Stupid Shit in NoVa

[QUOTE=FloorHump422;5183441]I feel like a lot of people have an "out of sight, out of mind" mentality, meaning that if they don't present symptoms, they won't get tested. I'd definitely be in favor of agencies requiring both mongers and providers to have a recent negative test before proceeding with any festivities. While I certainly appreciate the temperature check at the door, I don't know if it does much to actually reduce the likelihood of infection.[/QUOTE]I would be ok with temperature testing. It's better than nothing. Requiring a covid test would require you and your companion to reveal your identity as it would be easy to get a fake name test printed out. I think most companions haven't been socially isolated since the pandemic began and would have already been infected by now. They are young and many were probably asymptomatic and have some level of immunity by now. Early on it was more of a risk but these days I believe the girls are probably statistically safer.

[QUOTE=FloorHump422;5183441]I feel like a lot of people have an "out of sight, out of mind" mentality, meaning that if they don't present symptoms, they won't get tested. I'd definitely be in favor of agencies requiring both mongers and providers to have a recent negative test before proceeding with any festivities. While I certainly appreciate the temperature check at the door, I don't know if it does much to actually reduce the likelihood of infection.[/QUOTE]Most spread is probably asymptomatic spread so you won't even know when someone is sick. And you better hope you aren't among the 10-30% of COVID survivors (who are both old and young, previously healthy or not) who end up with debilitating long-term effects like brain fog, crippling constant fatigue, and exercise intolerance. Some people are going on disability because "long COVID" has completely incapacitated them. Ending up with "long COVID" is akin to catching HIV in that it is life altering, but there is no known treatment for long COVID, and nobody knows the prognosis. The pandemic has made this a very risky game. Be safe.

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/magazine/long-covid-nightmare.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=WillOckham;5183238]I worry that the community including me is ignoring the virus problem. Maybe I should stoop completely, though I have reduced my escort contacts and see no new women. I see only agency escorts, not independents.

When I visited Naomi at Club-Paradise, I showed her my corona virus tests. She replied that she was just tested and I believed her. This made me feel much better.

Question: Would you be more likely to patronize an agency that said its girls were "virus tested"?

Incidentally, I gave Naomi of Club-Paradise an 8/9, and I believe her when she says she was tested. She will be here until Monday. She's worth a visit.[/QUOTE]I have a friend who sees sugar babies only. At this stage of the pandemic, he is limiting himself to women who have already had and recovered from the virus--not those who are tying (or not trying) to avoid it.

[QUOTE=WillOckham;5183238]I worry that the community including me is ignoring the virus problem. Maybe I should stoop completely, though I have reduced my escort contacts and see no new women. I see only agency escorts, not independents.

When I visited Naomi at Club-Paradise, I showed her my corona virus tests. She replied that she was just tested and I believed her. This made me feel much better.

Question: Would you be more likely to patronize an agency that said its girls were "virus tested"?

Incidentally, I gave Naomi of Club-Paradise an 8/9, and I believe her when she says she was tested. She will be here until Monday. She's worth a visit.[/QUOTE]It's pretty fucking simple.

According to the CDC 93% of the people who have died are over the age of 55, of them 94% have had an average of 2. 9 of the life threatening comorbidities associate with covid.

[QUOTE]For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.9 additional conditions or causes per death.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm[/URL]

So, if you're not over 55 and don't have an average of 2. 9 of these, nor live with somebody who does:

Cancer.

Chronic kidney disease.

COPD (chronic obstructive pulmonary disease).

Down Syndrome.

Heart conditions, such as heart failure, coronary artery disease, or cardiomyopathies.

Immunocompromised state (weakened immune system) from solid organ transplant.

Obesity (body mass index BMI of 30 kg / m2 or higher but < 40 kg / m2).

Severe Obesity (BMI ≥ 40 kg / m2).

Pregnancy.

Sickle cell disease.

Smoking.

Type 2 diabetes mellitus.

Asthma (moderate-to-severe).

Cerebrovascular disease (affects blood vessels and blood supply to the brain).

Cystic fibrosis.

Hypertension or high blood pressure.

Immunocompromised state (weakened immune system) from blood or bone marrow transplant, immune deficiencies, HIV, use of corticosteroids, or use of other immune weakening medicines.

Neurologic conditions, such as dementia.

Liver disease.

Overweight (BMI 25 kg / m2, but < 30 kg / m2).

Pulmonary fibrosis (having damaged or scarred lung tissues).

Thalassemia (a type of blood disorder).

Type 1 diabetes mellitus.

And you feel like fucking somebody then go fuck them. If you get covid, that will suck but you will have a 99.74% chance of recovering. Stop treating it like it's ebola, the third world is starving behind this hysteria.

In any event, keep this shit off the review threads.

A2.

[QUOTE=Admin2;5183889]It's pretty fucking simple.[/QUOTE]If the CDC's mortality data is good enough for you to quote, then their assessment of the severity of the virus for everyone (not just those 55+ and those with comorbidities) should also be good enough for you.

[QUOTE=FloorHump422;5184613]If the CDC's mortality data is good enough for you to quote, then their assessment of the severity of the virus for everyone (not just those 55+ and those with comorbidities) should also be good enough for you.[/QUOTE]The point is, we aren't all going to die. If you want to go have some sexy time. Go get some sexy time. "Trusting" anyone who claims to test negative is about as safe as licking a big box store shopping cart handle. Any one of the multiple pee pees in a day could be 'rona positive so a negative test in the morning could have contact with a positive pee pee later in the day. Play it "safe" or keep your pee pee to yourself. It's that simple. When I have an itch, I'm willing to take the risk. As Lord Farquaad said, "that's a risk I'm willing to take. ".

[QUOTE=JmSuttr;5140126]If you saw it over 10 years ago, but have barely over a dozen posts, then what does that say about you?

Still waiting for a single substantive post documenting your alleged mongering expertise. So far, nuthin' but crickets.[/QUOTE]Yeah keep waiting, enjoy them crickets. My activity or a "substansive post" is not to be monitored. And I never called myself an expert. So just keep overpaying like the rest of the Nova mongers which you seem to be so arrogant about your donation habits. So from now on you get no breath. Kick rocks with flip flops.

[QUOTE=FloorHump422;5184613]If the CDC's mortality data is good enough for you to quote, then their assessment of the severity of the virus for everyone (not just those 55+ and those with comorbidities) should also be good enough for you.[/QUOTE]I can count, if the assessment of severity ignores their own data then no.

I'll say it again for the idiots, 93% of the people who died were over 55 and 94% of them had an average of 2. 9 life threatening illnesses or conditions before getting the virus. Those are the actual facts, they don't care what you think about them.

Here's another actual fact, over 10,000,000 ADDTIONAL people are going to starve to death this year as a direct result of the slowdown in the worlds economy because idiots like you refused to accept what those mortality stats say and demanded that countries close their borders and put the brakes on their economies. When you close a pizza joint in Cleveland they don't buy pizza sauce, when they don't buy pizza sauce the company who makes the lids for plastic containers the pizza sauce comes in close, then their employees lose their jobs, they are generally in countries that don't have a social welfare program so they are fucked, their kids are fucked and lots of them die.

This isn't 10,000,000 people, this is an ADDTIONAL 10,000,000 people, before corona we couldn't keep the first 10,000,000 from dying so don't give me the pollyanna response that "well aid organizations need to blah blah fucking blah" they are going to die so that you and millions like you can virtue signal and finger wag. "Just stay home" has been the biggest exercise of privilege in my lifetime.

[URL]https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/05/05/850470436/u-n-warns-number-of-people-starving-to-death-could-double-amid-pandemic[/URL]

You assholes act like the mitigation is free, I live in the third world, I'm seeing the people who are paying the cost for your bullshit on a regular basis. Please stop talking, every time you open your mouth a kid starves.

FYI that additional 10,000,000 was projected in May of last year. Since you are ignoring it and they are locking down again, even worse, it will probably be 20,000,000 extra.

[QUOTE=Admin2;5185424]I can count, if the assessment of severity ignores their own data then no.[/QUOTE]My point, which you missed by a mile, is that by validating the data but not the expertise of those who compiled the data, you are saying that you know better than the international coalition of medical experts that agree on the danger of Covid to all age groups. It's also disingenous to solely look at deaths as there are thousands of documented cases of Covid still affecting people even after "recovery". As to your point about the economy, if the government actually cared about the well-being of its people and paid them to stay home, there wouldn't be a need to choose between the economy or the health of people.

P.S. Why the fuck are you moderating this forum if you don't live in the USA?

[QUOTE=Admin2;5185424]I can count, if the assessment of severity ignores their own data then no.

I'll say it again for the idiots, 93% of the people who died were over 55 and 94% of them had an average of 2. 9 life threatening illnesses or conditions before getting the virus. Those are the actual facts, they don't care what you think about them.

Here's another actual fact, over 10,000,000 ADDTIONAL people are going to starve to death this year as a direct result of the slowdown in the worlds economy because idiots like you refused to accept what those mortality stats say and demanded that countries close their borders and put the brakes on their economies. When you close a pizza joint in Cleveland they don't buy pizza sauce, when they don't buy pizza sauce the company who makes the lids for plastic containers the pizza sauce comes in close, then their employees lose their jobs, they are generally in countries that don't have a social welfare program so they are fucked, their kids are fucked and lots of them die.

This isn't 10,000,000 people, this is an ADDTIONAL 10,000,000 people, before corona we couldn't keep the first 10,000,000 from dying so don't give me the pollyanna response that "well aid organizations need to blah blah fucking blah" they are going to die so that you and millions like you can virtue signal and finger wag. "Just stay home" has been the biggest exercise of privilege in my lifetime.

[URL]https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/05/05/850470436/u-n-warns-number-of-people-starving-to-death-could-double-amid-pandemic[/URL]

You assholes act like the mitigation is free, I live in the third world, I'm seeing the people who are paying the cost for your bullshit on a regular basis. Please stop talking, every time you open your mouth a kid starves.

FYI that additional 10,000,000 was projected in May of last year. Since you are ignoring it and they are locking down again, even worse, it will probably be 20,000,000 extra.[/QUOTE]This is a great assessment of the problem that the "stay home, stay safe" crowd doesn't want to face.

I could just imagine reposting this on Facebook, then when someone asks for the source, I could say "it's the moderator on my favorite prostitution discussion board. " LOL.

[QUOTE=FloorHump422;5186091]My point, which you missed by a mile, is that by validating the data but not the expertise of those who compiled the data, you are saying that you know better than the international coalition of medical experts that agree on the danger of Covid to all age groups. It's also disingenous to solely look at deaths as there are thousands of documented cases of Covid still affecting people even after "recovery". As to your point about the economy, if the government actually cared about the well-being of its people and paid them to stay home, there wouldn't be a need to choose between the economy or the health of people.

P.S. Why the fuck are you moderating this forum if you don't live in the USA?[/QUOTE]The long-term effects of COVID are going to be one of the greatest public health challenges the world has ever faced. Many current sufferers are becoming suicidal because they believe they are barely living and have been condemned to a fate worse than death. These people cannot walk a block or do a day of office work without then needing days of bedrest. And when the current numbers are pegging it at a 10-30% likelihood of getting debilitating long-term effects regardless of your age and comorbidities, it is quite scary to think about how sick the world will be in a few years.

There is currently no known cause or treatment. Countries around the world, including the USA, are opening up long-term COVID clinics to try and provide relief to these people. Some studies are suggesting that COVID leaves many with a lasting auto-immune disease. It does not care whether you're old or young, healthy or not. For many, they recover from the illness, and then the debilitating long-term effects strike months later. It is the luck of the draw.

This is not new. SARS left many of its victims with similar long-term effects. Many of them have yet to recover a decade and a half later.

[QUOTE=FloorHump422;5186091]My point, which you missed by a mile, is that by validating the data but not the expertise of those who compiled the data, you are saying that you know better than the international coalition of medical experts that agree on the danger of Covid to all age groups. It's also disingenous to solely look at deaths as there are thousands of documented cases of Covid still affecting people even after "recovery". As to your point about the economy, if the government actually cared about the well-being of its people and paid them to stay home, there wouldn't be a need to choose between the economy or the health of people.

P.S. Why the fuck are you moderating this forum if you don't live in the USA?[/QUOTE]It's been the same with you idiots since the beginning of this "if the government would just pay people to stay home" there is no fucking need to stay home, I'm going to say it again, 93% of the people who died were over 55,94% of them had 3 life threatening illnesses or conditions. The economy is the health of the people, the "economy" is how all goods and serves get distributed to and by the people, "the economy" is what makes countries bountiful or poor. The people that are starving are in the poor countries because hysterics like you are making politicians shut down there rich counties.

There has not been any international coalition of medical experts who have ever said that covid is a danger to all age groups, you are making that up. If any group has then they are IGNORING the empirical evidence as you are. You do not need to lock a country down for a flu that has a 99.74% overall recovery rate.

You don't mean to say there are thousands of documented cases of long term effects. Thousands you say. In a country of 330,000,000 people what percentage is thousands? There are always outliers. The mother of a dear friend of mine is suffering from dementia brought on by the flu pandemic in 2018. There have been 26 million confirmed cases of covid in the USA, if your thousands is 10,000 then that is 0. 038% of the total number of confirmed cases. 400,000,000 people forced into extreme poverty is 5% of the population of the entire fucking planet. Let me say that again, 5 fucking percent of the entire population of the planet. To put it into terms you might be able to understand, it's every single fucking person in the USA, ALL of The United Kingdom, everybody in Australia and 1/2 of Canada.

Just stop talking. Seriously, stop talking your ignorance is killing the people you continue to ignore.

It's pretty fucking obvious you don't understand globalization because you don't understand the way the economy works, I don't need to reside in the US to do this job, there is this thing called the internet.

[QUOTE=Deranged;5186351]The long-term effects of COVID are going to be one of the greatest public health challenges the world has ever faced.[/QUOTE]Those people are measured in the thousands, the greatest public health challenge is going to be figuring out how to take care of the HALF A BILLION PEOPLE who have been forced into extreme poverty due to your hysteria.

What part of that do you idiots not understand? If you have a disease that a few million people have died WITH and your solution is to destroy the lives of 5% of the worlds population you have the wrong solution. How many of that 400,000,000 are going to die of starvation, dysentery, exposure, lack of water, no access to medical care, crime or any of the 5,000 things that people who have no homes and are trying to live in less than 2 bucks a day have to deal with. 20,000,000? 40,000,000? Maybe 60,000,000?

Seriously what part of 400,000,000 people who used to be self sufficient and now can't feed themselves do you just not understand? I'm not saying covid is a hoax, it's obviously not, I'm saying the mitigation that has been used is obviously going to kill 10 or 100 X more people than covid and that's worse. Why do you guys simply refuse to face that? Is it because you can't? You just can't admit that you were unwilling to listen to the people who were predicting this tsunami of hunger in March and you ignored because "people before profits. " Is it really that simple?

The long term effects of covid aren't going to be shit when compared to getting the entire third world off the fucking ground again. 25 years of progress through globalization was undone in three months and you are doing it again. This shit is going to go on for decades.

[QUOTE=Admin2;5186521]Those people are measured in the thousands, the greatest public health challenge is going to be figuring out how to take care of the HALF A BILLION PEOPLE who have been forced into extreme poverty due to your hysteria.

What part of that do you idiots not understand? If you have a disease that a few million people have died WITH and your solution is to destroy the lives of 5% of the worlds population you have the wrong solution. How many of that 400,000,000 are going to die of starvation, dysentery, exposure, lack of water, no access to medical care, crime or any of the 5,000 things that people who have no homes and are trying to live in less than 2 bucks a day have to deal with. 20,000,000? 40,000,000? Maybe 60,000,000?

Seriously what part of 400,000,000 people who used to be self sufficient and now can't feed themselves do you just not understand? I'm not saying covid is a hoax, it's obviously not, I'm saying the mitigation that has been used is obviously going to kill 10 or 100 X more people than covid and that's worse. Why do you guys simply refuse to face that? Is it because you can't? You just can't admit that you were unwilling to listen to the people who were predicting this tsunami of hunger in March and you ignored because "people before profits. " Is it really that simple?

The long term effects of covid aren't going to be shit when compared to getting the entire third world off the fucking ground again. 25 years of progress through globalization was undone in three months and you are doing it again. This shit is going to go on for decades.[/QUOTE]Not thousands but actually millions already and likely to become tens of millions very soon if we cannot vaccinate faster.

[URL]https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20210201-time-to-team-up-and-tackle-long-covid-says-who-expert[/URL]

The NIH has allocated a billion dollars to research long-term effects? Why? Because our health care systems are already being inundated with long-term COVID patients. And we're only a year into this pandemic.

A little bit funny that you think the first world would prioritize developing countries in their decision making. Unfortunately, that's not the case. Look at vaccine distribution. Developing countries are being left for dead. Developed countries are only unfortunately interested in saving their own skins first.

If the developed countries can't get this under control, their health care systems will likely collapse in the near future. Long-term COVID patients will destroy nations' welfare finances and wreak havoc on economies due to not being able to work. There will be significant long-term global economic damage. And then the developing countries can say goodbye to capital inflow from those developed countries for good.

[QUOTE=Admin2;5186521]Those people are measured in the thousands, the greatest public health challenge is going to be figuring out how to take care of the HALF A BILLION PEOPLE who have been forced into extreme poverty due to your hysteria.[/QUOTE]Exactly. The long term effects we're going to have to deal with are the result of the damage done by cowardly morons freaking out and insisting on "mitigations" that do far more harm than good.

Every flu-like virus causes long term effects in a small number of people. Covid is not any different, but idiots want to LARP a pandemic. JFC, it's been a year.