Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=Joeblow300;4165473]So I, as I am sure quite a few on here, have been watching the fallout from the Indian River / Martin county busts closely. Here are my thoughts:

First. I appreciate how BO collects the money up front. I have the opportunity to always say I merely paid for a massage and never gave any more.

Second. It seems the Orlando area connection (for now) is that the mamasan moved to a spa up here. It looks like all the video surveillance happened down south. Unless they just haven't pulled the trigger on an Orlando investigation yet.

Third. I am staying out of the Asian massage parlors for now. I want no part of a huge, very public frocking. The AMP's appeal to me in the past was the safety. That's gone. I think the fact that they snagged a few very high profile John's is going to have other sheriffs salavating to do the same all over.[/QUOTE]I think our ship has sailed. It's only a matter of time until GG, BO, WB and the others are history. While human trafficking is an abomination, it's also disturbing that you can enter a business with an expectation of privacy in a massage room and be the subject of a court ordered video. Embarrassing at the very least. Is this really even constitutional? Wow. I'm retiring from the AMP scene.

Got a great massage this morning. Afterward I asked her if business was impacted with all of the news. She said some customers are acting nervous. Told me one customer she had yesterday was clearly nervous. Afterwards as he was dressing he kept asking to take the condom out with him thinking she was somehow with LEO and not wanting to leave evidence behind. She said no but he kept reaching for it. She held on to it and offered to let him follow her to the back to see her dispose of it. Then he got very excited thinking she is trying to lure him in back to who knows what. He panics. Wearing only his underwear and socks he grabs his pants, shirt and shoes and runs down the hallway and out the front door into the parking lot to his car.

I'm both speechless at the stupidity and laughing my ass off at what that must have looked like. Hoping nobody on this Board is that out of their mind. If you're worried abstain. Behavior like that not only endangers yourself but your masseuse as well.

If you feel comfortable, get out and support the ladies you like. If business is slow they will absolutely appreciate your visit.

Happy, and safe, hunting.

[QUOTE=FrankCuba;4163860]FYI from the best I can determine, the AMPs involved in this latest sting are:

1. East Spa, Gene Street, Winter Park.

2. Rainbow Spa, 1809-2 East Colonial Drive, Orlando.

3. East Spa, Vero Beach.

4. AA Massage, Sebastian.

5. East Sea Spa, Sebastian (unincorporated Indian River County).

6. Orchids of Siam. Jupiter.

7. Bridge Day Spa, Hobe Sound.

8. Sequoia Apple Day Spa, Hobe Sound
9. Therapy Spa, Stuart
10. Cove Day Spa, Stuart

Another thing mentioned was that all Spas involved were opened in the last 3 years.

I hope this relieves some stress for some of you.[/QUOTE]I haven't done any research on this, but obviously you have. How / where did you find this list?

[QUOTE=McWired;4165569]I haven't done any research on this, but obviously you have. How / where did you find this list?[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.tcpalm.com/story/news/crime/indian-river-county/2019/02/21/human-trafficking-florida-massage-parlors-vero-beach-sebastian/2920354002/[/URL]

Have any of the arrested talked on any of the forums? I thought there would be some first-hand knowledge by now. I guess their lawyers told them to be quiet.

Some of the schemes you all have would still have gotten you pinched with solicitation charges. I have read at least two dozen of the arrest reports at this time from both Martin and Indian River County of the mongers.

The majority of these guys went into the places and paid up front at the front desk when they made their appointment. There were video cameras looking at the desk and operational in the massage rooms. Money didn't need to exchange hands in the massage room in order to get the solicitation charge.

LEO says it has video evidence. If Kraft fights this and takes it to trial, the video will become public (and immediately go viral).

I think the DAs are salivating over how much of a fine he will be willing to settle with.

[QUOTE=AreaGentleman;4165374]No, not [i]that[/i] kind (.)(.) The bad kind. I'd be interested in opinions from you guys out there with legal expertise. Will post this on several other boards around state.

Presumably, the mega-wealthy Kraft has the best legal team money can buy. Is it possible that local authorities are having an "Oh Shit!" experience as they conjure up the possibility of facing a high-powered legal onslaught? Maybe not. But, with thousand dollar per hour (or whatever they get) people figuring out ways to overcome this clusterfuck for their guy, is it conceivable that a determination would be made that the whole thing gets thrown out due to citizen privacy rights getting trampled, extreme bias or other factors (which I know nothing about)? And if that were the case, could it result in the opposite of intended effect by making it less likely that LE would execute similar operations? Maybe even make it unconstitutional to bug a massage therapy client room? It would be pretty amazing if LE landed a fish so big that it sinks their boat.

-AG.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Joeblow300;4165473]So I, as I am sure quite a few on here, have been watching the fallout from the Indian River / Martin county busts closely. Here are my thoughts:

First. I appreciate how BO collects the money up front. I have the opportunity to always say I merely paid for a massage and never gave any more.

Second. It seems the Orlando area connection (for now) is that the mamasan moved to a spa up here. It looks like all the video surveillance happened down south. Unless they just haven't pulled the trigger on an Orlando investigation yet.

Third. I am staying out of the Asian massage parlors for now. I want no part of a huge, very public frocking. The AMP's appeal to me in the past was the safety. That's gone. I think the fact that they snagged a few very high profile John's is going to have other sherriffs salavating to do the same all over.[/QUOTE]Brother I agree with you 100%, I will be staying away for awhile. Now a couple of thoughts, how much more business the independents will receive. Will they keep there business model the same and not drive up $. And on the flip side will the AMP lower there $ because so much business will be gone. TD out Stay safe.

[QUOTE=Joeblow300;4165473]So I, as I am sure quite a few on here, have been watching the fallout from the Indian River / Martin county busts closely. Here are my thoughts:

First. I appreciate how BO collects the money up front. I have the opportunity to always say I merely paid for a massage and never gave any more.

Second. It seems the Orlando area connection (for now) is that the mamasan moved to a spa up here. It looks like all the video surveillance happened down south. Unless they just haven't pulled the trigger on an Orlando investigation yet.

Third. I am staying out of the Asian massage parlors for now. I want no part of a huge, very public frocking. The AMP's appeal to me in the past was the safety. That's gone. I think the fact that they snagged a few very high profile John's is going to have other sherriffs salavating to do the same all over.[/QUOTE]That's right, the AMP was perceived as a very safe venue, apparently even for billionaires. Now it isn't. That changes their appeal and, one would think, and their ability to survive as a viable business.

[QUOTE=TattooedDaddy;4165699]Brother I agree with you 100%, I will be staying away for awhile. Now a couple of thoughts, [b]how much more business the independents will receive. Will they keep there business model the same and not drive up $[/b]. And on the flip side will the AMP lower there $ because so much business will be gone. TD out Stay safe.[/QUOTE]I asked one in the Space Coast, and she said she wasn't seeing any new customers at all now. If they see fewer clients. The price will either go up or they'll quit.

[QUOTE=Grain56;4164792]When I heard they had bigger fish and knowing Jupiter was one of the cities, I was actually expecting a Tiger to come out of the Woods with the next report of a high profile person they have on video.

Grain 56.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SCJames;4164908]Who could possibly be bigger in Jupiter.[/QUOTE]Bert didn't die until September 2018. He COULD have had a death bed wish for an Asian Boom Boom Rub Down towards the end. The 8 month timing works out. Just saying.

Grain 56.

[QUOTE=Magnificent787;4165489]I think our ship has sailed. It's only a matter of time until GG, BO, WB and the others are history. While human trafficking is an abomination, it's also disturbing that you can enter a business with an expectation of privacy in a massage room and be the subject of a court ordered video. Embarrassing at the very least. Is this really even constitutional? Wow. I'm retiring from the AMP scene.[/QUOTE]One of my visits at BO was with Julie who speaks really good English. I chatted with her awhile and asked about trafficking since she spoke fluent English. She laughed and told me that the girls that work there aren't trafficked, they are more like diva's. She said they choose to work and they out the owners to work driving them around whenever they want to wherever they want. Now that was just one person's view but I did believe her.

As for the Constitutionality, a video warrant is Constitutional. It could be argued in court that the facts used to support the warrant weren't correct but yeah, they can definitely do that. It's just been that law enforcement hasn't cared that much to go to those lengths in the past.

[QUOTE=Grain56;4165798]Bert didn't die until September 2018. He COULD have had a death bed wish for an Asian Boom Boom Rub Down towards the end. The 8 month timing works out. Just saying.

Grain 56.[/QUOTE]Is in Mexico right now. Monday? Also, I read that Kraft was a member at Mar a Lago. Hmmm. Wonder who else might be high profile there?

[QUOTE=McWired;4165569]I haven't done any research on this, but obviously you have. How / where did you find this list?[/QUOTE]Someone else referenced the USA Today article where these were listed. Read down a day or two. As for me I'm puzzled because a lot of these are not on most must go to lists. On this list I've only been to East Spa in Orland on that little back street off Fairbanks. Went there once, big yawn. The few reviews they got were.

'don't bother" and the others except for the one in Vero got not much traffic and not much in rave reviews. So how the fuck did they get targeted when the big 4 have had maybe 1000 reviews, all raves? Maybe they're just warming up. You have to know they read this shit so that's what I don't get. In the mean time I'm going to go for something ordinary, off the grid. Just score with the ole charm. Ha, if you knew why success with the ole charm you'd be lyao. Things could get messy. There are a few of my regulars that I've suggested they be cool and I won't be seeing them any time soon.

Is it me or do we have an influx of trolls to our Orlando area MP board. I see many new User IDs that RARLEY ever post or never post in our board wanting to weigh in. Sorry guys, but I will only be reading at the regular posters that have been on the board over the last year. Welcome newbies and please take your paranoia elsewhere.

Stay Safe and horny.

Harry P.

Things are about to get interesting our greedy providers are willing to testify and backstab certain owners just to save their greedy little behinds, wechat is going nuts with a few pictures or certain providers young and old who have turned on their own, this will turn into an interesting free for all battle soon.