Agency Discussion and Reviews

[QUOTE=Himeros32;6377320]What is the best time / day to secure a visit? I live in the boonies, and want to make sure I plan my trip into the area when I will have the most success. Morning, afternoon, evening? Weekday vs weekend?[/QUOTE]Anytime. It's all based around the girl and what kind of day she is having. She could be fresh in the morning and ready to go or super tired after getting bad sleep. She could be completely hollowed out after a long day of work with rough guys or extra excited after getting teased without a true O. Last call can be a clocking out session but some girls like to put in a last bit of effort before finishing for the day.

IMO, it's not worth worrying about too much since there are a million factors that can make a session go sideways. The only thing you can control is not getting yourself too hyped up for the perfect or optimal experience and just going with the flow.

[QUOTE=HellBoyX;6377540]I took a good 24 hours before writing this review so that I could make sure I was not being emotional.

Review:

Saw Camila from Elite in Tysons. I had used the agency before in the past with mixed results, but was in the mood for some Latina blood so I drew Camila. She is the girl in the picture, but a good amount more curvyier. Pretty face with alot of makeup and she wears perfume so be advised. I met her at an ok hotel in Tysons. She greeted me at the door and I had almost fallen up the stairs so I made a funny joke to break the ice. No kiss or even hug but I just brushed that off to me joking. She speaks English well, and we talked about where she is from and where I am from etc. She was not really being very. Inviting so I asked if she wanted me to take a shower, even though I had just taken one prior to coming. She said no, and that there were not any towels anyways. I proceeded to get comfortable and she was close to me but still not getting the hint. I started kissing on her while she was standing, and complimenting her curves (I LIKE curvy girls, and for me it was good, but again more curvy than the pics for sure). She started getting comfortable, but still no kissing, and she asked me to lay down. She started some BBJ and it was good. Lots of eye contact and mouth usage. I was getting close to blowing as I don't get alot of these activities recently so she asked if I wanted to go fast or slow. I said I would like to try for two cups today and she giggled. She found a cover and applied it and mounted me for some CG. It felt great. I found her very attractive and it was VERY hard to stop myself. So I blew fairly quickly. She then helped clean me off.

Now we were only like 20 minutes in. But here is where it went downhill. She grabbed a nightgown and put it on and laid next to me on her side. We chit chatted and laughed for a good 10 minutes and I felt like she was really enjoying herself. I then started to make it clear that I was ready to go again. I kissed her on her body. Not really any response. So I kept kissing on her. Rubbing on her and massaging her. From her legs up to her torso. Still nothing. No opening up or even really acknowledging it. She just kept trying to talk and ask me questions. Now look I'm not a hunk but I'm mid 30's and in decent shape and don't think I'm exactly a dog. I'm probably at least a 5 to 6 here on the conservatives side as I have pulled free hot chicks in the recent past so I have some game here. She just would not open up at all. I even tried kissing the LITTLE bit of exposed breast she had. Nothing. After about 15 minutes I got up and said fine. I jumped in the shower to wash off her perfume and made it very clear I was not happy. I even asked her. I said what is the issue here? Do you just not respect nice guys? Her response is "I don't know why your leaving early". I left with 15 minutes still on the clock and messaged the bookers. Now I know that they are going to take the girls side. I'm not a huge client with them but I may have ended up being one as I have the resources to do this fairly often. They responded by saying that she's never had issues in the past and "Always" provides two cups. Wow. $$ down the drain. I could have hit a Latina Crap Shot 4 times for a short stay to get the same effect, and probably had just about the same experience.

[URL]https://elitemodels.es/treepage.php?id_staff=162[/URL]

L:7 B:7 A:4.

Rant:

I'm not asking for any harm to come to anyone, but if any of you are set on seeing her anyways. Can you do me a favor and make sure you get yours? Show her what an asshole can be like for me. Because she CLEARLY does not respect kind, gentle and romantic guys. Again Not wishing harm. She just needs to realize what an asshole can be like. I've had plenty of Latinas and I've warmed them up many times. Granted some have zero respect for kind people so I get it. But she clearly took advantage of me, and so did the agency.[/QUOTE]I saw Camila before the price hike for half hour and she's definitely not GFE. She's pretty but her service was clearly not worth 250 and it damn sure isn't worth the 350 elite is charging. I saw Britney in Springfield for 160 for half hour for the same service and she's way hotter than Camila.

[QUOTE=KylerMurray;6377714]Hey man. So sorry this happened to you. My past two visits to them have been a '6' service wise when going off the scoring criteria on THE OTHER SITE. Elite is starting to drop the ball. The girls aren't worth the $$$ . 80 / $$ they are charging. That sounds like a very frustrating experience. The girls are starting to consistently be GFE light. Standard practices such as MSOG, BBBJ, and DFK are up to chance now. I had great experiences with a lot of their talent last year. Saw one girl from there 3 times actually. This year there seems to be no standard of service, and that's the exact reason we chose agencies over indies. To mitigate the performance variance that comes with these providers. I'm sticking with hugs and kisses companions and asian agencies for the remainder of the year. Unless a provider on their roster pops up with outstanding reviews.[/QUOTE]Really appreciate the response (and to others as well). I know its a game here but at these prices we should be getting alot better experiences than we are. It really helps me to know I am not the only one. Not that I WANT you all to be having bad experiences. But if more people know about it than it may cause them to lower the price at the very least. Try to post on the Other Site as well when you can as alot of people including myself use that as a primary research (its free once you post two reviews. Has about a 5 day lag but then you are good as long as you post reviews).

Good time with Becky at Kpop.

Endless long legs & sexy curves with great attitude and performance.

Experienced from the west.

DFK / BBBJ / Rimming / P2 P / CG / RCG / K9/ Mish.

F / B / A / P / Rating.

8/8/9/9/(8/9).

[URL]https://kpopgirls.club/models/vecky/[/URL]

[QUOTE=HellBoyX;6377540]I took a good 24 hours before writing this review so that I could make sure I was not being emotional.

Review:

Saw Camila from Elite in Tysons. I had used the agency before in the past with mixed results, but was in the mood for some Latina blood so I drew Camila. She is the girl in the picture, but a good amount more curvyier. Pretty face with alot of makeup and she wears perfume so be advised. I met her at an ok hotel in Tysons. She greeted me at the door and I had almost fallen up the stairs so I made a funny joke to break the ice. No kiss or even hug but I just brushed that off to me joking. She speaks English well, and we talked about where she is from and where I am from etc. She was not really being very. Inviting so I asked if she wanted me to take a shower, even though I had just taken one prior to coming. She said no, and that there were not any towels anyways. I proceeded to get comfortable and she was close to me but still not getting the hint. I started kissing on her while she was standing, and complimenting her curves (I LIKE curvy girls, and for me it was good, but again more curvy than the pics for sure). She started getting comfortable, but still no kissing, and she asked me to lay down. She started some BBJ and it was good. Lots of eye contact and mouth usage. I was getting close to blowing as I don't get alot of these activities recently so she asked if I wanted to go fast or slow. I said I would like to try for two cups today and she giggled. She found a cover and applied it and mounted me for some CG. It felt great. I found her very attractive and it was VERY hard to stop myself. So I blew fairly quickly. She then helped clean me off.

Now we were only like 20 minutes in. But here is where it went downhill. She grabbed a nightgown and put it on and laid next to me on her side. We chit chatted and laughed for a good 10 minutes and I felt like she was really enjoying herself. I then started to make it clear that I was ready to go again. I kissed her on her body. Not really any response. So I kept kissing on her. Rubbing on her and massaging her. From her legs up to her torso. Still nothing. No opening up or even really acknowledging it. She just kept trying to talk and ask me questions. Now look I'm not a hunk but I'm mid 30's and in decent shape and don't think I'm exactly a dog. I'm probably at least a 5 to 6 here on the conservatives side as I have pulled free hot chicks in the recent past so I have some game here. She just would not open up at all. I even tried kissing the LITTLE bit of exposed breast she had. Nothing. After about 15 minutes I got up and said fine. I jumped in the shower to wash off her perfume and made it very clear I was not happy. I even asked her. I said what is the issue here? Do you just not respect nice guys? Her response is "I don't know why your leaving early". I left with 15 minutes still on the clock and messaged the bookers. Now I know that they are going to take the girls side. I'm not a huge client with them but I may have ended up being one as I have the resources to do this fairly often. They responded by saying that she's never had issues in the past and "Always" provides two cups. Wow. $$ down the drain. I could have hit a Latina Crap Shot 4 times for a short stay to get the same effect, and probably had just about the same experience.

[URL]https://elitemodels.es/treepage.php?id_staff=162[/URL]

L:7 B:7 A:4.

Rant:

I'm not asking for any harm to come to anyone, but if any of you are set on seeing her anyways. Can you do me a favor and make sure you get yours? Show her what an asshole can be like for me. Because she CLEARLY does not respect kind, gentle and romantic guys. Again Not wishing harm. She just needs to realize what an asshole can be like. I've had plenty of Latinas and I've warmed them up many times. Granted some have zero respect for kind people so I get it. But she clearly took advantage of me, and so did the agency.[/QUOTE]

As a veteran in this game, and a serial popper, let me tell you the secret to success for getting a second or third pop out of a seemingly uninterested provider -- just go for it. These hos are skilled in the art of getting the most money for the least amount of work, but one thing that is universally respected among women of all ilks is assertiveness.

Don't beat around the bush, don't appear weak, don't act like they are doing you a favor for providing the service you have paid for, simply go for it. It's not being an asshole, it's being an assertive man claiming stake to what he has paid for. Period. I am not advocating forcing or anything like that, but do go for what you want and act like it is perfectly normal and she will fall in line.

This has worked for me 85% of the time, and almost every single the time the girl is smiling ear to ear when we are done. The 15% of the times it didn't work, I complained to the agency and moved on.

For example, If I come out the bathroom and she has a robe on, I simply gently grab her by the hips, turn her around, untie the robe, grab her breasts then pull her panties down -- she knows what time it is after that and either gets on her knees or gets back in the bed to do her job. Another method is if you are laying down, start to get off the bed and softly grab her by the hand, and she will instinctively let you hold her hand and start to follow you. Motion for her to do what you want after that.

The hottest encounter I had where I initiated multiple pops was years ago with a now defunct DC agency. The girl was pretty new to the business, early / mid 20's, slender and unblemished, and kinda dorky. Her body was perfection, her face was pretty average, but I digress. We made initial chit chat and I can tell she didn't know how to really run a session, and as we were talking when she was mid sentence I didn't take my eyes off of her face but re-positioned myself and removed her thong. I then took her to pound town for a solid 40 min in various positions including some chocking and headlocks thrown in. I can tell she wasn't used to the dominance, but she took it like a champ and was very vocal. I had about 10-12 min left and wanted a 3rd round but could tell she was tapped out. I sat in a chair in the room and started to get myself ready, while she was sitting on the edge of the bed with her panties back on and looking apprehensive. I'm looking her right in her face while I am getting junior to stand at attention, then I motioned her over to me and she obediently rose up and stood before me. I pulled her panties down, put my hand between her legs and told her she was going to get on her knees and finish me off one last time, and if she did a lazy job I was going to put her back on the bed. She did as she was told and took the last load in her mouth. When I was done she gave me a long hug on my way out, I told her she did a good job and was a good girl, and she was beaming as if I gave her a trophy.

Moral of the story: be a man. Don't ask or plead, just go for it. If she really doesn't want to do it, then chalk it up as a lose and don't force it, but the majority of the time she will be down for a man that is taking control of the session he paid for. Take her by the hand and lead her, remove her panties yourself, straight up tell her you what you need her to do next, take the lead. These small, simple motions are appreciated by most providers and will have you leaving happy.

[QUOTE=HellBoyX;6377540]I took a good 24 hours before writing this review so that I could make sure I was not being emotional.[/QUOTE]Elite certainly is dropping the ball. I've been a consistent client with them for years and I've had my fair share of negative experiences, especially lately. A couple of months ago I took my cash and walked out after spending ten minutes with a provider when she made it clear she wasn't offering anything near a GFE experience. I wonder if they actually will ever bring their prices back down to reality or if they'll bring in providers who offer a consistent service.

[QUOTE=Himeros32;6377320]What is the best time / day to secure a visit? I live in the boonies, and want to make sure I plan my trip into the area when I will have the most success. Morning, afternoon, evening? Weekday vs weekend?[/QUOTE]Best time is morning on weekdays. Then avoid the lunchtime crowd. Then again 2-5 pm.

Thanks for taking the time to give some feedback. Ill admit I need to be better about that. I'm just not all that dominate for the most part naturally because for me I have two modes. Nice guy or asshole and I just don't want the asshole to come out unless necessary. With that said, after reading about your experience, its exactly what I want to have. I just got to get the balls to do it, and to learn the appropriate level of assertiveness. With that said I think ill try again (not with Elite LOL) and try to make myself be more assertive.

[QUOTE=Sairento;6378589]As a veteran in this game, and a serial popper, let me tell you the secret to success for getting a second or third pop out of a seemingly uninterested provider -- just go for it. These hos are skilled in the art of getting the most money for the least amount of work, but one thing that is universally respected among women of all ilks is assertiveness.

Don't beat around the bush, don't appear weak, don't act like they are doing you a favor for providing the service you have paid for, simply go for it. It's not being an asshole, it's being an assertive man claiming stake to what he has paid for. Period. I am not advocating forcing or anything like that, but do go for what you want and act like it is perfectly normal and she will fall in line.

This has worked for me 85% of the time, and almost every single the time the girl is smiling ear to ear when we are done. The 15% of the times it didn't work, I complained to the agency and moved on.

For example, If I come out the bathroom and she has a robe on, I simply gently grab her by the hips, turn her around, untie the robe, grab her breasts then pull her panties down -- she knows what time it is after that and either gets on her knees or gets back in the bed to do her job. Another method is if you are laying down, start to get off the bed and softly grab her by the hand, and she will instinctively let you hold her hand and start to follow you. Motion for her to do what you want after that.

The hottest encounter I had where I initiated multiple pops was years ago with a now defunct DC agency. The girl was pretty new to the business, early / mid 20's, slender and unblemished, and kinda dorky. Her body was perfection, her face was pretty average, but I digress. We made initial chit chat and I can tell she didn't know how to really run a session, and as we were talking when she was mid sentence I didn't take my eyes off of her face but re-positioned myself and removed her thong. I then took her to pound town for a solid 40 min in various positions including some chocking and headlocks thrown in. I can tell she wasn't used to the dominance, but she took it like a champ and was very vocal. I had about 10-12 min left and wanted a 3rd round but could tell she was tapped out. I sat in a chair in the room and started to get myself ready, while she was sitting on the edge of the bed with her panties back on and looking apprehensive. I'm looking her right in her face while I am getting junior to stand at attention, then I motioned her over to me and she obediently rose up and stood before me. I pulled her panties down, put my hand between her legs and told her she was going to get on her knees and finish me off one last time, and if she did a lazy job I was going to put her back on the bed. She did as she was told and took the last load in her mouth. When I was done she gave me a long hug on my way out, I told her she did a good job and was a good girl, and she was beaming as if I gave her a trophy.

Moral of the story: be a man. Don't ask or plead, just go for it. If she really doesn't want to do it, then chalk it up as a lose and don't force it, but the majority of the time she will be down for a man that is taking control of the session he paid for. Take her by the hand and lead her, remove her panties yourself, straight up tell her you what you need her to do next, take the lead. These small, simple motions are appreciated by most providers and will have you leaving happy.[/QUOTE]

I will be in town on the 31st and April1. I have been to Kpop in the past. So I go to their website to see who is going be available. No one during these days. I then text the handler ask who will be around. I was told "we are moving locations nearby so closing for a few days" Can you tell me or DM with agency that is closest to the Kpop experiences in the area.

New Lady Ari is using Instagram model bbyambi pics. Doubt she is doing this with almost 1 mil followers, LOL. Not saying Lady Ari won't be hot or good, but don't expect the girl in the pics.

There is a common phase that they say these women are not mind readers. If you want a 2nd round just gently guide her hand down to your member or say "lets go again. " No need to be rude or a jerk about it. Be confident and phrase it as a request not as a question. If you ask it as a question, the easy answer is a no. IF she turns it down then there is your answer. It is nice when they initiate a second round. But again it is your job to tell her what positions and activities you want.

Lady Tiffany's pic don't look real either.

Fake pics. Most of the time was a miss for me.

Had some pleasant suprises but theres so many guaranteed talent around.

[QUOTE=SweetDog;6379551]New Lady Ari is using Instagram model bbyambi pics. Doubt she is doing this with almost 1 mil followers, LOL. Not saying Lady Ari won't be hot or good, but don't expect the girl in the pics.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FabGnale;6378875]I will be in town on the 31st and April1. I have been to Kpop in the past. So I go to their website to see who is going be available. No one during these days. I then text the handler ask who will be around. I was told "we are moving locations nearby so closing for a few days" Can you tell me or DM with agency that is closest to the Kpop experiences in the area.[/QUOTE]Hey, JJ clubs is fairly easy to get into and so is moon palace for a similar experience IMO. Happy hunting.

Considering visiting Elite purely on the basis of it being the only agency I've been able to get verified for. I have a general understanding of what GFE and PSE mean but I'm also aware that in these dreams those are very open to interpretation. Can anyone expound on the minimum one could expect for visiting a provider at Elite who is listed as GFE? The one in consideration has no reviews on the other site to speak of.

2 questions:

1. Whats the deal with LadyLady? Just saw them / their girl on ThE OtheR site, are they yet another kgirl agency? Experiences?

2. Has anyone seen / can recommend any of the current MP jgirl crop? How the hell are we supposed to choose? I think I saw like 8 girls on their site LOL. Petite with a nice ass is my strike zone.

Thanks,