Massage Parlor Reports

Thanks Jimmy. I could be wrong, in which case my apologies to all you fellows who might have been deterred from a good experience. However, I googled Fu Shen and discovered a $50 coupon that seems to be valid for most of the week. So, who knows? In any case, I just do not like the negotiation, would prefer to walk in and relax without being hustled along.

P.S. Makes me feel better --;)


[QUOTE=Jimmy Pratt]BA -

Not sure if this qualifies as "rubbing it in" or "making you feel better", but Fu-Shen's standard fee is actually $80/hr. So, the $60 was neither the Tues special nor the usual price.

I've found that on Tuesdays, the girls ask for higher tips for the HE and will usually tell you outright that they aren't getting any of the house fee because of the special. I haven't been there in a while because I feel it shouldn't be my problem if the house wants to attract customers by offering a special (as opposed to a normally over-priced hour) by taking it out of the provider's pocket!

Also, one time I went there on a Friday and basically got the exact same service for like $10 less in tip, so the net difference was proof that I should only go there on Tuesdays, even for higher tip.

JP[/QUOTE]

Travelure,

Actually, my intent was to poke fun at myself and my fellow more experienced Hobbyists. Personally, I know I take the Hobby too seriously, reading significance into every detail of the massage experience --for example, worrying entirely too much about whether the lady I see today will try to up sell me, ask for a bigger tip than last time, permit more roaming and otherwise open the doors to the long-sought Promised Land, the vision of which compels me to try new places or new ladies at old places.

As for your questions:

1. I recommend the one hour approach for your first visit to a place. While it is true that both :30 and :60 can and most likely will end the same, if you are new to the Spa or to the lady it may take some time for her to feel comfortable with you before providing a sensual experience. One half hour just may not be sufficient for that comfort level to be realized.

2. Nude, yes, if you are comfortable with that. And as has been said, you can always grab a towel and throw it over your backside. As for me, I never remove my pork pie hat, much to the chagrin of the massage ladies, but I think it lends an aura of mystery. Besides, when they have been able to gaze upon my rippling muscles and shapely buttocks, they demand DATY instantly, and find it rather erotic to look down and see the hat moving around between their legs as I reach up and pinch their nipples 'tween thumb and forefinger.

Good luck!


[QUOTE=Smoke Screen]No, half hour or hour should all end the same, but don't forget to leave a decent tip either way. A half hour is really not nearly long enough unless you're only going for the ending, if so, you're missing out on alot of the experience.

2. You're naked as a jay bird, your birthday suit. If you're uncomfortable with that there are towels available for you to put over you. Also if the massuse is uncomfortable (which she won't be) she could cover you.

Don't let all the sarcasm you'll get from asking a question deter you. Best advice I can give you when you have a question is to go back in the forum and read as many reports as you can, some senior members don't have any use for newbies asking questions without looking for the answers yourself, the more you read the more you'll know.

Good luck & have fun.[/QUOTE]

Anybody see anything wrong with this ad?

-- My name is Arianna and I'm a young, busty, curvacious, italian beauty. I am very down-to-earth, very sweet and friendly. I'm a great listener and enjoy making others feel better. I am offering to give you an amazing full-body relaxation massage, along with my excellent company, for one, one and a half, or two hour sessions.

I will come to you as I do not have a location where I can host. I will wear something cute and comfortable so that you may really enjoy your totally relaxing session.

For this wonderful massage experience with a beautiful, sweet, non-pro girl, my rate is $160/hour. ($250 for 1.5 hours, $375 for 2 hours) --

[QUOTE=Chase33]Anybody see anything wrong with this ad?

-- My name is Arianna and I'm a young, busty, curvacious, italian beauty. I am very down-to-earth, very sweet and friendly. I'm a great listener and enjoy making others feel better. I am offering to give you an amazing full-body relaxation massage, along with my excellent company, for one, one and a half, or two hour sessions.

I will come to you as I do not have a location where I can host. I will wear something cute and comfortable so that you may really enjoy your totally relaxing session.

For this wonderful massage experience with a beautiful, sweet, non-pro girl, my rate is $160/hour. ($250 for 1.5 hours, $375 for 2 hours) --[/QUOTE]
if you do a google search of this Number you'll find that its an agency with multiple ads and diff Pics

Nikki is a 24 Y.O asian girl who's looking to leave an agency that's screwing her out of money .Therefore the name change
She's 5;6 125bls and B cups
$150 sensual massage. Highly recommended
you can reach her by e-mail and she will send you Pics
[email]nikkimina25@yahoo.com[/email]

Saw Bella at Heavenly Touch 25 in Holbrook last week.

Her massage technique has improved quite a bit. Her teasing talent was in no need of improvement, it is quite great as it is!

She is cute, great body, friendly and playful, and, in general, a joy to be with.

You leave her very happy.

[QUOTE=Perfect Man]Nikki is a 24 Y.O asian girl who's looking to leave an agency that's screwing her out of money .Therefore the name change.

She's 5;6 125bls and B cups

$150 sensual massage. Highly recommended

you can reach her by e-mail and she will send you Pics

[email]nikkimina25@yahoo.com[/email][/QUOTE]Includes fs?

Saw JoJo today, decent time, very affordable, and by the way her girls are very fake. Saw Annie on the way out she looks to be more of my type, is she as friendly as her co-worker?

[QUOTE=Sixpack Joe]Has anyone given this place a try? The girls in the picture look familiar.

Address: 1034 Cambridge St, 2nd Floor, Cambridge, MA 02141

Rates are:

1 Hour = $80.00
1-1/2 Hours = $110.00
2 Hours = $150.00

Call: 617-868-0827 (11am-9pm)
I just saw the ad on CL, probably go tomorrow. Also I noticed a new massage place that has opened literally inside Spice and Rice (a restaurant a block away from S'bai).[/QUOTE]Personally I am staying away from any of her places, since you never know who he or she really is.

[QUOTE=Amp Slave]Personally I am staying away from any of her places, since you never know who he or she really is.[/QUOTE]I don't think this place is Jolin's. I was told by one of the girls that it's Jenna's. I've seen all three of the female therapists advertised - no questions there. One male therapist is advertised as such.

[QUOTE=Amp Slave]Personally I am staying away from any of her places, since you never know who he or she really is.[/QUOTE]Sbai isn't one of Jolin's places. I've been there 3 times and have spoken to 3 different girls there. Sbai is NOT a Jolin place and they don't have transgender there. As for my experience, it's very clean and the girls are nice too.

I was aching from a work out and got out of a meeting early. Decided to try a place in Marlboro with digits ending in 0123. Nice clean place .7 for an hour that actually lasted for about an hour and 20 from "Sophia" who used to be Nicole at 32 South in Waltham, great theraputic, but not a hint of anything else.

After being a regular with Linda at main st. in stoneham I wanted to try someone different. So after reading a few reports I called Montvale ave. and set up an appointment. When I got there I was greeted by a middle aged girl and I knew it was Hong just from reading this forum. She asked if I've been there before and I said yes with Lucy who I read about and knew she was no longer working there. The massage was OK nothing to brag about. She did take her shirt off and then dropped her pants played with her kitty. The ending was very mechanical with some moaning but really did nothing for me as she is not that attracting. She said the other girls were on vacation. After the session she walks me out and shows me suite 117 around the corner and tells me if I come back to call a different number and to go to that room. Don't know what that is all about because I don't give a shit what suite I'm in. Might go back to try other girls. 60 + 40 not a bad price.

Another great time with Amy at Angels today. She has the best technique I've ever experienced. Beautiful with a great body! Love it. Standard $60/$40

[QUOTE=Amp Slave]Personally I am staying away from any of her places, since you never know who he or she really is.[/QUOTE]I don't think this Cambridge place is a Jolin's place but I could be wrong. I go to the Braintree location often and if you tell them you do not want a ts you will not get one. However if you are a walk in and do not ask you will get the next girl/ts on the rotation. So make sure you ask.

[QUOTE=Rito1]I don't think this Cambridge place is a Jolin's place but I could be wrong. I go to the Braintree location often and if you tell them you do not want a ts you will not get one. However if you are a walk in and do not ask you will get the next girl/ts on the rotation. So make sure you ask.[/QUOTE] I did a google search for a phone number I saw listed and the place in Oak Sq Brighton came up.

I saw Hong about a month ago (yeah, a little late with the report. Feels just like high school). I'd say age is late 30's early 40's. Not bad looking. Pretty good massage but not deep. She told me she goesn't like to give deep massages. To start out she had me Nice HE. I'd repeat. Session ran the whole hour which is a big plus for me. As I gave her her tip she gave me a big hug and I could tell she was counting the tip as we hugged which was a downer for me. I'd repeat though.

[QUOTE=Rito1]I don't think this Cambridge place is a Jolin's place but I could be wrong. I go to the Braintree location often and if you tell them you do not want a ts you will not get one. However if you are a walk in and do not ask you will get the next girl/ts on the rotation. So make sure you ask.[/QUOTE]Saw Sandy on Mass Ave. She does use a lot of oil but does manage to wipe most of it off but it was one of the lamest massages I've ever had plus a few thai massage techniques does not make a thai massage. Just a lot of rubbing with no real technique to the massage. She then had me flip over and asks me if I want FS which I declined. She wanted way too much money. But I did take her offer of a bj. Which she left the room to get a condom and that took 5 minutes. I forgot what I tipped her. I think 60. Incredible tits and a nice ass. She had one hell of a doctor. I wouldn't repeat. I was in and out in about 40 minutes and thats counting the 5 minutes she left in the middle of everything.

Had her once. She was pretty good. Very cute and skinny and as young as JoJo. Friendly enough. Left happy.

[QUOTE=Basil]Saw JoJo today, decent time, very affordable, and by the way her girls are very fake. Saw Annie on the way out she looks to be more of my type, is she as friendly as her co-worker?[/QUOTE]

Annie is a very sweet lady, just as friendly as Jo Jo and somehow more "real" I think. Haven't seen Annie myself in some time as she became so popular that booking a session with her was impossible. Same is now happening with Jo Jo.

I've sworn off the place for now...too many change-ups mid-session, too many calls and chiming doorbells. Reminds me of Lavender last summer when I once counted 7 interruptions in 60 minutes. When I was there last week just before closing time the calls kept coming, the doorbell kept ringing and the ladies were all occupied (one with me).

I mean, c'mon people! High time we all focused on finding new as yet undiscovered places and left the Bonans to the walk-ins they seem to value so much.

[QUOTE=Basil]Saw JoJo today, decent time, very affordable, and by the way her girls are very fake. Saw Annie on the way out she looks to be more of my type, is she as friendly as her co-worker?[/QUOTE]

From our perspective. Yeah. From hers. No

[QUOTE=Chase33]Anybody see anything wrong with this ad?

-- My name is Arianna and I'm a young, busty, curvacious, italian beauty. I am very down-to-earth, very sweet and friendly. I'm a great listener and enjoy making others feel better. I am offering to give you an amazing full-body relaxation massage, along with my excellent company, for one, one and a half, or two hour sessions.

I will come to you as I do not have a location where I can host. I will wear something cute and comfortable so that you may really enjoy your totally relaxing session.

For this wonderful massage experience with a beautiful, sweet, non-pro girl, my rate is $160/hour. ($250 for 1.5 hours, $375 for 2 hours) --[/QUOTE]

Thank you sirs. Your answers are very helpful, hopefully I will post a report soon.

Curious about everyone's desire to DATY providers

[QUOTE=Boston Ampfan]Travelure,

Actually, my intent was to poke fun at myself and my fellow more experienced Hobbyists. Personally, I know I take the Hobby too seriously, reading significance into every detail of the massage experience --for example, worrying entirely too much about whether the lady I see today will try to up sell me, ask for a bigger tip than last time, permit more roaming and otherwise open the doors to the long-sought Promised Land, the vision of which compels me to try new places or new ladies at old places.

As for your questions:

1. I recommend the one hour approach for your first visit to a place. While it is true that both :30 and :60 can and most likely will end the same, if you are new to the Spa or to the lady it may take some time for her to feel comfortable with you before providing a sensual experience. One half hour just may not be sufficient for that comfort level to be realized.

2. Nude, yes, if you are comfortable with that. And as has been said, you can always grab a towel and throw it over your backside. As for me, I never remove my pork pie hat, much to the chagrin of the massage ladies, but I think it lends an aura of mystery. Besides, when they have been able to gaze upon my rippling muscles and shapely buttocks, they demand DATY instantly, and find it rather erotic to look down and see the hat moving around between their legs as I reach up and pinch their nipples 'tween thumb and forefinger.

Good luck![/QUOTE]

I checked out the new S'Bai and it is a nice facility. Massage is Thai combo of massage & stretching and there are no interruptions during the session as someone is at the front desk answering the phones.

I saw Chacha who is young & petite. Looks like some of the girls may have come from Oak Square or Mass Ave Thai places. Massage was good and she is very nice. Was hesitant about the HE but with a little convincing she gave me a nice finish. No roaming ( but may allow it later ). .80 plus .40 tip. Will repeat

Just reporting that I was over at WW last week and neglected to specify who I wanted to C. That was a mistake. As a result, I was taken in by a "newer" person I had not yet met.

Long story short, the typical WW experience was not enjoyed. The woman did a reasonably good job at the massage but no tease whatsoever until the flip. From the HE side, I actually considered stopping before the end. To top it all off, she very much was not the looker (I personally don't find any of the staff there that attractive but the overall experience greatly exceeds. Imo. That part)

Perhaps other folks here know who I am talking about but the moral of the story is to definitely specify the person you want a massage from. I do not recommend this newer person. Unfortunately I didn't catch the name but I've been there quite a few times and know this is not a person frequently mentioned on this board in the past.

Good Luck and Stay Safe!

A bit of a newbie question. As I have done very little TOFTT-ing.

In general, when looking for "the right" kind of massage, look for:

- ads that offer the massage at 60 (which would seem too low unless you were expecting a healthy tip).

- ads in some publications/websites are more likely to be "winners" than others.

- ads without pics, covered faces, or obviously stolen pics.

Any thoughts?

I promise ot do some TOFTTing going forward. But would like to try and increase my batting average if possible.

GG

[QUOTE=Tinynuts99]I checked out the new S'Bai and it is a nice facility. Massage is Thai combo of massage & stretching and there are no interruptions during the session as someone is at the front desk answering the phones.

I saw Chacha who is young & petite. Looks like some of the girls may have come from Oak Square or Mass Ave Thai places. Massage was good and she is very nice. Was hesitant about the HE but with a little convincing she gave me a nice finish. No roaming ( but may allow it later ). .80 plus .40 tip. Will repeat[/QUOTE]One of the girls there is Jen from Mass Ave.

[QUOTE=Travelure]Thank you sirs. Your answers are very helpful, hopefully I will post a report soon.

Curious about everyone's desire to DATY providers[/QUOTE]I know alot of guys do it with providers but I'm totally against it. There are plenty of diseases that can be caught by DATY. I realize it's not nearly as common as BBFS or BBBJ but it still happens. I'm not saying I don't want to, just saying it's not worth the gamble for me, I'm enjoying life too much to screw it up.

Play safe.

I mentioned DATY only because, having gazed upon my rippling musculature, the ladies often ask me for this service, but that does not mean that I often provide it.

Seriously, though, I've also thought about this topic recently, having read more than a few reports in which fellows say "the girl was [ugly/below average/average/older than I like/younger than I like/fatter than I like/really, really big/extremely hefty/a real heifer] and --wow!--she even permitted DATY!" Which only prompts me to ask: Why? As in, why would a grown man provide DATY to a woman he did not find to be really attractive? Maybe because in his civilian life he does not have ready access to DATY-tolerant women and the Rent-A-Girl service is the best he can do and that is By Gosh, good enough. Or maybe it is the thrill of the chase, the opportunity to experiment in a sincerely intimate manner with a woman he does not know and has not seen before.

I am careful about DATY. As you will already know, DATY is a form of direct sexual contact and as such can have unfavorable consequences. In other words, it is useful to know something about the lady with whom you are sharing a meal. But that does not eliminate the risks of DATY with AMP ladies or other providers.... it only creates the illusion that they are minimized.

Good luck. And keep the questions coming ;)



[QUOTE=Travelure]Thank you sirs. Your answers are very helpful, hopefully I will post a report soon.

Curious about everyone's desire to DATY providers[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Top Floor]Saw Sandy on Mass Ave. [/QUOTE]

you got the TS

[QUOTE=Catnibbler]One of the girls there is Jen from Mass Ave.[/QUOTE]

Shanna is another working there now who previously worked at Mass Ave. Another came from Brighton.

[QUOTE=Yello Tail]Shanna is another working there now who previously worked at Mass Ave. Another came from Brighton.[/QUOTE]If any of the girls or boys worked on Mass Ave or Oak in Brighton then it's a Jolin's place.

[QUOTE=Amp Slave]If any of the girls or boys worked on Mass Ave or Oak in Brighton then it's a Jolin's place.[/QUOTE]Actually Mass Ave and Oak in Brighton are not Jolin's places, she only has 3 locations. (Chinatown, Framingham, Braintree) Cambridge and Brighton are independent.

[QUOTE=Amp Slave]If any of the girls or boys worked on Mass Ave or Oak in Brighton then it's a Jolin's place.[/QUOTE]


They all know Jolin. Some were trained by Jolin. But this group is independent of Jolin now.

In my experience, 60, 70 or 80 is not an indication of anything. I prefer to pay 60 and tip 40 if things work out in my favor. If I pay 70, again I tip 30 to 40.

You can never go by the ads regardless of where you find them. Unless the provider is independent or it is one of the Thai places), all pictures are fake. Just some hot looking 19 year old model with a nice set and a smile to lure you in. The thought is that once you are there, and face to face for a 40, 50 or 60 year old (okay sometimes they might be younger), you'll be so horny from the trip over thinking about that sweet young thing in the pic, that you will stick around. If I don't like what I see when I walk in the door, I just ask for a quote - how much is your massage? - then say thank you and walk out. If they ask you to stay, just say you don't have time right now.

Ads without pics - again as all pics tend to be fake, no pic doesn't mean that they are so ugly they left the pic out!

Trying not to get a bad experience is why people read the board. That doesn't mean you will have the exact same experience as someone else. The best advice ever given is YMMV - your mileage may vary. In some places (typically AAMP's - apartment Asian massage parlor) the women rotate out every 10 days. He gets the hot one on her last day and you get the dog on her first day and wonder if the poster was blind, dumb or just plain stupid.

Which brings me to my last piece of advice. You really have to follow a poster and his posts against your own experience. I went to a few places that some poster raved about. Hot 30 year old, nice rack, blah, blah, blah. I went and found 50 year old trolls! Poster should change his name to Shrek.

So like the advice YMMV, every poster has his own score card. Someone gives a ten where someone else would score it 5. Some young inexperienced guy gets his junk tugged by a mature women for the first time and suddenly she is his ATF! (all time favorite). He can't say enough things about her. Not to knock the older providers, some may have lots of miles on them but have lots experience in making you happy - I liked two-pop Susan even though she was on the older side. And Aiko is another older woman with very good massage skills.

My advice, if you are interested in the massage part of the experience - stay out of the AAMP's. Women turn over too fast and they tend to be FS places where they are hoping you'll spend 160 or more for a crappy massage and who knows how they good they are with the FS. (For the most part it's not like going to Providence - although there are some hidden gems). Go to store front places. Staff tends to stay for longer periods of time. They get to know you and you will find the visits less awkward. If I get a great massage and some hopeful signs on the first visit, I usually give a place a second chance. Be friendly and treat the ladies with respect.

Oh, I almost forget the sage, old advice that seniors are suppose to give to newbies - RTFB!


[QUOTE=Guitarguru]A bit of a newbie question. As I have done very little TOFTT-ing.

In general, when looking for "the right" kind of massage, look for:

- ads that offer the massage at 60 (which would seem too low unless you were expecting a healthy tip).

- ads in some publications/websites are more likely to be "winners" than others.

- ads without pics, covered faces, or obviously stolen pics.

Any thoughts?

I promise ot do some TOFTTing going forward. But would like to try and increase my batting average if possible.

GG[/QUOTE]

[url]http://boston.backpage.com/BodyRubs/new-new-new-visiting-and-simply-beautiful-relaxing-body-work-new-new-new-22/3896625[/url]

Come and see Eve, for a great sensual body works session! ~ I have 2 options for you - 1.)sensual relaxing body rub, with heated oils and towels or 2.)deep tissue work, hard but slow movements that increase oxygen into muscles and help relieve toxin build-up. ~ Not your typical massage parlor experience ~ Private Location, Upscale and Discreet!!! I use Unscented Natural Oils and Lotions..Heated for your enjoyment. Every session is a private individualized experience Fresh Sheets, Towels,Soft Relaxing Music, Bottled Waters,and a shower on site. My sweet natured presence will calm and relax you,
putting you in the right state of mind for our time together!

I'm very pretty with a warm, friendly disposition and an easy smile.

Currently I am attending school for massage therapy so I do NOT yet have my massage license and can only offer a theraputic body work session not a licensed massage ~

I am available Mon - Sun 8am-6pm for incall.

I take evening appointments as well(notify me in advance).
$120 for the hour (60min).

I enjoy just keeping things simply sexy and relaxing by offering a full body theraputic session ... I am extremely gifted with my hands and although I am small, my strength surpasses my size!

Warmly, Eve
Hope to hear from you very soon! e-mail me with Name and Number
Poster's age: 22
Well I saw her today and guess what "She KNOWS how to give a real Massage" . She's a pretty girl very nice and friendly. Her place is Clean and spotless. Well worth it

On impulse, I tried the "new massage place" for which I've been seeing ads on CL, digits 0123. Turned out I TOFTT.

Initially thought the signs looked encouraging, talked to a girl with minimal english, who told me to come right over. Found the place (I think they're the only tenants in a multi-unit office building) and paid the mamasan for the hour. Got in the room, undressed, and two girls came in and put me under the towel I'd ignored. One left and the other gave me a pretty decent massage, pretty deep, with good work on knotted muscle. After the first walking-on-back part, she was ok with ditching the towel. Not obvious teasing, but got right up against the boys enough times that I was anticipating more. After the flip, more almost-teasing, and I accidentally caressed her thigh, which she seemed ok with.

Unfortunately, then she got a hot towel, wiped off the small amount of oil, and said all done. I asked if she would massage the obvious area, but she just looked blank and left.

It may be that they're just legit, and that's her usual style. Or it may be that it was my first time, and I made the mistake of saying so when she asked. They gave me a card, after 10 you get a free one.

I may repeat, at least once, because it was a good massage, and there were enough hints that it may be worth seeing if there's more available on subsequent visits. Or maybe not, there are other options for good massage in the area, like Suzie or Leeza. Damage $70+. 1.

Nuff said

Pm for details.

I've seen at least three ladies at 224 in CT. First Jojo, then Momo, and most recently Bobo. As reported, Bobo is young and sortof cute. She has some meat on her bones, but doesn't mind if you cop a feel. I visited her for a half hour, during the day last week and she spent most of the time with one hand on me and another on the phone. Interestingly, she has some backup in the building, and sent the backup down in her place. As in, "Okay honey I be right down. " and then places a call to the pinch hitter to go let the fella in. Anyway, the massage was fine, if not slightly above average. OTC roaming no prob. A little light touch and straight to business on the flip. I asked about removing the top and only then did she ask how well I planned to take care of her. Damage: 40 + 30. I probably won't repeat because I'm a fiend for variety but one could do worse.

Perfect Man,

How about some details Dude? Por Favor!

[QUOTE=Perfect Man][url]http://boston.backpage.com/BodyRubs/new-new-new-visiting-and-simply-beautiful-relaxing-body-work-new-new-new-22/3896625[/url]

Come and see Eve, for a great sensual body works session! I have 2 options for you. 1.)sensual relaxing body rub, with heated oils and towels or 2.)deep tissue work, hard but slow movements that increase oxygen into muscles and help relieve toxin build-up. Not your typical massage parlor experience Private Location, Upscale and Discreet! I use Unscented Natural Oils and Lotions. Heated for your enjoyment. Every session is a private individualized experience Fresh Sheets, Towels, Soft Relaxing Music, Bottled Waters, and a shower on site. My sweet natured presence will calm and relax you,

Putting you in the right state of mind for our time together!

I'm very pretty with a warm, friendly disposition and an easy smile.

Currently I am attending school for massage therapy so I do NOT yet have my massage license and can only offer a theraputic body work session not a licensed massage

I am available Mon. Sun 8am-6pm for incall.

I take evening appointments as well(notify me in advance).

$120 for the hour (60min).

I enjoy just keeping things simply sexy and relaxing by offering a full body theraputic session. I am extremely gifted with my hands and although I am small, my strength surpasses my size!

Warmly, Eve

Hope to hear from you very soon! E-mail me with Name and Number

Poster's age: 22

Well I saw her today and guess what "She KNOWS how to give a real Massage". She's a pretty girl very nice and friendly. Her place is Clean and spotless. Well worth it[/QUOTE]Anything else to go with the good massage? HE?