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[QUOTE=RanManCan;6297353]I don't think that's it. I have one photo with face blurred, and I'm getting very good results. I have more than I can handle at the moment, they're all wondering why I'm so busy all the time.

If you like, PM me your opening messages and I'll give a critique.[/QUOTE]Does the salary you put on your Seeking profile matter? Do a lot of girls weed out less than 500 k or mil? I have it higher than average (200 k), and higher than my actual salary but not too high that SBs don't think I'm excessively lieing. Or does it not matter and a high salary attracts tons of GPS and those wanting excessive gifts? Out of curiosity I've been lurking this LA Seeking thread and others across the country to compare how everyone's local scene is. Seems it really is just mostly misses on this site and few hits. I was worried it was just in my area, Phoenix / Scottsdale, Arizona.

[QUOTE=KingStannis;6300832]Does the salary you put on your Seeking profile matter? Do a lot of girls weed out less than 500 k or mil? I have it higher than average (200 k), and higher than my actual salary but not too high that SBs don't think I'm excessively lieing. Or does it not matter and a high salary attracts tons of GPS and those wanting excessive gifts? Out of curiosity I've been lurking this LA Seeking thread and others across the country to compare how everyone's local scene is. Seems it really is just mostly misses on this site and few hits. I was worried it was just in my area, Phoenix / Scottsdale, Arizona.[/QUOTE]I think most of them are more concerned about what you'll give them than what you make.

Lots of hits in LA, and when I'm in your backyard! Plenty of ASU girls happy to give it up.

[QUOTE=KingStannis;6300832]Does the salary you put on your Seeking profile matter? Do a lot of girls weed out less than 500 k or mil? I have it higher than average (200 k), and higher than my actual salary but not too high that SBs don't think I'm excessively lieing. Or does it not matter and a high salary attracts tons of GPS and those wanting excessive gifts? Out of curiosity I've been lurking this LA Seeking thread and others across the country to compare how everyone's local scene is. Seems it really is just mostly misses on this site and few hits. I was worried it was just in my area, Phoenix / Scottsdale, Arizona.[/QUOTE]People complain about the misses, publicly. If they have hits, they keep quiet or keep them to themselves. Some here have been known to criticize others for 'bragging'.

I don't think the net worth or salary matters, I have been on the site years, and it has never come up in any messaging in any context. That doesn't mean a girl doesn't look at that. In the old days, girls could list their allowance expectations, based on adjectives (but then there was a key you could locate somewhere else that told you what those were). The lowest adjective, though, I think it was 'practical', it was something like 2000/ mo, so it was pretty divorced from reality. It contributed to GPS for sure, and just made girls disappointed. I'm sure you have read profiles where she complains guys weren't 'real SDs' - I think that is what they mean.

And IK quite a few girls I made contact here who relocated to the PHX area, I wish I had access to them.

[QUOTE=Spector888;6299940]Scammer link update on 1/16/23. Appears she deletes and makes new accounts a lot.[/QUOTE]PrettySocialite.

And a new profile. . . [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/37f1f70e-1cd0-4e2d-b45b-3fda96819987[/URL].

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6301380] I don't think the net worth or salary matters, I have been on the site years, and it has never come up in any messaging in any context. That doesn't mean a girl doesn't look at that. In the old days, girls could list their allowance expectations, based on adjectives (but then there was a key you could locate somewhere else that told you what those were). [/QUOTE][QUOTE=RanManCan;6301105]I think most of them are more concerned about what you'll give them than what you make.

Lots of hits in LA, and when I'm in your backyard! Plenty of ASU girls happy to give it up.[/QUOTE]Thanks you two for the insight! I was worried maybe I didn't have my salary high enough in my profile. And RanManCan, ASU girls in Phoenix have become harder to come by, more competitive to attract, and more expensive unfortunately.

[QUOTE=RanManCan;6301480]PrettySocialite.

And a new profile. . . [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/37f1f70e-1cd0-4e2d-b45b-3fda96819987[/URL].[/QUOTE]Just make sure you guys keep reporting her and getting her blocked, LOL, good stuff.

[QUOTE=KingStannis;6300832]Does the salary you put on your Seeking profile matter? Do a lot of girls weed out less than 500 k or mil? I have it higher than average (200 k), and higher than my actual salary but not too high that SBs don't think I'm excessively lieing. Or does it not matter and a high salary attracts tons of GPS and those wanting excessive gifts? Out of curiosity I've been lurking this LA Seeking thread and others across the country to compare how everyone's local scene is. Seems it really is just mostly misses on this site and few hits. I was worried it was just in my area, Phoenix / Scottsdale, Arizona.[/QUOTE]Honestly I lie in the other direction. Hear me out. My profile says 250 k /1. 5 mm. My actual is 400 k /6 mm-ish. The reason I lie is that you have no idea who's on the other side of the transaction. I take precautions, but if I were ever to be blackmailed, you don't get bonus points for having more resources.

[QUOTE=KingStannis;6302297]Thanks you two for the insight! I was worried maybe I didn't have my salary high enough in my profile. And RanManCan, ASU girls in Phoenix have become harder to come by, more competitive to attract, and more expensive unfortunately.[/QUOTE]I have my salary and net worth at the lowest level possible. I always did that even when it was much more. No girl cares how much you have. Only how much you are willing to spend.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6301380]People complain about the misses, publicly. If they have hits, they keep quiet or keep them to themselves. Some here have been known to criticize others for 'bragging'.

I don't think the net worth or salary matters, I have been on the site years, and it has never come up in any messaging in any context. That doesn't mean a girl doesn't look at that. In the old days, girls could list their allowance expectations, based on adjectives (but then there was a key you could locate somewhere else that told you what those were). The lowest adjective, though, I think it was 'practical', it was something like 2000/ mo, so it was pretty divorced from reality. It contributed to GPS for sure, and just made girls disappointed. I'm sure you have read profiles where she complains guys weren't 'real SDs' - I think that is what they mean.

And IK quite a few girls I made contact here who relocated to the PHX area, I wish I had access to them.[/QUOTE]They had under 1 k / mo as the lowest at practical, then did a range that doubled it each level I think because high maintenance was like 10 k or some crazy thing I think. I came from a cheaper area and you'd get 4 meets in for around the lowest monthly out there and everything was fine. It DID lead to some odd misunderstandings though when someone put that, then expected 1 k for the 1 day a month they could meet for free! And that's when I learned to start talking about it up front instead of the end of a platonic meeting because that was a wasted date.

The bigger deal was you could be flat out honest about what you wanted and were looking for via SA messages. Now I tell any girl that even comes close to mentioning ppm or $ that we need to talk via text and I won't respond on SA or get banned (as a few years worth of reading messages shows how clueless some guys here were just blatantly saying it after the rules changes and bans came!

[QUOTE=Ajfff;6303345]They had under 1 k / mo as the lowest at practical, then did a range that doubled it each level I think because high maintenance was like 10 k or some crazy thing I think. I came from a cheaper area and you'd get 4 meets in for around the lowest monthly out there and everything was fine. It DID lead to some odd misunderstandings though when someone put that, then expected 1 k for the 1 day a month they could meet for free! And that's when I learned to start talking about it up front instead of the end of a platonic meeting because that was a wasted date.

The bigger deal was you could be flat out honest about what you wanted and were looking for via SA messages. Now I tell any girl that even comes close to mentioning ppm or $ that we need to talk via text and I won't respond on SA or get banned (as a few years worth of reading messages shows how clueless some guys here were just blatantly saying it after the rules changes and bans came![/QUOTE]Just to be clear, that change wasn't SA's fault, it was FOSTA-SESTA, which came out of the backpage debacle. Now that it is the law, all sites are vulnerable to be taken down if they allow people to do what BP did, and so SA is going to be on the prowl for anything even remotely like pay-for-play to cover their ass.

I see the same thing here but as a counter point, I have only ever discussed money before exchanging contact info.

I'm just never explicit. I say things like €\$ to "join me back at my hotel till morning. ".

Never once had an issue.

[QUOTE=Ajfff;6303345]
The bigger deal was you could be flat out honest about what you wanted and were looking for via SA messages. Now I tell any girl that even comes close to mentioning ppm or $ that we need to talk via text and I won't respond on SA or get banned (as a few years worth of reading messages shows how clueless some guys here were just blatantly saying it after the rules changes and bans came![/QUOTE]

Heavens_on_earth.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/880cfc93-66c4-4406-9335-b91218d53bc1[/URL]

Very hot, good comms, decent personality, no BJ, but I got BBFS (YMMV), "not very sexual" by her own words. 1 k, which would be worth it based on looks, but not based on performance. You can probably get lower.

She wanted to hangout again, but I pointed out the limitations and offered 6, she didn't bite.

Lives in palm springs, but drives to LA / OC a few times a week.

[QUOTE=RanManCan;6303829]Heavens_on_earth.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/880cfc93-66c4-4406-9335-b91218d53bc1[/URL]

Very hot, good comms, decent personality, no BJ, but I got BBFS (YMMV), "not very sexual" by her own words. 1 k, which would be worth it based on looks, but not based on performance. You can probably get lower.

She wanted to hangout again, but I pointed out the limitations and offered 6, she didn't bite.

Lives in palm springs, but drives to LA / OC a few times a week.[/QUOTE]Did she sleep over? Did you hit it multiples times?

[QUOTE=Omfgitzjin;6303875]Did she sleep over? Did you hit it multiples times?[/QUOTE]No and No. Takes me a few hours for multiples, and I don't invite first-timers to stay the night.

Aliceinsugar asks for $1 k, accepted offer of $800 but video call first.

On video call, she was pleasant, located in Manhattan Beach, has a car, had several arrangements, and pretty but not as hot as her well-selected pics.

Then she brought up condoms are required even in long term, she wouldn't budge on this. Not for me.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5819bfa6-a404-44ec-89f6-df72ce552b4b[/URL]

[QUOTE=RanManCan;6305426]Aliceinsugar asks for $1 k, accepted offer of $800 but video call first.

On video call, she was pleasant, located in Manhattan Beach, has a car, had several arrangements, and pretty but not as hot as her well-selected pics.

Then she brought up condoms are required even in long term, she wouldn't budge on this. Not for me.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5819bfa6-a404-44ec-89f6-df72ce552b4b[/URL][/QUOTE]LOL Funny when she first started out a couple years ago she was a new to town easy $200 bbfscip. 2 years in LA doing * and now she's up her own ass.

I turned my seeking account to paused yesterday. Considering my finances are low and that I have 3 regulars (all out of towners though) and one local regular and a few on deck. It's time to take a break.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/db97ee50-569f-47fe-93b0-f30b43c3dff2[/URL]

Lots of texting and messaging on the site, not really able to get her to take a phone call or meet up.

I had an arrangement with this one for several months when I first joined SA. This was a pic from when she was a Playboy model in her 20's. When I met her she was 40, listed 30 on her SA profile, and I didn't care. She was smoking hot, and those boobs, they are 100% natural. Amazing. No longer in the SB game, for years. I text her now and then.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6308974][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/db97ee50-569f-47fe-93b0-f30b43c3dff2[/URL]

Lots of texting and messaging on the site, not really able to get her to take a phone call or meet up.[/QUOTE]Try getting them to take the bdsmtest.org and see if you are a match.

Any of you ballers smashing this hottie in OC? I'm blocked by her but her profile says "never disappoints" 26 yo but she's really 19 yo. She's a freak and command big bucks. Do share if you're smashing it. LOL.

I've been on here for awhile but can't log on to my original account as I forgot the pass and couldn't reset it.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6312094]I had an arrangement with this one for several months when I first joined SA. This was a pic from when she was a Playboy model in her 20's. When I met her she was 40, listed 30 on her SA profile, and I didn't care. She was smoking hot, and those boobs, they are 100% natural. Amazing. No longer in the SB game, for years. I text her now and then.[/QUOTE]In the event that this was your SB, you did hit the lottery. Simple Tineye on this image gives name of this playmate. Funny that you call them natural. Just a quick perusal on the other photos in the playmate photo set says 100% man made. Curious why you would claim natural.

[URL]https://pmatehunter.com/kimber-cox-lavender-lust/[/URL]

[QUOTE=SteveTandberg;6312525]In the event that this was your SB, you did hit the lottery. Simple Tineye on this image gives name of this playmate. Funny that you call them natural. Just a quick perusal on the other photos in the playmate photo set says 100% man made. Curious why you would claim natural.

[URL]https://pmatehunter.com/kimber-cox-lavender-lust/[/URL][/QUOTE]I did know her name, and found that photo myself. She alluded to a modeling past but didn't brag about / disclose the venue. She got more tattoos later, but they matched up. I did get a pic from her later, here's a snippet that should be anonymous. I can say this girl's 100% natural, I inspected them closely on many occasions, and quite amazing. Especially for 40.

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[QUOTE=TooShay;6312294]Any of you ballers smashing this hottie in OC? I'm blocked by her but her profile says "never disappoints" 26 yo but she's really 19 yo. She's a freak and command big bucks. Do share if you're smashing it. LOL.

I've been on here for awhile but can't log on to my original account as I forgot the pass and couldn't reset it.[/QUOTE]Wasn't able to find her profile. Any other details you can provide?

Would you guys mind posting photos when posting links so this of us who don't have a subscription see what we're missing and potentially sign up? I post pictures when referencing a provider in the threads I participate in. TIA.

[QUOTE=Drooo;6313624]Would you guys mind posting photos when posting links so this of us who don't have a subscription see what we're missing and potentially sign up? I post pictures when referencing a provider in the threads I participate in. TIA.[/QUOTE]There's some risk to doing this w / girls we are currently seeing. HG has mentioned why he doesn't do it anymore. If you haven't seen someone in years, then it is OK, but that isn't what you're asking. I think everyone here has some hot pics of an ex though.

[QUOTE=Drooo;6313624]Would you guys mind posting photos when posting links so this of us who don't have a subscription see what we're missing and potentially sign up? I post pictures when referencing a provider in the threads I participate in. TIA.[/QUOTE]I think for some of us paid subscribers (we spend just over a $ a month for that privilege), we feel like we put in the work & the money. You get all the advice and stories and you already know seeking has a lot of hot girls. So why should we give freebie pics to non-subscribers? I am always amazed that a guy that spends whatever amount per month on pussy can't pop a $ to be a member and see for themselves.

I used to be a prolific pic poster. Not anymore.

I posted a while back about an accomplished 40 ish businesswoman I met from SA. FCed w / her again yesterday, the quality is still there. She is as into it as I am, gets a kick out of picking out a sexy lingerie package to start out in. Showed new facets yesterday, rolling waves of climaxes from DATY, decided to straddle and tease me cowgirl, like she was going to bareback (but neither of us do that), asking what I'd like, including COF and COB. Good communicator, expressed appreciation for our 'friendship', mentioned everyone should have a 'playmate' like we do. I am just going w / the flow, I don't have an active SA subscription (of course I like to browse) so I am not looking for anyone else. She is starting to share a little more personal stuff, congratulated me sincerely for a success. It's a long game.

[QUOTE=ChefSolo;6313389]Wasn't able to find her profile. Any other details you can provide?[/QUOTE]Profile say 26, Latina in Costa Mesa. If you got the money, she's worth every penny. Trust me.

While l'm disappointed I understand your pov.

Nevertheless I will continue to share photos.

I wasn't looking for freebies, only to gauge the type / quality before spending time and effort to connect with a SB. A hottie to you might not be a hottie to me.

But to each his own.

No biggie.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;6313951]I think for some of us paid subscribers (we spend just over a $ a month for that privilege), we feel like we put in the work & the money. You get all the advice and stories and you already know seeking has a lot of hot girls. So why should we give freebie pics to non-subscribers? I am always amazed that a guy that spends whatever amount per month on pussy can't pop a $ to be a member and see for themselves.

I used to be a prolific pic poster. Not anymore.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;6303253] No girl cares how much you have. Only how much you are willing to spend.[/QUOTE]Correct, some of the girls ask what you paid in your previous arrangements while some straight up say I usually do 400 to 600 depending on how many times we meet.

And how long we hang out.

Usually I do not negotiate and say I will get back to you if it is too high and if they are interested enough they get back with a lower rate which is reasonable, else it is okay.

Just need to hang around and a new girl shows up on SA.

[QUOTE=Drooo;6314613]While l'm disappointed I understand your pov.

Nevertheless I will continue to share photos.

I wasn't looking for freebies, only to gauge the type / quality before spending time and effort to connect with a SB. A hottie to you might not be a hottie to me.

But to each his own.

No biggie.[/QUOTE]If you saw a pic and used that as a reason to join seeking, that would not necessarily be a good idea. The reason being that many of the girls on there are quite flakey and even though one guy had a good experience, you may join and then never even meet that girl due to a variety of reasons.

Seeking is a huge #'s game. It sometimes takes many inquiries to land a girl (any girl). I mean some are easy to reach one day and then impossible the next. Depending on your reasons and the type of girl you are looking for, a month membership may line you up with a dozen girls, or it might take a few months to really cherry pick a long term prospect.

I used to take the shotgun approach and fuck 10 different girls a month knowing that about 1 out of like 30+ girls might be a keeper. Now I use a targeted approach to really focus in on what I want. That can easily take weeks or months.

The most recent girl I have found who physically is at least a 9. I actually met on Tiktok. While it is not a sugar date per se, there will still be some expenses like airfare, dinners and gifts. Estimated cost for the weekend maybe 6 bills or more (only because she will be staying at my place). Getting 3 days out of it. Just made the plane res today. Will report back after its all said and done. Hoping for a once a month 3 day weekend with her going forward.

In 15 years on seeking I have fucked maybe 300 girls. Five or six turned into actual GF's (lived with 3 of them). Had a few more that were LT booty calls (one to two years). And I had three more that lived with me for at least a year that were not GF's and had their own room. And more than a few overlapped. But my ultimate goal is always to try and find a GF type or a booty call that just keeps getting better over time. Because the best sex overall I have ever had was never a one night stand.

[QUOTE=NapataJohn;6314644]Correct, some of the girls ask what you paid in your previous arrangements while some straight up say I usually do 400 to 600 depending on how many times we meet.

And how long we hang out.

Usually I do not negotiate and say I will get back to you if it is too high and if they are interested enough they get back with a lower rate which is reasonable, else it is okay.

Just need to hang around and a new girl shows up on SA.[/QUOTE]You seem to have more experience w / this than you post. I always defer allowance discussions as long as possible and make the girl go first. They will always have a lower ask. No one wants to be rejected to their face. I agree, negotiating isn't easy, you have to be close to the same page. At a recent M&G, the girl told me she was getting 3 K / mo from a stupid lawyer in LA. Even though their arrangement failed because his wife caught on, and I am a very different proposition in terms of knowledge and safety (=reliable as a SD), I couldn't imagine her ever being satisfied w / what I could provide financially. So I just excused myself from her pursuit.

I think it can be a good strategy to talk about a monthly amount (which of course is always larger) and put that in the context of # of meets (I usually say 3 x / mo, because I can only get away from home / work about weekly, then she will be out of commission one week w / her monthly). Excluding whether someone will do an overnight, I think that the amount of time a girl will spend in the FC is an inappropriate topic for negotiation. Sugar dating is supposed to be GFE, time and menu are for escorts. I expect an open menu from a SB (other than anal, which I am not interested in anyway). I usually get a day use hotel room (the girl actually books it and I reimburse her), I expect to get there around 9 am and stay until noon.

[QUOTE=NapataJohn;6314644]Correct, some of the girls ask what you paid in your previous arrangements while some straight up say I usually do 400 to 600 depending on how many times we meet.

And how long we hang out.

Usually I do not negotiate and say I will get back to you if it is too high and if they are interested enough they get back with a lower rate which is reasonable, else it is okay.

Just need to hang around and a new girl shows up on SA.[/QUOTE]The question about what have you done in previous arrangements is a common way to broach the issue. I don't think it is relevant and say that. What did you pay for your last car? Do you expect to pay the same for the one you are trying to buy today? They aren't the same and the market isn't the same.

If they really persist in this I can tell a girl about my last truly long-term arrangement, where I was giving her 1 K / mo for 3 meets (but we would have coffee the week she was on her period, because we genuinely like each other). That # isn't going to make many girls swoon. It is honest though. And she was good w / that from our first M&G. She was definitely into me, I'll be forever grateful for that. And I am 40 years her senior.

Hi guys,

Fellow monger here but I have an opportunity for you.

A good friend of mine is looking for a new sugar daddy in Los Angeles. She is super sexy and will share pics and verify in DM. She is 28 yo, 5'5", 115 lbs, tight body, very pretty face. Years of successful karaoke girl experience.

I am doing this cause she trusts me explicitly and would like me to vet all candidates. I will NOT be involved after vetting.

She is looking for a monthly arrangement with a set number of dates. Ranging from quick meetups to dates to overnights.

Not going to renew subscription, don't really see any new talent wanting sugar to pay off those holiday debts but whatever, I'll get back on in the near future.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;6308175]I turned my seeking account to paused yesterday. Considering my finances are low and that I have 3 regulars (all out of towners though) and one local regular and a few on deck. It's time to take a break.[/QUOTE]

Wondering if anyone met Ell / Rossys.

SB. Profile name: Rossys - [URL]https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/6f0821b1fa1cd8fd[/URL].

SA. Profile name: Ell - [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/eac2abde-28ad-4b4d-999d-5ad625503883[/URL] (says deactivated from my account).

Feel free to DM or post.

I remember seeing posts that if a girl replied saying "hun" or a few other pet names that it was somehow indicative of their pro status. IDK about that, but if they start out calling you "dear" they are definitely an outside the USA scammer. How they came to believe that they should use that word I am not sure but I laugh anytime I see it. And thanks for the heads up young lady or man or whatever.

Anyone come across this SB, Arlene?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e26bb49a-ff0b-46be-bc92-e45c9b340a64[/URL]

Interacts and then ghosts.