Rants and Raves

[QUOTE=NewDude;4878045] We will all know why China was burning bodied very soon if people continue to be idiots.[/QUOTE]In other words, wait two weeks. We all know why China banned flights in / out of Hubei province to / from anywhere in China but let Hubei fly anywhere else on the planet. To save face. To spread the virus over the world so it wouldn't only be the Chinese economy and people decimated by China virus.

We all know why Tedros at the WHO sat on information re mass contagion and H2 H transmission of China virus. Because China paid them to.

Republican ghouls? Orangeman bad?

[QUOTE=NewDude;4878045]For anyone interested, I'm in the medical field. Delusional Americans and republican ghouls are asking you to trust a conman, and people who admit they're not a news organization, and ignore scientist, doctors, and other medical personnel that see what's going on. It's getting bad here in Atlanta guys, and it will be very bad in the next 30 days if a legitimate treatment is cleared soon. Remdesvir is barely better than a placebo at this point without more data to analyze. Be very careful, and don't listen to any idiot that tells you to ignore the people that decided to study science and pay an outrageous amount of money for secondary education only to get raped by taxes in the US, all so they can treat and help sick people. We will all know why China was burning bodied very soon if people continue to be idiots.[/QUOTE]Shut the hell up, you are probably a bad doctor or nurse. I've ran into more shit doctors then actual good ones! All y'all do these days is prescribe drugs, basically a high dollar pharmacist.

[QUOTE=Worf359;4876317]Only the DemocRATS want to ban free speech. Only DemocRATS want a government that have total control of our daily lives. Only DemocRATS want to eliminate the 2nd Amendment so citizens have no way to fight back. Just like the Taliban and other Tyrannical dictators democRATS refuse to allow any voice of dissent. This week we saw them turn on a Hispanic company just for the CEO having the audacity to say something nice about this president. DemocRATS claim to be the party of inclusion well they are until you voice any opinion other than the one they tell you. CNN anchor and world champion C at ck sucker Don Lemon has even gone so far as to call other black men (House Negros) for their support of Trump. As for Joe Biden he has been a Politician for over 40 years and yet Trump is the reason the country is so bad and he's going to fix it why didn't he fix it in his first 40 years?[/QUOTE]What a bunch of hooey! So, has Trump united America? NO! Does Dotard have a heath plan? NO! Does the orange haired dingo have ANY plans for the next four years? NO! Does Cheeto want to take away people's heath care in the midst of a pandemic when they need it most? YES!

FYI, COVID-19 will be the real swing voter in this election. The sheer scale of the health crisis, and its current trajectory, sweeps every other issue before it, as it should. COVID-19 and Trump's response to it is in the drivers seat of the economy, and that is almost always dispositive. If we enter November closing in on 200,000 deaths, with the toll rising, and in a virally caused economic slump, I just can't see how ANY incumbent, Trump included, can get elected.

Under Team Orange, the US Treasury racked up a RECORD deficit of over $800 billion in June.

[QUOTE=RedneckStud;4878370]Under Team Orange, the US Treasury racked up a RECORD deficit of over $800 billion in June.[/QUOTE]That's correct, 864 Billion. Delta just reported a quarterly loss of 5. 7 Billion but they took 5. 8 Billion from Team Orange as did all the major airlines to keep from immediately letting employees go. So all the major US carriers would be bankrupt and firing most of their staff without these grants and loans. So which option do you prefer? Running a huge deficit and handing out money to keep people on payrolls (or at home), or letting it all drop. Downsizing Atlanta Hartsfield by 60% wouldn't bother me one bit but I'm sure someone would complain. At least the $600 per week booster money will be gone after July. This will certainly help with the deficit and encourage people to put on a mask and get off the couch. Does't really matter who's in charge, you can subsidize people to "stay home and be safe" or stop printing money and let those with a viable business model survive while the others adjust their lifestyle to fit their income. Looking forward to herd immunity or a vaccine within 6 months.

[QUOTE=RedneckStud;4878370]Under Team Orange, the US Treasury racked up a RECORD deficit of over $800 billion in June.[/QUOTE]Redneckstud's family tree looks like a wreath.

[QUOTE=BBLove;4878658]Redneckstud's family tree looks like a wreath.[/QUOTE]Nice response, good to see something amusing in this thread.

[QUOTE=AaronHamlet;4878167]Only listen to the educated idiots who went in debt $100,000's for an education. Fauci, exec staff at CDC, NIH, WHO, etc.[/QUOTE]Yeah, sure. And had we listened to the "educated idiots" from the get go, we wouldn't be in the situation we are now. My education has served me well, trust me.

[QUOTE=TheBobster;4878805] And had we listened to the "educated idiots" from the get go, we wouldn't be in the situation we are now.[/QUOTE]From the get go, the educated idiots told us to take a cruise, it's only the flu, Trump's a racist for banning flights from China, relax, go see a movie, go to your favorite bar and unwind, China virus is contained, etc. Unless you work for the CDC, NIH, WHO, or a city / state public health org, I didn't include you in the educated idiots.

[QUOTE=AaronHamlet;4878828]From the get go, the educated idiots told us to take a cruise, it's only the flu, Trump's a racist for banning flights from China, relax, go see a movie, go to your favorite bar and unwind, China virus is contained, etc. Unless you work for the CDC, NIH, WHO, or a city / state public health org, I didn't include you in the educated idiots.[/QUOTE]I deal extensively with personnel at the CDC, Emory, NIH, etc. To a "T", I would trust their opinion over any that come from the current administration (perhaps with the exception of Redfield; he is where he is for a reason). Currently, the CDC, doctors, NIH, etc. Are the villains of the day. There has been absolutely no acceptance of blame from the current administration, as they proclaim they are "doing a great job. " Hey, go ahead and accept that BS, but we had ample opportunity to get ready, as shown in the following timeline. Remember one thing. We were assured that this pandemic "was under control" and that it is now "a hoax. " Nothing farther from the truth, and attempts to wish or pray it away have not, and will not work. There are third world nations that have handled this pandemic much better than we have, which quite honestly is shocking. So for those attempting to vilify "educated idiots", a little trip for you down memory lane:

Jan 8th. First CDC warning.

Jan 14th. Trump campaign rally.

Jan 18th. Trump golfs.

Jan 19th. Trump golfs.

Jan 20: "I know more about viruses than anyone. " . "My uncle was a professor at MIT. ".

Jan 22: "We have it totally under control. It's one person coming in from China. It's going to be just fine. ".

Jan 28th. Trump campaign rally.

Jan 30th. Trump campaign rally.

Feb 1st. Trump golfs.

Feb 2: "We pretty much shut it down coming in from China. ".

Feb 10th. Trump campaign rally.

Feb 12th. Dow Jones closes at an all time high of 29,551. 42.

Feb 15 h. Trump golfs.

Feb 19th. Trump campaign rally.

Feb 20th. Trump campaign rally.

Feb 21st. Trump campaign rally.

Feb 24: "The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!

Feb 25: "CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus. ".

Feb 25: "I think that's a problem that's going to go away. They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we're very close to a vaccine. ".

Feb 26: "The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero. ".

Feb 26th - "We're going very substantially down, not up. " Also "This is a flu. This is like a flu"; "Now, you treat this like a flu"; "It's a little like the regular flu that we have flu shots for. And we'll essentially have a flu shot for this in a fairly quick manner. ".

Feb 27: "One day it's like a miracle, it will disappear. ".

Feb 28th. Trump campaign rally. "This is their new hoax. ".

Feb 28: "We're ordering a lot of supplies. We're ordering a lot of, uh, elements that frankly we wouldn't be ordering unless it was something like this. But we're ordering a lot of different elements of medical. ".

March 2nd - "You take a solid flu vaccine, you don't think that could have an impact, or much of an impact, on corona?

March 2: Trump falsely claims "nobody knew" the number of US flu deaths, nope he's the only one that doesn't know as usual.

March 2: Trump says a vaccine is coming "relatively soon" Trump did not mention that CDC had told him earlier that day that a vaccine was "a year to a year and a half" away.

March 4: "If we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work — some of them go to work, but they get better. ".

March 5th - "I NEVER said people that are feeling sick should go to work. " (Trump realizing, he screwed up again).

March 5: Trump wrongly claims the virus only hit the US "three weeks ago" Trump was informed of a confirmed case on January 21 (6 weeks prior). He lied.

March 5: World Health Organization (WHO) based on data collected around the world stated the global mortality rate for coronavirus at 3. 4%. Trump says:"I think the 3. 4 % is really a false number, this is just my "Hunch"! (Hunch over Facts in Trumps world).

Mar 5: "The United States. Has, as of now, only 129 cases. And 11 deaths. We are working very hard to keep these numbers as low as possible!

Mar 6: "I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it. Every one of these doctors said, 'How do you know so much about this?' Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president. ".

Mar 6: "I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't our fault. ".

March 6: As the number of cases and deaths in Italy rises, Trump says.

"I hear the numbers getting much better in Italy" Another Lie.

March 6: Trump falsely claims anybody can get tested if they want. That wasn't true. There were an insufficient number of tests available, as Pence said the day prior, and Americans could not get tested simply because they wanted to get tested. "You may not get a test unless a doctor or public health official prescribes a test.

March 6: Trump baselessly muses that "maybe" the coronavirus improved US jobs numbers, Trump never thinks in terms of people and families losing lives. Just numbers to boost his ego.

March 7th. Trump golfs.

March 8th. Trump golfs.

March 8th - "We have a perfectly coordinated and fine-tuned plan at the White House for our attack on CoronaVirus. ".

March 9th - "This blindsided the world. ".

March 9th Stock Market Crash Part I.

March 11: Trump TV speech wrongly states Insurance companies will pay for patients Coronavirus treatment. Next day Insurance Coalition corrected Trump and said they will pay ONLY for Co-payments, NOT Treatment. Big Difference!

March 11: Trump TV speech wrongly states his Travel Ban to Europe will "apply to the tremendous amount of trade and large". Next day White House Officials corrected Trump misinformation and said" Travel ban will NOT include trade! Trumps can't even read a Teleprompter correctly.

March 11: Trump's Ban to Europe does NOT include Britain and Scotland, were there are more confirmed coronavirus cases than in some European countries.

For those of you complaining about Trump being blamed for the coronavirus / COVID-19 pandemic:

I thought I would post a little history lesson for everyone on both sides of the political divide. I think it's important that we understand the truth, especially come November when it's time to vote. Forgive the length, but hey, we all have time on our hands to read, correct?

In December 2013, an 18-month-old boy in Guinea was bitten by a bat and died a brutal death a day later. After that, there were five more fatal cases. When Ebola spread out of the Guinea borders into neighboring Liberia and Sierra Leone in July 2014, President Obama activated the Emergency Operations Center at the Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta. The CDC immediately deployed CDC personnel to West Africa to coordinate a response that included vector tracing, testing, education, logistics, and communication.

Altogether, the CDC, under President Obama, trained 24,655 medical workers in West Africa, educating them on how to prevent and control the disease before a single case left Africa or reached the USA.

Working with the you. And. And the World Health Organization President Obama ordered the re-routing of travelers heading to the USA Through certain specific airports equipped to handle mass testing.

Back home in America, more than 6,500 people were trained through mock outbreaks and practice scenarios. That was done before a single case hit America.

Three months after President Obama activated this unprecedented response, on September 30,2014, we detected our first case in the USA A man had traveled from West Africa to Dallas and somehow slipped through the testing protocol. He was immediately detected and isolated. He died a week later. Two nurses who tended to him contracted Ebola but later recovered. All the protocols had worked. It was contained.

The Ebola epidemic could have easily become a pandemic, but thanks to the actions of our government under President Obama, it never did. Those THREE EBOLA CONFIRMED CASES were the ONLY cases of Ebola in the USA Because Obama did what needed to be done THREE MONTHS PRIOR TO THE FIRST CASE.

Ebola is even more contagious than COVID-19. Had Obama not acted swiftly, millions of Americans would have died horrible, painful, deaths like something out of a horror movie (if you've never seen how Ebola kills, it's horrific).

It is ironic because since President Obama acted decisively we forget about his actions since the disease never reached our shores.

Now the story of COVID-19 and Trump's response that we know about thus far:

Before anyone even knew about the disease (even in China) Trump disbanded the pandemic response team that Obama had put in place. He cut funding to the CDC, and he cut our contribution to the World Health Organization (WHO).

Trump fired Rear Admiral Timothy Ziemer, the person on the National Security Council in charge of stopping the spread of infectious diseases before they reach our country. A position created by the Obama administration.

When the outbreak started in China, Trump assumed it was China's problem and sent no research, supplies or help of any kind. We were in a trade war, why should he help them?

In January he received a briefing from our intelligence organizations that the outbreak was much worse than China was admitting and that it would definitely hit our country if something wasn't done to prevent it. He ignored the report, not trusting our own intelligence.

When the disease spread to Europe, the World Health Organization offered a plethora of tests to the United States. Trump turned them down, saying private companies here would make the tests "better" if we needed them. However, he never ordered USA Companies to make tests and they had no profit motive to do so on their own.

According to scientists at Yale and several public university medical schools, when they asked for permission to start working on our own testing protocol and potential treatments or vaccines, they were denied by Trump's FDA.

When Trump knew about the first case in the United States he did nothing. It was just one case and the patient was isolated. When doctors and scientists started screaming in the media that this was a mistake, Trump claimed it was a "liberal hoax" conjured up to try to make him "look bad after impeachment failed. ".

The next time Trump spoke of COVID-19, we had SIXTY-FOUR CONFIRMED CASES but Trump went before microphones and told the American public that we only had FIFTEEN cases "and pretty soon that number will be close to zero. " All while the disease was spreading, he took no action to get more tests.

What Trump did was to stop flights from China from coming here. This was too late and accomplished nothing according to scientists and doctors. By then the disease was worldwide and was already spreading exponentially in the USA By Americans, not Chinese people as Trump would like you to believe.

[QUOTE=NewDude;4878045]For anyone interested, I'm in the medical field. Delusional Americans and republican ghouls are asking you to trust a conman, and people who admit they're not a news organization, and ignore scientist, doctors, and other medical personnel that see what's going on. It's getting bad here in Atlanta guys, and it will be very bad in the next 30 days if a legitimate treatment is cleared soon. Remdesvir is barely better than a placebo at this point without more data to analyze. Be very careful, and don't listen to any idiot that tells you to ignore the people that decided to study science and pay an outrageous amount of money for secondary education only to get raped by taxes in the US, all so they can treat and help sick people. We will all know why China was burning bodied very soon if people continue to be idiots.[/QUOTE]I used to work in the medical field and I agree with your sentiments 100%.

Anyone who isn't a Low IQ Deplorable partisan swamp rat is going to listen to medical professionals and expert epidemiologists like Fauci before they listen to a lying piece of shit like Trump and Pence.

Hell yeah I'm wearing a mask every time I step outside. I aint no weak pussy that needs to b*tch and moan about a flimsy piece of fabric or cloth on my face for a couple hours. How did a previous American generation endure the Great Depression and work overtime shifts every day for 4 years fighting the Nazis and Japanese, but our generation of crybaby Boomers and Gen X'ers can't even wear a mask when they go to a public place? I really hate these MAGA Pussies calling themselves Americans. I wasn't raised to be a crybaby and a spineless cuck. I was raised to be a tough Democrat mofo and damn proud of it.

[QUOTE=RedneckStud;4878370]Under Team Orange, the US Treasury racked up a RECORD deficit of over $800 billion in June.[/QUOTE]Orange Lying Scumbag calls this "winning" LOL.

I will laugh until my dying days whenever I hear the oft-repeated myth that Republicans are for "small government and small debt". Between Dubya's illegal war in Iraq and Trump's mind-boggling incompetence, America has racked up over 8 or 9 trillion in debt and economic losses over three terms of those two clowns. Both of them were businessmen that supposedly knew how to run an economy better than Democrats, can you believe that horse shit?

[QUOTE=AaronHamlet;4878167]Only listen to the educated idiots who went in debt $100,000's for an education. Fauci, exec staff at CDC, NIH, WHO, etc.[/QUOTE]This is the mindset of the Deplorable Swamp Rats. Low IQ idiots who were too afraid to take chemistry and physics in high school and now bitter at "elites" who have the job security, six-figure salaries and nice homes in posh neighborhoods.

The Democrat-centric urban centers are becoming larger every year and rural and small town America is dying off. The MAGA-Sheep are losing all their job opportunities. They deserve all the pain and misery coming their way if they keep voting for selfish billionaires who don't give a squirt of piss about them except pushing their ideology.

[QUOTE=Admin2;4877857]Back in April when people were dying all you heard about was "death count" now that hardly anybody (and yes, 1000 people a day in the USA is hardly anybody)[/QUOTE]This could be one of the most ignorant things I ever read on this board.

If a 1000 people a day were dying from airline crashes they would ground all air traffic within a few hours.

[QUOTE=Ozymandias;4877040]It's not, though. The protests (to my surprise) have resulted in very few infection cases, I assume because the protests are outside[/QUOTE]You must be an idiot to believe this bullshit.

Let me guess, you must be watching CNN all day long.