"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

MsSuccessful had turned out to be a roaring success. So much so, that I'm going to have to cease talking about her on this board. She should have been on AM instead of a SD site. We are fin full blown affair mode. We've done the Tiggabounce 3 times in the last 3 days. I've been able to get her gifts, but it is nothing SD like. Since she also pays for meals, rooms and other things, drives a car just a nice as mine, has an expense account, and tries to pay for my gas, LOL, I cannot honestly put her in the SB category.

I am working on the stunning one with the DDs. She's only 21 and very inexperienced. She's been ready to do the Tiggabounce, but as you can tell MsSuccessful has had me busy. I've see her 3 times, but the last 2 were very brief. I've given her some funds, to keep her interested. I also stopped by with some Valentine's day goodies. That went over very well. I can't see this being long term, but I've got to hit it a few times for posterity.

All others are basically on hold, so I'm not sure I'll have much exciting to contribute for a while.

BigTigg

Hi guy, from my last post I said I score an AA girl from sd4m (lets call her Lily) in my area, and guess what, I think I struck GOLD.

So she txt me on Tuesday, ask me if I can meet her on Wed evening. I had nothing in plan so I said yes, and that was ALL I HAD TO DO.

She had a female cousin that works at a low cost motel close to her school, so whenever people check out a day early, Lily can use the room for free. So on Wednesday she set up everything and tell me to meet her at the motel. I met her at the parking lot, she bought carryout for me and her. We walk in together and she chat with her cousin for a little and pick up the key (asked if she can get her female cousin in for a 3some but she firmly said no) got in the room, had dinner together, relax for a movie, shower together and hit the main event. After we are done, I asked her how much was the dinner and if I need to take care of the room, she said no, the room is free and dinner didn't cost much. She told me just to give her the $ we agreed on. $ plus. 3 was all I had with me so I gave it all to her. She was very thankful and told me I could stay the nite with her, I told her no because I have to work the next day.

The only bad thing about this girl is she is a one pop wonder. She cums easily (or at least she acts like she is) and she cums 3-4 time during my one pop. She needs a little break everytime she cums so by the time I finish my first pop, is almost an hour. By then she is all tire out and said she can't take it for another hour.

I m planning to see her again this weekend, she said there is a good chance people will check out early on Sunday and we can use the room on late Sunday nite.

My first SB and I got lucky, I guess I will lay low for a bit until I m done with Lily. Thanks for all the info you guys put in here, will never score this AA hottie without the info here. Thanks guys.

Hi guy, from my last post I said I score an AA girl from sd4m (lets call her Lily) in my area, and guess what, I think I struck GOLD.

So she txt me on Tuesday, ask me if I can meet her on Wed evening. I had nothing in plan so I said yes, and that was ALL I HAD TO DO.

She had a female cousin that works at a low cost motel close to her school, so whenever people check out a day early, Lily can use the room for free. So on Wednesday she set up everything and tell me to meet her at the motel. I met her at the parking lot, she bought carryout for me and her. We walk in together and she chat with her cousin for a little and pick up the key (asked if she can get her female cousin in for a 3some but she firmly said no) got in the room, had dinner together, relax for a movie, shower together and hit the main event. After we are done, I asked her how much was the dinner and if she needs help to take care of the room, she said no, the room is free and dinner didn't cost much. She told me just to give her the $ we agreed on. $ plus. 3 was all I had with me so I gave it all to her. She was very thankful and told me I could stay the nite with her, I told her no because I have to work the next day.

The only bad thing about this girl is she is a one pop wonder. She cums easily (or at least she acts like she is) and she cums 3-4 time during my one pop. She needs a little break everytime she cums so by the time I finish my first pop, is almost an hour. By then she is all tire out and said she can't take it for another hour.

I m planning to see her again this weekend, she said there is a good chance people will check out early on Sunday and we can use the room on late Sunday nite.

My first SB and I got lucky, I guess I will lay low for a bit until I m done with Lily. Thanks for all the info you guys put in here, will never score this AA hottie without the info here. Thanks guys.

If we can help just one person score a nutt, then the board has fulfilled it's purpose. LOL.

[QUOTE=RavensFan;1679981]Thanks for all the info you guys put in here, will never score this AA hottie without the info here. Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BigTigger; 1679861]MsSuccessful had turned out to be a roaring success. Since she also pays for meals, rooms and other things, drives a car just a nice as mine, has an expense account, and tries to pay for my gas, LOL, I cannot honestly put her in the SB category.

All others are basically on hold, so I'm not sure I'll have much exciting to contribute for a while.

BigTigg[/QUOTE]Good report, hold on to her as long as you can, I've had a few over the years that fit this description that I bailed on after awhile for one reason or another. Though they didn't come from / through the sugar world, in your case as long as she doesn't try to put you on "boyfriend / faithful / exclusive" status ride it as long as you can, haha.

[QUOTE=RavensFan;1679981]She had a female cousin that works at a low cost motel close to her school, so whenever people check out a day early, Lily can use the room for free.[/QUOTE]Are you able to get fresh / clean sheets and towels?

Well the crazy ***** has called my wife back at her work now. Wife was not there but called me to asked me about her. She gave wife two different names already. I asked wife who is it Kimberly or Elissa?

Wife said she does not know. Just left a message with receptionist that she needed to talk to her about Revvo. I said I don't know who it is never heard of either. Don't you think it is strange that there are two different names? She said she does not know.

I can tell she is suspicious. Asked me if there is anything she should know. I said no very nonchalantly. I asked her if she was going to call crazy ***** back. She said I don't know should I. I said I don't know.

That is where it is at now.

She is getting closer. 90% chance shit will hit the fan. I think I have found the one smart crazy criminal on the planet. I am fucked.

Revvo

[QUOTE=SubCmdr; 1678906]All of my Garden Tools know I'm seeing others and they are too. I asked one to be exclusive and she said no. A interesting reality check for me.

I've have this discussion with all of my regulars. There seems to be a understanding that it is not a naturally exclusive relationship. You can buy pussy. But you can't buy the person. This is because of many factors. The main one is this: We are most likely significantly older than our Garden Tools and probably married. Our Garden Tools often has not given up on that dream for their own lives. They are not going to stop pursuit of that goal just because we are giving them a little cash. Some are honest enough to tell you this straight up. Others will sell you the idea you want.

I know this has been discussed before. But I think the natural structure of the relationship with a Garden Tool does not lend itself to exclusivity. After all if we wanted to be exclusive wouldn't we just keep fucking our wives or SO's? And wouldn't our Garden Tools instead become girlfriends and wives? Can a one sided relationship really work? It has nothing to do with the money. We give them the money in order to get the pussy. After the exchange is complete the reality is that they are free to sell pussy to the next person that comes along.

Unless you are providing for their every need and have them under lock and key, the only time you know your Garden Tool is not fucking someone else is when you have your dick in her. A harsh reality but much more likely to be closer to the truth than thinking she is exclusive to you.

Go balls deep & prosper!

SubCmdr Out[/QUOTE]I believe that everyone should read and memorize this piece of profound advice. Had I known this before would have kept me from being hurt. Hurt in the wallet and heart. LOL. Aloha from Hawaii.

"Well the crazy * has called my wife " Revvo.

I hate to be the voice of doom, but all of us will be exposed if we do this long enough. The problem is that we become addicted to the lifestyle and the high that we get from it. It is much like alcohol or drug addiction. I have it bad and got exposed because I could not stop, or at least tone back to modest exposure.

You should call her (the tool) and inform her that you have told your wife, she is behind you, and will call the police if she bothers you or your wife again.

The other thing you might consider doing is throw yourself at her feet (wife) , confess a little bit, at least about this tool, and beg forgiveness. If she finds out it is better coming from you. Several of us here have gone through that trial.

Good luck Nando

[QUOTE=Revvo; 1680389]Well the crazy * has called my wife back at her work now. Wife was not there but called me to asked me about her. She gave wife two different names already. I asked wife who is it Kimberly or Elissa?

Wife said she does not know. Just left a message with receptionist that she needed to talk to her about Revvo. I said I don't know who it is never heard of either. Don't you think it is strange that there are two different names? She said she does not know.

I can tell she is suspicious. Asked me if there is anything she should know. I said no very nonchalantly. I asked her if she was going to call crazy * back. She said I don't know should I. I said I don't know.

That is where it is at now.

She is getting closer. 90% chance shit will hit the fan. I think I have found the one smart crazy criminal on the planet. I am fucked.

Revvo[/QUOTE]If you know anything about her, then maybe you can use a pressure point of her own against her. For example, is she a single mom in the midst of a custody dispute? If so, you can say "do you really want this coming up?" As I said, just an example, there could be others.

But the best advice I can give you is go to the cops now and lay it out for them. Yes, it will hurt, but it's better than the alternatives in my opinion.

[QUOTE=Hernando; 1680802]"Well the crazy * has called my wife " Revvo.

I hate to be the voice of doom, but all of us will be exposed if we do this long enough. The problem is that we become addicted to the lifestyle and the high that we get from it. It is much like alcohol or drug addiction. I have it bad and got exposed because I could not stop, or at least tone back to modest exposure.

You should call her (the tool) and inform her that you have told your wife, she is behind you, and will call the police if she bothers you or your wife again.

The other thing you might consider doing is throw yourself at her feet (wife) , confess a little bit, at least about this tool, and beg forgiveness. If she finds out it is better coming from you. Several of us here have gone through that trial.

Good luck Nando[/QUOTE]Long time lurker on this thread and getting my feet wet on this side of the hobby. Nando gave good advice by telling you to call the crazy chick but go a little further and get a female friend even if you have to pay her to call her and pretend she is your wife and play along with her. From me studying this board and studying the mental make up of so called SB's the safest route to tell them is that you are either not married or divorced. That will cut the ammunition of one of them getting out of pocket and trying to blackmail you. No need to tell one of them you are married. Future reference is to make a check list. Make up your alto ego name age etc, email, prepaid or green dot credit card, different cell phone or google voice, most important is to keep your car clean and double check center console and glove compartment for any papers with your real name and address. Also when and if she rides with you and you drop her off, clean car and make sure she didn't drop any eye rings or accessories or loose hair in the passenger side of the vehicle.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr; 1678906]All of my Garden Tools know I'm seeing others and they are too. I asked one to be exclusive and she said no. A interesting reality check for me.

I've have this discussion with all of my regulars. There seems to be a understanding that it is not a naturally exclusive relationship. You can buy pussy. But you can't buy the person. This is because of many factors. The main one is this: We are most likely significantly older than our Garden Tools and probably married. Our Garden Tools often has not given up on that dream for their own lives. They are not going to stop pursuit of that goal just because we are giving them a little cash. Some are honest enough to tell you this straight up. Others will sell you the idea you want.

I know this has been discussed before. But I think the natural structure of the relationship with a Garden Tool does not lend itself to exclusivity. After all if we wanted to be exclusive wouldn't we just keep fucking our wives or SO's? And wouldn't our Garden Tools instead become girlfriends and wives? Can a one sided relationship really work? It has nothing to do with the money. We give them the money in order to get the pussy. After the exchange is complete the reality is that they are free to sell pussy to the next person that comes along.

Unless you are providing for their every need and have them under lock and key, the only time you know your Garden Tool is not fucking someone else is when you have your dick in her. A harsh reality but much more likely to be closer to the truth than thinking she is exclusive to you.

Go balls deep & prosper!

SubCmdr Out[/QUOTE]Many trueism's here. (is that a word. LOL) Due to my inability to stay out of trouble (too many to list). I now have a UTR / Pro living with me. She works SD4me and BP on occasion. I have also seen her flip guys on so called normal dating site into bitches. This arrangement keeps us both protected (as neither of us wants to be in an exclusive arrangement). I have learned quite a bit watching her play guy after guy. And it's impossible for any girl to think they could be exclusive with me when they meet her. She is not allowed to bring anyone over, but they all know her living arrangements. I bring some of my girls here and it helps keep some emotional distance. Rarely do we all play together. Not really my thing. Too distracting. LOL. I realize there are many married guys on here so this is not for you. But the overall point of "You can buy pussy. But you can't buy the person." is so true. Some girls will fall in love anyway and will compete to be the #1 or ATF. These are quality problems for sure.

My live in is also very helpful in weeding out the fake non-pros. Takes one to know one, and she hasnt been wrong yet.

Wow, this is so close to what I went through. The more I thought about it, the more I realized that if the truth comes out, I'm toast either way. So I stuck to my story and eventually that won over. I did have to do some clean up. I added a picture to my account that was not me. I changed the number on my batphone. I double-checked to make sure I did not have any texts or emails that could link my pseudo to my real name. I also got out front and told the wife the preliminary story. It may be too late for that, but you do have the fact that she's given different names and could be classified as unstable. You got to get a story that works and stick to it until you are forced to tell the truth. You have to be in the driver's seat and not reactive. If you have a trusted friend, you may need to employ help and get someone to vouch that she's tried to extort from them also. Don't sit and wait for doom, take action! The worst decision is not making a decision.

Others have given good advice. It's going to hard with the police as you don't have a real name and not sure she's trying to extort you. So it's basic harassment, except that she may be telling the truth.

Revvo, there are no easy solutions with this one, I hate that this happened so early in your SD career.

[QUOTE=Revvo; 1680389]Well the crazy * has called my wife back at her work now. Wife was not there but called me to asked me about her. She gave wife two different names already. I asked wife who is it Kimberly or Elissa?

Wife said she does not know. Just left a message with receptionist that she needed to talk to her about Revvo. I said I don't know who it is never heard of either. Don't you think it is strange that there are two different names? She said she does not know.

I can tell she is suspicious. Asked me if there is anything she should know. I said no very nonchalantly. I asked her if she was going to call crazy * back. She said I don't know should I. I said I don't know.

That is where it is at now.

She is getting closer. 90% chance shit will hit the fan. I think I have found the one smart crazy criminal on the planet. I am fucked.

Revvo[/QUOTE]

So I just got back from seeing the UTR girl. She texted me earlier in the day wanting to meet and I said I would but that I would give her just. 4$. She agreed, so I thought why the hell not.

We were meeting up for a car date late at night and at the beginning she asked if I could stop by the store afterwards to get a few supplies. I wasn't thrilled at the idea since I literally just wanted to pick her up, bang her, and then drop her off. But since she was willing to meet for just. 4$, I tentatively agreed. Plus our first encounter sex-wise was fantastic. However this time it ended up being much more lackluster. I think it had to do with her ex-boyfriend getting out of jail this week because she couldn't stop talking about him. When it came time to do the nasty she was much more distant than before.

Afterward, she still asked to go to the store but now she was saying she just wanted to buy cigs but she left her I'd at home. She asked me if I can buy them, I said I don't feel like getting out of the car. She begged me some more but I said I left my wallet at home also. I then quickly dropped her off.

As mentioned earlier, I keep all my IDs, registration, and etc in a locked box in my car. I wasn't going to unlock this just to buy her cigs. Also I would be vulnerable while in the store buying the cigs with my I'd, she could easily look over my shoulder to see my real name & address on my I'd.

I also felt that she was now migrating back toward her ex-bf who is an ex-con, that's a flaming red warning sign of drama.

I was hoping to keep this girl around for a cheap thrill every now and then. But the situation has just gotten too risky. She doesn't work, doesn't go to school, hangs around with criminal ex-boyfriends, possibly trying to figure out of my real real name. I have no intel on her either, so if she steps out of line, I'd have nothing to use against her.

Just remember to always be vigilant. Assume very girl is a pyscho until you can confirm otherwise.

[QUOTE=John G Smith; 1681015]However this time it ended up being much more lackluster. I think it had to do with her ex-boyfriend getting out of jail this week because she couldn't stop talking about him. When it came time to do the nasty she was much more distant than before.

I also felt that she was now migrating back toward her ex-bf who is an ex-con, that's a flaming red warning sign of drama.

I was hoping to keep this girl around for a cheap thrill every now and then. But the situation has just gotten too risky. She doesn't work, doesn't go to school, hangs around with criminal ex-boyfriends, possibly trying to figure out of my real real name. I have no intel on her either, so if she steps out of line, I'd have nothing to use against her.

Just remember to always be vigilant. Assume very girl is a pyscho until you can confirm otherwise.[/QUOTE]Danger Will Robinson! Danger ahead! Drop this one now.

There is more DANGER than DRAMA ahead with this one.

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