[QUOTE=Raider1206;2419469]Ok thanks for the info just wanted to make sure I wasn't the only dumb ass paying while everyone else is on for free.[/QUOTE]I got a membership on SA and SD4M.
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[QUOTE=Raider1206;2419469]Ok thanks for the info just wanted to make sure I wasn't the only dumb ass paying while everyone else is on for free.[/QUOTE]I got a membership on SA and SD4M.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2418232]Ok. Here are my 5 Steps in an easy to read format. Happy hunting.
I will update it from time to time if I get a better approach or find any typos.
[URL]http://coach4ula.wix.com/fivesteps[/URL][/QUOTE]Great info! Marked! Thanks for sharing!
[QUOTE=OneOfTheBest;2420082]Unless the super young ladies you seek, have daddy issues and or very insecure. I don't see them needing some sort of emotional support from someone that could be their grandfather.
If you approach a girl on these sites like a trick for the most part you will be treated as such. That's why I never understood if you have a low budget why not stick to BP and CL trolling for "nps" for less footwork and drama? Not everyone can be a predator like Hollywoodguy and get these ghettobirds for pennies. If you're seeking better quality and other races, you're going to have to pay more than total of everyone's budget on this entire blog LOL.[/QUOTE]Daddy Issues. My favorite. Its role play or no play. The more twisted the better.
A Trick? - Most say I am a treat. LOL.
Gettobirds. Some are and some aren't. I have never judged pussy by its socioeconomic status.
Predator - "a person or group that ruthlessly exploits others" - I beg to differ. Every girl I fuck knows she can very easily get paid more.
Pennies? - a $ a day for 20-25 days a month ain't pennies. And comparable white or asian girls will be more for sure.
Pay More for Better Quality. You must mean in the facial looks dept. A true statement for black girls or any other race.
Because as far as bodies. I routinely fuck hot spinners. I won't fuck any girl below a 7 or 8 in body and most are closer to 9's.
But lets not forget about another important issue. Going bare with an NP that's exclusive. And overall mileage? Some BP girls are beautiful but take too many dicks to get me interested. And BTW emotional support and real chemistry are big hooks for a lot of these girls. Real big. About equal to the sugar.
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[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2418232]Ok. Here are my 5 Steps in an easy to read format. Happy hunting.
I will update it from time to time if I get a better approach or find any typos.
[URL]http://coach4ula.wix.com/fivesteps[/URL][/QUOTE]Thank you so much. I have been working on my delivery for a few months. I think CL has some potential. If I use a better flow. Thanks again.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2418232]Ok. Here are my 5 Steps in an easy to read format. Happy hunting.
I will update it from time to time if I get a better approach or find any typos.
[URL]http://coach4ula.wix.com/fivesteps[/URL][/QUOTE]Hollywood,
This page is SO good, I felt compelled to reply all the way from Raleigh, NC. Having this in place ensures the up-and-aspiring SDs have a 'play book' to success. I mean, the worse case scenario is you can gather enough information to make informed decisions on NOT moving forward with a potential SB.
You my friend win the gold star for such an informative page.
[QUOTE=Thresh;2423974]Hollywood,
This page is SO good, I felt compelled to reply all the way from Raleigh, NC. Having this in place ensures the up-and-aspiring SDs have a 'play book' to success. I mean, the worse case scenario is you can gather enough information to make informed decisions on NOT moving forward with a potential SB.
You my friend win the gold star for such an informative page.[/QUOTE]Please use it and then report back here. With pics if possible. And all the graphic details. Thanks.
Be very careful when you sign up sugardaddyforme site.
I found out that after I paid my first monthly fee of 55 dollars for them, 8 fraudulent charges were placed on my card in a row (on the same day).
Mind you that this is not my regular card but a prepaid Visa card that I made from Greendot for this specific purpose.
I charged 200 dollars for this and paid 55 dollars for monthly membership of sugardaddyforme and someone charged all the remaining balance with all kind of different scam charges (one is from Canada!
The investigator from Greendot company working with me is suspecting one of the employees of the company and I believe so too.
The Greendot credit card company is working on the issue but at the same time, I contacted sugardaddyforme and formally complained the issue.
Be very careful when you sign up on their site.
It looks like someone working for that company was stealing money from my card.
[QUOTE=Ddddan218;2427310]Be very careful when you sign up sugardaddyforme site.
I found out that after I paid my first monthly fee of 55 dollars for them, 8 fraudulent charges were placed on my card in a row (on the same day).
Mind you that this is not my regular card but a prepaid Visa card that I made from Greendot for this specific purpose.
I charged 200 dollars for this and paid 55 dollars for monthly membership of sugardaddyforme and someone charged all the remaining balance with all kind of different scam charges (one is from Canada!
The investigator from Greendot company working with me is suspecting one of the employees of the company and I believe so too.
The Greendot credit card company is working on the issue but at the same time, I contacted sugardaddyforme and formally complained the issue.
Be very careful when you sign up on their site.
It looks like someone working for that company was stealing money from my card.[/QUOTE]WOW. Thats the first time I have heard of that. Just a good reminder to always pay for everything with a card the has consumer protection on it. They have been known to bill after a cancellation for a month or two. But that has never happened to me either. But others have complained.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2420746]Daddy Issues. My favorite. Its role play or no play. The more twisted the better.
A Trick? - Most say I am a treat. LOL.
Gettobirds. Some are and some aren't. I have never judged pussy by its socioeconomic status.
Predator - "a person or group that ruthlessly exploits others" - I beg to differ. Every girl I fuck knows she can very easily get paid more.
Pennies? - a $ a day for 20-25 days a month ain't pennies. And comparable white or asian girls will be more for sure.
Pay More for Better Quality. You must mean in the facial looks dept. A true statement for black girls or any other race.
Because as far as bodies. I routinely fuck hot spinners. I won't fuck any girl below a 7 or 8 in body and most are closer to 9's.
But lets not forget about another important issue. Going bare with an NP that's exclusive. And overall mileage? Some BP girls are beautiful but take too many dicks to get me interested. And BTW emotional support and real chemistry are big hooks for a lot of these girls. Real big. About equal to the sugar.[/QUOTE]He is a hater, does not know what he is talking about.
[QUOTE=Masteful;2430256]He is a hater, does not know what he is talking about.[/QUOTE]I totally disagree with you. Did you see his previous post. This guy gets it done. We should all be so lucky to have his contacts. I would definitely hit that.
Quote Originally Posted by Masteful.
"HollywoodGuy, you are my Idol, when I grow up I want to be like you. As a matter of fact I have learned quite a lot from you. Thank for commenting. ".
Thanks. I try.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2430564]Quote Originally Posted by Masteful.
"HollywoodGuy, you are my Idol, when I grow up I want to be like you. As a matter of fact I have learned quite a lot from you. Thank for commenting. ".
Thanks. I try.[/QUOTE]So what are you saying? That he is two faced, or just bat shit crazy? Or perhaps the quote above was a feeble attempt at sarcasm?
[QUOTE=Marlowe;2430889]So what are you saying? That he is two faced, or just bat shit crazy? Or perhaps the quote above was a feeble attempt at sarcasm?[/QUOTE]IDK. I just thought it was funny.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2430900]IDK. I just thought it was funny.[/QUOTE]Me, too, but in case he was serious, I wanted to back up your creds. , as others have done for me on occasion.
[QUOTE=Marlowe;2431044]Me, too, but in case he was serious, I wanted to back up your creds. , as others have done for me on occasion.[/QUOTE]With over 2100 posts and overwhelming positive feedback regarding his posts, not to mention HG's willingness to help other Members, my Vegas money is on HollwoodGuy knowing what he is talking about.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2430223]Saw my barely legal little teen angel tonite, 5'5" and 105. In spite of many camera fumbles I still managed to get off a few shots. She definitely prefers back door action. Tonite it was about 50/50 front to back. A sweet little church girl that goes ass to mouth and back again. She wants daddy to be happy and very little more. Damage was $.[/QUOTE]Hey can I get info on that Black Teen girl. Just my type. Then again. Anyone who's a **** is my type. Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=IsopMan;2437969]Hey can I get info on that Black Teen girl. Just my type. Then again. Anyone who's a **** is my type. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I don't think this is the type of girl that is shared openly. I think the attraction of these sites and paying big bucks (the magnitude depends upon how much game you have, apparently) is that they see a minimum # of guys as opposed to your common street girl or BP CL poster.
[QUOTE=IsopMan;2437969]Hey can I get info on that Black Teen girl. Just my type. Then again. Anyone who's a **** is my type. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]She is exclusive to me for now. As are basically all my regular girls. And if they are not exclusive its usually because they have a same age BF and that's it. But she is all mine for now.
There is a non pro thread on this site that is usually reserved for fresh UTR girls. But this thread is for SB's. The step that usually comes before the UTR level. For every girl there is always a first time. Not all SB's I see are first timers but most are and even if they are not they believe in one SD at a time. As game is equal to money for these girls, passing along their info would amount to basically nothing.
Get a membership to SA or SD4M and start fishing.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2438441]She is exclusive to me for now. As are basically all my regular girls. And if they are not exclusive its usually because they have a same age BF and that's it. But she is all mine for now.[/QUOTE]As far as you know, LOL. Most of these girls have things going we can only imagine.
[QUOTE=Marlowe;2438892]As far as you know, LOL. Most of these girls have things going we can only imagine.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, I do have to agree with Marlowe. I had similar cases where I was led to believe that I was the only one, yet experience has taught me that once a girl becomes a "working girl", in a certain amount of time, less for some longer for others, they will start thinking about the money way more than what they have promised or arranged with you. Basically the truth is clear, and we should know it, we do pay for 1, 2 , 3 4 hours maybe the whole night, but after that they are going to look to make more money. That's a given and that is how they perceive the situation, since most of them realize that they won't be 20 forever. I made the mistake to catch feelings for one of the girls, just to find out that she was lying to me after a while (meaning maximum a month I was exclusive, maybe even less) and that she was indeed starting to see that she can make more money than what she's getting from me, while I'm not with her. She is now on BP etc, therefore, soon you have to be ready to accept that she will do it, if she's not doing it already. I've learned to realize that the word "honor" or sometimes even "respect" disappears from any woman's vocabulary, once they place the money on the top place of the podium.
I can only hope that HollywoodGuy is right, since in all honesty he seems like a person that offers respect, therefore he should also receive it.
Be safe and enjoy it while it lasts.
[QUOTE=Marlowe;2438892]As far as you know, LOL. Most of these girls have things going we can only imagine.[/QUOTE]Agreed 100% Unless you're with these chicks 24/7 you really don't know the full "hold" you have on them. Marlowe don't kill the mans dream.
Can we come up with a new term for this type of sport? This is not sugar dating.
[QUOTE=OneOfTheBest;2439188]Agreed 100% Unless you're with these chicks 24/7 you really don't know the full "hold" you have on them. Marlowe don't kill the mans dream.
Can we come up with a new term for this type of sport? This is not sugar dating.[/QUOTE]I agree every situation is unique. But to say none of these girls is loyal would be an untrue statement. Having dated some for months and even years at a time I usually have a pretty good idea of what's up one way or the other. I don't live in a dream world. LOL.
[QUOTE=CsJuventus;2439152]Unfortunately, I do have to agree with Marlowe. I had similar cases where I was led to believe that I was the only one, yet experience has taught me that once a girl becomes a "working girl", in a certain amount of time, less for some longer for others, they will start thinking about the money way more than what they have promised or arranged with you. Basically the truth is clear, and we should know it, we do pay for 1, 2 , 3 4 hours maybe the whole night, but after that they are going to look to make more money. That's a given and that is how they perceive the situation, since most of them realize that they won't be 20 forever. I made the mistake to catch feelings for one of the girls, just to find out that she was lying to me after a while (meaning maximum a month I was exclusive, maybe even less) and that she was indeed starting to see that she can make more money than what she's getting from me, while I'm not with her. She is now on BP etc, therefore, soon you have to be ready to accept that she will do it, if she's not doing it already. I've learned to realize that the word "honor" or sometimes even "respect" disappears from any woman's vocabulary, once they place the money on the top place of the podium.
I can only hope that HollywoodGuy is right, since in all honesty he seems like a person that offers respect, therefore he should also receive it.
Be safe and enjoy it while it lasts.[/QUOTE]I don't recall HG saying that he was exclusively seeing her. It works both ways. They have a term for that sort of relationship, its called monogamy, which isn't what most of us in this forum are about.
[QUOTE=Marlowe;2439666]I don't recall HG saying that he was exclusively seeing her. It works both ways. They have a term for that sort of relationship, its called monogamy, which isn't what most of us in this forum are about.[/QUOTE]I do get exclusivity from some girls and they all know I have multiple girls. Take it or leave it. We all do the best we can. But this beats any other form of companionship I can think of.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2439679]I do get exclusivity from some girls and they all know I have multiple girls. Take it or leave it. We all do the best we can. But this beats any other form of companionship I can think of.[/QUOTE]Agreed. You obviously have the means and the patience to do what you do. My preference is for street girls, so I can immediately see what I am paying for, and I just want the sex, no attachments. Everyone does what they want to do. The only impediment is LE and their stupid Human Trafficking farce.
[QUOTE=Marlowe;2439742]Agreed. You obviously have the means and the patience to do what you do. My preference is for street girls, so I can immediately see what I am paying for, and I just want the sex, no attachments. Everyone does what they want to do. The only impediment is LE and their stupid Human Trafficking farce.[/QUOTE]If I wasnt such a wuss I would go for some street girls. LE scares me. And I don't like condoms. The thing is, the street girls on the SD sites are so easy to spot. And many will work for a $. And when they are on the SD sites many times they will not have as many rules either, hoping to get a better quality guy. I used to fuck them regularly a few years ago. As soon as they would give me their number I would google it and voila. There would be their escort ad. Except I was paying a $ an hour for bare service. Now I avoid those girls. And most of the real hotties will ask for $$. But for an hour of GFE its probably not out of line. But still no instant gratification like what you are doing.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2439824]If I wasnt such a wuss I would go for some street girls. LE scares me. And I don't like condoms. The thing is, the street girls on the SD sites are so easy to spot. And many will work for a $. And when they are on the SD sites many times they will not have as many rules either, hoping to get a better quality guy. I used to fuck them regularly a few years ago. As soon as they would give me their number I would google it and voila. There would be their escort ad. Except I was paying a $ an hour for bare service. Now I avoid those girls. And most of the real hotties will ask for $$. But for an hour of GFE its probably not out of line. But still no instant gratification like what you are doing.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't consider you to be a wuss, just judicious. I am very careful, and pass up more opportunities than I take advantage of, but yes, the streets are a greater risk. I just can't afford $$ a shot at this time in my life.
[QUOTE=Marlowe;2439907]I wouldn't consider you to be a wuss, just judicious. I am very careful, and pass up more opportunities than I take advantage of, but yes, the streets are a greater risk. I just can't afford $$ a shot at this time in my life.[/QUOTE]Me neither.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2430223]Saw my barely legal little teen angel tonite, 5'5" and 105. In spite of many camera fumbles I still managed to get off a few shots. She definitely prefers back door action. Tonite it was about 50/50 front to back. A sweet little church girl that goes ass to mouth and back again. She wants daddy to be happy and very little more. Damage was $.[/QUOTE]And she is and HX level 5 with 2000 followers and 100 reviews in the LASER club.
[QUOTE=Hundred;2440360]And she is and HX level 5 with 2000 followers and 100 reviews in the LASER club.[/QUOTE]The last two days I saw a girl whose father is a minister. On the USA site 99% of all posts are for and about hardened working girls. About 1% are about girls that don't fall into that category. If you think that type of girl doesn't exist there is no convincing you that she does. Many are on the path to that ultimate destination. Some are not. Stereotypes exist for a reason, but there are always exceptions that don't fit the rule. If you look at the world with a madonna–wh**e complex you will miss the nuances that are available to partake in. It has taken me years to search out and identify these types. Many times I fail and settle for the best I can find at the moment. But this is not a dream world I have created to make myself feel better.
Having a horrible time with sd4 me. I canceled my 3 day trial after my first day. Or at least I thought I did. I got charged for the month, and even though I had sent multiple emails to site support I have not been responded to or my charge has been reversed. Has anybody else experience this?
[QUOTE=JahBless453;2447993]Having a horrible time with sd4 me. I canceled my 3 day trial after my first day. Or at least I thought I did. I got charged for the month, and even though I had sent multiple emails to site support I have not been responded to or my charge has been reversed. Has anybody else experience this?[/QUOTE]I occasionally read about other people having their cards charged after having cancelled with Sd4 Me. I've joined twice, canceled both near the very end of the three day grace period, and have not had any charges inadvertently show up. Might be luck of the draw, or is there a chance that some intentionally obscure box isn't being checked off? Only guessing as, again, I've had no trouble with them. I hope you are successful in getting it cleared up. Please let us know either way if you have time.
[QUOTE=JahBless453;2447993]Having a horrible time with sd4 me. I canceled my 3 day trial after my first day. Or at least I thought I did. I got charged for the month, and even though I had sent multiple emails to site support I have not been responded to or my charge has been reversed. Has anybody else experience this?[/QUOTE]A trial period will never get you pussy. I am always amazed that anyone cares about the monthly fee. You can not talk to anyone on the trial period. Since you got charged, why not go fuck some hot young wet needy pussy? For the cost of a CBJ from a SW you can now meet non pros that only want to pretend they are ho's for the right daddy. Step up dude. And then report back.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2448116]A trial period will never get you pussy. I am always amazed that anyone cares about the monthly fee. You can not talk to anyone on the trial period. Since you got charged, why not go fuck some hot young wet needy pussy? For the cost of a CBJ from a SW you can now meet non pros that only want to pretend they are ho's for the right daddy. Step up dude. And then report back.[/QUOTE]Well maybe for the cost of CFS. Still well worth it.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2448116]A trial period will never get you pussy. I am always amazed that anyone cares about the monthly fee. You can not talk to anyone on the trial period. Since you got charged, why not go fuck some hot young wet needy pussy? For the cost of a CBJ from a SW you can now meet non pros that only want to pretend they are ho's for the right daddy. Step up dude. And then report back.[/QUOTE]I already have a nonpro who I can call up and have a good time with, for the price of the monthly fee. I just wanted to see what its about. That's what a trial period is supposed to be right?
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2448116]A trial period will never get you pussy. I am always amazed that anyone cares about the monthly fee. You can not talk to anyone on the trial period. Since you got charged, why not go fuck some hot young wet needy pussy? For the cost of a CBJ from a SW you can now meet non pros that only want to pretend they are ho's for the right daddy. Step up dude. And then report back.[/QUOTE]I already have a nonpro who I can call up and have a good time with, for the price of the monthly fee. I just wanted to see what its about. That's what a trial period is supposed to be right?
[QUOTE=JahBless453;2448238]I already have a nonpro who I can call up and have a good time with, for the price of the monthly fee. I just wanted to see what its about. That's what a trial period is supposed to be right?[/QUOTE]You know how a free trial works on a dating site. They tease you in, then hold back a few main features hoping you will sign on. They are all the same.
This is some good pussy. Been hittin it regularly.