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[QUOTE=Horsetrader;3098293]Always accept the table shower. One irritant of legit massage therapists is customers who are not freshly showered. It has to be even more of a concern for more exotic forms of massage. She has only one way to be sure you are clean, and that is to give you a table shower.
I have often skipped the massage, or had it at the end of the session.[/QUOTE]I can see what you're saying. Thanks for the feedback.
[QUOTE=Idiot;3096745]I was disappointed to find out that 9 VIP seems to be shut down. Arrived to a locked door and a sign ordering them to cease operations. Ended up driving a few minutes away to fun city and drew Julia. Her head game is top notch. That alone is worth it. Everything else was pretty typical. One big negative was no help with cleanup. She jumped off and MMS kinda rushed me out. Said someone else was waiting. The post game was enough to make me think hard about returning.[/QUOTE]Ah bummer. I was planning to go back this week too. I've never figured out how philly has so many places like this though. How are all those shops open all night long on ranstead and ludlow still around. I'd much rather they shut down those gross dumps and leave the nice ones around.
[QUOTE=Davey1965;3097186]That was bound to happen. Surprising it took that long. Way too much advertising and attention being drawn to the location.[/QUOTE]I just wanted to add that the cease operations order posted on the outside of 9 VIP is for zoning and fire code violations by the department of licenses and inspections, and not by LE. Hopefully they'll get their situation sorted and reopen soon, since none of these places tend to stay closed permanently from what I've seen. Also, if anyone finds any of the same girls from 9 VIP at another establishment, I'd be happy to know where that is. However, I'd take a wild guess that they were mostly sent to NY, as that's where they usually rotate between. I'm mainly interested in Tina, as she's my favorite and I liked to practice speaking Japanese with her.
I saw an attractive face with sexy poses on WeChat under People Nearby.
Friended her.
Asked for her address and she replied with 1041 Ridge.
That was the address of Bella.
Is there a new place open there now? Anyone know?
OE.
[QUOTE=OceanExplorer;3109026]I saw an attractive face with sexy poses on WeChat under People Nearby.
Friended her.
Asked for her address and she replied with 1041 Ridge.
That was the address of Bella.
Is there a new place open there now? Anyone know?
OE.[/QUOTE]Was she Asian?
Not familiad with WeChat. Is it a dating site? Escort site?
[QUOTE=OceanExplorer;3109026]I saw an attractive face with sexy poses on WeChat under People Nearby.
Friended her.
Asked for her address and she replied with 1041 Ridge.
That was the address of Bella.
Is there a new place open there now? Anyone know?
OE.[/QUOTE]After Bella new renters converted it into a CMP. They posted big 1041 numbers on the front gate. That spot was raided about one or two months ago. I think that location is on LE's hit list. On track to be raided annually. I would stay away.
[QUOTE=Phinx41;3108643]I just wanted to add that the cease operations order posted on the outside of 9 VIP is for zoning and fire code violations by the department of licenses and inspections, and not by LE. Hopefully they'll get their situation sorted and reopen soon, since none of these places tend to stay closed permanently from what I've seen. Also, if anyone finds any of the same girls from 9 VIP at another establishment, I'd be happy to know where that is. However, I'd take a wild guess that they were mostly sent to NY, as that's where they usually rotate between. I'm mainly interested in Tina, as she's my favorite and I liked to practice speaking Japanese with her.[/QUOTE]It's interesting to know that there's a Japanese at 9 VIP. Do you know any other places like this?
[QUOTE=Morkun;3110695]It's interesting to know that there's a Japanese at 9 VIP. Do you know any other places like this?[/QUOTE]Sorry, I don't. I met tina at 9 VIP last year and I was her regular for months. She went back to japan last December and then returned six weeks ago. She and I get along very well, and then L & I shut down 9 VIP after I saw her two times. It was just random that she was japanese, most girls there are korean.
As part of my experiment to test WeChat I ignored the warning by Rice and went to test out 1041 Race. The former home of Bella. The inside looked just the same but it had been two years since I was there. I had exchanged some texts that included some pictures. In the lobby there was a couple of young Chinese males. No mamasan near as I could tell. The Chinese girl who took me upstairs was named Lulu and spoke essentially no English. But she was cute. I think she looked like one of the pictures that they texted me. See below. She got nude and so did I. Then we did a table shower with no extras such as body slide or blow job. Back to the room for the perfunctory massage then flip and right to CBJ. No 69 or DATY was allowed. It was a pretty good CBJ, however. Then cowgirl to finish. My view is that many Chinese girls at places like this are fresh out of the country and have little erotic technique. When they don't speak any English it is hard to teach them tricks to help their trade.
As I left I learned that she was the only girl present. Still no mamasan and the Chinese guys were gone. I can't find any reference to them anywhere (rubmaps, backpage, ect) so I wonder how they get any business at all. FS cost $1.6
[QUOTE=OceanExplorer;3111830]As part of my experiment to test WeChat I ignored the warning by Rice and went to test out 1041 Race. The former home of Bella. The inside looked just the same but it had been two years since I was there. I had exchanged some texts that included some pictures. In the lobby there was a couple of young Chinese males. No mamasan near as I could tell. The Chinese girl who took me upstairs was named Lulu and spoke essentially no English. But she was cute. I think she looked like one of the pictures that they texted me. See below. She got nude and so did I. Then we did a table shower with no extras such as body slide or blow job. Back to the room for the perfunctory massage then flip and right to CBJ. No 69 or DATY was allowed. It was a pretty good CBJ, however. Then cowgirl to finish. My view is that many Chinese girls at places like this are fresh out of the country and have little erotic technique. When they don't speak any English it is hard to teach them tricks to help their trade.
As I left I learned that she was the only girl present. Still no mamasan and the Chinese guys were gone. I can't find any reference to them anywhere (rubmaps, backpage, ect) so I wonder how they get any business at all. FS cost $1.6[/QUOTE]I basically looked around on BP for the AMP with no location listed and called it under the assumption it was 1041. I was right, because I asked if this was 1041 ridge and they confirmed it. I went down there last week and the door was locked, so I immediately walked away and called them on the phone. They told me to go to 1123 race st. I went there for the first time and it was indeed, Chinese girls who spoke no english except for the one who answered the door.
I found the same ad on BP a few days later, and it now says "the old bella building" by the phone number. 1041 ridge and 1123 race must be run by the same owner, and from the description above, sounds like they operate the same way. New bella is just a shell of the old bella and they're clearly making an effort to be as discrete as they can while they attempt to drum up some business.
[QUOTE=Phinx41;3111987]I basically looked around on BP for the AMP with no location listed and called it under the assumption it was 1041. I was right, because I asked if this was 1041 ridge and they confirmed it. I went down there last week and the door was locked, so I immediately walked away and called them on the phone. They told me to go to 1123 race st. I went there for the first time and it was indeed, Chinese girls who spoke no english except for the one who answered the door.
I found the same ad on BP a few days later, and it now says "the old bella building" by the phone number. 1041 ridge and 1123 race must be run by the same owner, and from the description above, sounds like they operate the same way. New bella is just a shell of the old bella and they're clearly making an effort to be as discrete as they can while they attempt to drum up some business.[/QUOTE]OK interesting. I had made a post about 1123 Race back in early September. It also advertises on WeChat. Does anyone look at WeChat except Chinese guys and me? I had a date with Apple who spoke good English and is still there. I got her to give me a bbbj.
In Philadelphia nothing beats the girls at EPM and Fun City for full service.
Anyone know what happened with deep desires? I want to see yoko, but haven't gotten a response in 2 weeks.
I just happened to move in the building next door with my white girl friend. Very convenient for me now. And. Kinda 3 xcting too.
I be like, honey I'm going to get some milk, go next door, and get some yoko, then come back and bang my white girl.
[QUOTE=OceanExplorer;3112441]... It also advertises on WeChat. Does anyone look at WeChat except Chinese guys and me?...[/QUOTE]Yes, but only when traveling to urban areas. About 10 months ago it was quite productive, but has been getting less and less effective since about March. The "people nearby" feature is handy but has a limit of about 13 miles. The "shake" feature is worthless for mongering. Other suggestions for using WeChat would be appreciated.
My WeChat successes have been by using people nearby. Just find suggestive pictures and send a complimentary message.
For people who have no idea what WeChat is, try downloading the app to your smart phone or tablet. Sign up and play with it.
I don't frequent AMP's regularly, not sure why, I think it's mostly the requirement that I travel to CC and I live and work in the burbs and suburban AMP's tend to be less "menu optioned" than CC AMP's, but I had the day off and just decided to explore a curiosity I've noticed these past few months. There is an AMP on Frankford ave under the EL and I thought that 'new' and 'unusual'. It's close to Frankford hospital, the 4800 block. Says they are open 24/7, just call. I said to myself "fukkit" and on a whim decided to see what it' about.
I went in the middle of the day. Two Chinese gals, one looked late 20's and was the one in charge, there was another dressed in normal young adult street garb that I had the impression was not working, but was the younger of the pair and looked to be no more than 20. She was actually very pretty to me and had a face that favored 'Kimmy Khan'. When I called to see about passing by and inquired how much the lady on the phone seemed to emphasize "young girls" in the want to encourage me to come visit. Well, cutting to the chase on the details. There is a notice about the spa on a pink sign attached to a black iron gate on the Avenue, go thru the gate and you see a white security screen on the side of the house with two remote-RF-Type door bell ringers with notes saying "push to ring". Lady comes down, invites you in, it's a staircase that goes right up to the 2nd floor. You are asked to remove your footwear and are taken to a room. It was just the two females there, both were very friendly, broken english but enough, in my case very little interaction with the younger one, the impression was that she was not working. Once in the room, I inquired and in her broken english was told that she was not working and it was her (the one I was with) that I'd be with. She was very conversational and friendly. Was told to please give standard fee ($50), undressed, got on to massage table and was surprised that I was not ushered to a shower and inquired, but was told to shower after. Lay face down for the massage, after some light massaging on back, legs and buttocks she used stimulating fingertips and nails to excite by reaching under and tickling the balls and taint. That woke my little guy up in no short order, this was barely 5 minutes into massage, thus massage was token. Quickly asked to flip and asked if I wanted HJ or to "make love", advised to go for "making love". I don't tend to do this at AMP's because although I'm in full agreement with covered FS the truth is that condoms just totally kill the feeling for me. But I was TOFTT (It was an exploratory visit for me) so ventured. This brought things to the prices we are familiar with as she asked for an extra $. For that. So $. 5 total. She fully disrobed and got on the massage table in cowgirl and proceeded. We went a while, but like I said it was just so light in feeling to me that it was never going to take me to the edge. My fault not hers, I know this about me and condoms. After opted for her to finish me off via HJ, her willingness to get creative with that is limited, (no backdoor play, no BJ, only extra oil and ball play). We eventually got there, but it's not the creative sexuality of FC or the old philly lengendary places of yesteryear.
I had to talk sternly to her to keep going to give me the lions-share of my hour. At some point she seemed to tire and so suggested this was the end, but I wasn't done so had to tell her I paid for the hour, give me the hour or bring that other pretty girl in and have her take over (Oh, now I remember why I don't go to AMP's with regularity. . .). She said, "she's still learning (that alone is hella sexy IMO), she won't be able to do enough for you", and so she reached into her mental and constitutional reserves and soldiered on to give me satisfaction.
In her defense, I'm the wrong guy to choose if you intend to have a quickie, I need time and a willing, enthusiastic and healthy partner. A clock watched are&T is generally not a good option for me, but every now and then I indulge.
No table shower, just a standard fare western house-type bathtub / shower unit that we all likely have in our homes. I did shower after and although she was in the bathroom with me I showered alone, she just offered to wrap towel around me after. So no slide, no play, no surprises except that there are no surprises. I used the opportunity when we were in the bathroom to ask about what the scope of services were, and if I could have "certain things" if I wanted them. I didn't go crazy, but asked about BJ, not even BBBJ, just a BJ, she implied that this was a 'no'. Just HJ or "Make love", so any of you guys that might think about DATY, Greek, uncovered anything except HJ, etc. I suspect this is not your spot. Just like myself, I also know that there are guys that frankly want no more than HJ and do not want FS, so if this fit's what you might be looking for if you want some options when cruising along the EL, this is one.
There are 4 rooms and one major space that looks like where folks would otherwise assemble and lounge. The place is largely unfurnished but the massage rooms have necessary stuff like massage tables, small decoration, etc. Place was spare but was clean. I thought parking was easy enough tho it's in an area where parking can be a chore. I went behind the hospital and walked the short distance to it. There is parking on Frankford ave, the side streets, vehicles that cover every type and price range so 'whatever' you are driving will not stand out or have you look or feel out of place. Between the hospital and the two close by bus depots (Bridge and Pratt and the other one, I don't recall the name as I don't know much about philly bus routes) it's a area of decent human and vehicular traffic. I went during the day so felt very inconspicuous, I don't know what it'll be like at 2 am. If I decide to go back and try my luck with my psuedo 'Kimmy Khan' I'll post back. For me I don't think it's place I'll go as I need more "creativity" than they have on offer but something I get in my "fukkit" modes and take a leap.
I'm wondering if there are changes to the general scene in motion that ones like myself haven't taken much notice of. There seems to be new asian spots advertising on BP. These tend to be out of residential areas rather than commercial areas. This place competed with another location that was on my list to try, but it was in a house off bustleton ave on the other side of the boulevard. I scoped it for location and look but this time around decided not to venture. It didn't look suspect. No unmarked vans about or anything, just a nondescript rowhouse on a street in the greater NE. I have noticed more of these types of places popping up in the city. I called and they said $120 for half-hour, $140 for full-hour. When you call, they text you the address. I don't know any deeper details as I did not visit and folks don't tend to discuss the nitty-gritty over the telephone.
Here's an example of one of the ads: [URL]http://philadelphia.backpage.com/BodyRubs/new-sexy-and-playful-body-2-body-and-nuru-over-u/34725455[/URL].
Hopefully soon I'll get curious enough to know what it's like and then report.
Hi, I was wondering what's some really good mp that does FS with multiple pops and also place that does authentic nuru with nuru gel, could be Asian, European, Latin, etc.
Please do pm me and if you want ny or international places I'll be happy to share.