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Niko at Spa 9: very attractive and slim, but shapely hips. Early 30's. One hour. Fun flirty, not fake seductress flirty, very thorough shower and massage. We shared dinner together and I left a. 8 tip. Would definitely return.
[QUOTE=Dabbler99;4426682]I haven't met Niko; what can you tell us about her?[/QUOTE]
Couldn't resist, went to see Katie this am. Got there at 9. 30 and had to wait in Lobby for 10 minutes. Awkward watching other mongers come in and get sent away while others that were inside left. Anyway notbsure why so busy but got in and only got half hour. Awsome time. Spent a good 15 knocking the man out of the boat before the finale. Katie has the best rack on the circuit that I am aware of. And I visit many. Total damage 1. 6.
I visited Star Massage yesterday based on a review on this board 2 weeks ago.
I set an appointment and asked for Sophia. The masseuse was very slender, small breast, tatoo on abdomen, probably 50 ish. She was very sweet, however, wanted 140 FS. The massage was so-so. I have paid far less and got hotter service at other locations in Tucson.
Hey all, long time reader; first time poster. Went to sun for the first time around the afternoon and drew Kaylee. I wanted to see her for the h but she just kept saying "hh kk". Massage was decent but she did roll out my knots. On the flip there was just a chest massage and done. Felt like she was rushing me out. So on top of the house, I just left a Jackson. Not sure if I'd come back. Might be because I'm a new visitor. Who knows. YMMV I guess.
-Hunter.
[QUOTE=HorsePecker52;4427161] It was just. She didn't seem like she was all there.[/QUOTE]HP, you missed the role reversal thought in its entirety. And you are correct, none of them want to be there. They are trafficked and trapped, living a life that you likely would not choose.
[QUOTE=NotPhatAz;4429750]HP, you missed the role reversal thought in its entirety. And you are correct, none of them want to be there. They are trafficked and trapped, living a life that you likely would not choose.[/QUOTE]You don't know that. You don't know that at all. I'm sure it happens, but that's not the case with all the girls, or even a majority of them. I was speaking to one at 9 Spa who said she worked at the nasty you Like Buffet on Oracle and a friend recommended 9 Spa to her, saying she could make a lot more money, so she took it. I've had conversations with other AMP workers where it was clear they were there by choice. Please don't assume just because someone works at an AMP means they're trafficked. That's the stupid kind of thinking that shut down Tui Na, and just generally makes cops harass our hobby when in reality they have far more important things they should be looking after.
[QUOTE=Uncivil;4429855]You don't know that. You don't know that at all. I'm sure it happens, but that's not the case with all the girls, or even a majority of them. I was speaking to one at 9 Spa who said she worked at the nasty you Like Buffet on Oracle and a friend recommended 9 Spa to her, saying she could make a lot more money, so she took it. I've had conversations with other AMP workers where it was clear they were there by choice. Please don't assume just because someone works at an AMP means they're trafficked. That's the stupid kind of thinking that shut down Tui Na, and just generally makes cops harass our hobby when in reality they have far more important things they should be looking after.[/QUOTE]My 2 cents, I don't think I've ever talked with one that wasn't there by choice. Not saying it never happens but when they usually tell me they are saving up to own a business or something, I just imagine it was a way to make quick cash.
[QUOTE=DkPersonal;4430351]My 2 cents, I don't think I've ever talked with one that wasn't there by choice. Not saying it never happens but when they usually tell me they are saving up to own a business or something, I just imagine it was a way to make quick cash.[/QUOTE]I concur. I am not saying that there isn't sex trafficing or that every sex worker is doing it voluntarily. But I will say that I have had several friends (outside of their outside of their official work duties) who were / are sex workers. Some just did it for the money. One was working her way through her BS degree. And one worked her way up to a MS in Sociology and is planning on becoming an official sex surrogate.
Agreed, 100%. As others have said, it happens but if some of them like you and want to do OTC without asking a dime, then I don't think it's a trafficking situation.
[QUOTE=Uncivil;4429855]You don't know that. You don't know that at all. I'm sure it happens, but that's not the case with all the girls, or even a majority of them. I was speaking to one at 9 Spa who said she worked at the nasty you Like Buffet on Oracle and a friend recommended 9 Spa to her, saying she could make a lot more money, so she took it. I've had conversations with other AMP workers where it was clear they were there by choice. Please don't assume just because someone works at an AMP means they're trafficked. That's the stupid kind of thinking that shut down Tui Na, and just generally makes cops harass our hobby when in reality they have far more important things they should be looking after.[/QUOTE]
Are you saying that all of us that visit AMPs are contributing to trafficking of women for sex?
[QUOTE=NotPhatAz;4429750]HP, you missed the role reversal thought in its entirety. And you are correct, none of them want to be there. They are trafficked and trapped, living a life that you likely would not choose.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Achmed46;4430619]Are you saying that all of us that visit AMPs are contributing to trafficking of women for sex?[/QUOTE]I am comfortable with any conclusions your extrapolations reveal.
I went to go see Eva. There was a sign on the front of AA massage that said they're closed for the summer, and that they would reopen on 9/23. I was disappointed, but I wanted to see someone, so I drove across town.
My original intention was go to Sun. But, I drove by Fuzu on the way and decided to take a chance there.
My first visit there. I parked in the back. As someone else stated, it's far too isolated. But, I thought that was better than having my vehicle visible from the street.
I drew Lulu. Late 40's, maybe 50's.
The massage part actually wasn't all that bad. She was annoying me greatly by asking "you okay" ever 15 seconds. But, that aside, a pretty good massage.
On the flip, at first we had negotiated. 8 for BBBJ. Then she got totally nude. The rest of her body wasn't much to look at. But, her rack was fucking amazing. If I were to rank every provide I've seen in my life in order of breast quality, Lulu would easily make the top five.
The BBBJ itself wasn't all that great. She wouldn't go very deep. I reached out and touched her pussy, and it was soaked. I asked if she had a condom. She did, and only charged me. 2 more for FS.
The FS was also disappointing. She wouldn't take me deep in that orifice, either. Since this wasn't doing it for me, I got her off of me, removed the cover, and asked her to return to BBBJ. She did, sort of. She cheated with her hands a lot.
So, I doubt I would repeat. As nice as her breasts are, I need more than eye candy. I need to go deep! And, Lulu just wasn't having it.
Drew Mimi can confirm low quality all around. If you draw her recommend walking away. Not worth time or.
Finally got them while they were open. I think someone had said they weren't legit, but I dunno, they seemed pretty legit. Two older women, I guess I got the better looking of the 2 except that's not saying much. Massage was like a 7. 5 out of 10, good enough that it was relaxing but felt like she spent more time on my shoulders and less time on legs. When it came to the flip, not even a graze or tease or anything, oh well, can't win them all. And yes, golf links and harrison.
[QUOTE=NotPhatAz;4430677]I am comfortable with any conclusions your extrapolations reveal.[/QUOTE]I recently saw this post. I found it credible.
[URL]https://www.quora.com/Is-there-human-trafficking-that-goes-on-at-massage-places?fbclid=IwAR3h9_YKerQF2Xr55vDR3RE57AChQZP6e6A5WsZVn1q0p4Xkq1lRnY-f-KQ[/URL]
Draw your own conclusions, of course. The information and conclusions of this article are coincident with my observations over many years. In several states.
[QUOTE=Evan8571;4435403] ...I found it credible.
[/QUOTE]Completely lacking credibility, and the author is incredulous:
"Are the masseuses licensed? Usually yes. ".
[QUOTE=NotPhatAz;4435504]Completely lacking credibility, and the author is incredulous:
"Are the masseuses licensed? Usually yes. ".[/QUOTE]The author states he based his conclusions on direct interaction with AMP employees.
May I ask what you base your conclusions upon?
Mimi is a No No at Rain. I also had experience with her. Older, skinny, no boobs, no ass. Tip her .4 for HJ, massage was weak, lack of pressure, and she doesn't even know where to push like other girls. On the flip, HJ was weak, touching but she will move away.
Sasha at Az Spa has moved, new girl Cherry, anyone has seen her?
[QUOTE=Ternymph;4435212]Drew Mimi can confirm low quality all around. If you draw her recommend walking away. Not worth time or.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Evan8571;4435403]I recently saw this post. I found it credible.
[URL]https://www.quora.com/Is-there-human-trafficking-that-goes-on-at-massage-places?fbclid=IwAR3h9_YKerQF2Xr55vDR3RE57AChQZP6e6A5WsZVn1q0p4Xkq1lRnY-f-KQ[/URL]
Draw your own conclusions, of course. The information and conclusions of this article are coincident with my observations over many years. In several states.[/QUOTE]Aw heck, here's my two cents. Providers are always moving from place to place. I don't think they're in once place long enough for it to be worth getting licensed. But also because they're traveling so much, they'll need proper I'd to fly, which means at least a green card or passport. Trafficking usually involves a boss holding those essentially for ransome. I don't that's happening in most places.
I tend to agree mongers. I found the author's article spot on, though I agree, many do not have a license. Having dated a few AMP workers I can say that all of this is accurate, especially his income estimates as well as the business ownership and structure. If anything, he is short on the average number of customers in a day. One I know was doing between ten and fourteen a day. That is a lot of money, for sure. What is interesting is that he is right that it is often the employee who wants to offer more than HJ's to make more money, but the house doesn't want the risk.
[QUOTE=Evan8571;4435943]The author states he based his conclusions on direct interaction with AMP employees.
May I ask what you base your conclusions upon?[/QUOTE]
Went to 9 Spa today. Saw Lily, very pretty, young and all natural, from Beijing. Does it all, you need to negotiate, I won't help there. I have never seen a prettier and more nice girl in one of these places. Enjoy.
[QUOTE=JBTanker;4436658]Went to 9 Spa today. Saw Lily, very pretty, young and all natural, from Beijing. Does it all, you need to negotiate, I won't help there. I have never seen a prettier and more nice girl in one of these places. Enjoy.[/QUOTE]Can you expand. Often reported here there are clear limits.
[QUOTE=Evan8571;4435943]The author states he based his conclusions on direct interaction with AMP employees.
May I ask what you base your conclusions upon?[/QUOTE]But of course.
[QUOTE=NotPhatAz;4437257]But of course.[/QUOTE]Then do so.
[QUOTE=Ternymph;4436953]Can you expand. Often reported here there are clear limits.[/QUOTE]I think that there is no limit, wasn't one for me anyway.
[QUOTE=Ternymph;4436953]Can you expand. Often reported here there are clear limits.[/QUOTE]I always thought the limits were bullshit. I mean, the door is closed and locked. Who is going to know, and how are they going to know?
100% agree, but like the rest, I've never had any luck with getting the full menu. If they did, they would make a fortune.
[QUOTE=Uncivil;4437479]I always thought the limits were bullshit. I mean, the door is closed and locked. Who is going to know, and how are they going to know?[/QUOTE]
Does anyone know wher I can go to get a massage that includes the girl walking on your back?? Please reply of PM me. Thanks!!
[QUOTE=GreatExpecta;4437672]Does anyone know wher I can go to get a massage that includes the girl walking on your back?? Please reply of PM me. Thanks!![/QUOTE]Most of the places discussed in this forum will. Anywhere you've seen the parallel bars over the massage table, they will, but in my experience you have to ask for it. Even places without them, I've had a provider just move the table closer to the wall so she can use the wall to keep her balance.
I didn't have an appointment but managed to get in for a hh with Elaine. I have heard a lot about her but, this is my first experience. I will say she really seems to love her job and she has a great sense of humor. If you haven't seen her before she is short, maybe 40's, B-cup with a little bit of a fupa but not to bad. The big turnoff was her teeth, Idk why but discolored teeth are a big turnoff but trust me her enthusiasm really made up for it. Full menu was offered, but prices seemed high $ for CBJ. ! And 40 to the house. I don't know about you guys but I have never been able to negotiate with these girls. Kind of hard to do when in a compromising position. Any way on the way out I met Katie, she is as short as Elain but younger with a great rack and white teeth. I'll make an appointment next time.
Hello all,
I am young. 22 but look even younger. I want to try this as a method of release. Will I be turned away immediately. Message or reply with any recommendation. Thanks all.
[QUOTE=HydroDarell;4438048]I didn't have an appointment but managed to get in for a hh with Elaine. I have heard a lot about her but, this is my first experience. I will say she really seems to love her job and she has a great sense of humor. If you haven't seen her before she is short, maybe 40's, B-cup with a little bit of a fupa but not to bad. The big turnoff was her teeth, Idk why but discolored teeth are a big turnoff but trust me her enthusiasm really made up for it. Full menu was offered, but prices seemed high $ for CBJ. ! And 40 to the house. I don't know about you guys but I have never been able to negotiate with these girls. Kind of hard to do when in a compromising position. Any way on the way out I met Katie, she is as short as Elain but younger with a great rack and white teeth. I'll make an appointment next time.[/QUOTE]Yeah boi, hope you ate some of that Fupa!
[QUOTE=JAnderson178;4439835]Hello all,
I am young. 22 but look even younger. I want to try this as a method of release. Will I be turned away immediately. Message or reply with any recommendation. Thanks all.[/QUOTE]9 spa is your best bet, they didn't even card me when I was 18. AZspa is more restrictive on age however. I'm not sure about the others.
Any been to this place? Search pulled up nothing.
So made it there last night after I left the football game. Got there about 9:30 and saw Mimi. Said she was the only one working, as I was already there proceeded. Went for half for $. 4, and opted to pass on the massage. No negotiation over tip, she just stepped out and returned with the appropriate equipment. She used her mouth to apply it and proceeded to give me a decent CBJ. After about 15 minutes of that I took her clothes off and laid her on the table and did standing missionary for about 30 minutes. Now I will say it was long day yesterday, and 9/10 times I probably would have passed, but I did enjoy myself for a couple of reasons. She was maybe a 4 or 5 out of 10, so looks weren't it, but she was enthusiastic, especially given how late I arrived. She also enjoyed herself, and didn't rush me when it was taking me more time than I paid for to finish. So all in all it wasn't bad, not great, but have had worse.
[QUOTE=Durst69;4441012]Yeah boi, hope you ate some of that Fupa![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HydroDarell;4438048]I didn't have an appointment but managed to get in for a hh with Elaine. I have heard a lot about her but, this is my first experience. I will say she really seems to love her job and she has a great sense of humor. If you haven't seen her before she is short, maybe 40's, B-cup with a little bit of a fupa but not to bad. The big turnoff was her teeth, Idk why but discolored teeth are a big turnoff but trust me her enthusiasm really made up for it. Full menu was offered, but prices seemed high $ for CBJ. ! And 40 to the house. I don't know about you guys but I have never been able to negotiate with these girls. Kind of hard to do when in a compromising position. Any way on the way out I met Katie, she is as short as Elain but younger with a great rack and white teeth. I'll make an appointment next time.[/QUOTE]Had a Dream, and decided I wanted to go get some of that Fupa! But ended up with Amanda. Haven't had some action in a while so I payed 1. 2 for full menu, only stuck it in a couple times and decided on some DATY, ended up spittin quick while I was eating her out. She wouldn't even let me do seconds without paying for more! I wasn't having non of that, boy! She only agreed to give me an HJ while I laid back, so I decided to do some self service while she tickled the boys, I coulda got better elsewhere for the buck for only coming two times son!
[QUOTE=JohnReese7;4441705]Any been to this place? Search pulled up nothing.[/QUOTE]I've been keeping an eye on Joy Spa, the new place on Speedway, across from Whole Foods. While from the street everything appears to be up and running, I have yet to see the Open sign illuminated. No neon, no reason to knock on the door.
I know that is a subjective question, but which AMP has the best table shower service / provider? I love a good thorough scrubbing prior to the main event. PM's encouraged.
[QUOTE=ChicaLuv;4444446]I know that is a subjective question, but which AMP has the best table shower service / provider? I love a good thorough scrubbing prior to the main event. PM's encouraged.[/QUOTE]Like all other services at AMPs, the quality of the table shower depends on the provider. I have had great and mediocre at the same place.
Stopped by Rain since it had been a while and met Joyce for the first time. She's very thin but cute and fun to talk with. Massage was so-so and the usual CBJ and DATY were available with some DFK. All and all, a fun time though I wish FS menu options were on the table. Admittedly, the staff at Rain and 9 Spa do well, but they could pull in substantially more money if their menu was more, shall we say, comprehensive.