Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=Nuts N Bolts]I've seen at least three ladies at 224 in CT. Interestingly, she has some backup in the building, and sent the backup down in her place. As in, "Okay honey I be right down. " and then places a call to the pinch hitter to go let the fella in. [/QUOTE]

Not long ago, I was in an AMP in Somerville. The women was trying to give me a massage and fielding phone calls for 224 Tremont at the same time - she had at least three cell phones going. There were lots of "be right down honey" Then she would phone who ever was on deck at 224 to run down and pick up the next guy. I found it amusing as well as annoying - she added some extra time and attention for my inconvenience. It was my 2nd and last visit. I haven't been back there since then.

Dude,
thanks for the intel, but if you had read this forum and the Worcester side, you would have seen that the place you went has been reviewed 2 or 3 times, all with the same result as you! The place is legit. If you want decent/similar massage with the HE, go to susie's at 167 Main St.

JP

[QUOTE=Xyzzyx]On impulse, I tried the "new massage place" for which I've been seeing ads on CL, digits 0123. Turned out I TOFTT.

Initially thought the signs looked encouraging, talked to a girl with minimal english, who told me to come right over. Found the place (I think they're the only tenants in a multi-unit office building) and paid the mamasan for the hour. Got in the room, undressed, and two girls came in and put me under the towel I'd ignored. One left and the other gave me a pretty decent massage, pretty deep, with good work on knotted muscle. After the first walking-on-back part, she was ok with ditching the towel. Not obvious teasing, but got right up against the boys enough times that I was anticipating more. After the flip, more almost-teasing, and I accidentally caressed her thigh, which she seemed ok with.

Unfortunately, then she got a hot towel, wiped off the small amount of oil, and said all done. I asked if she would massage the obvious area, but she just looked blank and left.

It may be that they're just legit, and that's her usual style. Or it may be that it was my first time, and I made the mistake of saying so when she asked. They gave me a card, after 10 you get a free one.

I may repeat, at least once, because it was a good massage, and there were enough hints that it may be worth seeing if there's more available on subsequent visits. Or maybe not, there are other options for good massage in the area, like Suzie or Leeza. Damage $70+. 1.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jimmy Pratt]Dude,

thanks for the intel, but if you had read this forum and the Worcester side, you would have seen that the place you went has been reviewed 2 or 3 times, all with the same result as you! The place is legit. If you want decent/similar massage with the HE, go to susie's at 167 Main St.

JP[/QUOTE]I did do some searching beforehand, but keep forgetting to check the worcester list.

Oh well, At least there are a couple of reliable options out here these days.

Have been meaning to head over to Lavendar to check out LiLi but decided to revisit Tulip in Brookline. I had a great experience with Anne at Tulip (unlike another poster, who had a bad experience) and thought I'd try her again.

I was told that Anne is no longer there, but I could see LiLi. I figured why not, did not assume that it was the same gal because these names seem to be picked from a a one page book.

Turns out it she worked at Lavendar and has moved to Tulip for a week, maybe two. She told me that Tulip actually closed for a few weeks due to lack of business.

I believe her name is Lily, but it get mangled with the accent. Anyway, she is no spring chicken, probably about 40 but of course, looks thirties and has a very appealing body - tall (for an asian gal, about 5'7"), slender, tiny ass and perfect breasts for me, between a B and C, with large nipples that always point to the ceiling.

Her massage was ok, I realized that "hard" was not her forte and asked for medium, since it was pretty warm and the AC was just barely doing the job. Not a lot of teasing, but on the flip it was obvious where we were headed. I managed to talk her out of her top before she put her capable hands on DB junior, and though she enjoyed the attention, she was concerned with it being a distraction from the task at hand.

This may be part of the reason for another poster's bad experience with LiLi - she's very focused on making you happy. The good news is that she takes direction quite well and truly seemed delighted to make me happy.

So it appears that the owner of Tulip and Lavender are the same and she's not sure where she'll be. But one thing is clear - Tulip is hurting for business. When I asked if she'd like referrals, she loved the idea. So if you want to see her, call Tulip and ask for her. If she's not there, try Lavendar, but let them know at Tulip that you were looking for her.

Tell her DB sent you (use the initials for everyone's sake:) and you'll be all set.

I think this gal's got some potential and I hope to see her stick around, because the next stop is back to NYC if things don't pick up.

Lavender:

Strike 2. This used to be my go-to place, but the quality of service have gone down a lot since back in the day. In this particular instance, called and made an appointment. The massage was below average with some teasing. To top it off, no HE. Gave her a 10% tip, heard her grumbling while I walked out. Sorry, didn't get the name. Will not be going back for strike 3.

Hong:

This place is really out of my way, but needed to find a new regular place based on my recent experiences at Lavender. Called an made an appointment. Arrived to find she double booked. So my one hour session turned to 1/2 hour, because there was a fellow-monger waiting next door. She was very apologetic. Message was softer than I'd like (she kept insisting it was good). Oh yeah, she got the HE out of the way as soon as she walked into the "room (not the best set-up)." I mean, where's the romance (just kidding)? Will not repeat.

[QUOTE=Lk Msg]Lavender:

Hong:

This place is really out of my way, but needed to find a new regular place based on my recent experiences at Lavender. Called an made an appointment. Arrived to find she double booked. So my one hour session turned to 1/2 hour, because there was a fellow-monger waiting next door. She was very apologetic. Message was softer than I'd like (she kept insisting it was good). Oh yeah, she got the HE out of the way as soon as she walked into the "room (not the best set-up)." I mean, where's the romance (just kidding)? Will not repeat.[/QUOTE]

Have you tried the place on the second floor? I enjoyed that better than the first floor. Other than Lucy the other Hong girls were not my type.

[QUOTE=Top Floor]Saw Sandy on Mass Ave. She does use a lot of oil but does manage to wipe most of it off but it was one of the lamest massages I've ever had plus a few thai massage techniques does not make a thai massage. Just a lot of rubbing with no real technique to the massage. She then had me flip over and asks me if I want FS which I declined. She wanted way too much money. But I did take her offer of a bj. Which she left the room to get a condom and that took 5 minutes. I forgot what I tipped her. I think 60. Incredible tits and a nice ass. She had one hell of a doctor. I wouldn't repeat. I was in and out in about 40 minutes and thats counting the 5 minutes she left in the middle of everything.[/QUOTE]You got a BJ from a guy!

How was it?

I really need to find a place closer to Boston. Until then, I'm going to try a place in Malden first. Thanks for the tip Yello Tail.

[QUOTE=Yello Tail]Have you tried the place on the second floor? I enjoyed that better than the first floor. Other than Lucy the other Hong girls were not my type.[/QUOTE]

The next time you go to Lavender, ask them if they are still using a hidden video camera to record visitors as they are entering or leaving the reception area by the front door.

As I was leaving after my last visit, I caught a glimpse of an image on the monitor that sits on the front desk. I peeked around the desk, and much to my amazement, there in living color was an image of ....BA!.... Looking around the room, I discerned that a camera was hidden within one of the objects on the desk.

Further intelligence gathering revealed that all visitors are recorded so that the manager can get an accurate count and determine whether the ladies have exceeded the time for which their gentlemen callers have paid.

Perhaps these devices are used much more commonly than we realize, which would explain why AMP ladies are such diligent clock-watchers even when no one else appears to be working on site.

If they use cameras without our knowledge in the reception area, where else might they deploy them?

Am I the only Hobbyist who finds this alarming?

[QUOTE=Boston Ampfan]The next time you go to Lavender, ask them if they are still using a hidden video camera to record visitors as they are entering or leaving the reception area by the front door.

As I was leaving after my last visit, I caught a glimpse of an image on the monitor that sits on the front desk. I peeked around the desk, and much to my amazement, there in living color was an image of ....BA!.... Looking around the room, I discerned that a camera was hidden within one of the objects on the desk.

Further intelligence gathering revealed that all visitors are recorded so that the manager can get an accurate count and determine whether the ladies have exceeded the time for which their gentlemen callers have paid.

Perhaps these devices are used much more commonly than we realize, which would explain why AMP ladies are such diligent clock-watchers even when no one else appears to be working on site.

If they use cameras without our knowledge in the reception area, where else might they deploy them?

Am I the only Hobbyist who finds this alarming?[/QUOTE]


Most of the RI places have them, at some you can even see the monitors. I was in heavenly hands little over a year ago and the monitor was right in the waiting room.

I guess it's for security reasons too.

[QUOTE=Boston Ampfan]The next time you go to Lavender, ask them if they are still using a hidden video camera to record visitors as they are entering or leaving the reception area by the front door.

As I was leaving after my last visit, I caught a glimpse of an image on the monitor that sits on the front desk. I peeked around the desk, and much to my amazement, there in living color was an image of ....BA!.... Looking around the room, I discerned that a camera was hidden within one of the objects on the desk.

Further intelligence gathering revealed that all visitors are recorded so that the manager can get an accurate count and determine whether the ladies have exceeded the time for which their gentlemen callers have paid.

Perhaps these devices are used much more commonly than we realize, which would explain why AMP ladies are such diligent clock-watchers even when no one else appears to be working on site.

If they use cameras without our knowledge in the reception area, where else might they deploy them?

Am I the only Hobbyist who finds this alarming?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Score777]You got a BJ from a guy!

How was it?[/QUOTE]

Not only did you get a BJ from a guy (ladyboy) but an UGLY one to boot.

Ape Mitts required some R&R the other day and called Jasmine Spa in Waltham(Craigs and Phoenix). I must say I like this place, easy location and consistent service. Amy or Jenny are cool chicks. Chinese and have a good tease/flirty personality about them. Anyway I went in and had a very good medium pressure massage and skillfull HE at the end which was much needed during these stressfull times. 60 house and 40 tip for Jenny. I have been to Rhode Island spas and honestly I think Chinese babes are still the masters of are and T. And of course YMMV. Be kind to these girls and you will be happy. Ape Mitts will launch new pleasure probes in nearby locales soon and report back.

Ape Mitts.

I have seen Jenny many times but have not reviewed her for fear that so many of you Hobbyists will descend on the place that I'll never be able to get in again! She is exactly as Ape has described, attractive enough, highly skilled and flirty with no up selling or other nonsense--just a nice, relaxing and consistent experience. Recommended.

[QUOTE=Ape Mitts]Ape Mitts required some R&R the other day and called Jasmine Spa in Waltham(Craigs and Phoenix). I must say I like this place, easy location and consistent service. Amy or Jenny are cool chicks. Chinese and have a good tease/flirty personality about them. Anyway I went in and had a very good medium pressure massage and skillfull HE at the end which was much needed during these stressfull times. 60 house and 40 tip for Jenny. I have been to Rhode Island spas and honestly I think Chinese babes are still the masters of are and T. And of course YMMV. Be kind to these girls and you will be happy. Ape Mitts will launch new pleasure probes in nearby locales soon and report back.

Ape Mitts.[/QUOTE]

I have no problem with monitors for security but think that all of the places that use them should place them where we can see them. I think the hidden camera approach is sneaky, whether commonly used or otherwise.

[QUOTE=HappyDave]Most of the RI places have them, at some you can even see the monitors. I was in heavenly hands little over a year ago and the monitor was right in the waiting room.[/QUOTE]

TS Sandy

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Originally Posted by Score777
You got a BJ from a guy!

How was it?


[QUOTE=Leggeddog]Not only did you get a BJ from a guy (ladyboy) but an UGLY one to boot.[/QUOTE]


My morning coffee came out of my nose and all over my laptop when I read this. You are a funny guy!

I was almost reluctant to write this, but I figured this place has been widely reviewed and the word is out. Anyway, this was my first time here.

Good parking. Not crazy about the spa entrance. The door was locked, so had to press the bell. Felt a little exposed, standing around across from a crowded doctor's office. Inside, everyone was a little standoffish. They do have professional massage tables though, which makes a big difference in my book.

Once in, drew Jojo. Since I was new and said so (don't usually play games), I think she was a little nervous. Her massage technique was above average, with decent (reluctant) HE. Considering how friendly everyone was on my way out, I suspect my next trip will be a lot better.

I finally got around to visiting S'bai (WTF does that mean anyway?).

I don't think this is a Jolin place.

Anyway, got a 1hr ($80) massage from a petit girl there which was "OK" nothing exceptional but not terrible either. It seemed things were going quite well as she was massaging very close to the money spot but upon turning over she made no move towards a HE or anything. That being said I didn't press the issue so perhaps on another visit it would happen.

I was about to leave her a tip and she just excused herself and said goodbye. Maybe she is new to the business?

[QUOTE=Sixpack Joe]Has anyone given this place a try? The girls in the picture look familiar.

Address: 1034 Cambridge St, 2nd Floor, Cambridge, MA 02141

Rates are:

1 Hour = $80.00
1-1/2 Hours = $110.00
2 Hours = $150.00

Call: 617-868-0827 (11am-9pm)

I just saw the ad on CL, probably go tomorrow. Also I noticed a new massage place that has opened literally inside Spice and Rice (a restaurant a block away from S'bai).[/QUOTE]

• Went today to try tulip message on Bacon street and when I arrived the place was closed

• It was 7. 30. PM. The main door has phone # listed but when I called no one answer.

• Not sure if they closed the business or what.

• So decided to try the place exactly next door may be 1674 Bacon Street in a basement and that place also was closed and phone # end with 8888.

• What a night 2places are closed, very disappointed.

• I was tempted to try BEA SPA also next door, but it look to fancy for my, the place reminded my with SPA B at Norwood.

• End up driven to high number on Washington Street in Newton, the corner of Chestnut Street and Washington, there is a place called Red something chiniess massage.

• From the moment I walk-in I knew there would be no HE.

• I paid $60 for the massage, the massage it self was good, done by a lady that is over 45 years old. Had to be draped all the time, and after one hour of good strong massage, she told be you are all done. I said thank you and gave here no tip, will not repeat

[QUOTE=Diogenesbarrel]Have been meaning to head over to Lavendar to check out LiLi but decided to revisit Tulip in Brookline. I had a great experience with Anne at Tulip (unlike another poster, who had a bad experience) and thought I'd try her again.

I was told that Anne is no longer there, but I could see LiLi. I figured why not, did not assume that it was the same gal because these names seem to be picked from a a one page book.

Turns out it she worked at Lavendar and has moved to Tulip for a week, maybe two. She told me that Tulip actually closed for a few weeks due to lack of business.

I believe her name is Lily, but it get mangled with the accent. Anyway, she is no spring chicken, probably about 40 but of course, looks thirties and has a very appealing body. Tall (for an asian gal, about 5'7"), slender, tiny ass and perfect breasts for me, between a B and C, with large nipples that always point to the ceiling.

Her massage was ok, I realized that "hard" was not her forte and asked for medium, since it was pretty warm and the AC was just barely doing the job. Not a lot of teasing, but on the flip it was obvious where we were headed. I managed to talk her out of her top before she put her capable hands on DB junior, and though she enjoyed the attention, she was concerned with it being a distraction from the task at hand.

This may be part of the reason for another poster's bad experience with LiLi. She's very focused on making you happy. The good news is that she takes direction quite well and truly seemed delighted to make me happy.

So it appears that the owner of Tulip and Lavender are the same and she's not sure where she'll be. But one thing is clear. Tulip is hurting for business. When I asked if she'd like referrals, she loved the idea. So if you want to see her, call Tulip and ask for her. If she's not there, try Lavendar, but let them know at Tulip that you were looking for her.

Tell her DB sent you (use the initials for everyone's sake and you'll be all set.

I think this gal's got some potential and I hope to see her stick around, because the next stop is back to NYC if things don't pick up.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sixpack Joe]I finally got around to visiting S'bai (WTF does that mean anyway?).

I don't think this is a Jolin place.

Anyway, got a 1hr ($80) massage from a petit girl there which was "OK" nothing exceptional but not terrible either. It seemed things were going quite well as she was massaging very close to the money spot but upon turning over she made no move towards a HE or anything. That being said I didn't press the issue so perhaps on another visit it would happen.

I was about to leave her a tip and she just excused herself and said goodbye. Maybe she is new to the business?[/QUOTE]

I think it means something about happiness. Probably "happyending" I hope.

Any 411 on this place in the downtown section? Last digits 9999

Great visit with JoJo, recognized me as a repeat customer so a little less nervous and a little quicker to take me to the mountains.

One downside- the mamasan, Jessica, has something bad happening with her face. I don't know what it is, but it doesn't look good- we're talking huge, no bandage open sore. I was glad JoJo was free because I would not want Jessica touching me right now (and the guy who came in in the middle of my session apparently didn't either, from his loud protests of "I've been here four times! I should not have to wait for JoJo!")

You said you expected no HE and the massage was good. She earned at least a hamilton for her efforts. Don't be so cheap!

[QUOTE=Samo123]
• End up driven to high number on Washington Street in Newton, the corner of Chestnut Street and Washington, there is a place called Red something chiniess massage.

• From the moment I walk-in I knew there would be no HE.

• I paid $60 for the massage, the massage it self was good, done by a lady that is over 45 years old. Had to be draped all the time, and after one hour of good strong massage, she told be you are all done. I said thank you and gave here no tip, will not repeat[/QUOTE]

I suppose he was miffed that it was legit place that advertises in Boston Phx adult. bait & switch place. or bait and legit place.

[QUOTE=Dan Wesson]You said you expected no HE and the massage was good. She earned at least a hamilton for her efforts. Don't be so cheap![/QUOTE]

I remember another place on Harvard Ave. It was open for about a week before being shut down or shut down on their own. Seems Brookline police keep close tabs on these places.

[QUOTE=Samo123]• Went today to try tulip message on Bacon street and when I arrived the place was closed

• It was 7. 30. PM. The main door has phone # listed but when I called no one answer.

• Not sure if they closed the business or what.

• So decided to try the place exactly next door may be 1674 Bacon Street in a basement and that place also was closed and phone # end with 8888.

• What a night 2places are closed, very disappointed.

• I was tempted to try BEA SPA also next door, but it look to fancy for my, the place reminded my with SPA B at Norwood.

• End up driven to high number on Washington Street in Newton, the corner of Chestnut Street and Washington, there is a place called Red something chiniess massage.

• From the moment I walk-in I knew there would be no HE.

• I paid $60 for the massage, the massage it self was good, done by a lady that is over 45 years old. Had to be draped all the time, and after one hour of good strong massage, she told be you are all done. I said thank you and gave here no tip, will not repeat[/QUOTE]

Looking for any 411 on this place in the downtown section fin center.

[QUOTE=Perfect Man][url]http://boston.backpage.com/BodyRubs...-new-22/3896625[/url]
Well I saw her today and guess what "She KNOWS how to give a real Massage". She's a pretty girl very nice and friendly. Her place is Clean and spotless. Well worth it[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Catnibbler]Anything else to go with the good massage? HE?[/QUOTE]I second that request. Any confirmation of HE? Further details? I've emailed her for an appointment with no reply for a few days, but remain interested.

I visited Bonan today and saw JoJo. It was great. I called and made an appointment. Because of other reviews on these boards indicating they do a lot of switching, I made it clear I wanted JoJo. When I got there, sure enough mamasan sent in a different girl. When I said "You're not JoJo" she asked if that is who I wanted and I replied I had made an appointment and didn; t want to disappoint JoJo. She left and JoJo came in.

What a rack. I say she is a the cup not C.

I let her know I like a soft massage and lots of teasing and that is what I got. Her touch was fantastic and so was the teasing. At the flip, I got off the table and we hugged and I got to meet the girls up close and personal. Was also able to make a brief trip south to get acquainted. Some mutual stroking and then back onto the table for HE. A nice hot towel cleanup, some more massage on front till time was up (pretty much full hour), she brought me a bottle of water and I was out the door.

[QUOTE=Dan Wesson]You said you expected no HE and the massage was good. She earned at least a hamilton for her efforts. Don't be so cheap![/QUOTE]I agree, a HE should not be expected at certain places, people should be tipped for there efforts. You tip the person who cuts you hair and parks you car do you expect a HJ from them.

[QUOTE=Spaz2580]I suppose he was miffed that it was legit place that advertises in Boston Phx adult. bait & switch place. or bait and legit place.[/QUOTE]Some of the places in the Phx and CL are legit.

I only go to any AMP for the HE, I wanted HE, when I walked in, I had a feeling that there would be NO HE, but I decided to explore the place regardless. I remember the Place advertise in the Adult section. I was already disappointment at the night that Tulip was closed.

Please do not act like a professor or a preacher, the purpose of the form is communicate information about what happened, and what is the monger experience, take it or leave it.

These type of comments (too much tip, cheap and so on) will only discourage people from making posts, you are going to be on my ignore list going forward.

[QUOTE=Dan Wesson]You said you expected no HE and the massage was good. She earned at least a hamilton for her efforts. Don't be so cheap![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jamescl]I second that request. Any confirmation of HE? Further details? I've emailed her for an appointment with no reply for a few days, but remain interested.[/QUOTE]I tried Eve a couple times via email and gave her my phone #, maybe she's moved on from this or is out of town this week?

[QUOTE=Samo123]I only go to any AMP for the HE, I wanted HE, when I walked in, I had a feeling that there would be NO HE, but I decided to explore the place regardless. I remember the Place advertise in the Adult section. I was already disappointment at the night that Tulip was closed.

Please do not act like a professor or a preacher, the purpose of the form is communicate information about what happened, and what is the monger experience, take it or leave it.

These type of comments (too much tip, cheap and so on) will only discourage people from making posts, you are going to be on my ignore list going forward.[/QUOTE]Put me on your ignore list to please, we offered constructive criticism and you are apparently not able to accept it.

But it's quite sneaky to advertise in adult massage. Why not in the regular massage section of mind/body/spirit. Even that place is mostly HE places. But to advertise in adult massage is a big bait and switch.

That's why I don't go to these places after reading reports on here. It's helpful to know this info. Choi's, Red alzea. No thanks.

[QUOTE=HappyDave]Some of the places in the Phx and CL are legit.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Spaz2580]But it's quite sneaky to advertise in adult massage. Why not in the regular massage section of mind/body/spirit. Even that place is mostly HE places. But to advertise in adult massage is a big bait and switch.

That's why I don't go to these places after reading reports on here. It's helpful to know this info. Choi's, Red alzea. No thanks.[/QUOTE]You are correct it is a little strange they advertise in the adult.

However...

Angle and Tina in Quincy along with a couple of other placed I had visited years ago and got a HE did advertise in the mind/body/spirit section not the adult so there is no way to tell.

[QUOTE=Spaz2580]But it's quite sneaky to advertise in adult massage. Why not in the regular massage section of mind/body/spirit. Even that place is mostly HE places. But to advertise in adult massage is a big bait and switch.

That's why I don't go to these places after reading reports on here. It's helpful to know this info. Choi's, Red alzea. No thanks.[/QUOTE]Anyone advertising in CL Adult who doesn't offer a HE is engaging in false advertising. If this were a lawful enterprise, such a business would be liable under the unfair business practices law. If I go to a CL Therapeutic or Phoenix Mind/Body/Spirit place, I understand that there's no guarantee. But if I go to a place advertising in CL or Phoenix Adult, and there is no HE, why would I offer a tip? Doesn't make sense to me.

We all know the mind/body/spirit section and CL therapeutic have quite a few HE places. Probl 2/3 of those ads are HE places. That is par for the course.

[QUOTE=HappyDave]You are correct it is a little strange they advertise in the adult.

However

Angle and Tina in Quincy along with a couple of other placed I had visited years ago and got a HE did advertise in the mind/body/spirit section not the adult so there is no way to tell.[/QUOTE]

Fellow mongers, there are a number of ads that are legit and many that are not. Right off the bat they bait & switch with photos. Those that offer HE do so at their own risk. Just because that you didn't get it the first time you went there doesn't mean that it won't happen. Many girls are cautious of the first time with you, as they may think you maybe uncle leo.

As for the placement of the ads, uncle leo is always looking at the obivious, so placing it in other places is a smart thing I think. The bottom line is who cares where they place their ad as long as I get the HE.

As for tipping to eachs own. If I get a good massage I tip. Just my. 02

[QUOTE=Uboatct]I tried Eve a couple times via email and gave her my phone #, maybe she's moved on from this or is out of town this week?[/QUOTE]Greetings, long time lurker here - finally registered to get moving towards senior status. Anyway, I also rcvd no response from Eve.

Why? Because she provided a decent (by his account) full hour massage.

Further, I couldn't care less what people tip for extras in reviews here. I only care when a provider asks for above the going rate for common servces.

I stick to my comments about stiffing someone on a tip, who provides an otherwise good service, makes no sense to me!

[QUOTE=Fluff]Anyone advertising in CL Adult who doesn't offer a HE is engaging in false advertising. If this were a lawful enterprise, such a business would be liable under the unfair business practices law. If I go to a CL Therapeutic or Phoenix Mind/Body/Spirit place, I understand that there's no guarantee. But if I go to a place advertising in CL or Phoenix Adult, and there is no HE, why would I offer a tip? Doesn't make sense to me.[/QUOTE]