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[QUOTE=Hamilton4;4168773]Just drove by GG and the place is closed with a note on the door. Didn't dare stop to see what it said but it's an empty lot and all the lights are out.[/QUOTE]Tokyo in Longwood is also closed with a note on the door. Says had to close my doors for a while or something to that effect.
[QUOTE=Pbwardy02;4170277]Dude, gtfo with that. There is 100% sex slavery in the AMP hustle. I'm a patron. I've gotten my beak wet countless times at an AMP. I recognize I am part of the problem of this larger issue. I just don't care. I'm a selfish asshole. That said, the issues raised here are not phony or a media hustle. It's very real. Asian sex slavery is a problem.[/QUOTE]So where's the trafficking here? The ladies could have left anytime. Nobody was stopping them. So you're saying the end demand folks don't work with cops and prosecutors to push there agenda? So are you also saying that you believe the cops and the here? I can point you to all the shit that was done in Seattle to show that it was just dog and pony show funded by End Demand people.
[QUOTE=Pbwardy02;4170277]There is 100% sex slavery in the AMP hustle.[/QUOTE]I have no idea what the percentage is, but I'm certain it isn't 100%.
Several years ago I got to know one of the Philadelphia AMP girls very well (outside the business). This was a Korean girl in a large all Korean AMP. During our many non-AMP times together she told many stories of that spa, I'm 100% confident that her AMP was not a sex slavery place. She and the other girls worked there by choice.
I have no doubts that some AMPs operate as described in recent published reports. It just isn't 100%.
I think most of us are already aware that attitudes of commercial sex in much of Asia are much different than in North America. It's not a highly regarded vocation, but it also isn't taboo as it is in North America.
Any of you boys know an AMP or even provider that does manscaping? Can be legit too LOL. Need the back and maybe other places shaved.
[QUOTE=Horsetrader;4170500]I have no idea what the percentage is, but I'm certain it isn't 100%.
Several years ago I got to know one of the Philadelphia AMP girls very well (outside the business). This was a Korean girl in a large all Korean AMP. During our many non-AMP times together she told many stories of that spa, I'm 100% confident that her AMP was not a sex slavery place. She and the other girls worked there by choice.
I have no doubts that some AMPs operate as described in recent published reports. It just isn't 100%.
I think most of us are already aware that attitudes of commercial sex in much of Asia are much different than in North America. It's not a highly regarded vocation, but it also isn't taboo as it is in North America.[/QUOTE]When I say 100% I mean that it absolutely occurs and that it's commonplace. Now that doesn't mean it's everywhere. In most AMP maybe. Definitely not all. I know of 2-3 places in Orlando that are not affiliated with any syndicates that are primarily AMP.
[QUOTE=SplitLickity1;4169779]They decided to close on their own. May open back up, who knows. Sad.[/QUOTE]Anyone try to call or text one of the girls? I know some of them gave out their cell numbers to certain clients.
So I'm sure it has all ready been asked but I'm not searching threw all the bs. But with the recent arrest in Jupiter IF and just IF the ladies at the Parlour were a licensed "massage therapist " and the police put cameras in the rooms wouldn't that fall under the privacy law for "medical reasons". Just wondering.
Stay safe.
Ok, it's already started. Went to the doctors today and got a new intern, Dr Cho, cute young Asian woman, could easily work at BO or GG, she bent over to get something off the floor and showed her ass off. Wanted to reach out grab a handful, but figured that wouldn't be a smart idea. Hopefully the heat won't be on for too long.
Bigstar1.
[QUOTE=MrOrlando;4170634]Anyone try to call or text one of the girls? I know some of them gave out their cell numbers to certain clients.[/QUOTE]No need to. I was there when they were getting ready to shut down. All of the girls went home. Everyone is ok.
[QUOTE=TapDisBong;4169994]Seems like the police and prosecutor are using the same play book they use in Seattle. Reel the public in with the headlines of Sex slavery and human trafficking getting the public on your side. But then you peel the layers off to find out it was just a bunch of working girls that want to make a buck. Wouldn't surprise me if Sawanee Hunt and her organization isn't behind funding this sting. Sucks for the dudes when they just want to get some relief.[/QUOTE]I knew some of the dudes from The League and some of the girls who got busted in Seattle in Jan2017. No way this was HT. Strictly entrepreneurs trying to make a better income in America. It is true that trafficking occurs and should be prosecuted but the neoabolishonists are trying to paint all pay for play with the broad brush of HT. Distinctions must be made based on the concept of consent. Just because a woman lives where she works and travels to other similar venues does not equal slavery. Anyone the least familiar with the Kgirl scene knows they are free agents. Political motives drive a lot of this as does puritanical religiosity. These are the same hard on types who brought you Sesta / fosta on similar disinformation.
The more they drive these women into the underground the worse their life will be.
[blue]Want to know what was really going on in Florida and why this broke when it did. It's no fucking surprise, they timed it to break three weeks in front of the election
[url]https://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/20190115/jupiter-mayor-faces-challenger-in-march-election[/url]
It's the same shit all over the world.
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[QUOTE=SplitLickity1;4170740]No need to. I was there when they were getting ready to shut down. All of the girls went home. Everyone is ok.[/QUOTE]Good to hear. Which place is this? GG or BO or Tokyo?
[QUOTE=Pbwardy02;4170277]Dude, gtfo with that. There is 100% sex slavery in the AMP hustle. I'm a patron. I've gotten my beak wet countless times at an AMP. I recognize I am part of the problem of this larger issue. I just don't care. I'm a selfish asshole. That said, the issues raised here are not phony or a media hustle. It's very real. Asian sex slavery is a problem.[/QUOTE]Not true. The girls come and go as they please. I've seen it happen--I've seen them quit and call a taxi and head to the bus station because they got mad for some reason. They go on vacations. They'll decide to take a shopping trip to NYC if they feel like it. They go back to the old country when they save up enough money for whatever it is they want to do. The girls peruse the ads online to see where spas are offering better deals, and they'll change bosses in heartbeat if they think it's to their advantage. Does sex slavery happen? Of course it does, but it's the rare exception in AMPs, not the rule.
[QUOTE=ShaggyJax;4170186]What mainstream media should be reporting on is why a Judge or Judges signed off on law enforcement to A) call in a false bomb threat to a private business concern so they could; B) conduct video voyeurism. There should be a number of judges, police chiefs, and lower levels of LEO who should both lose their jobs and be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for committing those crimes. If government is allowed to get away with these crimes, then there is no place and no activity that can't be secretly recorded by them. If the government is truly worried about the well being of AMP workers that might be trafficked for nefarious purposes, then all they have to do is raid the place with INS or Border Patrol and ask for their papers. Anyone that answered "Yes, I'm being held here against my will and forced to have anonymous sex with strangers" should be taken into protective custody. Then, and only then, could an investigation begin to discover who is responsible for their being in that situation / condition.
Shaggy.[/QUOTE]Big Brother is watching you!
[QUOTE=Jokester1;4170828]Not true. The girls come and go as they please. I've seen it happen--I've seen them quit and call a taxi and head to the bus station because they got mad for some reason. They go on vacations. They'll decide to take a shopping trip to NYC if they feel like it. They go back to the old country when they save up enough money for whatever it is they want to do. The girls peruse the ads online to see where spas are offering better deals, and they'll change bosses in heartbeat if they think it's to their advantage. Does sex slavery happen? Of course it does, but it's the rare exception in AMPs, not the rule.[/QUOTE]I wonder if some of this is by nationality. I wonder if there is some differences between Korean, Chinese, and other AMPs. The girls I talked to all were doing it for something. Several were going to school. Others for just the money. But I have never gotten the impression they were doing it unwillingly, quite the opposite actually. All were here willingly as far as I could tell and would use up their visa then go home for awhile then come back. Some have apartments some do not, but if they were staying in the business I was told it was to save money. I have seen them out as a group at a sushi place down the street laughing up a storm having fun. I've even had the mamasan try to get me to take one of the girls out, if they are trafficking I doubt they would try that. Now I'm not the most experienced monger and have only gone to a few places. But nothing I have seen seems remotely like sex slavery, just pros from another country.
[blue]Hookers eating sushi as a group doesn't win elections, they were poor unfortunate women forced to live in squalor and suck old fat guys cocks for a living.
[url]https://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/20190115/jupiter-mayor-faces-challenger-in-march-election[/url]
That on the other hand does win elections.
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[QUOTE=SplitLickity1;4170740]No need to. I was there when they were getting ready to shut down. All of the girls went home. Everyone is ok.[/QUOTE]But I actually meant to see if they were seeing clients on the side? Maybe they've got a incall? (Don't hate me, I'm horny LOL).