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Woried
[QUOTE=Ocalalover1;4183858]So I went to BO about a month ago, days before the news about all the stings. Since then, I haven't been able to relax about it. The day I got there, the hostess came out and made sure another guy was parked in the right spot, then asked me where I was parked when I came in.
A few days later, the news broke about Jupiter and I guess a couple spas in Orlando.
Now I'm worried that cameras were in BO the one time I visited.
Earlier this week I got a call on my cell "no caller I'd". It was the local SO, they asked if I was someone by another name and asked if I had property somewhere I don't. I told them no and that it wasn't me, that I didn't know the guy they were looking for, and that was the end. A few minutes later they call back with the same question about a different property, and asked if I knew another guy. After thinking about it, I'm worried that they were just trying to get my voice on tape to match up with any surveillance they have.
Then two nights ago, after getting home around 9 pm I noticed a SO cruiser on the side of the road a few houses down from mine, and noticed the deputy at a house on the other side of my house. He was talking to the homeowners there, but when he left there, he had to walk by my house to get back to his cruiser. I'm worried he was just matching plates with what may be on surveillance.
To say I'm worried is an understatement. To think this has all blown over, I think, I'd wishful thinking. Now I find myself looking up fines and fees associated with solicitation and wondering what the heck I would do if I end up arrested. Should I be looking for a defense attorney already? Is there anything I can do anyway? Doubtful, but these are the thoughts I'm having, all from one trip to BO. It wasn't worth it, it's not worth it, and I wish I had never done it.
Please guys, think things through before you make any decisions regarding this. We all have a lot to lose, and who knows what Law enforcement has in place or has had in place for how long? I'm worried this "sting" covers more than what's been reported already, and even from that, I can't stop worrying about it.
If anyone has any feedback, feel free to PM me if you don't want to post a discussion.
Be safe, think critically.[/QUOTE]If I would be you I would be very worried. Unfounded paranoia is a sign of mental illness. Please seek help.
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Trouble
[QUOTE=LastMarshall;4183915]Don't answer any questions don't answer calls deny everything. Was not you. If they have your tag number just say I have a bad back and when it flairs up I get a massage where ever I might be at the time. It is not illegal to get a massage. Go on with your life and deny any and everything admit nothing. You have a right to remain silent use it.[/QUOTE]Seems like a lot of expense and trouble to go through to try to get a voice match on one spa client. I think it unlikely that it's the police--though I guess it's barely within the realm of possibility. Voice matching is pretty iffy--especially if one is from a hidden cam and the other is through a couple of telephones. So many things can affect your voice patterns--different electronic devices; sinus trouble; some vocal cord irritation; a cold; just finishing a spicy meal; a very dry room; a very humid room. Again, maybe possible, but unlikely.
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Yeah, most likely
[QUOTE=Jokester1;4184172]Seems like a lot of expense and trouble to go through to try to get a voice match on one spa client. I think it unlikely that it's the police--though I guess it's barely within the realm of possibility. Voice matching is pretty iffy--especially if one is from a hidden cam and the other is through a couple of telephones. So many things can affect your voice patterns--different electronic devices; sinus trouble; some vocal cord irritation; a cold; just finishing a spicy meal; a very dry room; a very humid room. Again, maybe possible, but unlikely.[/QUOTE]You're most likely right, and I'm not sure what the poster under you is.
I'm just wondering when I can breathe a sigh of relief, ya know? Can't help but wonder how many other stings like this took place or are taking place now, and just haven't hit the news yet.
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This is why I have never parked at mp's or used my real name.
[QUOTE=Ocalalover1;4183858]So I went to BO about a month ago, days before the news about all the stings. Since then, I haven't been able to relax about it. The day I got there, the hostess came out and made sure another guy was parked in the right spot, then asked me where I was parked when I came in.
A few days later, the news broke about Jupiter and I guess a couple spas in Orlando.
Now I'm worried that cameras were in BO the one time I visited.
Earlier this week I got a call on my cell "no caller I'd". It was the local SO, they asked if I was someone by another name and asked if I had property somewhere I don't. I told them no and that it wasn't me, that I didn't know the guy they were looking for, and that was the end. A few minutes later they call back with the same question about a different property, and asked if I knew another guy. After thinking about it, I'm worried that they were just trying to get my voice on tape to match up with any surveillance they have.
Then two nights ago, after getting home around 9 pm I noticed a SO cruiser on the side of the road a few houses down from mine, and noticed the deputy at a house on the other side of my house. He was talking to the homeowners there, but when he left there, he had to walk by my house to get back to his cruiser. I'm worried he was just matching plates with what may be on surveillance.
To say I'm worried is an understatement. To think this has all blown over, I think, I'd wishful thinking. Now I find myself looking up fines and fees associated with solicitation and wondering what the heck I would do if I end up arrested. Should I be looking for a defense attorney already? Is there anything I can do anyway? Doubtful, but these are the thoughts I'm having, all from one trip to BO. It wasn't worth it, it's not worth it, and I wish I had never done it.
Please guys, think things through before you make any decisions regarding this. We all have a lot to lose, and who knows what Law enforcement has in place or has had in place for how long? I'm worried this "sting" covers more than what's been reported already, and even from that, I can't stop worrying about it.
If anyone has any feedback, feel free to PM me if you don't want to post a discussion.
Be safe, think critically.[/QUOTE]
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Bo
[QUOTE=Ocalalover1;4183858]So I went to BO about a month ago, days before the news about all the stings. Since then, I haven't been able to relax about it. The day I got there, the hostess came out and made sure another guy was parked in the right spot, then asked me where I was parked when I came in.
A few days later, the news broke about Jupiter and I guess a couple spas in Orlando.
Now I'm worried that cameras were in BO the one time I visited.
Earlier this week I got a call on my cell "no caller I'd". It was the local SO, they asked if I was someone by another name and asked if I had property somewhere I don't. I told them no and that it wasn't me, that I didn't know the guy they were looking for, and that was the end. A few minutes later they call back with the same question about a different property, and asked if I knew another guy. After thinking about it, I'm worried that they were just trying to get my voice on tape to match up with any surveillance they have.
Then two nights ago, after getting home around 9 pm I noticed a SO cruiser on the side of the road a few houses down from mine, and noticed the deputy at a house on the other side of my house. He was talking to the homeowners there, but when he left there, he had to walk by my house to get back to his cruiser. I'm worried he was just matching plates with what may be on surveillance.
To say I'm worried is an understatement. To think this has all blown over, I think, I'd wishful thinking. Now I find myself looking up fines and fees associated with solicitation and wondering what the heck I would do if I end up arrested. Should I be looking for a defense attorney already? Is there anything I can do anyway? Doubtful, but these are the thoughts I'm having, all from one trip to BO. It wasn't worth it, it's not worth it, and I wish I had never done it.
Please guys, think things through before you make any decisions regarding this. We all have a lot to lose, and who knows what Law enforcement has in place or has had in place for how long? I'm worried this "sting" covers more than what's been reported already, and even from that, I can't stop worrying about it.
If anyone has any feedback, feel free to PM me if you don't want to post a discussion.
Be safe, think critically.[/QUOTE]Think of all the guys that have gone in there in the past few months. I find it really hard to believe they have the time and resources (and nothing better to do) than to track down every client of the spas. Maybe I'm wrong, but what a waste of tax dollars if not. You may be able to check your name on Central Florida Warrants website and see if they are looking for you. Does OCSO even have voice match technology? It's not like they are NCIS or anything. I would relax. Chances are it's nothing, there are plenty of guys down south already fighting it, so at least you will have a template for a defense. If they are getting off (see what I did there), no big deal. If they are pleading out, there you go. No use losing sleep over something you can't control. Again, think about all the man hours wasted on this, just to get a small fine? I don't get it. I still think Bob Kraft's attorney is going to tear them a new one. Good luck with it.
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Intel update GG and BO
Around 10 this morning I had to drive by GG on the way to an appointment. GG appeared to be closed, no vehicles in the parking lot, front or back. It took awhile but I recalled someone saying they were closed for repairs of some kind and yet not a single trades truck in sight. That gets a hmmmmm.
Then on the flip side I had to go west on 50 bc 408 west bound was a parking lot. Passed by BO. Couldn't tell if it was open but there's a fresh monger report on RMs. But, there were 3 Geico brand painted vans backed up to the front door. Half empty parking lot but they had to park directly in front of the door. Remember Geico is in the strip center across the way. Its just me but I think Geico is sending a message and they in the past have complained about spill over parking. Down in WPB supposedly it was adjacent businesses that complained to authorities that started the whole raid thing going. Just because they are watching you doesn't mean you are paranoid. HA!
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Re: Bo
[QUOTE=Ocalalover1;4183858]So I went to BO about a month ago, days before the news about all the stings. Since then, I haven't been able to relax about it. The day I got there, the hostess came out and made sure another guy was parked in the right spot, then asked me where I was parked when I came in.
A few days later, the news broke about Jupiter and I guess a couple spas in Orlando.
Now I'm worried that cameras were in BO the one time I visited.
Earlier this week I got a call on my cell "no caller I'd". It was the local SO, they asked if I was someone by another name and asked if I had property somewhere I don't. I told them no and that it wasn't me, that I didn't know the guy they were looking for, and that was the end. A few minutes later they call back with the same question about a different property, and asked if I knew another guy. After thinking about it, I'm worried that they were just trying to get my voice on tape to match up with any surveillance they have.
Then two nights ago, after getting home around 9 pm I noticed a SO cruiser on the side of the road a few houses down from mine, and noticed the deputy at a house on the other side of my house. He was talking to the homeowners there, but when he left there, he had to walk by my house to get back to his cruiser. I'm worried he was just matching plates with what may be on surveillance.
To say I'm worried is an understatement. To think this has all blown over, I think, I'd wishful thinking. Now I find myself looking up fines and fees associated with solicitation and wondering what the heck I would do if I end up arrested. Should I be looking for a defense attorney already? Is there anything I can do anyway? Doubtful, but these are the thoughts I'm having, all from one trip to BO. It wasn't worth it, it's not worth it, and I wish I had never done it.
Please guys, think things through before you make any decisions regarding this. We all have a lot to lose, and who knows what Law enforcement has in place or has had in place for how long? I'm worried this "sting" covers more than what's been reported already, and even from that, I can't stop worrying about it.
If anyone has any feedback, feel free to PM me if you don't want to post a discussion.
Be safe, think critically.[/QUOTE]So far, there has been no indication that BO was part of the recent central / south Florida AMP sting. With that said, I was at BO at about the same time as you. Their parking lot was full so I parked across the street and called them, since it was a weekday afternoon and it wasn't clear to whom the cars belonged to. I called them to ask if they were busy and she said "NO, you come now baby" or some such thing. But I waited for about 25 minutes until three visitors left. Then I went over. During my 45 minute visit, it sounded as if 2 or 3 other visitors arrived and I didn't get a follow up shower as a result. I have not received any calls from any police department to this point. And BO was busy.
Shaggy.
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Interesting article.
I read an article today where the lead detective said for every guy the tracker down 5 got away. Also they had 3 detectives watching live CCTV at headquarters of all the rooms from 9 am to 11 pm. If a female customer entered the building / room they would stop the feed since they were only targeting men. They said the operation listed $400,000.
[QUOTE=Nightowl21;4184375]Think of all the guys that have gone in there in the past few months. I find it really hard to believe they have the time and resources (and nothing better to do) than to track down every client of the spas. Maybe I'm wrong, but what a waste of tax dollars if not. You may be able to check your name on Central Florida Warrants website and see if they are looking for you. Does OCSO even have voice match technology? It's not like they are NCIS or anything. I would relax. Chances are it's nothing, there are plenty of guys down south already fighting it, so at least you will have a template for a defense. If they are getting off (see what I did there), no big deal. If they are pleading out, there you go. No use losing sleep over something you can't control. Again, think about all the man hours wasted on this, just to get a small fine? I don't get it. I still think Bob Kraft's attorney is going to tear them a new one. Good luck with it.[/QUOTE]
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Phone Calls
If I get a call from someone not already in my call list. It goes straight to voicemail. If they don't leave a message, or I don't know them, or have planned business with them. They don't get a return call. Period. Unless you're being called to the stand as a witness, you don't have to answer anything. If they have any other questions, they can call your lawyer.
[QUOTE=Ocalalover1;4183858]
Earlier this week I got a call on my cell "no caller I'd". It was the local SO, they asked if I was someone by another name and asked if I had property somewhere I don't. I told them no and that it wasn't me, that I didn't know the guy they were looking for, and that was the end. A few minutes later they call back with the same question about a different property, and asked if I knew another guy. After thinking about it, I'm worried that they were just trying to get my voice on tape to match up with any surveillance they have.
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Phone calls
If LEO has not called you yet, you are not on any list. LEO moves quickly to close loose ends.
[QUOTE=Leon065;4184956]If I get a call from someone not already in my call list. It goes straight to voicemail. If they don't leave a message, or I don't know them, or have planned business with them. They don't get a return call. Period. Unless you're being called to the stand as a witness, you don't have to answer anything. If they have any other questions, they can call your lawyer.[/QUOTE]
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[URL]https://www.wptv.com/news/region-n-palm-beach-county/jupiter/jupiter-spa-bust-search-warrants-reveal-how-detectives-planted-hidden-cameras[/URL]
Good read. The police took intel from this site as part of their effort to secure a warrant.
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Only Men
[QUOTE=FreakMe;4184793]I read an article today where the lead detective said for every guy the tracker down 5 got away. Also they had 3 detectives watching live CCTV at headquarters of all the rooms from 9 am to 11 pm. If a female customer entered the building / room they would stop the feed since they were only targeting men. They said the operation listed $400,000.[/QUOTE]Now that is sexist profiling. Sounds like something a defense attorney could bring up.
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Curious about this place
Anyone here ever heard of or been here? Fairly intriguing.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.orlando.listcrawler.com/post/30312326/[/URL]
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BO denied
So I went to BO and found out all the girls were with ONE client. Snow said he was celebrating his bday or something. She asked if I wanted to wait, and I thought about it, also thought having mamasan herself, and she was willing, if a little bit reluctant (said she wasn't a professional, so it wouldn't be as good as if I waited for Rita) and since I like enthusiastim I said I'd come back later. Whoever you are, happy birthday you lucky asshole LOL.
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[QUOTE=DominicanPete;4185182][URL]https://www.wptv.com/news/region-n-palm-beach-county/jupiter/jupiter-spa-bust-search-warrants-reveal-how-detectives-planted-hidden-cameras[/URL]
Good read. The police took intel from this site as part of their effort to secure a warrant.[/QUOTE]Yup. Exactly.
Some dodo birds on this site think everything they say is not being used as intel. Cause it was a dream! Lmfao.