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My comments or questions was to someone saying China mafia robbing AMPs, never going to happen but, I have the AMP girls telling me how sometimes the girls don't get along and potential stealing going on between them, part 2 is AMP girls are not keeping 100% tip after house we give them, you do the math and figure it out, the boss not going to pay all the overhead and make less then the girls.
[QUOTE=DMichaels69;2589194]Diavolo. This happens when you eat to much Korean box. LOL.[/QUOTE]Yea, but it's a side effect I'm willing to suffer through. HAH!!
[QUOTE=IlDiavolo;2590356]Yea, but it's a side effect I'm willing to suffer through. HAH!![/QUOTE]Those last two lines were classic haha! It's all good Langely- got to have a few laughs- life is too short.
[QUOTE=Langley08;2590070]My comments or questions was to someone saying China mafia robbing AMPs, never going to happen but, I have the AMP girls telling me how sometimes the girls don't get along and potential stealing going on between them, part 2 is AMP girls are not keeping 100% tip after house we give them, you do the math and figure it out, the boss not going to pay all the overhead and make less then the girls.[/QUOTE]But they do cause whereever you have non-native, non English speaking illegals in America, they will be exploited. My main point was in the majority of spa's you are being videotaped in the common areas and its for their safety. So for example, did you know there is a serial rapists of massage parlor workers in California since 2003 or so, of course not this is Illinois but I travel and its true. Roughly 20 rapes they have DNA from and of course that just 20 that were reported as the police believe, rightly so I imagine, that many more have gone unreported.
Of course in this politically correct way of newsreporting, they fail to give the race of said criminal and most of the articles are written like Ms. Swan of MAD TV is providing the description.
"He loooook like-a man'.
Wired.
[QUOTE=Morry1;2588286]I went again and followed everyones advice. Still got only one lady, but got BBBJ. Thanks to everyone. But what should I do to get service from more than one?[/QUOTE]I've also not been able to crack the four hand code at Ivy.
Every place is different, but once you are known to one of the girls as a good guy your options and variations should open up. Just make sure you go when it's not busy. Early is best. Go back to the woman that you saw before. Start with her, offer to massage her and a friend that she can pick. That way, you have better odds that the second girl will also get into it. Make sure you really to massage them. Bring multiple hats. Your door fee and tip with go up, of course. You will probably get MSOG. Bob.
[QUOTE=SamLakers;2591180]I've also not been able to crack the four hand code at Ivy.[/QUOTE]
Had a couple of great legit massages here, which I am into, but wondering if anyone has had even a hint of a HE? Seems like they will stay open long after the posted hours if there are clients, but wondering if there are that many dudes looking for a strictly legit massage at 9:00 pm.
[QUOTE=BabyBoy2013;2512369]Late report but I also stopped at Sun last month, was hoping to see Michelle but got Linda instead. Not bad looking and massage was descent. Her english is no so good but left happy as others have reported.[/QUOTE]Hit up Sun for a second time a few weeks ago and had another favorable time with Meme (I think that is what she said). This place is now 2/2 but I did notice it was a lot more busy than the first so much that I was rushed at the end as there was another person waiting and two others already in the room. Definitely will repeat.
[QUOTE=BigSales59;2567247]Was feeling the need yesterday and went to see ivy around 10:30. I was the only monger there, and as a result, got a six hand massage, and a two mouth finish. They are not the youngest, or best looking, but for the price, well worth it. IMHO.[/QUOTE]I still have not been able to get a 6 hand massage with 2 mouth around here.
Had a 4 hand, 2 mouth 2 FS finish but that was not in this area.
I think I'm going to have to try again tonight.
Had Anna at Pinetree the other day. From the minute I walked into the room to the minute I left she was very attentive to say the least giving me one of the better massages I've experienced at pine. After negotiating on price for a few minutes she got things going upon the flip with a great bbj making sure to pay plenty of attention to the boys followed by FS for two rounds covering every position in the book. Overall very enjoyable experience and I'd definitely see her in the future.
Negotiations for a few minutes. That's a bone killer for me.
[QUOTE=RedWolf3006;2594639]Had Anna at Pinetree the other day. From the minute I walked into the room to the minute I left she was very attentive to say the least giving me one of the better massages I've experienced at pine. After negotiating on price for a few minutes she got things going upon the flip with a great bbj making sure to pay plenty of attention to the boys followed by FS for two rounds covering every position in the book. Overall very enjoyable experience and I'd definitely see her in the future.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RedWolf3006;2594639]Had Anna at Pinetree the other day. From the minute I walked into the room to the minute I left she was very attentive to say the least giving me one of the better massages I've experienced at pine. After negotiating on price for a few minutes she got things going upon the flip with a great bbj making sure to pay plenty of attention to the boys followed by FS for two rounds covering every position in the book. Overall very enjoyable experience and I'd definitely see her in the future.[/QUOTE]So couple of questions on this visit:
1) what was the tip amount?
2) I've never had a BBBJ in this place after 15+ visits, and have seen Anna before and most of the others too. They are always very meticulous about using a cover at this place, so I'm more than a little surprised you got BBBJ. Did you specifically ask for it? Pay extra for it?
3) Multiple pops also would be brand new territory at Pine Tree, for the standard fee. So again, did you tip extra?
Thanks man,
Diavolo.
[QUOTE=IlDiavolo;2595686]So couple of questions on this visit:
1) what was the tip amount?
2) I've never had a BBBJ in this place after 15+ visits, and have seen Anna before and most of the others too. They are always very meticulous about using a cover at this place, so I'm more than a little surprised you got BBBJ. Did you specifically ask for it? Pay extra for it?
3) Multiple pops also would be brand new territory at Pine Tree, for the standard fee. So again, did you tip extra?
Thanks man,
Diavolo.[/QUOTE]The tip was 1. 4 which is very reasonable to say the least for what I received. The BBBJ wasn't extra tip she and I had a really good connection going from the start so I think that may have played into it but on the flip she pulled out the cover and I implied I didn't want it quite yet and she willingly complied. The standard tip at pine I've found to be between 1 and 1. 2 so the multiple pops was added into the 1. 4 although she mentioned next time to bring more. Hope this helps.
She say bring more. I'll skip Anna.
[QUOTE=RedWolf3006;2595834]The tip was 1. 4 which is very reasonable to say the least for what I received. The BBBJ wasn't extra tip she and I had a really good connection going from the start so I think that may have played into it but on the flip she pulled out the cover and I implied I didn't want it quite yet and she willingly complied. The standard tip at pine I've found to be between 1 and 1. 2 so the multiple pops was added into the 1. 4 although she mentioned next time to bring more. Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]
Yes, you have pine tree stock bro! LOL.
[QUOTE=IlDiavolo;2595686]So couple of questions on this visit:
1) what was the tip amount?
2) I've never had a BBBJ in this place after 15+ visits, and have seen Anna before and most of the others too. They are always very meticulous about using a cover at this place, so I'm more than a little surprised you got BBBJ. Did you specifically ask for it? Pay extra for it?
3) Multiple pops also would be brand new territory at Pine Tree, for the standard fee. So again, did you tip extra?
Thanks man,
Diavolo.[/QUOTE]
Stopped at PT yesterday, just before noon. Not very busy which was surprising. MS remembered me, grabbed me by the arm took me to room. I get you great girl, she.
Says. Younger very attractive girl comes in, gives a hug and kiss, and we take care of the door fee. She says her name, Victoria, and I give her mine. We headed to.
The TS where I was completely cleaned, and teased. Back to the room for a decent massage and then the flip, no negotiation as I know what the rate is there, we got.
Into a 69 which she enjoyed, I must say I did too (albeit covered). She jumped on RCG, and I finished that way. Cute girl, very playful, had a great time. Hope she stays for awhile.
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[QUOTE=RedWolf3006;2595834]The tip was 1. 4 which is very reasonable to say the least for what I received. The BBBJ wasn't extra tip she and I had a really good connection going from the start so I think that may have played into it but on the flip she pulled out the cover and I implied I didn't want it quite yet and she willingly complied. The standard tip at pine I've found to be between 1 and 1. 2 so the multiple pops was added into the 1. 4 although she mentioned next time to bring more. Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]Cause this didn't happen, BBBJ, MSOG at Pinetree, nope.
[QUOTE=Wirelessone;2597034]Cause this didn't happen, BBBJ, MSOG at Pinetree, nope.[/QUOTE]Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and quite frankly whether you find my post to be truthful or not in no way affects the experience I had. As long as you are somewhat decent looking and have 1. 4 to spare none of what I received from Anna should be an issue so clearly you are lacking one of the two. Have a good one.
[QUOTE=Wirelessone;2597034]Cause this didn't happen, BBBJ, MSOG at Pinetree, nope.[/QUOTE]BBBJ is possible at Pine Tree, have done it many times. MSOG has never been a possibility for me.
I believe you could probably get a BBBJ there depending on who you get. Does not seem to far fetched.
[QUOTE=Bebop60;2597317]BBBJ is possible at Pine Tree, have done it many times. MSOG has never been a possibility for me.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Wirelessone;2597034]Cause this didn't happen, BBBJ, MSOG at Pinetree, nope.[/QUOTE]I got a BBBJ at Pine Tree but not recently. Actually several times and each from a different girl.
[QUOTE=Wirelessone;2597034]Cause this didn't happen, BBBJ, MSOG at Pinetree, nope.[/QUOTE]I didn't doubt whether it happened or not, I just wondered if it was a "YMMV thing" for the standard rate, or if he specifically asked for and tipped more for these extras.
I went to Ivy on Sunday thinking I was going to avoid the crowd but that was not to be. I go there around 130 pm or so and a monger (had that look) was in the parking lot, looking like a young wired one when I started back in the day. He sat in his car, facing the road using the rearview mirror to see who went thru the door, so I let out a laugh cause that's exactly what I did back then. You start asking youself questions, should I go in, I could just keep my money, what if someone see's me, etc.
I was greeted by both ladies and the sign on the inside door also caused me to chuckle, wet therapy, so that's what you call a table shower nowadays. Anyway, got inside and paid the door fee. She asked was I from around here and I said yes and she seemed satisfied with my answer. The table shower, boy it's tiny, so if you're more than a 42 in the waist, it's definitely tight on that ledge.
Back in the room, some massage, below average, for you mongers who evaluate spa's on their massage skills. Anyway, she did a good job with the teasing and grab under. She had me flip, negotiations, the act commenced. I was encouraged to wrap her braid around my hand and use it steady her head whilst she conversed with the wired one. Anyway, I did not get the 4 hand treatment cause when I was in the room, the door bell rang 3 times so I figured I wouldn't get 4 hand treatment. I was out in about 35 minutes so that could upset some mongers. I got no massage after fact so buyer beware if you want your full hour. The other waiting monger came out after I did.
As others have written, neither lady is a beauty queen, now or in the past, but what they offer is a rare and in demand skill set, so that makes them winners.
Wired.
[QUOTE=SamaRy;2594568]I still have not been able to get a 6 hand massage with 2 mouth around here.
Had a 4 hand, 2 mouth 2 FS finish but that was not in this area.
I think I'm going to have to try again tonight.[/QUOTE]Yep, 6 hand and 2 mouth finish was attained. The cons, these ladies are on the old for an asian scale; and that is saying a great deal.
I was surprised that I didn't have to even ask for anything it was all just done. But in my old age I have lost any hint of cop that I used to have. This was on a Wednesday night at 6 PM so YMMV.
I would repeat but only after I try the brand new place down the street. Anyone been to that one yet?
[QUOTE=SamaRy;2611545]Yep, 6 hand and 2 mouth finish was attained. The cons, these ladies are on the old for an asian scale; and that is saying a great deal.
I was surprised that I didn't have to even ask for anything it was all just done. But in my old age I have lost any hint of cop that I used to have. This was on a Wednesday night at 6 PM so YMMV.
I would repeat but only after I try the brand new place down the street. Anyone been to that one yet?[/QUOTE]Which brand new place? What have I missed?
[QUOTE=Bebop60;2597317]BBBJ is possible at Pine Tree, have done it many times. MSOG has never been a possibility for me.[/QUOTE]Same, and the BBBJ is only with certain people. And even when I was frequently going there MSOG? No way.
[QUOTE=Ral613;2594251]Had a couple of great legit massages here, which I am into, but wondering if anyone has had even a hint of a HE? Seems like they will stay open long after the posted hours if there are clients, but wondering if there are that many dudes looking for a strictly legit massage at 9:00 pm.[/QUOTE]Think this is the NEW place I saw advertised. Anyone TOFTT yet? Drove by doesn't look "too legit to quit" yeah sorry super tired.
[QUOTE=Lookin4it;2611559]Which brand new place? What have I missed?[/QUOTE]I think it is Asian Paradise - 801 Butterfield Rd, Lombard, IL.
And I only think it is new, saw a sign when I was going by the other night.
[QUOTE=SamaRy;2611614]I think it is Asian Paradise - 801 Butterfield Rd, Lombard, IL.
And I only think it is new, saw a sign when I was going by the other night.[/QUOTE]Gotcha. Based on the review posted on here about it, it looks like it might be legit. I did a little Google research and it seem at least to TRY to look legit, even having a female review of it (saying how wonderful it is) on Yelp.
It sounds "not likely" at best, but, perhaps a trip there would be worth it. At worst, I get a good massage.
All the Asian Paradise locations are legit massage. Its a pretty good massage.
[QUOTE=SamaRy;2611614]I think it is Asian Paradise - 801 Butterfield Rd, Lombard, IL.
And I only think it is new, saw a sign when I was going by the other night.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lookin4it;2612439]Gotcha. Based on the review posted on here about it, it looks like it might be legit. I did a little Google research and it seem at least to TRY to look legit, even having a female review of it (saying how wonderful it is) on Yelp.
It sounds "not likely" at best, but, perhaps a trip there would be worth it. At worst, I get a good massage.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DMichaels69;2612540]All the Asian Paradise locations are legit massage. Its a pretty good massage.[/QUOTE]
Thanks, DMike. Saved me a trip and a set of blue balls......not that there is anything wrong with a good massage, but when your expectations are one thing and it is less than that, disappointment sets in.
Was heading home. Was destined for PT where I've had luck for decade but was lazy and stayed near Roosevelt. Heard talk about Ivy's and the 4 hand massage so I tried. 8 entry. Shuttled to the first room. Did table shower. Got cleaned pretty good. Things got a little busy with door bell ringing. Ended up in Sauna and massage table for 15 minutes by myself. Tried to relax but was pissed Lady finally came back. 10 minute massage. All standard play and the flip. Very average. Middle age lady. Ended up tipping. . 6 for HS. I told her I was fan of PT. She asked why I said younger ladies. She promised me 4 hand next time. I don't know if I'll be back.
[QUOTE=Kaman203;2612725]Was heading home. Was destined for PT where I've had luck for decade but was lazy and stayed near Roosevelt. Heard talk about Ivy's and the 4 hand massage so I tried. 8 entry. Shuttled to the first room. Did table shower. Got cleaned pretty good. Things got a little busy with door bell ringing. Ended up in Sauna and massage table for 15 minutes by myself. Tried to relax but was pissed Lady finally came back. 10 minute massage. All standard play and the flip. Very average. Middle age lady. Ended up tipping. . 6 for HS. I told her I was fan of PT. She asked why I said younger ladies. She promised me 4 hand next time. I don't know if I'll be back.[/QUOTE]10 minute massage and you give 60 for a tip! Amazing! Rocket Dork.
I had a situation like this at another Korean spa. I was left in the room for 30 minutes. The girl came back. I was dressed and ripped her a new ass hole. She gave me my money back and I left.
Guys need to start thinking with the big head.
[QUOTE=RocketDork;2613010]10 minute massage and you give 60 for a tip! Amazing! Rocket Dork.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RocketDork;2613010]10 minute massage and you give 60 for a tip! Amazing! Rocket Dork.[/QUOTE]Yeah when you think below the waist you make bad choices. After doing this for 15 years you still do that. Who hasn't. Best choice would have been to walk. Life goes on and you keep hunting.
Anybody know where the previous crew at 401 york went to? Ownership changed hands there about 3-4 months ago. They aren't helpful when asking where the mt's went and I'd really like to see one who gave an excellent, legit massage. Help is appreciated, pm if you must. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Sjohns;2615910]Anybody know where the previous crew at 401 york went to? Ownership changed hands there about 3-4 months ago. They aren't helpful when asking where the mt's went and I'd really like to see one who gave an excellent, legit massage. Help is appreciated, pm if you must. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Scattered about. Let you know when they land somewhere permanent.
Think one went to Mongolia in Europe.
Good one Joe! Hope all is well.
Bob.
[QUOTE=AvgJoe;2615927]Scattered about. Let you know when they land somewhere permanent.
Think one went to Mongolia in Europe.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bob521;2616241]Good one Joe! Hope all is well.
Bob.[/QUOTE]Yeah, hilarious.
[QUOTE=Bob521;2616241]Good one Joe! Hope all is well.
Bob.[/QUOTE]Couldn't resist Bob. Haha. Things are great and thank-you for asking. Hope things are well with you also.
Sjohns, I will ask someone and PM you if I find out.