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[QUOTE=IrishGuy1977;3965776]That was very helpful. Hosting is not an issue for me. I am not local to Seattle. When there I always have a room on company dime. I use a burner and never my real name. Hotels I stay are big enough that of things went sideways I can always switch rooms with no issue. How do you make it clear you expect multiple shots and intimacy expected? I have tried to use several word tracts and the changes to my profile were rejected by Seeking. I used "let's spend a few hours getting to know each other at dinner or over drinks and head back to my place for some for some adult oriented fun". I have struggled working in the several rounds are expected.[/QUOTE]I use dessert as the sex euphemism. Dinner and then dessert at you place. Arrangement every time we enjoy dessert.

In my profile I explain that I have a really high sex drive and that I can go several times in sessions that can last hours.

When I contact them I ask them to please read my profile, many do not respond but he ones that do, understand what they are getting into. .

[QUOTE=IrishGuy1977;3965776]That was very helpful. Hosting is not an issue for me. I am not local to Seattle. When there I always have a room on company dime. I use a burner and never my real name. Hotels I stay are big enough that of things went sideways I can always switch rooms with no issue. How do you make it clear you expect multiple shots and intimacy expected? I have tried to use several word tracts and the changes to my profile were rejected by Seeking. I used "let's spend a few hours getting to know each other at dinner or over drinks and head back to my place for some for some adult oriented fun". I have struggled working in the several rounds are expected.[/QUOTE]Forget headlines and profiles, no one ever reads them anyway and even if they do, they're not going to see you based on either of those two things so keep things general and PC. In your case, something like. "Seeking tour guide. Travel to Seattle regularly for biz, looking for a tour guide to show me the sights. " You get the idea. The specifics can wait till you are chatting with them. This is a participation sport. If you're sitting on the sidelines waiting for a lady to contact you, you won't have much success. Just like at a bar, start working the room but I would recommend keeping the small talk to a minimum and get specific about what you are looking for without getting explicit. Euphemisms are good. I use the initial conversation as a high level filter to make sure we're on the same page generally. Most of the ladies on SA understand people are looking to hook up though a percentage can be naive. If it looks like a match, I'll see if they are willing to text or use kik or just about anything besides SA messaging so we can have a conversation without big brother SA listening. This is where I will get more specific about what I'm looking for. Obviously each person is different and therefore each conversation is different so some conversations were very specific upfront, others had to wait till we met for drinks.

[QUOTE=Twister100;3966368]Forget headlines and profiles, no one ever reads them anyway and even if they do, they're not going to see you based on either of those two things so keep things general and PC. In your case, something like. "Seeking tour guide. Travel to Seattle regularly for biz, looking for a tour guide to show me the sights. " You get the idea. The specifics can wait till you are chatting with them. This is a participation sport. If you're sitting on the sidelines waiting for a lady to contact you, you won't have much success. Just like at a bar, start working the room but I would recommend keeping the small talk to a minimum and get specific about what you are looking for without getting explicit. Euphemisms are good. I use the initial conversation as a high level filter to make sure we're on the same page generally. Most of the ladies on SA understand people are looking to hook up though a percentage can be naive. If it looks like a match, I'll see if they are willing to text or use kik or just about anything besides SA messaging so we can have a conversation without big brother SA listening. This is where I will get more specific about what I'm looking for. Obviously each person is different and therefore each conversation is different so some conversations were very specific upfront, others had to wait till we met for drinks.[/QUOTE]You must have a lot of time.

I can not go and explain each girl that respond what I want.

My profile screens for me.

I agree you can not sit from the sidelines. I do contact them and then ask them to read my profile. The ones that reply are usually game for several shots and several hours and pay per meet. That reduces tremendously the noise.

From there then yes I switch to text for specifics.

[QUOTE=Twister100;3966368]Forget headlines and profiles, no one ever reads them anyway and even if they do, they're not going to see you based on either of those two things so keep things general and PC. In your case, something like. "Seeking tour guide. Travel to Seattle regularly for biz, looking for a tour guide to show me the sights. " You get the idea. The specifics can wait till you are chatting with them. This is a participation sport. If you're sitting on the sidelines waiting for a lady to contact you, you won't have much success. Just like at a bar, start working the room but I would recommend keeping the small talk to a minimum and get specific about what you are looking for without getting explicit. Euphemisms are good. I use the initial conversation as a high level filter to make sure we're on the same page generally. Most of the ladies on SA understand people are looking to hook up though a percentage can be naive. If it looks like a match, I'll see if they are willing to text or use kik or just about anything besides SA messaging so we can have a conversation without big brother SA listening. This is where I will get more specific about what I'm looking for. Obviously each person is different and therefore each conversation is different so some conversations were very specific upfront, others had to wait till we met for drinks.[/QUOTE]All good advice Twister and DelToro. I am enjoying the hunt. Had a few successes already. Working on a few more. I can see from your advice where I can fine tune my appaorach. This is getting fun. But I would be lying if I said I did not miss the old days where I could read a few reviews to find out we were the same kind of freaky or lack there of if that is the case.

I was having so much success that I got carried away and used some no-no words. Suggestions for getting back on?

I'm actually thinking of it as an opportunity to upgrade my computing security overall. Secure VPN, Linux? Etc. Any tech gurus here have advice? Thanks!

[QUOTE=SeattleSilver1;3931562]She is in town this week, has a hotel room, and visits every couple months from LA. Looks very hot, but 500/ meet is not for me. [URL]https://www.seeking.com/messages/inbox/ef12d4d5-7457-473a-9076-b53c87041c65[/URL].[/QUOTE]Just an update. She quoted me 600 per meet.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ea84e0f5-28b8-8930-37a6-d7f9caf98685[/URL]

[QUOTE=WFM20;3967630]I was having so much success that I got carried away and used some no-no words. Suggestions for getting back on?

I'm actually thinking of it as an opportunity to upgrade my computing security overall. Secure VPN, Linux? Etc. Any tech gurus here have advice? Thanks![/QUOTE]Just create a new profile. I know one SB who got banned for asking ppm and she was promptly back on with an new profile in a week. I don't think they check IP addresses so just new name, new pics and I think you're good to go.

[QUOTE=Twister100;3967948]Just an update. She quoted me 600 per meet.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ea84e0f5-28b8-8930-37a6-d7f9caf98685[/URL][/QUOTE]And the price of gold has been pretty steady lately! SMH.

I'm pretty sure SA checks the IP address of new users to see if it was previously banned. Countless reports on USA in other cities where mongers got banned from SA, attempted to create another profile and were immediately banned again. MAC addresses might also be tracked when a profile is banned.

[QUOTE=Twister100;3967951]Just create a new profile. I know one SB who got banned for asking ppm and she was promptly back on with an new profile in a week. I don't think they check IP addresses so just new name, new pics and I think you're good to go.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Twister100;3967948]Just an update. She quoted me 600 per meet.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ea84e0f5-28b8-8930-37a6-d7f9caf98685[/URL][/QUOTE]At least she has some porn star credentials and be a fantasy filler. Question is does she go raw? Better than a lot of the GPS I have come across on SA lately are asking for more without the "star" power.

[QUOTE=HuksAlot;3968584]I'm pretty sure SA checks the IP address of new users to see if it was previously banned. Countless reports on USA in other cities where mongers got banned from SA, attempted to create another profile and were immediately banned again. MAC addresses might also be tracked when a profile is banned.[/QUOTE]Mac addresses are only revealed on a LAN. The MAC in the L2 header will change anytime your traffic goes through a layer 3 boundary, like your wifi router at home. Look up proxy arp.

[QUOTE=IrishGuy1977;3968878]At least she has some porn star credentials and be a fantasy filler. Question is does she go raw? Better than a lot of the GPS I have come across on SA lately are asking for more without the "star" power.[/QUOTE] She told me CFS.

[QUOTE=Twister100;3969508]She told me CFS.[/QUOTE]Well still cheaper than some of the a lot of the GPS I have come across and lately. At least she has some film credentials. I enjoyed her work.

A couple of scams.

SA privatebrittneyxo [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b148f835-43c6-4308-9055-e53e273c25b5[/URL] Wanted me to send her money to prove I was legit.

SA happy26 gurl [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e48510af-6195-4bd7-a881-987a44b2c7e5[/URL] Previously went by Hoops1470. Plan was to meet at the foodcourt at the mall then head to the hotel. Said she hadn't eaten all day so I got her dinner and we chatted. As she finished her meal, she asked if I had ever been scammed and I said I have been lucky so far. She then asked if I was paying in cash upfront, I said, I would show her the money and place it on the counter in the room and she could take it after we were done. She then said she had to use the restroom and she packed up including her leftovers. I was already suspicious because she had asked about being scammed and when she took her leftovers I figured she was going to bolt since who takes their food to the bathroom. I watched her head to the bathrooms then make a quick exit out the other entrance. Personally I thought she was pretty pathetic since it wouldn't have bothered me if she would have just said she wasn't interested and I hardly feel put out for getting "scammed" out of a $10 Panda Express meal but I figured I should give everyone else a heads up since I'm sure the reason she ran off was she didn't think she could do a grab and dash with my donation.

I managed to get away from this one with out losing a cent or any bruises, but it was close. Connect on SA, message a bit, text a bit, agree on an allowance, she says she can come to my place or I can go to hers. I opt for hers, though I was a bit skeptical since things were moving quickly, and because she was one of those TGTBT where she said she liked every single thing I enjoy, which I always take with a bit of skepticism.

Go to her room, she proceeds to get undressed (I hold back because I am not entirely comfortable with the situation), asks for the allowance, puts it in a drawer, and sends a text to someone. I assumed that was a signal, so I said I was not comfortable with the situation and her texting someone, and said I was going to leave. I took the allowance out of the drawer, and at the same time I heard the front door open. I asked who that was, and she said probably a roommate.

Before I can walk out the bedroom door, two guys burst in screaming at me and shoving me, and they proceeded to chase me out of the house. No serious effort to harm me, just some shoving and yelling clearly designed to get me to run out of the house without thinking of trying to get the allowance back. Unfortunately for them, I had already done that.

Lesson learned.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/a58018a9-c5ef-43d3-b706-504cd75bf447[/URL]

[QUOTE=Twister100;3974630]A couple of scams.

SA privatebrittneyxo [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b148f835-43c6-4308-9055-e53e273c25b5[/URL] Wanted me to send her money to prove I was legit.

SA happy26 gurl [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e48510af-6195-4bd7-a881-987a44b2c7e5[/URL] Previously went by Hoops1470. Plan was to meet at the foodcourt at the mall then head to the hotel. Said she hadn't eaten all day so I got her dinner and we chatted. As she finished her meal, she asked if I had ever been scammed and I said I have been lucky so far. She then asked if I was paying in cash upfront, I said, I would show her the money and place it on the counter in the room and she could take it after we were done. She then said she had to use the restroom and she packed up including her leftovers. I was already suspicious because she had asked about being scammed and when she took her leftovers I figured she was going to bolt since who takes their food to the bathroom. I watched her head to the bathrooms then make a quick exit out the other entrance. Personally I thought she was pretty pathetic since it wouldn't have bothered me if she would have just said she wasn't interested and I hardly feel put out for getting "scammed" out of a $10 Panda Express meal but I figured I should give everyone else a heads up since I'm sure the reason she ran off was she didn't think she could do a grab and dash with my donation.[/QUOTE]Another one:

SA miabae23 [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/2bbdddbd-6f4f-4b66-a379-0ebf17042207[/URL].

Pictures are of Sarita Natividad [URL]https://www.instagram.com/sarita_natividad/[/URL].

Communicated with this one. Basically said I understood if she used (playing the game) fake photos to be discrete. As long as she bore a resemblance I would still be interested. After several messages back and forth she agreed so send me a"real" photo. This is what I received with the explanation that she just did a breast cancer awareness walk. You guessed it same instagram model. I guess these ladies think we are stupid. If she has been reported before I apologize. Never got to discuss allowance. I am bored watching football so I will continue to play along and find out allowance request.

Seeking:

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/d8c5f40c-1966-4500-992e-ee2ebed1868f[/URL]

Instagram Briana Murillo:

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/muahbribri/?hl=en[/URL]

I have re-read several of my past posts. Apologies on spelling and grammar. I use a cell phone and the website is difficult to use on mobile.

Anybody got any info on this cutie? [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ea99d28a-af2e-4e75-b1e0-3ad2575c5c89[/URL].

Very close committing to a meeting. Thanks for any assistance.

[QUOTE=SeattleSilver1;3975132]I managed to get away from this one with out losing a cent or any bruises, but it was close. Connect on SA, message a bit, text a bit, agree on an allowance, she says she can come to my place or I can go to hers. I opt for hers, though I was a bit skeptical since things were moving quickly, and because she was one of those TGTBT where she said she liked every single thing I enjoy, which I always take with a bit of skepticism.

Go to her room, she proceeds to get undressed (I hold back because I am not entirely comfortable with the situation), asks for the allowance, puts it in a drawer, and sends a text to someone. I assumed that was a signal, so I said I was not comfortable with the situation and her texting someone, and said I was going to leave. I took the allowance out of the drawer, and at the same time I heard the front door open. I asked who that was, and she said probably a roommate.

Before I can walk out the bedroom door, two guys burst in screaming at me and shoving me, and they proceeded to chase me out of the house. No serious effort to harm me, just some shoving and yelling clearly designed to get me to run out of the house without thinking of trying to get the allowance back. Unfortunately for them, I had already done that.

Lesson learned.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/a58018a9-c5ef-43d3-b706-504cd75bf447[/URL][/QUOTE]Is there a way to to report her to SA? Help others not on this forum to avoid being robbed.

Already done! The problem is she may find a way to post a new profile.

[QUOTE=JonathanSmyth;3975747]Is there a way to to report her to SA? Help others not on this forum to avoid being robbed.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JonathanSmyth;3975747]Is there a way to to report her to SA? Help others not on this forum to avoid being robbed.[/QUOTE]Did a quick photo search. She turned up on adult look.

[URL]https://www.adultlook.com/p/2793418?skip_terms=1[/URL]

[QUOTE=SeattleSilver1;3975132]I managed to get away from this one with out losing a cent or any bruises, but it was close. Connect on SA, message a bit, text a bit, agree on an allowance, she says she can come to my place or I can go to hers. I opt for hers, though I was a bit skeptical since things were moving quickly, and because she was one of those TGTBT where she said she liked every single thing I enjoy, which I always take with a bit of skepticism.

Go to her room, she proceeds to get undressed (I hold back because I am not entirely comfortable with the situation), asks for the allowance, puts it in a drawer, and sends a text to someone. I assumed that was a signal, so I said I was not comfortable with the situation and her texting someone, and said I was going to leave. I took the allowance out of the drawer, and at the same time I heard the front door open. I asked who that was, and she said probably a roommate.

Before I can walk out the bedroom door, two guys burst in screaming at me and shoving me, and they proceeded to chase me out of the house. No serious effort to harm me, just some shoving and yelling clearly designed to get me to run out of the house without thinking of trying to get the allowance back. Unfortunately for them, I had already done that.

Lesson learned.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/a58018a9-c5ef-43d3-b706-504cd75bf447[/URL][/QUOTE]Sorry to hear about your experience. That's a frightening situation. Fortunately, besides your time and effort, you came out of it none the worse off. Perhaps this is a good reminder for us to host for initial meetings. I always like to control as much of the situation as possible. Personally, I've always kept money in a non-obvious location in the room and do not show them any funds until after I'm satisfied and finished. With all the delusional behavior from some of these girls, you have to retain control.

[QUOTE=Honjo;3975880]Sorry to hear about your experience. That's a frightening situation. Fortunately, besides your time and effort, you came out of it none the worse off. Perhaps this is a good reminder for us to host for initial meetings. I always like to control as much of the situation as possible. Personally, I've always kept money in a non-obvious location in the room and do not show them any funds until after I'm satisfied and finished. With all the delusional behavior from some of these girls, you have to retain control.[/QUOTE]To be fair, I'm sure just as many girls have been ripped-off as guys since this this biz is just ripe for crooks on both sides. An SB just told me her friend who is also an SB was given a bunch of fake bills after the fact.

I think there are some obvious things you can to minimize the risk.

Think with your big head. If your gut is telling you something isn't right, it probably isn't. I'm sure I've missed a few golden opportunities over the years but better safe than sorry.

I always ask to meet for coffee first so I can check her out and get a sense of who she is and I'll tell her if we hit it off, we'll schedule to meet at another time.

Do your homework. Image search, number search etc.

I always try to meet at a hotel even if she can host because of the exact situation SeattleSilver ran into. It might be expensive but it's not too bad if you look for deals and it's still less expensive than getting robbed.

I always bolt the door and put the safety latches on just in case someone tried to kick the door down.

I never pay upfront. If they ask about it, I'll put the allowance some place obvious and tell her she can take it after we're done.

I always am very careful with my personal information. Burner phone, hobby email, I keep my phone and wallet in non obvious locations in the room or a non obvious pocket that has a zipper so it's hard for them to quickly swipe it. If I really have qualms, I take a spare wallet with just my I'd in it.

I'm always on guard even with the ladies I've seen before.

[QUOTE=IrishGuy1977;3975788]Did a quick photo search. She turned up on adult look.

[URL]https://www.adultlook.com/p/2793418?skip_terms=1[/URL][/QUOTE]Did you report this to SA? I think they take reports of suspected escorts more seriously than fake pics or rip offs because it has potential ramifications on their biz.

[QUOTE=Twister100;3976303]Did you report this to SA? I think they take reports of suspected escorts more seriously than fake pics or rip offs because it has potential ramifications on their biz.[/QUOTE]I did. She blocked me immediately after, so I cannot see her profile, but I'm gathering you guys still can? So she has not been banned.

[QUOTE=SeattleSilver1;3975132]I managed to get away from this one with out losing a cent or any bruises, but it was close. Connect on SA, message a bit, text a bit, agree on an allowance, she says she can come to my place or I can go to hers. I opt for hers, though I was a bit skeptical since things were moving quickly, and because she was one of those TGTBT where she said she liked every single thing I enjoy, which I always take with a bit of skepticism.

Go to her room, she proceeds to get undressed (I hold back because I am not entirely comfortable with the situation), asks for the allowance, puts it in a drawer, and sends a text to someone. I assumed that was a signal, so I said I was not comfortable with the situation and her texting someone, and said I was going to leave. I took the allowance out of the drawer, and at the same time I heard the front door open. I asked who that was, and she said probably a roommate.[/QUOTE]She has multiple profiles. Here's another one: [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b15eec59-280d-4f85-92ea-a1e8245469af[/URL].

Same tattoos.

[QUOTE=Twister100;3976303]Did you report this to SA? I think they take reports of suspected escorts more seriously than fake pics or rip offs because it has potential ramifications on their biz.[/QUOTE]No I did not. I am not even sure how to do that. I will look into it. But it might be more impactful if the OP does. Research after the fact coupled with his experience.

[QUOTE=Athos56;3975722]Anybody got any info on this cutie? [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ea99d28a-af2e-4e75-b1e0-3ad2575c5c89[/URL].

Very close committing to a meeting. Thanks for any assistance.[/QUOTE]Told me 300 ppm, CFS. Never met her.

[QUOTE=IrishGuy1977;3964859]Does anyone have any experience with this one?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/06e10482-34e5-0052-a182-1e78061f8dd0[/URL]

As with most communication through SA was slow at first. But quickly sped by moving to text. She was first looking for $5 to $7 for an hour long meet. I almost spit out my drink. I have been communicating off and on for the better part of a week and number dropping and meet time increasing. Number does not give any hits. Pictures show up through handed search to a site called escort site called sipsap. But can't find any adds. Sent picture through text with date and requested note. Spidey senses tingle a little bit but little head keeps whispering. Rather than take an unnecessary risk I though I would ask.[/QUOTE]Bump. Would like to meet this one. Any info from the group?

[QUOTE=IrishGuy1977;3976380]Bump. Would like to meet this one. Any info from the group?[/QUOTE]Tried to, but she wants too much to meet, sorry.

[QUOTE=SeattleSilver1;3976316]I did. She blocked me immediately after, so I cannot see her profile, but I'm gathering you guys still can? So she has not been banned.[/QUOTE]As far as I can tell, she has not been banned. I did report her as a suspected escort with the ad link.

[QUOTE=GordBarq;3976317]She has multiple profiles. Here's another one: [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b15eec59-280d-4f85-92ea-a1e8245469af[/URL].

Same tattoos.[/QUOTE]I've hit it before, she's heavier on her bottom half than her pictures would lead you to believe. Guess she's running with a more desperate crowd these days.

[QUOTE=Twister100;3977029]As far as I can tell, she has not been banned. I did report her as a suspected escort with the ad link.[/QUOTE]I reported her as well. Just added a report for the second profile. She reached out to me with the second profile about a week ago. I never responded. Glad I didn't.

[QUOTE=SeattleSi;3977102]I've hit it before, she's heavier on her bottom half than her pictures would lead you to believe. Guess she's running with a more desperate crowd these days.[/QUOTE]That is definitely the same girl, and she is indeed much heavier on the bottom half than depicted, as well as now participating in a robbery scheme.

[QUOTE=Twister100;3976332]Told me 300 ppm, CFS. Never met her.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info, I'm still in the fence with her.

[QUOTE=Twister100;3977029]As far as I can tell, she has not been banned. I did report her as a suspected escort with the ad link.[/QUOTE]Update. It looks like both her profiles are down now.

[QUOTE=WFM20;3967630]I was having so much success that I got carried away and used some no-no words. Suggestions for getting back on?

I'm actually thinking of it as an opportunity to upgrade my computing security overall. Secure VPN, Linux? Etc. Any tech gurus here have advice? Thanks![/QUOTE]You can go way overkill with this. Ideal situation is renting a server with crypto and using the tor browser from that server. Probably this is unnecessary and you'd suffice with like TunnelBear or TigerVPN as a local vpn solution.

[QUOTE=SeattleSi;3977102]I've hit it before, she's heavier on her bottom half than her pictures would lead you to believe. Guess she's running with a more desperate crowd these days.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SeattleSilver1;3977424]That is definitely the same girl, and she is indeed much heavier on the bottom half than depicted, as well as now participating in a robbery scheme.[/QUOTE]Yup she is a MUCH larger girl than her pics shows. Luckily I had a decent appointment with her (in terms of attitude and service she all hole do what you want absolutely nothing off limits) . Her incall left a lot to be desired and her hyginene was not good, she was on her period and did not let me know. I did not repeat. I month later a friend of mine went to see her, inspite of me telling him that she was not worth it. She stood him up. Now she seems to have gone downhill to robbery. Not surprising. Some of her profiles on SA are now gone. Hopefully she stays gone.

Anyone one have any info to share?

I am chatting with her and thinking about meeting tonight any info would be awesome.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/cb13892e-bf26-46d4-9aa6-8d1bf889129d[/URL]

Beccawave22 [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/51521dda-7957-4aa4-a765-a0c131eeefee[/URL].

Picture is actual of Laura Lee [URL]https://www.instagram.com/larlarlee/?hl=en[/URL].