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I encounter ORIENT MASSAGE in backpage "[url]http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/1-new-girls-new-styles-newm-a-nagemen-t-23/17516504[/url]"

Any one got experience on STEAM & DRY SAUNA.

How is the service?

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=PatricT; 1449725]I encounter ORIENT MASSAGE in backpage "

[url]http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/1-new-girls-new-styles-newm-a-nagemen-t-23/17516504[/url]

"

Any one got experience on STEAM & DRY SAUNA.

How is the service?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Hey Pat, you have 8 posts and every single one is a question. Have you gone and seen any of the previous "question girls" yet? If so, where is your report? So, I guess it's my turn to ask a question, why do you only ask questions and never post any reviews?

Ol Bubba

[QUOTE=Bubba1979; 1449938]Hey Pat, you have 8 posts and every single one is a question. Have you gone and seen any of the previous "question girls" yet? If so, where is your report? So, I guess it's my turn to ask a question, why do you only ask questions and never post any reviews?

Ol Bubba[/QUOTE]Bubba,

Don't you get tired of all the newbies asking, 'Where's the action, Anybody tried her yet?, etc, etc". Hell, the last two previous posts are from newbies wanting info!!!
Hey newbies, the way to do it is RTFF first, (all the info you will ever need is already there. Do some research like we did when we first started) go 'get-r-done' somewhere and then post about your experience. Build up some 'cred' here before you start asking for help and info. Once we have some confidence in you and your posts, THEN we'll be happy to help you out with info. And remember, it is not the quantity of your posts that makes you a "true" senior, it is the quality. I don't know how Jackson would ever do this, but I think it would be a good idea, for a person to gain senior status, to have posted "X" number of quality, verifiable posts. A large number of posts doesn't mean a damn thing if there is not some good information in them.

I've posted this before, but maybe it's time to do it again. Newbies, here is some of the most valuable info you will ever get for this hobby. It will help you with your experience (s) in this hobby of ours.

Enjoy the hobby,

Dirty.

1) Leave Valuables and Extra Money Outside. Only take in what you need. Some places may want to see your I'd. You will need money or a credit card to pay. I usually take my cell-phone, keys, and only enough money to pay for what I want. If you don't know what the charge will be, put money in different pockets or hide it in your wallet (behind a photo or something) so they don't see all your money at once. I had one girl looking in my wallet after I told her I was used to paying $100 for FS and she wanted $150. Luckily, I had already "moved" the extra money somewhere else and only paid the $100. Use the specific city forums to research and post pricing in the area you are going.

2) Entry into the AMP. Entry can be done in a number of ways. Sometimes, there is a locked door with a buzzer and sometimes you enter like a normal business. When you are greeted, smile and say Hello, to the person letting you in. They will most likely be the mama-san who is in charge of the girls. At some point, either at the front or in a massage room, you'll be asked what you want. Simply state "1 Hour Please" or whatever time limit you want. You'll be told a price and you should pay that to start without talking about any tips or extras. I recommend at least an hour as shorter times may cheapen your experience. 30 minutes is good if you are in a rush or short on cash. Sometimes you pay the person admitting you and sometimes it's the actual girl you pay. At this point, you aren't asking for anything other than a massage.

3) Become a Repeat Customer. This seems to be the number one factor. The providers want to make sure you are "not a cop" and once they are comfortable that you aren't, they will more than likely provide extras. I've been asked many times, ' have you been here before?" and it's always good to answer "yes". If they remember you, even better. If not, try and remember the name of the person you saw before.

3a) Get / Present a Business Card. Some AMPs have business cards so you can ask for one on your way out. I have the girls write their name on them so I didn't forget and I could "ask" for them when I go back. Even if they weren't there on my visit, it showed the new provider or mama-san that I was there before. If you walk in with a business card and ask for a specific girl, that's a pretty big clue you're back for more.

3b) Fake Being a Repeat Customer. If you haven't been to a particular place before, act like you have been. Get information about them in the forums for the cities you plan on visiting, or your home town. Find out the going rates for HJ, BJ, FS etc. And have the money handy. Even a little comment during the Table Shower or Sauna such as "this is my favorite part" or something along those lines will make them think you were there before. Do your research before you go!

3c) If you are a new Customer. You can tell them that you have been to other AMP's in another city. This is a good technique if you are travelling and are trying out AMP's in a new city. You can also name a competitor and say you used to go there but you moved and this one is closer or that you want to try something new. The goal is to let them know you've been to AMP's before, but that you are new to their particular establishment. Depending on the place, this may or may not lead to extras.

3d) Prove you are not LE. If a provider thinks you are a cop, you will most likely NOT get any extras. This is why some check your drivers license (although I haven't had that happen). Some are content with the "Are you a cop?"/"no" routine. Others want to be sure so tips like being free with your nudity, placing her hands on your genitals, or anything else that leads them to believe you are a normal guy not looking to bust them. That's pretty much the whole point of being a repeat customer.

4) Get Fully Undressed ASAP. Yes, you will be naked. In my experience, the girl takes your door fee, leaves for a minute or more. Sometimes she will ask you to get undressed, sometimes she won't, sometimes she will and you won't understand a word she said. So use this time to take ALL of your clothes off. My first time, I was standing in my underwear and she told me to take those off too. I felt as if she knew it was my first time. So get naked and if the towel slides off, let it. It will show her that you have done this before. Be free with nudity.

5) Use Provided "Purse". Many times, you will see a little purse or bag that is there for you to put valuables in. Use it to put your "valuables" in and carry that with you to other areas of the spa. You may go to a sauna, hot-tub, shower, or table-shower. Since you won't have pockets, look for the little bag and carry it with you. If they don't have one, you can ask for one. In some places, you may just stay in the room you were brought into the entire time (no shower). In this case, you will be able to keep an eye on your things. If you are leaving the room and are worried, look for something to carry your valuables in. NOTE: Having your things in the little bag is a neat clue to the girl that you have done this before.

Generally you will find that Asian massage parlors are very honest, and you don't have to be as careful with your possessions as with 'other' massage parlor providers. Not trying to be racist here, but my experience (after 30+ years) in this hobby proves that to be true.

6) Bring your own condom. The "purse" is a great opportunity to place a condom where she can see it. If there is no purse, lay the condom on a table or somewhere that is in view. Usually, if they are providing extras, they will provide the condom. But showing the initiative to bringing your own indicates you are there for more than a massage.

7) Shower Etiquette. Some places offer a shower where you go in yourself and wash. If they don't offer, ask if there is one. Some places take you to a table-shower where they put you on a table and wash you. Some places, the girl will wash everything including your genitals. This is a good thing. Some places may ask you to wash your own genitals and I would advise you to do so if you want them to do anything later. It is not generally appropriate to ask for extras at this time. It also helps if you know where the shower is and lead her there instead of her leading you.

Revision 1: A mamasan once told me: Cops won't shower. The level of vulnerability is way too high. No badge. No gun. No wire. It's just too risky. I am sure there have been exceptions, but by taking a shower, you really help put them all at ease, not to mention your provider, who will just be happy you are clean.

8) Enjoy the Massage. It's part of the experience, and the girls usually give you a pretty good massage. If you have a stiff neck, sore legs, or something else, let her know so she can concentrate on those areas. You usually start out on your stomach and she rubs your back, legs, arms, etc. She may brush against you with her crotch, lift up her skirt and sit on your butt, and lean over brushing her body against you. Different places vary as far as touching her, but light brushing on her leg or arm aren't too intrusive and will generally let her know you are looking for extras. This isn't necessary and I usually don't "touch" her until later. This is still part of the "I'm not a cop" routine.

9) Lose the Towel. If there is a towel covering you, do everything possible to get it off of you. If it's covering your butt, roll around while she isn't near you so it gets out of position or falls to the floor. If she puts it back, lose it again. Don't be too obvious but at some point, the towel will most likely be tossed aside. If she is persistent, feel free to ask "no towel please" or something along those lines.

10) Become Aroused. Usually, the girl will try to get you aroused. She'll lighten up the touch a little around your buttocks and brush your skin gently. Shift yourself if you do become aroused to "let her know" that you need room to grow. If you aren't getting aroused, shift yourself anyway to "fake" getting aroused. This will let her know that your johnson is growing and you are getting ready. She may even reach underneath and lend a helping hand if you are lucky.

11) Wait to Flip Over. At some point, she'll ask you to flip over. When she does, simply flip over onto your back. You may or may not be aroused at this point. Either way, she'll know and she'll do everything she legally knows how to make sure you get aroused. This is a time to smile and enjoy her expertise.

12) The "Tip". The girl will usually ask if there is anything else she can do for you or if you are "OK". This is where you say what you want (HJ, BJ, FS) or make the HJ, BJ, FS "motions". She'll either say how much or just ask you for money. This is where knowing the going rate is handy. It's usually $40-$60 for HJ, $80-$100 for BJ, and $100-$140 for FS. Keep in mind that you can always negotiate and it may vary depending on where in the USA, or world, you are. She may leave for a minute or two or she may just start right there. The key to negotiating is getting a fair value. If you offer $20 for FS and she accepts, it will probably be the worst FS ever. If you overpay, then you ruin the great value of the AMP. So try not to stray too far above or below the going rate. I usually offer at the low end (I. E. $100 for FS) and say that's what I'm used to paying. Tell her what you want and a price you want to pay. She'll most likely be reluctant to give you pricing. One thing some guys recommend is leaving the tip out in advance. But, I know some guys here recommend strongly against it, but I have always found it works to strip down, lie down, and have the money sitting on the counter before the girl returns to the room. The only times I've ever had to haggle is when I didn't do that.

13) The Fun Part. When she returns (or starts) , it's generally acceptable that you can now touch her. She may or may not like you to and you have to respect her individual level of comfort. I've had girls get completely naked, sit between my legs, and give me a HJ as well as one that stands there fully clothed doing it. I can't predict what will happen but this will affect your decision to return or not return. If you are getting BJ or FS, she will most likely provide and put on the condom (which I recommend) and she'll start. If you brought your own, she may use that one. Again, if you want to be on top, do it doggie-style, or want her on top, they are generally open to how you want to do it.

14) Variations. If you are into DATY or other things, be up front with it. I've done DATY on a number of girls and some get into it and some don't. Some enjoy when you touch and finger them and some don't. Some will let you massage them and some won't. I've never looked for Anal so I can't give advice on that. Some places will only give HJ. So be aware and look for advice in your local forums.

15) Happy Ending. After the ending, she'll usually clean you up or get rid of the condom if there was one used. Sometimes, a hot towel, a beverage, and even mouthwash are provided. If you paid for an hour and you finish early, you may or may not get the full time limit. Some girls will continue the massage, some will tell you to get dressed. This is another area where different places differ greatly. If you feel cheated out of your time, feel free to express your opinion.

16) Be Polite. I use this motto in life, but the providers are people just like you and me, and they like being treated with respect. During the massage, try giving out a compliment such as "that feels nice" or "your hands are so soft" instead of something like "you have nice tits" or "I can't wait to f*k you". I find that being nice goes a lot farther than acting like an ass. Talk to them like you'd talk to a new friend.

17) Learn the Language. If you can learn Korean / Chinese / etc, you will most likely have an easier time communicating what you want in an AMP. The most difficult part is telling them what you want or trying to listen to their broken english. You'll most likely find yourself in a vulnerable position making the "BJ" motion followed by a dollar amount. Learning their native tongue, or a few phrases, can improve your experience.

18) Post Your Experience. We don't need every detail, but posting in the city forum where the AMP / Spa is located will help everyone with certain details of locations and pricing and if anything beyond a massage happened. Price and extras vary from region to region. If you get ripped off at a place, tell us that too and we'll appreciate you "taking one for the team.

This is just based on my experience in AMPs over the last 30+ years, as well as some tips I've picked up from other hobby mongers. If you have some additional helpful hints, please add them to the list. It will help all of us who are in the 'hobby'.

[QUOTE=Dirty Old Guy; 1450403]Bubba,

Don't you get tired of all the newbies asking, 'Where's the action, Anybody tried her yet, etc, etc". Hell, the last two previous posts are from newbies wanting info!

Hey newbies, the way to do it is RTFF first, (all the info you will ever need is already there. Do some research like we did when we first started) go 'get-are-done' somewhere and then post about your experience. Build up some 'cred' here before you start asking...[/QUOTE]I'm really not into AMP's cause I've never had much luck in them, but you certainly have posted some very sage advice.

Great post for newbies! Are the girls in the ads the actual girls you'll see at the parlor?

I have always appreciated the Senior guys who have been willing to share and save me the bad experience I could have had. I also agree that some Newbies need to stick their fingers in the water before asking, and do more sharing.

The real value of the forum. To me, is not getting turned on by some other persons experience, but learning which girl is willing to do what. There are many who do excellent posts. They rate the girls, share prices and give us a heads-up.

Appreciate DOG's posts! I read them 3-4 years ago and they helped to dodge many bullets.

Now I am looking for a normal size gal with normal size tits and reminds me of my 30's.

Any referrals?

Many Thanks.

Okane

This girl posts several times during the day with just an email address. Actually better looking than pics, but is a 5 minute very lame rub of the lower back, and then asks to flip. Does get nude, and has a great body, but no touching below the belt ever, and does the oral upsell right away. SUpposedly does an hr for 100 clams, but I was in and out in less than 30. There are much better ways to drop a benjamin in this town.

Was feeling like a little Latina-persuasion today. After searching through BP, came across this ad (says Jade massage on the door) :

[url]http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/smokin-hot-sexy-new-latinas-give-excellent-full-bodywork-623-939-1308-23/14629352[/url]

I decided to give it a shot. Not in the greatest section of Glendale, but it was mid-day so I didn't worry too much. Greeted at the window by a hot, young Latina (Carla). $.4 for the door. I must have fallen asleep. Because in my dream I got undressed and she came in wearing a semi-see through nightie sort of thing. Great spinner body. The "massage" lasted all of two minutes before she asked me to turn over. Negotiated to $1. 2 for CBJ. Nightie and bra came off and she hopped up on the table (after I asked). Overall not too bad. Would have liked a longer massage but she was a hot little Latina spinner so who was I to complain?

[QUOTE=Drgori;1450772]Great post for newbies! Are the girls in the ads the actual girls you'll see at the parlor?[/QUOTE]I have been at this a few years and the first thing I learned was if they show a pretty young girl you won't see her.

Check most of the sites and you will see the same girls from NY to Cal.

I suggest read these reviews and you won't go wrong.

If they are scored 1-10 is the best.

It is funny, to think how many times my wife has said she has a headache, I'm too tired, blah, blah blah. I gave up six years ago on her and I think she is happy. (still married just no sex)

The girls at the AMP's never have a headache, not too tired and yeah it cost me about a grand a month to feed the beast.

I actually have a regular, that does a lot of extra's and sometimes doesn't charge me as I buy her nice gifts, take her shopping etc.

I have had three regulars over the years that turn out to be fairly good friends with benifits.

When I look back on all the child support, house one x got, I could have paid for my habit and someone elses and been money ahead.

Now that is messed up.

Be safe and I hope each of you is as lucky as me to have one girl out of the bunch that actually likes me not for my benjimins.

Does anyone know of any good, reasonably priced Nuru providers? I saw the earlier post about Sonia but she wants $300! That is a crazy price!

Does anyone know anything about these two providers?

[url]http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/tantalizing-tempting-tantric-beauty-full-body-to-body-sensual-rub-25/16910738[/url]

[url]http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/a-touch-to-remember-full-body-to-body-tantra-body-rub-by-beautiful-goddess-25/17270287[/url]

I know for an absolute fact that the pictures in these two ads are not of the girl because when I searched them on images. Google. Com I found them on at least 20 different websites. They both say though that they do Nuru so even if it is not them I would be willing to try them if I could get some intel on them. I was not able to find any reviews of them on here or any other site so that is why I am a bit leary. Could they possibly be the dreaded uncle LEO?

[QUOTE=Tempe Jon; 1453027]Does anyone know anything about these two providers?

[url]http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/tantalizing-tempting-tantric-beauty-full-body-to-body-sensual-rub-25/16910738[/url]

[url]http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/a-touch-to-remember-full-body-to-body-tantra-body-rub-by-beautiful-goddess-25/17270287[/url]

I know for an absolute fact that the pictures in these two ads are not of the girl because when I searched them on images. Google. Com I found them on at least 20 different websites. They both say though that they do Nuru so even if it is not them I would be willing to try them if I could get some intel on them. I was not able to find any reviews of them on here or any other site so that is why I am a bit leary. Could they possibly be the dreaded uncle LEO?[/QUOTE]T Jon been asking about Nuru massages. Now you got me interested in them. Good luck and have

Un.

Had a recent dream of new girl Apple, Korean / Japanese mix, speaks good English, not DDG but cute, about 5'1, skinny and tone bod, natural As, nice apple shape butt. Not sure on her TS skills as Cindy took care of it. Her massage skills are out of this world, definitely knows what she's doing, head, neck, shoulder, feet areas. The extras were good but not great, not GFE. Might repeat and see if 2nd visit is better.

[QUOTE=Capn Morgan;1446794]MS Cindy introduced me to a new girl at M10 named Nikki. She's from Thailand. 4-foot-10, natural As, silky black hair and cute as a button.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tempe Jon; 1453027]Does anyone know anything about these two providers?

[url]http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/tantalizing-tempting-tantric-beauty-full-body-to-body-sensual-rub-25/16910738[/url]

[url]http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/a-touch-to-remember-full-body-to-body-tantra-body-rub-by-beautiful-goddess-25/17270287[/url]

I know for an absolute fact that the pictures in these two ads are not of the girl because when I searched them on images. Google. Com I found them on at least 20 different websites. They both say though that they do Nuru so even if it is not them I would be willing to try them if I could get some intel on them. I was not able to find any reviews of them on here or any other site so that is why I am a bit leary. Could they possibly be the dreaded uncle LEO?[/QUOTE]Wow, looks almost too good to be true. I'm on the road for work for the next couple months or I'd take a gamble. If you try either and they end up being anything like the pics, regardless of millage, please let me know.