Non Pro's

Love Goldenn.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/012d1947-354b-4f2f-9c4f-641169631ca6[/URL]

In auburn and is a pro. Sent a text from two different numbers. One is for a add on listctawler.

With the attitude I got through text I believe it's someone else controlling the account.

Did get that she wants 3 for an hour.

Fineapple.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9d6aa0ad-823b-4ff0-9b5e-f3d8097f3192[/URL]

This is Marz from the site that starts with a T.

I like how these pros talk a whole different game on seeking.

I will have a few more soon.

Every week or so I go in to see who is new and how long they have been on SA. I first search in my old fart category 45-65 and over the past 8 months there have only been 16 new ladies. Of those new ladies only 10 didn't look like worn out old ladies. Of those 10, about 4 were attractive. There is about 1 new ladies every few weeks. Once you get threw the first 30, not one of ladies has been on in months.

Now for the 30-45 range, the ladies are getting much more makeup, photoshop, and posed in exotic places. They have that fake catfish looking makeup.

It's not like is was 4 years ago when you had some normal looking ladies that would respond or like you. They would stay on much longer that just a week.

So look for when they joined, when was the last time they were on, and do they have more than one public picture.

Anyone have Intel on this one?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/3dd865f0-4dfd-4d34-bfdc-cb5d7b44bc82[/URL]

Her offer seems TGTBT.

I'm thinking it's going to be another cash app scam.

[QUOTE=MilfHunter66;6452312]Avoid this one.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/22f59b2f-762a-4815-8096-f96f038609c1[/URL]

Seen her once a few months ago. I wasn't going to see her again because it was just an ok time.

She reached out last week wanting to see me again. I figured what the heck maybe it would be better this time since we had been together once. Communication was great all week. A hour before she texted me saying how excited she was. I was going to her apartment BTW. About 10 minutes I let her know I was almost there. Parked texted I was there. Started walking to here place and was approached by a guy asking what I was doing here. I said I was visiting a friend. He said no I wasn't and should leave. So I did. I sent her a few more text but never heard anything back.

Be warned[/QUOTE]OMG, I was texting w / her a few days ago and she quickly became borderline incoherent. Like maybe she had real words in her head as she was typing, but she sure as hell wasn't spelling words that I knew.

[QUOTE=MilfHunter66;6484266]Anyone have Intel on this one?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/3dd865f0-4dfd-4d34-bfdc-cb5d7b44bc82[/URL]

Her offer seems TGTBT.

I'm thinking it's going to be another cash app scam.[/QUOTE]What's her offer? Her profile doesn't scream scam.

FriendlyGurl.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c8ac50a2-231f-4d26-937a-957e2ebf3b0c[/URL]

Scammer, asks for deposit to host, yet refuses to meet anywhere safe first.

Sweetlily.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9119f7b8-6bbf-4ccb-876f-67a308f6083f[/URL]

GPS / scammer, wants you to pay for her travel expenses across the country to meet you.

[QUOTE=Muncher7000;6483685]Every week or so I go in to see who is new and how long they have been on SA.[/QUOTE]

I honestly don't have many to message now as I've exhausted most around the Seattle area. Pretty much have to wait as a few people each day get online or go way further out in distance. There definitely are some bored types in the middle of nowhere, but I don't feel like driving 2+ hrs to meet them.

[QUOTE=PoonHound1969;6484772]What's her offer? Her profile doesn't scream scam.[/QUOTE]It was basically come have me for 180 bare. Can't host or drive. I would need to cash app her first so she can get an Uber.

Send you an offer that just seems to good to pass up. I would imagine if I sent her money she would go silent.

Well she went silent indeed I told her I don't do cash app. I would give her more then what she ask if we meet in person. That was yesterday and I haven't heard anything back.

[QUOTE=MilfHunter66;6485619]It was basically come have me for 180 bare. Can't host or drive. I would need to cash app her first so she can get an Uber.

Send you an offer that just seems to good to pass up. I would imagine if I sent her money she would go silent.

Well she went silent indeed I told her I don't do cash app. I would give her more then what she ask if we meet in person. That was yesterday and I haven't heard anything back.[/QUOTE]If you don't know, you can add additional people to your Uber account and pay directly for the driver to pick them up and take them to your place. I got caught once with "paying for Uber" who went as far as to pretend that the Uber picked her up before she ghosted. After that, I simply add their name to my Uber, ask them their location and send an Uber there to get them. The can access the information about the ride directly on their phone, but don't have to pay. If they don't show up, you're only out of the $5 Uber fee.

[QUOTE=RespectIt;6484542]OMG, I was texting w / her a few days ago and she quickly became borderline incoherent. Like maybe she had real words in her head as she was typing, but she sure as hell wasn't spelling words that I knew.[/QUOTE]She ended up texting me about a week later. Must have forgotten who I was LOL.

She seemed sort of ok?

[QUOTE=MilfHunter66;6485619]It was basically come have me for 180 bare. Can't host or drive. I would need to cash app her first so she can get an Uber.

Send you an offer that just seems to good to pass up. I would imagine if I sent her money she would go silent.

Well she went silent indeed I told her I don't do cash app. I would give her more then what she ask if we meet in person. That was yesterday and I haven't heard anything back.[/QUOTE]That's the most common scam play. Just tell them you'll send the uber for them; then they'll say something like "I don't want to give out my address". Its quite clearly a scam at this point, like 99.9%. If you want to verify it a bit more, tell them you'll send the uber to some nearby recognizable location. If they still insist on money for uber, then yeah 100% scam.

[QUOTE=CameraShy;6474716]Her picture intrigued me, so I reached out.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bcac179d-9753-4baf-ba6b-32b041b661a6[/URL]

Took a while for her to respond, but when she did, we chatted a bit, then moved to text. Was very vague about pricing. Said she didn't like having her time wasted and wanted someone who was serious. Suggested $400 for meet & greet. It was obviously a no-go at that point, but I played along to see if I could get more info. I said $200 was my top for that and suggested a time and place. Didn't want to talk about other things "for her safety" and that we could discuss that during the meet & greet. Literally five minutes before the appointed time, she texts and says "Sorry I didn't reply to confirm. I've been really busy. How's today looking?" I replied back one minute later that it depended on how long it would take to get to the location (knowing there was no way she was coming). Took her an hour to reply and said "I can be there in 30 min, but I'm in a really bad spot. Is there anything I can do for you to help me out now?" So much for not wanting to talk about things until the meet & greet.

Blocked. All while never leaving the comforts of my home.[/QUOTE]She's a pro who doesn't want to deal with the SB aspects. So its not exactly surprising. The links are in the history on this site. Do the search.

[QUOTE=CameraShy;6474716]Her picture intrigued me, so I reached out.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bcac179d-9753-4baf-ba6b-32b041b661a6[/URL]

Took a while for her to respond, but when she did, we chatted a bit, then moved to text. Was very vague about pricing. Said she didn't like having her time wasted and wanted someone who was serious. Suggested $400 for meet & greet. It was obviously a no-go at that point, but I played along to see if I could get more info. I said $200 was my top for that and suggested a time and place. Didn't want to talk about other things "for her safety" and that we could discuss that during the meet & greet. Literally five minutes before the appointed time, she texts and says "Sorry I didn't reply to confirm. I've been really busy. How's today looking?" I replied back one minute later that it depended on how long it would take to get to the location (knowing there was no way she was coming). Took her an hour to reply and said "I can be there in 30 min, but I'm in a really bad spot. Is there anything I can do for you to help me out now?" So much for not wanting to talk about things until the meet & greet.

Blocked. All while never leaving the comforts of my home.[/QUOTE]Was a pro. Took down her profile. [URL]https://pacnwescortads.com/illy-grand/[/URL].

But yea. Pro.

[QUOTE=CameraShy;6474716]Her picture intrigued me, so I reached out.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bcac179d-9753-4baf-ba6b-32b041b661a6[/URL]

Took a while for her to respond, but when she did, we chatted a bit, then moved to text. Was very vague about pricing. Said she didn't like having her time wasted and wanted someone who was serious. Suggested $400 for meet & greet. It was obviously a no-go at that point, but I played along to see if I could get more info. I said $200 was my top for that and suggested a time and place. Didn't want to talk about other things "for her safety" and that we could discuss that during the meet & greet. Literally five minutes before the appointed time, she texts and says "Sorry I didn't reply to confirm. I've been really busy. How's today looking?" I replied back one minute later that it depended on how long it would take to get to the location (knowing there was no way she was coming). Took her an hour to reply and said "I can be there in 30 min, but I'm in a really bad spot. Is there anything I can do for you to help me out now?" So much for not wanting to talk about things until the meet & greet.

Blocked. All while never leaving the comforts of my home.[/QUOTE]Any time someone talks about time wasted, they are a pro. It is the number 1 complaint on the other board. They always think their time is more valuable than ours.

Anyone have info on this one? Seems like an amateur but the photos could be pro.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/160a0a8b-ef78-4947-a0a1-6abdb65819e8[/URL]

[QUOTE=Money420;6282479]Anybody have any info? I've been messaging her. She seems legit, haven't talked $$$ yet, not trying to scare her away! I'll be staying in the south KC area for a few days and thought I would try to hook up with her if the cost isn't stupid. She's been around for a while and has local sight pics I'm familiar with.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/034a98a6-3a19-4e90-a33f-71816b300477[/URL][/QUOTE]I chatted with her a while ago. I asked to meet in the middle as I was in Seattle and she was down south, and Refused- She was adamant that I go see her for meet and greet.

Bad vibes just in her text.

GPS.

[QUOTE=Mrnaks;6490218]I chatted with her a while ago. I asked to meet in the middle as I was in Seattle and she was down south, and Refused- She was adamant that I go see her for meet and greet.

Bad vibes just in her text.

GPS.[/QUOTE]I talked to her a while ago. She wanted 300 for a meet and greet and immediately blocked me when I balked at it.

[QUOTE=Mrnaks;6490218]I chatted with her a while ago. I asked to meet in the middle as I was in Seattle and she was down south, and Refused- She was adamant that I go see her for meet and greet.

Bad vibes just in her text.

GPS.[/QUOTE][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0...f-71816b300477[/URL]

Kind of a *****, anything BUT flirty. I blocked her a long time ago.

LOL, they're not even trying:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/cf2efc03-fce1-4e4f-af2b-2804046b9ebe[/URL]

From same pic set as profile.

[URL]https://www.tiktok.com/@lenaXXXX[/URL]

[QUOTE=Hypster;6491600]LOL, they're not even trying:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/cf2efc03-fce1-4e4f-af2b-2804046b9ebe[/URL]

From same pic set as profile.

[URL]https://www.tiktok.com/@lenaXXXX[/URL][/QUOTE]She or whoever messaged me earlier today. Gave them my burner number and exchanged a few text. I think once they figured out I wasn't a easy mark the went silent.

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Too bad no one can read this. Nobody will be contacting you now! But then again you already have a negative reputation on here so I don't really need to reiterate it.

[QUOTE=Money420;6493501]Too bad no one can read this. Nobody will be contacting you now! But then again you already have a negative reputation on here so I don't really need to reiterate it.[/QUOTE]So, if she knew about this site then either:

1. Some asshole White Knight told her about this site and sent her here.

2. She was already a hooker and knew about it.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;6493861]So, if she knew about this site then either:

1. Some asshole White Knight told her about this site and sent her here.

2. She was already a hooker and knew about it.[/QUOTE]While both of those are possible, this site and the very few like it aren't exactly a secret to anyone.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;6493861]So, if she knew about this site then either:

1. Some asshole White Knight told her about this site and sent her here.

2. She was already a hooker and knew about it.[/QUOTE]Didn't she have a back-and-forth here a few months ago as well?

[QUOTE=DonQuixote2;6493916]While both of those are possible, this site and the very few like it aren't exactly a secret to anyone.[/QUOTE]A "normal" woman isn't going to be sitting around reading USA Sex Guide. Yes, the site may be known to people, but it's known mainly to people that have a certain interest. Think of it like swinger web sites. People that have zero interest being a swinger don't just go there to read what's up. People that have no interest in escorts or being an escort don't come here. Hell, even escorts don't know about this place. So, she had to either be an escort or was guided here.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;6494101]A "normal" woman isn't going to be sitting around reading USA Sex Guide. Yes, the site may be known to people, but it's known mainly to people that have a certain interest. Think of it like swinger web sites. People that have zero interest being a swinger don't just go there to read what's up. People that have no interest in escorts or being an escort don't come here. Hell, even escorts don't know about this place. So, she had to either be an escort or was guided here.[/QUOTE]The site does come up in the first page if you Google her username.

*Shrug*.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;6494101]A "normal" woman isn't going to be sitting around reading USA Sex Guide. Yes, the site may be known to people, but it's known mainly to people that have a certain interest. Think of it like swinger web sites. People that have zero interest being a swinger don't just go there to read what's up. People that have no interest in escorts or being an escort don't come here. Hell, even escorts don't know about this place. So, she had to either be an escort or was guided here.[/QUOTE]LOL. I don't need the argument and that * means nothing to me but "normal women" won't fuck you for 300 bucks!

She's a sex worker! Sugar babies, strippers, some masseuse, street walkers and escorts are sex workers. After a while they'll learn where to look just the same as you did. Think of how you found these type of sites.

Every sugar site I've been on list some things to do and look for to stay safe. First one is to do a phone number search! What's the odds one of you guys texted from a poon phone? Wouldn't take much to see that some of us use both sugar sites and escort sites.

I've been looking at sugar babies in anchorage at least 5 of them use the same pictures or phone numbers as they did in escorts ads. If the lady isn't high as fuck, it shouldn't be that hard to do the same basic background checks you do.

[QUOTE=Travelerr;6494238]The site does come up in the first page if you Google her username.

*Shrug*.[/QUOTE]Okay. You win this one.

[QUOTE=DonQuixote2;6494250]LOL. I don't need the argument and that * means nothing to me but "normal women" won't fuck you for 300 bucks!

She's a sex worker! Sugar babies, strippers, some masseuse, street walkers and escorts are sex workers. After a while they'll learn where to look just the same as you did. Think of how you found these type of sites.

Every sugar site I've been on list some things to do and look for to stay safe. First one is to do a phone number search! What's the odds one of you guys texted from a poon phone? Wouldn't take much to see that some of us use both sugar sites and escort sites.

I've been looking at sugar babies in anchorage at least 5 of them use the same pictures or phone numbers as they did in escorts ads. If the lady isn't high as fuck, it shouldn't be that hard to do the same basic background checks you do.[/QUOTE]I don't quite understand everything you're saying but I agree 100% with the classification of sex work that includes sugaring. I can't prove it but in the short time I've been doing the SA route, more women are on there willing to negotiate for "short term" arrangements, aka ONS, than when I started. I know a girl who did sugaring, she was there for quick money not to find a "daddy". Maybe the fantasy is to find one, but that's like probably less than 10% of all arrangements on the site.

The fact is that sugaring is just the latest workaround to the moral hypocrisy in this country regarding sexuality and income inequality. And women like FB profit off of the illegality of sex work. It benefits them financially and so does attacking anyone who disagrees. That's why I have no moral qualms about negotiating because it has nothing to do with exploitation, it's a money grab on their part. If it was legal, prices would plummet to levels that legitimate competition would dictate. Just look at the marijuana industry, it would be the same thing. Regulated, safer, and CHEAP.

Manisha / Jasmyne is young but a freak. She's done threesomes with mongers from here and she will take it raw including CIP. A little annoying sometimes but you can just tune out her nonsense. Don't be a white knight and tell her about USG LOL. If you bang her, drop me a message and let me know if you like it as much as a few of us did.

[URL]https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/9adc0de683f13c02[/URL]

[QUOTE=Merovingian2;6496677]Manisha / Jasmyne is young but a freak. She's done threesomes with mongers from here and she will take it raw including CIP. A little annoying sometimes but you can just tune out her nonsense. Don't be a white knight and tell her about USG LOL. If you bang her, drop me a message and let me know if you like it as much as a few of us did.

[URL]https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/9adc0de683f13c02[/URL][/QUOTE]Is she PPM? If so what is her usual cost so nobody overpays.

[QUOTE=Merovingian2;6496677]Manisha / Jasmyne is young but a freak. She's done threesomes with mongers from here and she will take it raw including CIP. A little annoying sometimes but you can just tune out her nonsense. Don't be a white knight and tell her about USG LOL. If you bang her, drop me a message and let me know if you like it as much as a few of us did.

[URL]https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/9adc0de683f13c02[/URL][/QUOTE]Congrats, that ms one in a million. Most of the people of SB are content sellers. Keep up the hard work!

[QUOTE=JSnake921;6497565]Congrats, that ms one in a million. Most of the people of SB are content sellers. Keep up the hard work![/QUOTE]She use to be on SA but dropped off it. That's where some of her met her. She's the real deal. There are a couple more that have migrated from SA to SB that I've met and know they are DTF.

[QUOTE=Darkhosis;6494355]I don't quite understand everything you're saying but I agree 100% with the classification of sex work that includes sugaring. I can't prove it but in the short time I've been doing the SA route, more women are on there willing to negotiate for "short term" arrangements, aka ONS, than when I started. I know a girl who did sugaring, she was there for quick money not to find a "daddy". Maybe the fantasy is to find one, but that's like probably less than 10% of all arrangements on the site.

The fact is that sugaring is just the latest workaround to the moral hypocrisy in this country regarding sexuality and income inequality. And women like FB profit off of the illegality of sex work. It benefits them financially and so does attacking anyone who disagrees. That's why I have no moral qualms about negotiating because it has nothing to do with exploitation, it's a money grab on their part. If it was legal, prices would plummet to levels that legitimate competition would dictate. Just look at the marijuana industry, it would be the same thing. Regulated, safer, and CHEAP.[/QUOTE]Your girls are, for sure.

Not everyone using SA takes that attitude. I get on there to find one girl I can have an ongoing relationship with, and I get off. And over time, there is exchange of a lot of different things in our relationship. Among them are money and physical relations. Lots of other stuff too. I'd challenge someone, if I gave them a list, to differentiate things I do with / for my wife and my SB. I am sure neither of them read USASG.

Everyone gets the bowl they are looking for.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6497820]Your girls are, for sure.

Not everyone using SA takes that attitude. I get on there to find one girl I can have an ongoing relationship with, and I get off. And over time, there is exchange of a lot of different things in our relationship. Among them are money and physical relations. Lots of other stuff too. I'd challenge someone, if I gave them a list, to differentiate things I do with / for my wife and my SB. I am sure neither of them read USASG.

Everyone gets the bowl they are looking for.[/QUOTE]You're completely off the mark. LOL. I never talk about "my girls" because I don't broadcast my private life on a forum for sex-crazed guys.

OFC there's a variety, including the neo-traditionalist types that seek validation about how romantic their arrangements are on reddit. I was speaking of a specific kind of user, specifically the semi-pro women on SA. But on the whole, I believe mutual respect includes not being a sucker. And I don't buy into the idea that some sugaring is somehow progressive and "more than" sex work.

[QUOTE=Darkhosis;6498610]You're completely off the mark. LOL. I never talk about "my girls" because I don't broadcast my private life on a forum for sex-crazed guys.

OFC there's a variety, including the neo-traditionalist types that seek validation about how romantic their arrangements are on reddit. I was speaking of a specific kind of user, specifically the semi-pro women on SA. But on the whole, I believe mutual respect includes not being a sucker. And I don't buy into the idea that some sugaring is somehow progressive and "more than" sex work.[/QUOTE]You broadcast your attitude about those you see with "I agree 100% with the classification of sex work. Includes sugaring". That is what you get because that is your attitude. I get something different (and different women for sure) because I am going for something else.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;6493861]So, if she knew about this site then either:

1. Some asshole White Knight told her about this site and sent her here.

2. She was already a hooker and knew about it.[/QUOTE]Well if she's a hooker she's probably starving because she has a shit attitude. You wouldn't even get past the first contact and lose interest.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6498658]You broadcast your attitude about those you see with "I agree 100% with the classification of sex work. Includes sugaring". That is what you get because that is your attitude. I get something different (and different women for sure) because I am going for something else.[/QUOTE]Buddy, if you're paying for a woman's company, and sex is involved, it's sex work. There's no ifs, ands, or buts about it. That's not an attitude, it's a fact. You're here so obviously you understand that on some level.

I'm going to drop this one sided conversation, LOL. Thank you, mod, for your patience. Let's get back to actual useful information.

Most of the girls on the sugar sites are really bad at business. Which makes sense because if they were good at business they wouldn't need to be there.

A lot of them happen to be in emergency-level financial trouble, like being a few days away from eviction. So if they need $1000 to stay in their dumpy apartment with their two kids, they'll ask for $1000 for a meeting. There is no supply and demand, only desperation and panic talking. My own experience has been if you actually talk to them and listen to them (and get them to listen) you can often work something decent out.

I also think that when a woman really needs money, she can be really cold-blooded about it. And I think a lot of girls won't take money for a fuck only because they are terrified they will be murdered or even more terrified that their social circle will find out about it.

[QUOTE=Darkhosis;6500252]Buddy, if you're paying for a woman's company, and sex is involved, it's sex work. There's no ifs, ands, or buts about it. That's not an attitude, it's a fact. You're here so obviously you understand that on some level.

I'm going to drop this one sided conversation, LOL. Thank you, mod, for your patience. Let's get back to actual useful information.[/QUOTE]Are you married? I'd say that my 'ppm' w / my SO is 10 x greater than anything I have ever paid to an escort, masseuse, etc. Or are your powers of reasoning not grasping?