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[QUOTE=********;2204353]The 99 is in vancouver. It's why 99 which parallels I5. There are quite a few AMPs there. The address on back page come up. There are none in Portland worth visiting. The Vancouver ones are laying low ad the pd are making it harder on them. Just build the trust and you will be fine.[/QUOTE]Thanks bud. I thought Portland was a happening scene, will try Vancouver then.
Been to 60** SJ a few times. First time was with Amy. I asked for light massage and got lots of flirty feels and she let me touch her ass a bit but vigorously denied any other attempts at getting anything else. Second time I got Amy again and asked for medium massage and all I got was a great legit massage. Went back again today and got Sophie who is a pretty hot older lady. She game me light massage which included a few feels on me as well as her firmly placing my hands on her chest during the arm rub bit. But sadly that was it. I'm wondering if it just takes a bit of them getting to know me before anything will ever happen.
So, on that note, what is normal for tipping these legit massages? Is it good to tip a decent amount so they know you're willing to spend some cash or what? I'm kind of a nervous nellie and don't really have an idea of how to broach the subject of paying more to get more. I'd love some advice from you veterans.
I've been lurking quite a while and finally decided to register and post. I am new to AMP's but have tried it a couple times in the last few months. I thought I would share my recent experiences.
It took me some time to get up the nerve to go visit a place as I had never visited a professional of any kind nor had I ever had a professional full body massage. I browsed BP and read quite a bit on this forum before setting out.
I don't remember exactly how I came to the decision but I ended up at 84* for my first time trying it in mid July.
I had Mae as a provider. I received a pretty good massage with plenty of teasing. Like several others on the forum I got the "do it yourself" finish followed by a nice playful TS and dressing assistance.
It was not exactly what I was hoping for but for my very first experience it was enjoyable and Mae left me feeling that there was more available.
Since I don't have a lot of disposable income it was about 3 weeks until I was ready for a follow up visit. In between I learned from the forum that Mae was gone but I decided to visit 84* again.
I realized later that I probably should have asked to see Mae anyway so they would know I was a repeat customer but I didn't think of it at the time. This time I had Li as a provider. She was a bit older and not as cute as Mae but so am I.
The massage was not very good and had only the slightest amount of accidental brushing. No extras to finish and a basic but thorough TS followed by rather stern demands for more tip than I offered. #dissatisfied.
The last week in August I found myself in Anchorage on business. I decided to check the forum for there and found quite a bit of action. I quickly identified a location to visit. The provider was again a bit older and thicker than I was hoping for but.
The reviews on the place were good. The visit started with a nice TS which I took as a good sign. The massage was okay (a bit on the rough side) but after the flip I was offered mouth service for a price.
The price was a bit above my range but I got a nice HJ to finish.
Back in town last week I decided to make another visit. I tried to locate the place that Chokra mentioned but couldn't find it. I ended up back at 84* thinking that if I visit a few times I may become familiar to them and get a little better service.
It seems hard to build up any trust when the providers seem to change every couple weeks.
This time the provider was younger, slim, and cute (didn't get her name). The massage was very professional and totally legit with absolutely no extras. It was also totally amazing, I was very pleased with the best massage I have ever had (although.
I haven't had very many). TS was not even mentioned as an option and the bath robes were noticeably missing from the rooms. It seems they are really laying low and may have even brought in some real massage talent to boost the legitimacy.
I think I will try a new place next time but it feels like I will be starting completely over working on building trust and familiarity.
Sorry for the long post, I just wanted to share.
Went there Monday. Young and okay looking receptionist. Massage girls are older and rather ugly. Got a girl Liu Liu (or something like that. Late 40's. The massage itself was pretty good. Plenty of teasing. Flipped. She points out the direction then points at me. Meaning I do it myself. When I asked her to help out, she gestured that the boss has his eyes on every room. I didn't feel like tugging myself so nothing happened. When I offered. 2 for a tip, she starts demanding more. WTF. I said no and left the place. I don't think I'll repeat. To be fair this was similar to previous experience at other places. Oh well.
So I'm planning a return to the 60** SJ. I'm worried I've been tipping too much already for nothing. The reason I'm worried is because I just read posts where the masseuse is demanding more of a tip than you all are offering and I don't want to be part of that problem. I've give $20 as a tip for legit massages the last few times hoping that it will increase my odds of getting the service I'm looking for. Have I been doing too much? Am I a part of the problem? What do you veterans suggest?
[QUOTE=BeaverLove;2217236]Went there Monday. Young and okay looking receptionist. Massage girls are older and rather ugly. Got a girl Liu Liu (or something like that. Late 40's. The massage itself was pretty good. Plenty of teasing. Flipped. She points out the direction then points at me. Meaning I do it myself. When I asked her to help out, she gestured that the boss has his eyes on every room. I didn't feel like tugging myself so nothing happened. When I offered. 2 for a tip, she starts demanding more. WTF. I said no and left the place. I don't think I'll repeat. To be fair this was similar to previous experience at other places. Oh well.[/QUOTE]While you are never guaranteed to get exactly what you want, I believe AMPs should provide a minimum level of service. A chance to find out who your masseuse is before you are stuck in the room and no chance of turning back. You should not get shorted 10 minutes on an hour like they did to me here. That kind of thing.
A $20 tip for poor service is already way too much, and they are demanding more? Even a $10 tip in this situation is generous. Demanding more than that is outrageous. This place is no-go for a long time to come, there are much better options out there.
[QUOTE=VanWaGuy;2218510]So I'm planning a return to the 60** SJ. I'm worried I've been tipping too much already for nothing. The reason I'm worried is because I just read posts where the masseuse is demanding more of a tip than you all are offering and I don't want to be part of that problem. I've give $20 as a tip for legit massages the last few times hoping that it will increase my odds of getting the service I'm looking for. Have I been doing too much? Am I a part of the problem? What do you veterans suggest?[/QUOTE]$10 tip for legit massages. If you are paying more than that, they already see you as a "sucker" and will keep up the game of stringing you along forever.
Also remember, they will do anything to get you inside the door and keep you there. From ads with fake pictures, to making an appointment over the phone with your favorite girl, only to show up and find she is long gone, that kind of thing.
Guys need to demand better service. Show up and ask to see your masseuse before turning over any money. Be ready to bolt and move on to the next place if nothing is to your liking. I've gone to a couple places when confronted with an old ugly masseuse, said "just checking your prices" and start to head out the door, suddenly there is a younger girl available from the back room. No hard feelings, this is all part of the game.
I think they keep the better looking girls in reserve, and if you just show up out of the blue, you will get the ugliest one. They can always bring out the better looking girls for a more demanding customer, but why waste them on some yokel who shows up and is happy to take just anyone?
I've seen a few adds on BP for a couple "new" places. Anybody had any experience at the place on 164th or the new one on 99st? If these places are actually new I may go TOFT.
[QUOTE=Pepper71;2219096]I've seen a few adds on BP for a couple "new" places. Anybody had any experience at the place on 164th or the new one on 99st? If these places are actually new I may go TOFT.[/QUOTE]They are not new. Maybe new ownership?
[QUOTE=Justfo;2219753]They are not new. Maybe new ownership?[/QUOTE]A lot of places are continually having "Grand Openings" despite being open for years. Another sign of a scammy place to avoid.
I like the 84 at at on 99. At most places you can get what you want. If you know how to ask for it how to dress and how to hold the cash.
[QUOTE=********;2220394]I like the 84 at at on 99. At most places you can get what you want. If you know how to ask for it how to dress and how to hold the cash.[/QUOTE]Sent a pm to you.
I did not catch a name at 84. Wish I had. I seldom have time for pm's. You can gather the info by reading back thru the forums for a while. Sorry folks. Just busy.
[QUOTE=********;2220394]I like the 84 at at on 99. At most places you can get what you want. If you know how to ask for it how to dress and how to hold the cash.[/QUOTE]Wasn't sure how to ask or hold the cash, but I tried 84 on 99. Provider was Anna who is kind of old and not very pretty, but massage was great. Really great. Worth a decent tip for sure. After striking out all over the place I will definitely be going back.
Looks like Panda on MP is closed for good. Info I get is that LE wants to do away with any residential type shops.