you want to be driving around.
2. Read their profile! Take the time.
3. "Like" them, send a "Hey" message. If they respond, I send a "love to meet you" message next. Love is the most powerful word in the "Art of suggestion".
4. If you get a reply, give them your number right away.[/QUOTE]You make some good points but I don't like point 8. I don't like booking the hotel room before seeing the girl and I like to negotiate the price and amount of time.
The reasons for this.
1. Some of these girls can show up 2 hours late and you are under with a 65 dollar hotel room. (Time is money).
2. When you don't negotiate the girls see you have the hotel room and try to charge you more being you are already locked in. They never got me this way and I told them to take a hike.
3. I am a multiple pop kind of guy. So if you don't negotiate and are done within 30 minutes they can say goodbye.
Another tip is never give them the money until you are done with them. It is safer on your end, this way if they try to play games with you have some leverage. There were a few girls I paid that if I had to do it all over again I would not of paid them and told them to take a hike even if they did make me pop.
Do you mind sharing pics of the girls you are seeing from site? Just wanted to see the girls that are down for that very to the point process. Most girls I see, it takes a couple of dates to make them be comfortable with me before seeing her in private.
[QUOTE=JohnsDoe;4895738]I've only seen "failed" reports here, so I'm going to share my style and what works for me. I'm not sharing my women, but I'm hoping you get your share based on my experience. I was hesitant to join because I haven't seen many success reports here. This is my 2nd week, and I've been with 3 women, in my dreams; $150 for an hour each, all BBBJ, 2 BBFS. , 2 cimws; the last one I didn't have to pay. Remember I'm not sharing my women, so don't message me. I'm not trading either.
1. I search based on where I am; within zero miles. - I want them where I'm at. Unless you want to be driving around.
2. Read their profile! Take the time.
3. "Like" them, send a "Hey" message. If they respond, I send a "love to meet you" message next. Love is the most powerful word in the "Art of suggestion".
4. If you get a reply, give them your number right away.
5. Ask pics right away. Get it out of the way. Ask for pics with a handwritten date and time on paper. If there's filters, tell them you want to see their natural beauty. Tell them "no filters" - sounds cheesy, but women are women.
6. If they text you, propose to meet ASAP. Women will change their mind when the mood changes. Women are women no matter the race or where they grew up.
7. know what you want, tell her and be specific. Don't let them figure it out; I. E. "I want you in my bed" or I'm getting a hotel, and want you with me", "are you down?" - don't let them figure it out. Spell it out for them. Don't play around. Sell yourself, sell fast, and go for the close immediately.
8. If they don't tell you the rules, assume no rules. If they don't tell you it's PPM, assume it's free. If they ask for a deposit or uber, that's bullshit; unless it's the 2nd time, then maybe I'll consider to uber them.
9. If it's a hotel, I text the room number across it and I'm at the hallway walking around with phone on silent mode. I need to see them before I let them in. She never has documentation of the room I'm checked in.
Happy Hunting. Enjoy! I hope this helps. Remember, be clear. Be brutally honest. LEO check applies to everyone you text and meet. Don't increment yourself. Good Luck!
Feel free to ask questions. - I'm not trading, and I'm not sharing. Don't ask. I respect these women's privacy, and I'm kinda selfish with what I got. But I'm sharing my process. Enjoy![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=NdFanMan;4896124]You are paying too much. Or maybe you are paying just right and girls just don't require or expect as much from me. 😂.[/QUOTE]I always offer 100 for the hour. They'll take time to reply and have no choice to go 250 or 200. I close at 150/ hr.
They are going to try again, but stick to 150. You need to be the one that opens the price. They'll ask what you offer, and you open up the price low at 100. At this point, they won't have a choice but tell you they're absolute lowest price, then counter with 150. I leave the GPS alone. I'm the one paying for the hotel on the other hand.
[QUOTE=Eternalchaoz;4896208]Do you mind sharing pics of the girls you are seeing from site? Just wanted to see the girls that are down for that very to the point process. Most girls I see, it takes a couple of dates to make them be comfortable with me before seeing her in private.[/QUOTE]It all comes down to you and the expectation that you set. If it starts with "what do you want" or them asking where to meet, I tell them "I want to hangout with you, I'll get the hotel" and give my open schedules. They understand what the means. If you want a date, then date. If you want to get laid, then tell them. Straight to the point.
Sharing the good ones. It's hard, I've been burned more than once doing that. Some guys here can be total fucking idiots when they approach a girl they found a review of on this board. Never share personal details that the girl can trace back to you. Never share their digits. Unless she's a pro, let the guy contact her on SA and let her decide if she wants to see him or not. Only a pro will be OK with random dudes texting out of the blue looking to fuck.
Fungus has been generous with info which is really cool to see.
[QUOTE=FightingFungus;4896142]To be honest since I have been here I have noticed no one here shares the good ones. I probably have been the most generous poster when it comes to giving reports on some of the hottest girls here that are non-pros. The reason for this are.
1. I am not a hater.
2. I do this for the variety.
3. They are all ****** in my eyes who are selling themselves for money.
I personally have been burned by people here so I am much more careful now.
The majority of guys here won't even report the girl if they are done with them which is the bad part about it.
Out of 50 girls I have been with there is only one girl I would never report on.
Many men these days operate with a scarcity mindset. Remember guys these girls don't give a fuck about you and only your money. If you think you have something special with these girls tell them lets go out with out an allowance and see what happens.
[/QUOTE]That's an ultra aggressive approach. If it works for you then stick with it! I've personally only seen this type of approach work with pros. The Co-ed types. They always complain about SA being a dumpster fire b / c guys behave way too thirsty and aggressive, talking to them like they are whor*s, etc. That and guys who want to excessively text is another common complaint. So I've always employed an approach in the middle. Be polite, not pushy, make them feel comfortable, but don't wait too long to get to the point either.
[QUOTE=JohnsDoe;4895738]I've only seen "failed" reports here, so I'm going to share my style and what works for me. I'm not sharing my women, but I'm hoping you get your share based on my experience. I was hesitant to join because I haven't seen many success reports here. This is my 2nd week, and I've been with 3 women, in my dreams; $150 for an hour each, all BBBJ, 2 BBFS. , 2 cimws; the last one I didn't have to pay. Remember I'm not sharing my women, so don't message me. I'm not trading either.
1. I search based on where I am; within zero miles. - I want them where I'm at. Unless you want to be driving around.
2. Read their profile! Take the time.
3. "Like" them, send a "Hey" message. If they respond, I send a "love to meet you" message next. Love is the most powerful word in the "Art of suggestion".
4. If you get a reply, give them your number right away.
5. Ask pics right away. Get it out of the way. Ask for pics with a handwritten date and time on paper. If there's filters, tell them you want to see their natural beauty. Tell them "no filters" - sounds cheesy, but women are women.
6. If they text you, propose to meet ASAP. Women will change their mind when the mood changes. Women are women no matter the race or where they grew up.
7. know what you want, tell her and be specific. Don't let them figure it out; I. E. "I want you in my bed" or I'm getting a hotel, and want you with me", "are you down?" - don't let them figure it out. Spell it out for them. Don't play around. Sell yourself, sell fast, and go for the close immediately.
8. If they don't tell you the rules, assume no rules. If they don't tell you it's PPM, assume it's free. If they ask for a deposit or uber, that's bullshit; unless it's the 2nd time, then maybe I'll consider to uber them.
9. If it's a hotel, I text the room number across it and I'm at the hallway walking around with phone on silent mode. I need to see them before I let them in. She never has documentation of the room I'm checked in.
Happy Hunting. Enjoy! I hope this helps. Remember, be clear. Be brutally honest. LEO check applies to everyone you text and meet. Don't increment yourself. Good Luck!
Feel free to ask questions. - I'm not trading, and I'm not sharing. Don't ask. I respect these women's privacy, and I'm kinda selfish with what I got. But I'm sharing my process. Enjoy![/QUOTE]
Does it mean you're banned if messages go to your sent folder instead of inbox when you message someone?
[QUOTE=PauFord;4896292]Sharing the good ones. It's hard, I've been burned more than once doing that. Some guys here can be total fucking idiots when they approach a girl they found a review of on this board. Never share personal details that the girl can trace back to you. Never share their digits. Unless she's a pro, let the guy contact her on SA and let her decide if she wants to see him or not. Only a pro will be OK with random dudes texting out of the blue looking to fuck.
Fungus has been generous with info which is really cool to see.
That's an ultra aggressive approach. If it works for you then stick with it! I've personally only seen this type of approach work with pros. The Co-ed types. They always complain about SA being a dumpster fire b / c guys behave way too thirsty and aggressive, talking to them like they are whor*s, etc. That and guys who want to excessively text is another common complaint. So I've always employed an approach in the middle. Be polite, not pushy, make them feel comfortable, but don't wait too long to get to the point either.[/QUOTE]I appreciate you sharing your approach and glad it works for you.
Personally I don't want to spend effort to please the queens on SA when filtering out SBs.
This leads to good self selection and filters out non-serious, women who are just trying to get the"feel" of SA, or "want to get comfortable first". I do treat them (or escorts for that matter) pretty well once the session starts (even small tip on top of what was agreed goes a long way). This has paid me way more dividend in terms of performance down the line in repeated sessions compared to spending effort on building rapport pre meeting.
[QUOTE=Aman123;4896301]Does it mean you're banned if messages go to your sent folder instead of inbox when you message someone?[/QUOTE]Messages will only show up in your inbox if the girl has replied at least once. If it's your first time sending her a message it will just be in your sent folder only.
[QUOTE=NdFanMan;4896124]You are paying too much. Or maybe you are paying just right and girls just don't require or expect as much from me. 😂.[/QUOTE]Haha, what are the quality of the girls you are seeing?
Its understandable if members are not willing to share the SB they are actively involved with but what should be shared is the ones that are red flags.
Everyone is playing in the same backyard so it would benefit every person to make know girls who pose a risk to the community. Maybe they set someone up to get robbed, maybe they have a potential drug habit, or maybe they pose an STI risk. Posting a mention of that is in your best interests so others will do the same.
And posting one of those individual's profile photos rather than just the profile link is imperative since one can be deleted and the other cannot.
[QUOTE=PauFord;4896292]Sharing the good ones. It's hard, I've been burned more than once doing that. Some guys here can be total fucking idiots when they approach a girl they found a review of on this board. Never share personal details that the girl can trace back to you. Never share their digits. Unless she's a pro, let the guy contact her on SA and let her decide if she wants to see him or not. Only a pro will be OK with random dudes texting out of the blue looking to fuck.
Fungus has been generous with info which is really cool to see.
That's an ultra aggressive approach. If it works for you then stick with it! I've personally only seen this type of approach work with pros. The Co-ed types. They always complain about SA being a dumpster fire b / c guys behave way too thirsty and aggressive, talking to them like they are whor*s, etc. That and guys who want to excessively text is another common complaint. So I've always employed an approach in the middle. Be polite, not pushy, make them feel comfortable, but don't wait too long to get to the point either.[/QUOTE]I agree. Be polite. I'm not aggressive. There's women here in actually want to date. There's women I date and don't ask for money at all, but I pay for food and the fun things we do. The ones that ask me what I want, I tell them what I want. When they say how much, I start the negotion process; that's if I wanted them in bed. Just go straight to the point. I don't initiate the ppm; when it happens, I let them know.
[QUOTE=FightingFungus;4896161]You make some good points but I don't like point 8. I don't like booking the hotel room before seeing the girl and I like to negotiate the price and amount of time.
The reasons for this.
1. Some of these girls can show up 2 hours late and you are under with a 65 dollar hotel room. (Time is money).
2. When you don't negotiate the girls see you have the hotel room and try to charge you more being you are already locked in. They never got me this way and I told them to take a hike.
3. I am a multiple pop kind of guy. So if you don't negotiate and are done within 30 minutes they can say goodbye.
Another tip is never give them the money until you are done with them. It is safer on your end, this way if they try to play games with you have some leverage. There were a few girls I paid that if I had to do it all over again I would not of paid them and told them to take a hike even if they did make me pop.[/QUOTE]100%. Never give the money till I'm done. Before we meet I ask pics of them without filter and I ask them to write a current date and time on paper. I also ask for a body pic. I do this after I close at 1. 5 for an hour of their time. Once I'm comfortable with who I'm seeing, I lock in the hotel room. Got to take a risk at some point.
Point 3. I'm a marathon runner. I like foreplay and multiple positions for a long time. LOL.
Guys, if I shared my tips, its only so you can enjoy as well. I'm not saying its fool proof. It works for me. Mix and match nd make it your style. I do mine this way because I see SA as an investment, and I'm getting my ROI fast. My SA profile states I want women who knows what they want and goes for it. My profile pics are real with no filters. I also included that I don't like online stuff. Who ever is "favorited" me, is down to meet; well including the scammers that sends me Lana Rhoades selfies. LOL.
Happy Hunting!
[QUOTE=PauFord;4896601]Messages will only show up in your inbox if the girl has replied at least once. If it's your first time sending her a message it will just be in your sent folder only.[/QUOTE]Kinda strange. Some of the messages I sent goes to my inbox with no reply and some goes into my sent folder.
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[QUOTE=DPark80;4895685]400 should be able to get you the majority of the girls on SA, at least 90% of them. Unless they were GPS, I've always been successfully able to negotiate down to 400 at most. And I only send messages to the hot or cute girls. I don't bother messaging the plain or overweight girls. I'm not going to pay to fuck them.[/QUOTE]Price range for decent to good looking girls are 300-400, all the one I see that is 100-250 on here is really mean BEAUTY IS IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER, without any prove or pic. Who knows what she really look like and if the pic of her are recent, you can argue and debate for the next 1000's years and every guys will have a different value and look / beauty and pussy.
I just think girls look like play boy models or some of the "girls do porn video" will cost you 400-500, and girls look similar to Roseanna Bar will cost much less, women will compare themself even more then men do and they value their look and pussy even more.
Truly beauty women will know her worth and her pussy value, and how much and many men will paid for it, I don't believe super hot sa girls in the USA-chicago will give up her pussy for 100-150, Why? Because other men will offer her 400-500 and they not that stupid to take 100-150 over 400-500, come on most of them have boyfriend, why would they even care, maybe other country like canada / montreal, mexico, south / south america, eastern europe, russia ect you can get good looking pussy for cheap, but probably not here, that's my two cents.
[QUOTE=Pal5600;4897053]Price range for decent to good looking girls are 300-400, all the one I see that is 100-250 on here is really mean BEAUTY IS IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER, without any prove or pic. Who knows what she really look like and if the pic of her are recent, you can argue and debate for the next 1000's years and every guys will have a different value and look / beauty and pussy.
I just think girls look like play boy models or some of the "girls do porn video" will cost you 400-500, and girls look similar to Roseanna Bar will cost much less, women will compare themself even more then men do and they value their look and pussy even more.
Truly beauty women will know her worth and her pussy value, and how much and many men will paid for it, I don't believe super hot sa girls in the USA-chicago will give up her pussy for 100-150, Why? Because other men will offer her 400-500 and they not that stupid to take 100-150 over 400-500, come on most of them have boyfriend, why would they even care, maybe other country like canada / montreal, mexico, south / south america, eastern europe, russia ect you can get good looking pussy for cheap, but probably not here, that's my two cents.[/QUOTE]True, there are women that will not take under 400 - 500. There's even a girl that said, 200-300 just to meet for the first time. I call them Pros. I don't like hitting on Pros. In my very short experience, there's about 2 out of 20 of them out there. The new ones, that are really fucking beautiful and are new or semi new, still don't have an idea. Those are the ones that I want; their insecure because not a lot of guys hit on them, they don't think their beautiful because they don't get as much attention. In reality, the new or semi new beautiful women don't get attention because we think their TGTBT and fake. Try the $100 approach and close at 150. You'll be surprised. My point is, if we can control this pricing, we can all have so much more good times.
Remember you open the price. This forces them to tell you their ultimate low price, then close at 150. Hell if their really cute, I'll close at 200 - But I haven't gone to 200 yet. Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth. Mike Tyson; Book: Don't Split the Difference by Chris Voss. - Try it.
Yes, exactly, it all depends on the quality of girl you are seeing. Sometimes you can get lucky. I was seeing someone earlier this year. She was really cute and only wanted 250, we went bare with CIP, and she hung out with me for 5+ hours each time we met.
[QUOTE=Pal5600;4897053]Price range for decent to good looking girls are 300-400, all the one I see that is 100-250 on here is really mean BEAUTY IS IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER, without any prove or pic. Who knows what she really look like and if the pic of her are recent, you can argue and debate for the next 1000's years and every guys will have a different value and look / beauty and pussy.
I just think girls look like play boy models or some of the "girls do porn video" will cost you 400-500, and girls look similar to Roseanna Bar will cost much less, women will compare themself even more then men do and they value their look and pussy even more.
Truly beauty women will know her worth and her pussy value, and how much and many men will paid for it, I don't believe super hot sa girls in the USA-chicago will give up her pussy for 100-150, Why? Because other men will offer her 400-500 and they not that stupid to take 100-150 over 400-500, come on most of them have boyfriend, why would they even care, maybe other country like canada / montreal, mexico, south / south america, eastern europe, russia ect you can get good looking pussy for cheap, but probably not here, that's my two cents.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pal5600;4897053]Price range for decent to good looking girls are 300-400, all the one I see that is 100-250 on here is really mean BEAUTY IS IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER, without any prove or pic. Who knows what she really look like and if the pic of her are recent, you can argue and debate for the next 1000's years and every guys will have a different value and look / beauty and pussy.
I just think girls look like play boy models or some of the "girls do porn video" will cost you 400-500, and girls look similar to Roseanna Bar will cost much less, women will compare themself even more then men do and they value their look and pussy even more.
Truly beauty women will know her worth and her pussy value, and how much and many men will paid for it, I don't believe super hot sa girls in the USA-chicago will give up her pussy for 100-150, Why? Because other men will offer her 400-500 and they not that stupid to take 100-150 over 400-500, come on most of them have boyfriend, why would they even care, maybe other country like canada / montreal, mexico, south / south america, eastern europe, russia ect you can get good looking pussy for cheap, but probably not here, that's my two cents.[/QUOTE]You make some good points but I disagree with you on some. A big part of it is how rich the girls background is. You can get good looking young Hispanic girls for 200 fairly regularly black chics and mulattos also. Sometimes if a girl likes you and after initial 300 allowance she will see you for 100-150 on 2nd and 3rd meets. The girls who charge the most are young, blonde and blue eyed white girls.
[QUOTE=Aman123;4896962][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/62bdebc0-d2a1-4d3c-b0f1-61949c8e78a1[/URL][/QUOTE]Druggie as in heroin or meth? Thanks for the report!
[QUOTE=FightingFungus;4897332]Druggie as in heroin or meth? Thanks for the report![/QUOTE]Meth. She has scab on her legs.
Met with her a few times. First time was decent, but went downhill from there. Long story short, I gave advance on allowance to help with medical appointments with the idea that she'd make up for it. She didn't, and asked for allowance again before meeting up. Lots of depression and anxiety issues, plus overall kinda rude. I told her to kick rocks. Not super cute, but figured we clicked and she was an ok lay. Not worth the headache though. I'd skip if I were you.
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[QUOTE=JohnsDoe;4897202]True, there are women that will not take under 400 - 500. There's even a girl that said, 200-300 just to meet for the first time. I call them Pros. I don't like hitting on Pros. In my very short experience, there's about 2 out of 20 of them out there. The new ones, that are really fucking beautiful and are new or semi new, still don't have an idea. Those are the ones that I want; their insecure because not a lot of guys hit on them, they don't think their beautiful because they don't get as much attention. In reality, the new or semi new beautiful women don't get attention because we think their TGTBT and fake. Try the $100 approach and close at 150. You'll be surprised. My point is, if we can control this pricing, we can all have so much more good times.
Remember you open the price. This forces them to tell you their ultimate low price, then close at 150. Hell if their really cute, I'll close at 200 - But I haven't gone to 200 yet. Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth. Mike Tyson; Book: Don't Split the Difference by Chris Voss. - Try it.[/QUOTE]That's true, but hot young new amateur coed will have 10 are more offer, if you were her, would you take 400-500 vs. 100-150 come on, who the hell will take less, if you half way normal, I think she will fuck you for 400+ vs 100+ and she don't need your love / affection she already have a boyfriend for that, she only need your money, the more the better.
[QUOTE=FightingFungus;4897330]You make some good points but I disagree with you on some. A big part of it is how rich the girls background is. You can get good looking young Hispanic girls for 200 fairly regularly black chics and mulattos also. Sometimes if a girl likes you and after initial 300 allowance she will see you for 100-150 on 2nd and 3rd meets. The girls who charge the most are young, blonde and blue eyed white girls.[/QUOTE]That's true, white blond, slim young hot coed will cost more, because they are in high demand and they know it, and because many, many guys will send them huge offer 400-500, and they will pick which guys they want to fuck for the most dollars and somewhat a normal guy, non white girls are cheaper, they get less offer, .
Many, many, many of my hot white young coed come and go, and I willing to bet they find guys who is young, better looking and deeper pocket then me, (I highly doubt they find a more ugly, fat old fart that give them less then me, in this sa game, if hot young coed women find something better then you, then you are gone, that's my two cents.
[QUOTE=VicStick2;4897859]Met with her a few times. First time was decent, but went downhill from there. Long story short, I gave advance on allowance to help with medical appointments with the idea that she'd make up for it. She didn't, and asked for allowance again before meeting up. Lots of depression and anxiety issues, plus overall kinda rude. I told her to kick rocks. Not super cute, but figured we clicked and she was an ok lay. Not worth the headache though. I'd skip if I were you.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/0fe48c8f-ea1c-4381-ad05-a12ea3231858[/URL][/QUOTE]She offered me a dirt cheap allowance without any negotiation. Looks ghetto and heavily tatted in the pics she sent me. I had a bad feeling and thought it could be a setup to be robbed so I passed.
[QUOTE=Pal5600;4897972]That's true, white blond, slim young hot coed will cost more, because they are in high demand and they know it, and because many, many guys will send them huge offer 400-500, and they will pick which guys they want to fuck for the most dollars and somewhat a normal guy, non white girls are cheaper, they get less offer, .
Many, many, many of my hot white young coed come and go, and I willing to bet they find guys who is young, better looking and deeper pocket then me, (I highly doubt they find a more ugly, fat old fart that give them less then me, in this sa game, if hot young coed women find something better then you, then you are gone, that's my two cents.[/QUOTE]I agree many will even ask for more than. The way I deal with these girls I offer 300 and walk, there have been a few that hit me up later when they were desperate for 300. (rarely happens however).
I think it is all about the money. The girls who are 9's and 10's will find guys who are extremely wealthy that will pay their rent and give them allowance on top of that. These girls end up breaking up with this guy and end up having high standards and my 300 is nothing to them. LOL.
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I should have used some common sense to avoid seeing 47 yr old woman but she kept texting me and sent a few teasing vids. She used to be a pro when she was young then her husband provided good life for her but now she is going through a divorce and is doing back what she knows best. She has a bunch of kids and therefore baby damage. DFK, DATY and CFS. I had to pick up a call from work that took 30 min and she started dressing during that time so I don't know if MSOG is allowed. She keeps hitting me up to meet but 350 for a 47 yr old CFS is not worthed and she is pretty stubborn on using a cover. She may be a good option for a 55 - 65 yr old guys looking for a companion cause she have sense of humor and is pleasant but definitely not worth the money for the age and service.
[QUOTE=StanKost;4898385][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/49a7d8c9-24f7-411d-b9cc-8647aba49ada[/URL]
I should have used some common sense to avoid seeing 47 yr old woman but she kept texting me and sent a few teasing vids. She used to be a pro when she was young then her husband provided good life for her but now she is going through a divorce and is doing back what she knows best. She has a bunch of kids and therefore baby damage. DFK, DATY and CFS. I had to pick up a call from work that took 30 min and she started dressing during that time so I don't know if MSOG is allowed. She keeps hitting me up to meet but 350 for a 47 yr old CFS is not worthed and she is pretty stubborn on using a cover. She may be a good option for a 55 - 65 yr old guys looking for a companion cause she have sense of humor and is pleasant but definitely not worth the money for the age and service.[/QUOTE]350 for a 47 yr old.
[QUOTE=StanKost;4898385][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/49a7d8c9-24f7-411d-b9cc-8647aba49ada[/URL]
I should have used some common sense to avoid seeing 47 yr old woman but she kept texting me and sent a few teasing vids. She used to be a pro when she was young then her husband provided good life for her but now she is going through a divorce and is doing back what she knows best. She has a bunch of kids and therefore baby damage. DFK, DATY and CFS. I had to pick up a call from work that took 30 min and she started dressing during that time so I don't know if MSOG is allowed. She keeps hitting me up to meet but 350 for a 47 yr old CFS is not worthed and she is pretty stubborn on using a cover. She may be a good option for a 55 - 65 yr old guys looking for a companion cause she have sense of humor and is pleasant but definitely not worth the money for the age and service.[/QUOTE]I personally think paying for a 47 year old 350 for one shot is way too much. Why get a 47 year old when you could get a 20 year old for cheaper. I refuse to pay any girls with kids who are over 25 a penny over 200.
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Seems like a pro. Gave me her number and is dtf.
[QUOTE=Pal5600;4897956]That's true, but hot young new amateur coed will have 10 are more offer, if you were her, would you take 400-500 vs. 100-150 come on, who the hell will take less, if you half way normal, I think she will fuck you for 400+ vs 100+ and she don't need your love / affection she already have a boyfriend for that, she only need your money, the more the better.[/QUOTE]You can do it. Just try it. Hell, my target now is to get them free. I'll share my experience. Already had one. Working on keeping it consistent. Setup is Key. Get what you can out of my experience, it don't always work.
[QUOTE=FightingFungus;4898406]I personally think paying for a 47 year old 350 for one shot is way too much. Why get a 47 year old when you could get a 20 year old for cheaper. I refuse to pay any girls with kids who are over 25 a penny over 200.[/QUOTE]I got played. She kept texting me and sending pics and videos and initially asked for 500 and I totally dissed her but she kept coming back saying that she is refined and classy etc so I decided to take a shot hoping for 2 - 3 rounds BBFSCIP given her age and price which was my mistake. When we met she told me about her past and that she was paid 1 K plus tip when she was young in Las Vegas. Age is relevant though, the best sex I had in my life was with a woman in early to mid 40 s with 2 kids but this was an on and off relationship with feelings and stuff and not a SA. Since then I had fucked many younger and better looking ones but nobody can come close to the sex I had with that MILF.
[QUOTE=FightingFungus;4898406]I personally think paying for a 47 year old 350 for one shot is way too much. Why get a 47 year old when you could get a 20 year old for cheaper. I refuse to pay any girls with kids who are over 25 a penny over 200.[/QUOTE]Seriously, this can be had for free, at any time, on a normal dating site. It is sugarbaby, not expired milk.