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[QUOTE=Gotta Run;1705020]Yes but going to a hotel and having sex isn't illegal, however; Paying for the sex is. I serously doubt they would invest the amount of resources it would take to gather all that evidence anyway for just a misdemeanor. An example would be that if they subpoena the records from the card and have you purchasing the reload then it could be used to establis a money trail. Such investigations are expesive and LEO does have a limited amount of resoruces so at the end of the day it is a better justification of resoruces to setup stings and get several mongers or providers in a controlled enviorment where they pretty much have the evidence handed to them sometimes litterally.[/QUOte]Should a major crime occur at a hotel, all bets are off on who gets investigated. Security tapes will be examined in detail (including license plate images where available) , as would phone records, phone geolocation, etc.

Always turn off your primary phones before nearing a meeting point. Use your burner hobby phone on site. Not that I'm paranoid!

-Jeepster1

I'm a really cautious guy but I have never considered turning off my primary phone (w geolocation turned on always) as I just leave it in the car. Great tip!

Play safe, Greg.

[QUOTE=Jeepster1; 1705106]Should a major crime occur at a hotel, all bets are off on who gets investigated. Security tapes will be examined in detail (including license plate images where available) , as would phone records, phone geolocation, etc.

Always turn off your primary phones before nearing a meeting point. Use your burner hobby phone on site. Not that I'm paranoid!

-Jeepster1[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GregsRed; 1705147]I'm a really cautious guy but I have never considered turning off my primary phone (w geolocation turned on always) as I just leave it in the car. Great tip!

Play safe, Greg.[/QUOTE]Cellular carriers can triangulate your location with good accuracy whenever your phone is turned on. Turning on GPS increases accuracy, but in a city with many cell towers the triangulation can be within a few feet of the true location. So, just keep it turned off.

Triangulation works for all cell phones, not just smartphones. Your hobby phone will be tracked too, but if you set it up correctly it will have no personal info tying it to you. There are a couple of other hobby phone anonymity clues that I prefer not to share in a public forum.

Also, don't use your smartphone as a GPS to get location info for a meeting. Use a standalone GPS if needed, then wipe the history.

I would also suggest using a search engine other than Google on any device; it likes to add display ads based on your search term history. I was a mite embarassed recently when my PC kept showing ads for the hotel where I last met Lilly Whyte!

[QUOTE=Jeepster1;1704420]The scam potential enters the picture if a provider demands the card info prior to a meeting; if you are merely handing her the card during the meeting, then it would appear to present no risk. _ [b]A trusted provider I know uses these for all her hobby expenses; a prepaid card is less of a red flag to a hotel clerk than a stack of Benjamins.[/b] _ Similarly, a prepaid card is easier to keep secure and hidden if they are concerned about being ripped off by a customer.[/quote]Both very good valid points, & very smart precautions to be aware of!

[quote=Jeepster1;1704420][b]They may also believe that it might be easier for LEO to show proof of payment if they deal in cash.[/b][/quote]This idea is as mistaken as the idea that "if you ask the person if they are an under-cover cop they have to tell you that they are" is of any use whatsoever for avoiding arrest! [B]Once someone agrees {or offers} to exchamge anything of commercial, financial, or monetary value for any sex-act or for any genital-contact / sexual-contact they have already committed the crime of prostitution[/b] (or solicitation-of-prostitution in the case of the client accepting an offer or offering any exchange-of-value for sex)

[quote]Probably more reasons too, more member input appreciated! -Jeepster1[/QUOTE]As to the other issues about tracking the clients cell'phone or identifying him from hotel-surveillance-camera-recordings: if your spouse is suspicious enough to hire any private-investigator with the wherewithal to accomplish that then you're already in more trouble than you can survive! As for being identified because of an investigation of some serious crime that occurs in the hotel / motel around the time of your app't, or of being "back-traced" by tracking the purchase of the refill on the money-card confiscated from your provider by L' E' O's: if you are that worried about that miniscule & remote of a risk perhaps you should RE-evaluate your choice of provider! I personally prefer OUT-calls because I feel like I'm at much less risk if I control the location & the access! I'm not having any "traffic" to & from my room to draw any unwanted attention!

[QUOTE=Kyowa; 1705302]Both very good valid points, & very smart precautions to be aware of!

This idea is as mistaken as the idea that "if you ask the person if they are an under-cover cop they have to tell you that they are" is of any use whatsoever for avoiding arrest! [B]Once someone agrees {or offers} to exchamge anything of commercial, financial, or monetary value for any sex-act or for any genital-contact / sexual-contact they have already committed the crime of prostitution[/b] (or solicitation-of-prostitution in the case of the client accepting an offer or offering any exchange-of-value for sex)

As to the other issues about tracking the clients cell'phone or identifying him from hotel-surveillance-camera-recordings: if your spouse is suspicious enough to hire any private-investigator with the wherewithal to accomplish that then you're already in more trouble than you can survive! As for being identified because of an investigation of some serious crime that occurs in the hotel / motel around the time of your app't, or of being "back-traced" by tracking the purchase of the refill on the money-card confiscated from your provider by L' E' O's: if you are that worried about that miniscule & remote of a risk perhaps you should RE-evaluate your choice of provider! I personally prefer OUT-calls because I feel like I'm at much less risk if I control the location & the access! I'm not having any "traffic" to & from my room to draw any unwanted attention![/QUOTE]All good points.

I worked for many years doing high level security after I retired from the Army. There are lots of misconceptions about legal issues, safety measures etc. For example, turning off your phone will prevent it from being tracked. As long as it has a power source the underlying operations are still functioning. Ie. It can be pinged from a cell tower. You have to take out the battery. Turning it off will effectively hide it from snooping wives that may have apps or for the iphone, have your icloud account info and can use "find my phone", but the cell carrier can ping it as long as there is power.

Bear in mind though, that regardless of what you see on NCIS or CSI, it is not as simple as the Police geek rapidly typing on a keyboard and your location, every phone call you have ever made and if you are wearing clean undies pops up on screen. Basically they would have to make a request of the carrier, who is probably going to be reluctant to give it up because they don't want it to come back to bite them. It would be one thing if you were a terrorist, but if the only thing you are going jihad on is some girls fatwa, they probably aren't going to care enough to go to all the trouble.

I would be far more concerned with a girl and / or pimp trying to rip you off, or worse. As well as a set up sting. LEO is not going to have a team of hackers tracking you or send out the drones with hellfires for us. They are just going to set up a sting, post some BP ads and allow the weaker members of the herd to cull themselves.

That being said, there is no harm in being paranoid in this hobby.

[QUOTE=Blackhawk 101; 1703845]Well I was plnning a trip out west and trip over a name that many of us miss from a few years ago. Ms Erotic pleasure!

Not sure if it was ever discussed what happened to her. She was a great erotic massage provider and was always fun to talk to.

Looks like she still helps out in the hobby from time to time.

I starting to thnk. Go West Young Man![/QUOTE]I always wondered what happened to her BH. I really liked her. She was an awesome person!

[QUOTE=Steve4Action; 1704342]I miss her. She was a very nice lady and provided a an erotic experience second to none. I hope she is living large and in charge! I wish there were more providers like her in our market. I'm getting tired of the drive to Alabama where such pleasures are still in plentiful supply.

Steve[/QUOTE]Well hello Steve! I have not seen this handle for awhile. LOL

[QUOTE=Jeepster1; 1704420]The scam potential enters the picture if a provider demands the card info prior to a meeting. If you are merely handing her the card during the meeting, then it would appear to present no risk.

A trusted provider I know uses these for all her hobby expenses; a prepaid card is less of a red flag to a hotel clerk than a stack of Benjamins.

Similarly, a prepaid card is easier to keep secure and hidden if they are concerned about being ripped off by a customer. They may also believe that it might be easier for LEO to show proof of payment if they deal in cash.

Probably more reasons too, more member input appreciated!

-Jeepster1[/QUOTE]The provider wanted me to get a 100$ greendot card then call or text her with the pin #or deposit on seeing someone in a hotel said she don't usually go to hotels and would collect the rest of donation upon arrival. Wanted to see her but didn't want to lose a 100$ so I passed

[QUOTE=Blazer615;1705924]The provider wanted me to get a 100$ greendot card then call or text her with the pin #or deposit on seeing someone in a hotel said she don't usually go to hotels and would collect the rest of donation upon arrival. Wanted to see her but didn't want to lose a 100$ so I passed[/QUOTE]That is pretty much the MO of the scammers. You most likely would have never saw anyone once they got the number.

[QUOTE=Gotta Run;1705974]That is pretty much the MO of the scammers. You most likely would have never saw anyone once they got the number.[/QUOTE]A fool and his money is soon parted; NEVER NEVER provide any money in advance. In fact I never give the money in advance to the provider and if she insists I leave. I always put it in plain sight where both parties can see the donation for time. But you have to be in charge and remember you are the client; they are the service provider. But prepared to walk!

BobJones2011

[url]http://nashville.backpage.com/BodyRubs/misty-enjoy-a-sensual-rubdown-33/7238417[/url]

Anyone know if this is real? She looks like a dream.

[QUOTE=Kiyakubuke;1705579]I worked for many years doing high level security after I retired from the Army. There are lots of misconceptions about legal issues, safety measures, etc. _ [b]I would be far more concerned with a girl and / or pimp trying to rip you off, or worse.[/b][/quote]But it is amazing how many guys seem to be more worried about the possibility of being involved with any L' E' O' investigation, or being "outed" by their "hobbying" being made public knowledge, than they are about the possibility of being assaulted + robbed!

[quote=Kiyakubuke;1705579]As well as a set up sting. [B]LEO is not going to have a team of hackers tracking you or send out the drones with hellfires for us.[/b]They are just going to set up a sting, post some BP ads and allow the weaker members of the herd to cull themselves. _ [b]That being said, there is no harm in being paranoid in this hobby.[/b][/QUOTE]But how many guys will risk blindly walking into some "notel"motel-room or an apartment or house in some "hinky" neighborhood, where god-knows-who could be hiding in the bathroom or around a corner or behind a big piece of furniture, just because they couldn't find any bad reviews of the ad on here + they talked on the 'phone to some "nice"sounding female-voice?

[QUOTE=Daboyz22; 1706085][url]http://nashville.backpage.com/BodyRubs/misty-enjoy-a-sensual-rubdown-33/7238417[/url]

Anyone know if this is real? She looks like a dream.[/QUOTE]I have spoken to this one on 3 different occassions. But my Spidey senses have been going off on this. If you research BP she has 3 ads (that I knew of) and multiple names. Additonally telephone number comes back with zero hits. So maybe she is okay but I will wait until someone else TOFTT.

BobJones2011

Anyone seen or heard from Lilly Whyte lately?

I was trading emails with her last week and she abruptly stopped responding. I hope she is ok?

Play safe, Greg.

[QUOTE=Sleaze;1707334]Anyone seen or heard from Lilly Whyte lately?[/QUOTE]