Delaware Douchebaggery!

[QUOTE=WeatherMan2;5695149]The only good thing about shampoo is his age. He is in his mid 60's. His mongering career and all of his posting won't last forever. It is the best way to look at it if he gets on your nerves.[/QUOTE]You know this dude is a really SAD case! When I first came on these threads, I actually had some great info sharing and conversations with him. In fact, he's actually a pretty decent monger!

But alas, [B]this dude is gripped by a deep seated HATRED that he just can not shake![/B] It's too bad, dude could benefit from things IF he'd quit being a [U]hater![/U] Yes, I have tried working things out via PM with him, but he just can not get over his HATRED! It is really sad to have parts of your life dictated by HATRED!

But hey, I have seen this pattern before, dudes who are less developed in a certain skill get jealous or angry at another who has developed those skills and / or who shares skills and knowledge with others.

But dude, you are SO wrong on the age part and your other assumptions. LOL! What we can only hope for is that by the time I retire, you have matured into a place where: 1) You no longer carry HATRED around, 2) You recognize the value of these threads and contribute "how to" stuff for new mongers and 3) You develop and hone your skills.

But hey, in this "CANCEL CULTURE" it is frustrating to some that every message that responds on a board isn't [I]soft, nurturing and totally PC.[/I] Sad thing is that they let a "Style" or "delivery" to cloud the message and they ignore the message. [i]{YEAH! My "style" is a bit 'in your face'. but that doesn't mean the message is wrong, bad. Regardless or what my ankle biters think, just trying to share knowledge and help mongers improve skills and stay safe!}[/i] Where they could learn and grow, they eschew such because irritation or hatred takes over? Sad, weak minded. Look, every monger can learn something about the hobby each day. Days when I thought I knew it all are days when sh*t happens.

Now hopefully you aren't reading this, because you added me to your ignore list! That would be a good demonstration that you aren't at the level of your little buddy there and actually capable of change. Of course if you didn't block me, but if you want to work things out via PM, I'm all ears!

[QUOTE=Jthinas;5695808]I just don't understand how the moderators allow that kind of heat speech to be on here. I know others have gotten reprimanded for far less.

But his words show us the kind of person that he really is.

[blue]It's a fight thread douchebag.

A2[/blue][/QUOTE]I'm not saying I'm wishing for the guys number to be called tomorrow.

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5698467]You know this dude is a really SAD case! When I first came on these threads, I actually had some great info sharing and conversations with him. In fact, he's actually a pretty decent monger!
[/QUOTE]So actually I knew about the ignore function but you can still see if someone makes a post and they give you the option if you want to see it. I think you were to hard so I stepped up and said something. You say others "can't help themselves" in trying to refrain from responding to you. Well I have news for you, you also have trouble refraining LOL. I'll admit I do as well. You are a decent monger. Every now and then you will put out some helpful info. We have already gone over the jealousy accusations in the past. I don't have much else to say here.

[QUOTE=WeatherMan2;5699594]So actually I knew about the ignore function but you can still see if someone makes a post and they give you the option if you want to see it. I think you were to hard so I stepped up and said something. You say others "can't help themselves" in trying to refrain from responding to you. Well I have news for you, you also have trouble refraining LOL. I'll admit I do as well. You are a decent monger. Every now and then you will put out some helpful info. We have already gone over the jealousy accusations in the past. I don't have much else to say here.[/QUOTE]Being too hard / harsh on jthinas I meant to say.

[QUOTE=JRichard;5748860]I did ask, the question left my lips before the door the even closed.

Her response was "he is a friend and harmless".

So that is the answer, period, plain and simple.

Does one believe her? Or does one follow you own recommendations here time after time, and scolding's about following "The Rules".

Just wondering?[/QUOTE]I'm a bit surprised at this reply given all of your background sleuthing skills, which are considerable and enviable. Once one has the girl face-to-face, it's high time to ask as many questions as needed to feel comfortable with the situation or book out of there. Ask enough questions to understand what is the situation, such that one doesn't walk away with "concerns" or the need to speculate. Seems like a perfect time to put those sleuthing skills in action when talking to or dating the girl? Apparently one didn't ask enough questions to trust her veracity?

Point is I ASKED her when I dated her early on. Asked more than one question, probed her reasons and thinking. Over several dates, evaluated her character. For me, my evaluation was that while not ideal, she was exercising caution, due diligence and safety measures. My estimation of her left me comfortable with her even though I generally don't like the situation.

But since I have talked to a large number of girls in the hobby, I am keenly aware that there are MANY numbnuts out there that are disrespectful, rude, violent or dangerous. I don't begrudge any woman taking precautions against those types! Perhaps the wide dissemination of the 'word" that she has security around will ward off those dangerous guys?

But I did my "due diligence" before I came to any conclusions. I satisfied myself of her and her situation. I dated her way back in the beginning when her 'security' wasn't around or wasn't particularly obvious. But from what she told me, in my estimation, there is a need for her to have security. The fact that she has obvious security these days, suggests she's encountered many more douchebags and thus the increased security presence.

Look rules are there to be followed and be protective when one is ignorant or unaware. While, one will never know everything and should always be learning about the hobby, one should develop some level of comfort with their Spidey Senses. Oh sure Spidey Senses get honed and sharpened with time and experience. Those that don't have the time and experience will have a lower tolerance on their Spidey Senses trigger, and yeah, those dudes are right to trust the Senses and walk away. Problem is when one ignores the senses by thinking with the little head.

Everyone is free to make their own evaluation of a situation. Some will do that based on speculation, fear or ignorance. Others will trust their Spidey Sense or inquire at length or other means. Nothing wrong with being overly cautious if that is one's MO. But trust has to be in the equation somewhere and if one doubts a girl's veracity, then one could avoid her.

Don't recall anyone reporting that they got ripped off by Mama G or had a bad encounter with the dudes she has around for security purposes? That could be the bottom line?

[QUOTE=JRichard;5748860]

Does one believe her? Or does one follow you own recommendations here time after time, and scolding's about following "The Rules".

Just wondering?[/QUOTE]And this part is just you being a baiting douchebag. If you don't know the answer, no one should follow your advice / posts.

You're a knowledgeable guy, and can be a good contributor here. But I guess you like being a douche and stiring up sh*t.

Kinda sad, guess I'll add you to the 'haters" list! Sigh.

You wanna retract that? I'm all ears.

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5749011]I'm a bit surprised at this reply given all of your background sleuthing skills, which are considerable and enviable. Once one has the girl face-to-face, it's high time to ask as many questions as needed to feel comfortable with the situation or book out of there. Ask enough questions to understand what is the situation, such that one doesn't walk away with "concerns" or the need to speculate. Seems like a perfect time to put those sleuthing skills in action when talking to or dating the girl? Apparently one didn't ask enough questions to trust her veracity?

Point is I ASKED her when I dated her early on. Asked more than one question, probed her reasons and thinking. Over several dates, evaluated her character. For me, my evaluation was that while not ideal, she was exercising caution, due diligence and safety measures. My estimation of her left me comfortable with her even though I generally don't like the situation.

But since I have talked to a large number of girls in the hobby, I am keenly aware that there are MANY numbnuts out there that are disrespectful, rude, violent or dangerous. I don't begrudge any woman taking precautions against those types! Perhaps the wide dissemination of the 'word" that she has security around will ward off those dangerous guys?

But I did my "due diligence" before I came to any conclusions. I satisfied myself of her and her situation. I dated her way back in the beginning when her 'security' wasn't around or wasn't particularly obvious. But from what she told me, in my estimation, there is a need for her to have security. The fact that she has obvious security these days, suggests she's encountered many more douchebags and thus the increased security presence.

Look rules are there to be followed and be protective when one is ignorant or unaware. While, one will never know everything and should always be learning about the hobby, one should develop some level of comfort with their Spidey Senses. Oh sure Spidey Senses get honed and sharpened with time and experience. Those that don't have the time and experience will have a lower tolerance on their Spidey Senses trigger, and yeah, those dudes are right to trust the Senses and walk away. Problem is when one ignores the senses by thinking with the little head.

Everyone is free to make their own evaluation of a situation. Some will do that based on speculation, fear or ignorance. Others will trust their Spidey Sense or inquire at length or other means. Nothing wrong with being overly cautious if that is one's MO. But trust has to be in the equation somewhere and if one doubts a girl's veracity, then one could avoid her.

Don't recall anyone reporting that they got ripped off by Mama G or had a bad encounter with the dudes she has around for security purposes? That could be the bottom line?[/QUOTE]So, if I may ask, having already seen her, but knowing now that there is security would you go again??

[QUOTE=PPJones;5749102]So, if I may ask, having already seen her, but knowing now that there is security would you go again??[/QUOTE]Given what I know, the security would not bother me in this situation. YMMV.

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5749196]Given what I know, the security would not bother me in this situation. YMMV.[/QUOTE]Good to know, sir.

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5749028]And this part is just you being a baiting douchebag. If you don't know the answer, no one should follow your advice / posts.

You're a knowledgeable guy, and can be a good contributor here. But I guess you like being a douche and stiring up sh*t.

Kinda sad, guess I'll add you to the 'haters" list! Sigh.

You wanna retract that? I'm all ears.[/QUOTE]No, not at all:

The facts are:

1. She Is 50+, and round and can lose some weight.

2. She is Not a hot, 20 something model, commanding hundreds of dollars per session, and potential to have large sums of cash on hand to warrant a Security Detail comprised of at least two different individuals and a high profile for robbery.

3. Again, 50+ and overweight, and stretching an ethnicity claim in her advertising. The profile and body type that every psycho is looking for.

Come on.

I am by no means saying or downplaying the fact that something can't happen from a potential customer to any figure, age or ethnicity (true or not so true) but the chances for her are slim. Slim she is not and surely seems like she is capable of handling herself, by not being drugged out, her physical size and street smarts.

I stand by my observations and statements. The bottom line is when you know others are involved, the risks elevate. While you can only state your opinion of her and her explanation to you. Both you and I don't know the gentlemen, their background or what actions could be, or what motivates them. Most crimes are opportunity based. These two guys already know what is going on and figure that any John would not want to make a report if something did happen.

It comes down to Risk vs Rewards. (1 + 3 = 4 and that is 2 too many).

Happy Mongering My Friend.

[QUOTE=JRichard;5749414]No, not at all:

The facts are:

1. She Is 50+, and round and can lose some weight.

2. She is Not a hot, 20 something model, commanding hundreds of dollars per session, and potential to have large sums of cash on hand to warrant a Security Detail comprised of at least two different individuals and a high profile for robbery.

3. Again, 50+ and overweight, and stretching an ethnicity claim in her advertising. The profile and body type that every psycho is looking for.

Come on.

I am by no means saying or downplaying the fact that something can't happen from a potential customer to any figure, age or ethnicity (true or not so true) but the chances for her are slim. Slim she is not and surely seems like she is capable of handling herself, by not being drugged out, her physical size and street smarts.

I stand by my observations and statements. The bottom line is when you know others are involved, the risks elevate. While you can only state your opinion of her and her explanation to you. Both you and I don't know the gentlemen, their background or what actions could be, or what motivates them. Most crimes are opportunity based. These two guys already know what is going on and figure that any John would not want to make a report if something did happen.

It comes down to Risk vs Rewards. (1 + 3 = 4 and that is 2 too many).

Happy Mongering My Friend.[/QUOTE]LOL! Now you are talking out of both sides of your mouth! In your original post and the follow up one you talked about the concerns of her having "security" - the dude (s) who are around her room. Now you jump in with she's fat, old and stretching her ethnicity! So which is it? If your objections were because of her looks, then you should have stated that in the beginning rather than casting aspersion on her use of "security!" If you went to see her and didn't know these facts then one didn't read reviews here.

The way you stated it wasn't straight forward, but laced with innuendo, supposition, inference. But hey, that's typical of your posts. Would be more helpful to others if you would just state what you mean rather than walking around the edges or making inferences or leaving the reader to fill-in-the blanks. Hey, Just saying.

But I find your down playing of her need for security to be disingenuous! I talked to her at length and she has had bad experiences. Just because a girl isn't a beauty queen doesn't discount her need for security! Jeez, the fact that you state something like that is insulting to the girls and about as naive a statement as I have seen in ages! All girls in the game have to deal with idiots and guys who are dangerous. Doesn't matter if they are 10's or 4's. So if a girl is using "security" it is a monger's job to evaluate the risk of that and employ risk mitigation techniques. But to state she doesn't need security because she's fat, old or half Asian or wouldn't attract idiots or whackos is just plain ignorant.

Yes, if others are involved the risks escalate, true. But [B] mongering is about Risk Management,[/B] not just 'risk vs reward!' So what I did when she told me she had security was to probe into that, understand her character and test her veracity. That is how I made my evaluation. You appear to be just working off of "the rules" without, taking extra steps to mitigate or evaluate risk. You just saw something and jumped to conclusions without taking the risk management steps of probing deeper. Hey, that's your choice. No one has to do any DD if they don't want, but smearing someone based on supposition, when one has the skills to dig deeper and do better is really disappointing.

Then ASSUMING or implying that dudes are getting ripped off by Mama G's security is weak minded and an insult to the readers here! You've been around long enough to know that most if not all of the bad reports are from rip-off situations. Why would her "security" rip-off guys and risk notice getting posted and killing her business. That would be killing the Golden Goose. There haven't been any reports of bad stuff associated with her security. You owe her an apology for your inferences and speculation.

So you can state your opinion of her, just wanted others to know that is barren of any of the good DD that you typically do. Yours is just an opinion based on an observation, speculation and supposition. Whereas, my statements are based on detailed DD. Anyone can choose which "opinion" they want to follow. I just think it makes sense to engage with the girl about her security and understand where she is coming from, who the dudes are and what are the risks they pose in that situation. Short of that, one isn't doing their job as a monger at a level that you surely are capable. I mean you saw the dudes and have all of this speculation, yet you continued with your date with her? Sigh.

It's not just 'risk vs reward,' mongering successfully LT is about RISK MANAGEMENT! Sometimes youse gotta do the work!

So I was out Monday night on the stroll.

Seen a Hispanic chick with an ass as wide as the state of DE, thick thighs, some kind b&W patterned tights, on top part of Lanc. I didn't stop in the middle of the street and call her over, because I had just passed LE. So I gave her the look and turned on the next street where I could see her and waved her off when I could see her attributes were too abundant.

Then I seen Bella-Jamie at the 711 at Greenhill, but a dude was sitting in a p / you truck facing LA and she seemed to be wandering back & forth within 10-yards of the truck. Given we are in a "improve the quality of life" phase she was a Definite pass. Oh, not to mention the fact that one needs to watch her closely as, did they scoop the accommodating Bella or the play games & try a rip-off Bella? Passed on her several times in the last few months.

On another topic: I noted in several passes on Lanc that there were often several cars, trucks, SUVs parked facing the street with dudes sitting and watching. Hmmm.

Slid over to MDA and seen a girl sitting outside the Horizon House. I did a loop around WG and stopped in the front facing that girl to see if she'd wander over. Nope, she never moved. THEN all of a sudden there is Jody C standing next to driver's window motioning for me to roll the window down. I waved her off since she is a definite "no fly" list girl.

Then I seen another girl coming down the hill off MDA, but was a bit concerned as too much wealth in one spot all of a sudden. So I took a lap around the block and came up the other side of the p-lot. She wandered in front of me so I could see who it was, but didn't recognize her, so took a pass and wandered on.

Seen nothing in The Box but 3 LE parked up in a lot they usually hang out in. Later seen one sitting on Tatnall and a 5th one roaming the area. So got out of there.

Hit the Lanc stroll again and saw a girl coming down LA, pulled in the lot next to the clinic where the bar was and waited for her to walk in front of me so I could get a look at her. Cute enough girl. So scooped her up. She told me her name was Krystal! WTF! Dated her before and since then have heard terrible stories from at least 3 different girls. So tossed her the $5 'no thanks' money and wandered on.

Right after that seen another girl and scooped her! Turns out it was Sheyanne! OMFG, one of the Holy Grails! She remembered me and we had a great date!

All in all from starting off to the stroll, making stroll loops, trying various areas I had over 3-hours into things before finding the Holy Grail. WTF- This fucking mongering TAKES TIME!

I mean I guess I coulda done it in 15-minutes if I wanted "first available" and tapped a fat Hispanic chick. Could have scoped a girl in front of potential LE or nefarious dudes. Have heard from a few that that girl has been working with LE. But in all fairness, have not gotten the requisite confirmations to satisfy me of the veracity. Also guess I coulda scooped and put my life at risk with a 'no fly' girl. But thankfully, info here and recon from the street saved me from that. But if I was unaware, I coulda made a few more laps in The Box trying for girls that were probably around and in doing so attracted the attention of LE. Nice to know where to look or how to look on a recon pass. Also didn't have to C&are the girl, coulda gotten a "meh" date, experienced drama or had things missing later. But, no! I mean, I prolly should have scooped the first thing seen and trusted the girl would 'do her job' because she is, after all, a professional.

But reflecting on how "easy" it was to scoop a Holy Grail, reminds me that 'easy' comes from time, experience, hard work and learning.

. . Well race may factor in as well, let's be honest.

Several years ago I engaged with TLL (shortened screen name) and we engaged in a conversation.

He provided a UTR contact. She Had and still Has NO social media presence that neither of us know about.

I establish a connection and she drifts away for several reasons for both of us, personal reasons as well as preferences.

Fast Forward. We Both loose contact with her for a various number of reasons, example: preferences, options and the (go to) COVID.

I hunt her down, and she is keeping / maintaining a UTR profile.

I share the details with TLL. Why? He was the lead. He provided the Details that made me "Happy" on many occasions. Not to mention she was inexpensive.

We share and openly discuss details.

TLL has also provided other details on others needing Assistance to me.

He has provided More to me than Me to Him. With that said, I owe him. THANK YOU!

The point is there is give and take. He gave, I gave, I have a smile with his info. Did he use mine? I don't know. I feel I have more take-aways and owe him.

The point is.

Use the board Share. Share Openly. Reciprocate - Give and Receive.

Too many are Takers and do not have Transparency.

The Negative Comments impact everyone.

Well, It's Friday and the "T" has already slurred my speech.

So how much do youse guys spend on Mongering each month? [I]There is no right answer, everyone comes to the hobby from a different place! Just curious what others do.[/I].

Are you an opportunistic monger, toss $40 to a SW way on occasion when the pressure builds up and you have the funds in your pocket?

Are you a dude who generally plans on an AMP visit or two each month?

Do you wait for a bonus check and then use that to go hit a few escorts?

Or are you a careful planner and budgeter that sets aside funds each month for the hobby?

So how much each month? $80? $200? $360? $500? Anyone spending $1,000, $2,000 or more on SBs?

Just curious.

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5779274]So how much do youse guys spend on Mongering each month? [I]There is no right answer, everyone comes to the hobby from a different place! Just curious what others do.[/I].

Are you an opportunistic monger, toss $40 to a SW way on occasion when the pressure builds up and you have the funds in your pocket?

Are you a dude who generally plans on an AMP visit or two each month?

Do you wait for a bonus check and then use that to go hit a few escorts?

Or are you a careful planner and budgeter that sets aside funds each month for the hobby?

So how much each month? $80? $200? $360? $500? Anyone spending $1,000, $2,000 or more on SBs?

Just curious.[/QUOTE]When I was getting overtime, I'd usually drop $100-$180 a week, but now without overtime, I'm maybe $200-250 a month.