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[QUOTE=Ozymandias;3291398]This sums up why I have no interest in grinding one out with a lapdance.
I either go to VIP for proper FS or get a room for later: my loads empty into a mouth or a vagina, pretty much. Waste Management 101!
O.[/QUOTE]So when you do go to the VIP what are you doing with the rubber or do you CIP?
Well fellows I really don't know if I've built up any credibility with you guys with my numerous postings over the past year. I've always try to put my best effort forward in providing do not fuck with information to you guys on ho'$ that'll either phuck you out your money or get you hurt. With that said here are two strippers that work at Strokers that'll phuck you out your money within time. And I strongly recommend you avoid them unless you're comfortable with paying unnecessary money for some shit they never did for you. Now this never happened to me with them but I saw it happened with plenty of other patrons.
The light skin woman name is Melody and the Dark Skinned lady goes by Kat. Both been let go from other clubs due to customers complaining about them hustling them out of their money.
[QUOTE=PeteAppleSeed;3291329]I don't mean to be indiscreet but when you guys get a bare grind to completion what do you do about all the man goo?
And if you get a covered service what do you do with the rubber?[/QUOTE]In my experience, if it's a bare grind its usually from a women with huge booty cheeks so I let the dancer take care of that she usually knows what's up when she feels all the wetness between them cheeks! By the way has anyone seen NY from babes lately?
[QUOTE=PeteAppleSeed;3291329]I don't mean to be indiscreet but when you guys get a bare grind to completion what do you do about all the man goo?
And if you get a covered service what do you do with the rubber?[/QUOTE]I've actually only been grinded to full completion once, and that was during my negative experience at pinups that I reported.
The big booty dancer clearly told me "don't nut on my booty!
I did not listen, because after my hotdog got lost between her big, deep, soft, and ghetto cheeks: I couldn't bother to hold the load back.
She had to feel the wetness, though she only made a scene about the unexpected upsell (which I was unwilling to pay!
Plus she was dark-skinned, so plain white batter shows up very easily on her booty.
I never noticed her wipe anything, then again I did have a few too many brews and I had come solo.
Note to self: don't drink more than 3 brews if traveling solo.
In retrospect, God must have been looking out for me that day because 2 reasons.
1) I did not get my butt kicked by the 6'6 300 lb bouncers.
2) the uncle that stopped me did NOT give me a piece of paper. Even though he clearly stated disappointment with my excuse and we were both different shades. I view pale uncle LEO's differently now, so thankful he had mercy.
1) I was able to weasel the snake out on the sky during a dance, without discussing it with the dancer first? What's the worst that could happen?
Do you think she would yell for security, or just scold me?
I remember once at a club in fort Lauderdale (the lexx / luxx or rolexx I think), I was pushing my luck since on vacation in a new area. I weaseled the snake out during VIP when I was very close to releasing and soaked her booty. She was a tall and thick Amazon type, she turned around quick with an attitude and said "10 extra for that stunt you just pulled!
I gave what was asked and that was the end of that. Do you think it could have possibly gone differently in a negative way?
It's a silly question, but give me some insight here. I wonder if I dodged a bullet that day.
So I see a lot of reports about Follies as if we haven't been there (we know where the ATM is). Here is my take on the current trends. Some girls from Oasis are now appearing at Follies. Day shift is packed at 2 pm on the weekend. Still. Anyone notice that there are a lot of Hispanic girls that are from Miami (so they say) and speak little English. No issue there but just an observation, they don't mind dancing with anyone for the most part. I think this started in the past 6 months.
Also, is any other club reaching Follies level. I used to like the more "mixed" clubs like Oasis or Mardis Gras, but they are now pretty sad with bad / horribly chatty air dances. And I used to like Flashers, I guess it is still shutdown. I hate to say it, but you might as well go to a regular dance club.
[QUOTE=Ozymandias;3274598]Yes, it boggles the mind sometimes.
They don't make nearly as much now as they used to; the Cheetah girls I roomed with in the 90's (when I was in grad school at Tech) usually made $500-1000 a night, and this was before the era of "extras"; and they never had a dime. They'd come up with rent, because they could just work a night and boom, there was rent, but they never had savings of any kind.
In the mid 2000's, there were a few Laotian chicks (they all knew each other from Riverdale HS and all decided to be strippers together) working at Pink Pony. My main one, "Teyah", a tiny little spinner, was always broke, though she admitted she'd made about half a million dollars working at PP (over a 4-5 year period). I asked her if she could come up with $10,000, and if she did, I'd let her in on a business deal as a cash partner, and that I could guarantee she'd double her money in 30 days; I'd just go ahead and cover her risk 100%. Duh, a no brainer (since she knew I was good for it), but never even came close to scraping it together. To be honest, I knew she wouldn't, which was why I offered to cover her risk, but it was still an interesting experiment. She could suck a dick, at least!
I have known exactly one stripper who actually approached the thing intelligently. She worked at Shooter Alley about 15 years ago (not the best money club), and had a few rules: she never met clients outside the club (I knew her through other strippers, so I was never a client), and she didn't get involved in stripper drama or politics; she kept it business like and "real". She kept records of all her earnings and expenses, banked them, and payed quarterly estimated taxes (I assume she filed a schedule C); this allowed her to actually use her money, maximizing Roth contributions and whatever else "legit" earners can do, so her money could work for her. She didn't live the stripper lifestyle, so she saved loads of money. She'd been at it a few years, so she had a good credit rating and a financial history, so she could actually finance a car (versus the typical beater strippers drive around in) and buy a house (easier then, with no doc loans for self-employed folks). AND she was an actual student, learning job skills (I can't recall what). Most importantly, she had a "quit" date, after which she would be done stripping. And she did it, coming out the other end with actual wealth, the stripper version of a "one percenter", I guess.
O.[/QUOTE]I still don't think you can get rich off of stripping, no matter how much you bring in. Think about a regular job. Even a person making 100 k maybe brings in about 5000 a month after taxes and other fees. So you are talking about maybe 2000-2500 for car and rent in Atlanta. So you have about 3000 for anything else. Well, then you add in food / restaurants, blah, blah, maybe you have 1500 left over for savings. Now that is steady income at 100 k.
A stripper will get (let's say high end), let's say they get 1000 at the end of a night, I bet only 600 goes to themselves. And that is a good night, I bet half goes to booze and drugs. So that is probably 3000 a month. Not bad, but you need health insurance, that is minus 200 dollars. Car is 200-300, then rent in 1000-1500. Shit adds up in Atlanta and stripping isn't stead money. You may a good night or month, you probably blow it on partying. Even if you save it, not everyday or month is good.
Now, that is the worst case scenario, maybe there are smart, succesfull strippers, I would hate them, because they are taking my money, hehe. But I think most of them make the money and burn it.
My previous report on Follies stated that most of the Latino women working inside of that club is from the Dominican Republic. I can tell by their facial futures and also by the type of Spanish they speak.
[QUOTE=Galtor;3291869]So I see a lot of reports about Follies as if we haven't been there (we know where the ATM is). Here is my take on the current trends. Some girls from Oasis are now appearing at Follies. Day shift is packed at 2 pm on the weekend. Still. Anyone notice that there are a lot of Hispanic girls that are from Miami (so they say) and speak little English. No issue there but just an observation, they don't mind dancing with anyone for the most part. I think this started in the past 6 months.
Also, is any other club reaching Follies level. I used to like the more "mixed" clubs like Oasis or Mardis Gras, but they are now pretty sad with bad / horribly chatty air dances. And I used to like Flashers, I guess it is still shutdown. I hate to say it, but you might as well go to a regular dance club.[/QUOTE]
I thought Blue Flame and Pin Ups was the smokers clubs of metro Atlanta.
[QUOTE=TallGuy3000;3283249]Is Strokers as smokey as Follies? When I go to Follies I have to take along a change of clothes and shower before I go home to remain on the DL.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Galtor;3291869]So I see a lot of reports about Follies as if we haven't been there (we know where the ATM is). Here is my take on the current trends. Some girls from Oasis are now appearing at Follies. Day shift is packed at 2 pm on the weekend. Still. Anyone notice that there are a lot of Hispanic girls that are from Miami (so they say) and speak little English. No issue there but just an observation, they don't mind dancing with anyone for the most part. I think this started in the past 6 months.
Also, is any other club reaching Follies level. I used to like the more "mixed" clubs like Oasis or Mardis Gras, but they are now pretty sad with bad / horribly chatty air dances. And I used to like Flashers, I guess it is still shutdown. I hate to say it, but you might as well go to a regular dance club.[/QUOTE]I noticed the same too, some of these girls claiming they Cuban and hardly speak any English BUT the one I was with knew how to please the guys, very nice stick shifting, and she let me suck on her nice tits. Next to time I hope to get a grind from them with my play thing out.
[QUOTE=TimBuckTwo;3291736]In my experience, if it's a bare grind its usually from a women with huge booty cheeks so I let the dancer take care of that she usually knows what's up when she feels all the wetness between them cheeks! By the way has anyone seen NY from babes lately?[/QUOTE]Haven't seen NY since the latest round of (unnecessary) renovations at Babes. Why they keep messing with the place, I have no idea.
[QUOTE=TimBuckTwo;3291736]In my experience, if it's a bare grind its usually from a women with huge booty cheeks so I let the dancer take care of that she usually knows what's up when she feels all the wetness between them cheeks! By the way has anyone seen NY from babes lately?[/QUOTE]Is a bare grind the same thing as a stripper slide? Skin on skin?
[QUOTE=TimBuckTwo;3291736]In my experience, if it's a bare grind its usually from a women with huge booty cheeks so I let the dancer take care of that she usually knows what's up when she feels all the wetness between them cheeks! By the way has anyone seen NY from babes lately?[/QUOTE]I haven't seen her in over 6 months, miss her super size fake bubble butt. Lot of the girls from babes have left, but I haven't seen them around at other clubs, may have moved to other cities. There was one thick good grinder by name Monae, haven't seen her either.
[QUOTE=PeteAppleSeed;3291329]I don't mean to be indiscreet but when you guys get a bare grind to completion what do you do about all the man goo?
And if you get a covered service what do you do with the rubber?[/QUOTE]In addition to what I owe her for dances, I'll usually give a $20.00 tip for clean up.
[QUOTE=PeteAppleSeed;3291423]So when you do go to the VIP what are you doing with the rubber or do you CIP?[/QUOTE]In my experience the stripper always took the condom & discarded it.
CIP in VIP can be pretty messy too, since their usually either straddling you or kind of reverse straddling, so when they lift off it'll pour out in your lap; condom is generally the move in VIP LOL.
O.
". Was able to get into her glovebox and trunk".
Earlier you were talking about stick shifting. Then you're talking about gloveboxes and trunks. So you got HJ+FS? Or is all this referring to HJ+grindage?
[QUOTE=NotWright;3290423]I went to Follies yesterday at 11:30 am and Strokers today at 2:00 pm. Completely different experiences, but had the same result.
I got to Follies before the valet guy, so parking was free. The chick behind the glass told me admission was whatever tip I want to put in the jar, and then she gave me a nice frisk. The place was really dark, just like I like them. It was also packed, walked around a bit and settled in next to the couches. Had several sweet young things come up to me and ask if I was ready for a dance. Love the "hand shakes" they all gave me, so did Mr Willy. However, all them said dances were $10 each. Settled on a bigger chick with huge melons. Got two dances. She was good. I didn't need any more. Went and sat at the bar to have a drink, but they were more interested in talking than serving. Which is fine, I like the chill atmosphere. I was in and out in 45 minutes and $23 lighter, but very satisfied. The only disappointing part, if you say it was disappointing, is that it wasn't a challenge. There wasn't any hunt. All the girls were very friendly and very accommodating.
Today I had a meeting near the Pounce City Market, and I intended to hit the Clairmount afterwards, yeah I know, but every once in a while you need to be really trashy. Guess what, they're tearing down the building! No idea if they moved, but they are gone.
So I headed up 78 to Strokers. Had a similar experience getting in, but not as nice of a frisk. Guy told me the cover was whatever I put in the tip jar. The atmosphere was totally different. Very relaxed, but lit up like a runway. It didn't matter, no body cared what you did. Dances were $5, got four from a tall thin chick who said she loves driving a stick shift, and she knew how to shift it. Was able to get into her glovebox and trunk. Result was the same as Follies $23 and 45 minutes, but more dances for the money at Strokers.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BigMoney21;3291927]My previous report on Follies stated that most of the Latino women working inside of that club is from the Dominican Republic. I can tell by their facial futures and also by the type of Spanish they speak.[/QUOTE]From my experience they are from usually from the Dominican Republic or Honduras, though occasionally there will be Colombian or Mexican dancers.
How much for FS and who would you recommend? I love big booty bitches, they are life! I would love to check it out tonight.
[QUOTE=JSlay42;3286774]Had a good experience a couple weeks back. $5 dances all night. $10 cover. $10 to park. If you like line fine big booty ebony girls like me this is your spot. I was the only white dude in the joint and was completely mobbed by the hot Nubian freaks. Lots of 2 on 1 dances with lots of stick shifting and my hands roamed freely on every girl in the club with no resistance. 420 is abundant in this club if that's your thing. I will defiantly be back soon. Not the fanciest club but the girls were hot and very receptive. Basically everyone I encountered offered OTC activities and I have already participated in a couple. LOL. Happy hunting.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Galtor;3291879]I still don't think you can get rich off of stripping, no matter how much you bring in. Think about a regular job. Even a person making 100 k maybe brings in about 5000 a month after taxes and other fees. So you are talking about maybe 2000-2500 for car and rent in Atlanta. So you have about 3000 for anything else. Well, then you add in food / restaurants, blah, blah, maybe you have 1500 left over for savings. Now that is steady income at 100 k.
A stripper will get (let's say high end), let's say they get 1000 at the end of a night, I bet only 600 goes to themselves. And that is a good night, I bet half goes to booze and drugs. So that is probably 3000 a month. Not bad, but you need health insurance, that is minus 200 dollars. Car is 200-300, then rent in 1000-1500. Shit adds up in Atlanta and stripping isn't stead money. You may a good night or month, you probably blow it on partying. Even if you save it, not everyday or month is good.
Now, that is the worst case scenario, maybe there are smart, succesfull strippers, I would hate them, because they are taking my money, hehe. But I think most of them make the money and burn it.[/QUOTE]Well, remember what some of the mongers posted.
There are a lot of those chicks that pay their way through law school and college, etc.
The problem most of them run into, is that they have kids by some thug. Or they smoke a lot of pot, which burns a lot of money. Or they just waste a lot of it on clothes and shoes, designer purses, etc.
Basically, all strippers would be rich if they didn't do any drugs and don't waste cash on expensive designer clothing.
Even if they saved only 2 days of work out of the week, they would be rich.
The slave class laborers who make 7. 25 an hour, don't even take home 600 every 2 weeks; but the average stripper is taking 500 a night on the regular!
That's why I have no sympathy for the broke ones. Also add in the fact that they do extras inside and outside of the club for older established men who drop major cash on them. Some of them are sugar babies too.
Man these women have it made!! Yet women are always complaining about being oppressed, or some other bs. Yea right, all a chick has to do is jump on a pole or hop on Backpage and her money issues are solved.
The power of the kitty trumps everything, especially when it comes to rich old men. But it is what it is, I would still rather be a man.
I'm young, so I still have a chance to become rich! Though you won't catch me dropping 300 or more on any of these birds, even if I was Bill Gates.
Even SW make big money too, I remember Keisha's (with the jumbo Juggs on Glenwood) boyfriend went to jail and she needed 450 more chips to bail him out.
I was hanging with her outside buddy's chatting and smoking 420. At the end of the night she showed me 400 chips she had made within 3 hours.
Old men of all races were swooping in and dropping 80 bones or more, she just ignored the low ballers and only went for the high paying older men.
I noticed how long she spent with each monger. Sometimes an old guy would pick her up and drop her back off in under 20 minutes, and she said they all gave at least 80.
Wow, 80 bones for only 20 minutes. Some of the cars had handicapped stickers on the plates. The older guys pay a lot more and they seemed to finish the session very fast.
It is what it is. Men have to work hard for the paper, women seriously have it easy. Oh well, LOL.
Oh and another thing about dancers:
If they don't take care of their body, then they get trapped in the game when they reach 30's. Because they can't compete as well with the younger girls.
So some of them waste the cash and become old. Then realize they don't make as much anymore, but a young attractive girl can really rake in the dough!
[URL]http://investigations.blog.ajc.com/2017/03/03/prostitution-drugs-racketeering-alleged-against-atlanta-strip-club/?ecmp=socialflow_ajclife[/URL]
Anyone get any action at cheetahs?
[QUOTE=PhilMe143;3294212][URL]http://investigations.blog.ajc.com/2017/03/03/prostitution-drugs-racketeering-alleged-against-atlanta-strip-club/?ecmp=socialflow_ajclife[/URL]
Anyone get any action at cheetahs?[/QUOTE]This sounds just like the Gold Club accusations. Iirc, they got the gold club for tax evasion. [URL]http://edition.cnn.com/2001/LAW/06/15/gold.club.trial/[/URL].
[QUOTE=PhilMe143;3294212][URL]http://investigations.blog.ajc.com/2017/03/03/prostitution-drugs-racketeering-alleged-against-atlanta-strip-club/?ecmp=socialflow_ajclife[/URL]
Anyone get any action at cheetahs?[/QUOTE]I've probably fucked 50, maybe up to 70 Cheetah girls, so they make up the lion's share of my stripper tags, but nothing was every set up by the club.
That said, while I don't really think the Cheetah has some kind of secret pussy pipeline for high rollers (they just don't need to), I wouldn't be surprised if they did.
Indeed, if a strip club is involved in anything, from drugs, to prostitution, to murder-for-hire, it's never actually going to be *surprising*!
O.
[QUOTE=Joesouncool;3294239]This sounds just like the Gold Club accusations. Iirc, they got the gold club for tax evasion. [URL]http://edition.cnn.com/2001/LAW/06/15/gold.club.trial/[/URL].[/QUOTE]Gold club was different; that was flat-out a mob-owned club.
I actually called their main office once (I can't recall why), and it was nothing but Italian on the other end.
The big thing that got folks talking there was less strippers for rent than it was credit card fraud; it came out that the Gold Club was padding customer tabs with fake charges, writing in bigger tips, and so on.
O.
[QUOTE=Joesouncool;3294239]This sounds just like the Gold Club accusations. Iirc, they got the gold club for tax evasion. [URL]http://edition.cnn.com/2001/LAW/06/15/gold.club.trial/[/URL].[/QUOTE]When will these Adult businesses ever learn that it's always the "disgruntled former employee" that will end up fucking them over in the end.
And so I was dumb to hit 285 west going from Sandy Springs to Fulton Ind Blvd. It took me 2 and hours starting at 345 pm due to the massive accident of a Semi at South Atlanta Rd. I had to go I had to go. No cover before 7 and good folks. Had a few dances with 3 slim to thick babes, lot of grinding and stick shifting. One of them goes by name Ritz an ebony curvy model was real good grinder dot on the mark. In at 6 pm out by 715 pm. They played full songs and the 5 dollar dances went further. This time I was below budget so felt good actually driving back no remorse.
Thinking of hitting some hole in the wall spots this weekend, just to knock them off the atlanta strip club list. So clermont lounge, foxy lady is on the list of places. If there is another message me. I've been to eyecandy although I wouldn't call that a strip club, more of an after club spot with naked females. It was very dead around midnight the one time I went there. Ill update tomorrow night.
Made it to foxy on moreland last night. Wow, and not in a great surprise type of way. It was dark and pretty empty for a Friday night. Older black strippers mostly, did see one short younger one but she was getting ready to leave when I got there.
Dances were 5 so that's cool, some let you roam freely others kept moving my hands. Drinks are reasonable. Pretty much sit where ever you want or feel you need privacy at, I chose the spot near the exit and near the dressing room, less traffic. Overall it was just dead in there but the parking lot was full although small. Outside visits are ok with some others said no so its playing it by ear. Will I repeat? Probably just to see if there are any new chicks without cigarette burns and bullet wounds.
[QUOTE=ImBroke2;3294866]Thinking of hitting some hole in the wall spots this weekend, just to knock them off the atlanta strip club list. So clermont lounge, foxy lady is on the list of places. If there is another message me. I've been to eyecandy although I wouldn't call that a strip club, more of an after club spot with naked females. It was very dead around midnight the one time I went there. Ill update tomorrow night.[/QUOTE]Clermont might still be closed for remodeling.
[QUOTE=ImBroke2;3295416]Made it to foxy on moreland last night. Wow, and not in a great surprise type of way. It was dark and pretty empty for a Friday night. Older black strippers mostly, did see one short younger one but she was getting ready to leave when I got there.
Dances were 5 so that's cool, some let you roam freely others kept moving my hands. Drinks are reasonable. Pretty much sit where ever you want or feel you need privacy at, I chose the spot near the exit and near the dressing room, less traffic. Overall it was just dead in there but the parking lot was full although small. Outside visits are ok with some others said no so its playing it by ear. Will I repeat? Probably just to see if there are any new chicks without cigarette burns and bullet wounds.[/QUOTE]We're the older women thick? I don't mind bullet wounds / rough faces or older women. As long as they have a big meaty booty and we are not getting married.
Please let me know how they were shaped.
[QUOTE=Galtor;3291879]I still don't think you can get rich off of stripping, no matter how much you bring in. Think about a regular job. Even a person making 100 k maybe brings in about 5000 a month after taxes and other fees. So you are talking about maybe 2000-2500 for car and rent in Atlanta. So you have about 3000 for anything else. Well, then you add in food / restaurants, blah, blah, maybe you have 1500 left over for savings. Now that is steady income at 100 k.
A stripper will get (let's say high end), let's say they get 1000 at the end of a night, I bet only 600 goes to themselves. And that is a good night, I bet half goes to booze and drugs. So that is probably 3000 a month. Not bad, but you need health insurance, that is minus 200 dollars. Car is 200-300, then rent in 1000-1500. Shit adds up in Atlanta and stripping isn't stead money. You may a good night or month, you probably blow it on partying. Even if you save it, not everyday or month is good.
Now, that is the worst case scenario, maybe there are smart, succesfull strippers, I would hate them, because they are taking my money, hehe. But I think most of them make the money and burn it.[/QUOTE]Couple of clarifications (not being argumentative, rather being informative, I'm a CPA and well versed in taxes. I've done tax work for a LOT of adult entertainers):
Tax rate for someone making $100 K would depend on what deduction / exemptions they have, their taxable income would be less, possibly much less. Even if you include GA state tax and FICA, tax rate won't be anywhere near 40% as you indicate. Too many variables to discuss in more depth, but their take home would more than likely be more than $5 K / month.
I stopped doing tax returns for entertainers because, although I didn't sign the returns as a paid preparer (payment was in differing types of "services"), I didn't want to be involved in something where I knew they weren't being completely truthful or accurate and I requested documentation for certain expenses. One former "client" a very popular entertainer at the Cheetah in the early to mid-90's, actually DEPOSITED over $140 K one year (I never figured out the math), but she insisted that her tax return only show (if memory serves correct) $65 K. If she were ever audited, no way could the logic of that situation be explained. I put her in touch with some real estate people (she bought 2 houses and started renting them out), a tax attorney (she didn't have attorney / client protection with me), they set up different accounts and the such. She got incorporated as a business, had legitimate deductions for outfits, health insurance, etc. And did quite well for herself.
She was a brilliant business person and a beautiful woman.
All that being said (and remembering her fondly), I also dealt with some entertainers that were dumber than a box of rocks. One told me to deduct her drugs (not the legal kind) as a business expense because she needed them before she danced. That relationship didn't last long.
Another commentary:
In a midwestern state, many years ago when I was a poor college student, I visited a strip club with some friends. None of us had much cash, nor did we know how the game was played.
There was one dancer, pretty face, but not that great of a body (perhaps 7/10), but not bad. For some reason, maybe I had too much to drink, I kept staring at her eyes while she danced near us. She ended up sitting with us and asking me why I wasn't staring at her body. I made some lame excuse about the eyes being the pathway to the soul or something else. Frankly, I just didn't want to be seen as just ogling her body. This was many years ago and I was in my early 20's. I didn't know any better.
She was dancing to make money to go to chiropractic school. We dated for several months before she went away to chiro school in another state. Last I checked, probably 25+/- years ago, she owned 4 chiropractic centers.
Report doesn't mean much, just made me feel good thinking about her.
[QUOTE=GeorgeGA;3296010]Couple of clarifications (not being argumentative, rather being informative, I'm a CPA and well versed in taxes. I've done tax work for a LOT of adult entertainers):
Tax rate for someone making $100 K would depend on what deduction / exemptions they have, their taxable income would be less, possibly much less. Even if you include GA state tax and FICA, tax rate won't be anywhere near 40% as you indicate. Too many variables to discuss in more depth, but their take home would more than likely be more than $5 K / month.
............[/QUOTE]George, It was interesting reading your take being a tax pro. We are just about getting done with taxes season on.
[QUOTE=ImBroke2;3295416]Made it to foxy on moreland last night. Wow, and not in a great surprise type of way. It was dark and pretty empty for a Friday night. Older black strippers mostly, did see one short younger one but she was getting ready to leave when I got there.
Dances were 5 so that's cool, some let you roam freely others kept moving my hands. Drinks are reasonable. Pretty much sit where ever you want or feel you need privacy at, I chose the spot near the exit and near the dressing room, less traffic. Overall it was just dead in there but the parking lot was full although small. Outside visits are ok with some others said no so its playing it by ear. Will I repeat? Probably just to see if there are any new chicks without cigarette burns and bullet wounds.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the update. This is one of the run down true hole in the wall. Been there once and had similar experience as you stated. Only advantage is lot of roaming over scars and burns.
It is the first weekend of the month, so supposedly strippers will be more flexible trying to earn the extra dollars for rent. Wonder how far its true?
[QUOTE=GeorgeGA;3296010]Couple of clarifications (not being argumentative, rather being informative, I'm a CPA and well versed in taxes. I've done tax work for a LOT of adult entertainers):
One told me to deduct her drugs (not the legal kind) as a business expense because she needed them before she danced. That relationship didn't last long.[/QUOTE]Now that's funny. I just took a sip of coffee when I read that last line, it almost ended up on my keyboard. That being said, I am not an accountant, but I do have an MBA I do taxes for friends I never even considered the idea of trading favor for favor during tax season. I think I'll give it a shot.
[QUOTE=GeorgeGA;3296010]Couple of clarifications (not being argumentative, rather being informative, I'm a CPA and well versed in taxes. I've done tax work for a LOT of adult entertainers):
Tax rate for someone making $100 K would depend on what deduction / exemptions they have, their taxable income would be less, possibly much less. Even if you include GA state tax and FICA, tax rate won't be anywhere near 40% as you indicate. Too many variables to discuss in more depth, but their take home would more than likely be more than $5 K / month.
I stopped doing tax returns for entertainers because, although I didn't sign the returns as a paid preparer (payment was in differing types of "services"), I didn't want to be involved in something where I knew they weren't being completely truthful or accurate and I requested documentation for certain expenses. One former "client" a very popular entertainer at the Cheetah in the early to mid-90's, actually DEPOSITED over $140 K one year (I never figured out the math), but she insisted that her tax return only show (if memory serves correct) $65 K. If she were ever audited, no way could the logic of that situation be explained. I put her in touch with some real estate people (she bought 2 houses and started renting them out), a tax attorney (she didn't have attorney / client protection with me), they set up different accounts and the such. She got incorporated as a business, had legitimate deductions for outfits, health insurance, etc. And did quite well for herself.
She was a brilliant business person and a beautiful woman.
All that being said (and remembering her fondly), I also dealt with some entertainers that were dumber than a box of rocks. One told me to deduct her drugs (not the legal kind) as a business expense because she needed them before she danced. That relationship didn't last long.[/QUOTE]Haha George yea I know what you mean bro I'm a overseas contractor and the stories that these guys tell me about what they file for as far as deductions are out of this world!
[QUOTE=ImBroke2;3295416]Made it to foxy on moreland last night. Wow, and not in a great surprise type of way. It was dark and pretty empty for a Friday night. Older black strippers mostly, did see one short younger one but she was getting ready to leave when I got there.
Dances were 5 so that's cool, some let you roam freely others kept moving my hands. Drinks are reasonable. Pretty much sit where ever you want or feel you need privacy at, I chose the spot near the exit and near the dressing room, less traffic. Overall it was just dead in there but the parking lot was full although small. Outside visits are ok with some others said no so its playing it by ear. Will I repeat? Probably just to see if there are any new chicks without cigarette burns and bullet wounds.[/QUOTE]I took a trip to Foxy's last year and man that place was a dump! As you pull up you see cars every where like the place is going to be packed. When you go inside survey says Thumbs Down! These chicks stomachs and asses are both the same size. It looks crazy as hell to see a chick with a big ass and a even bigger stomach. The cutest one in there at the time was the bartender. She said. Any if I were you I'd go down the road to Club Blaze. I tipped her $10 said thanks and hit the road to Blaze.
Come to Nashville, all our strip clubs suck.
[QUOTE=DurandPaul;3285198]My girl wants to go to a strip club with me. Probably not a good sign. I don't want to take her to a spot like follies, Pinups, babes or Wax. Those are the spots I like but.
I don't want to go there with my girl because once she sees a dancer grabbing a dick that will be the end of me going to a strip club without her whining.
Can someone recommend a strip club? In greenville sc there is Lust Strip Club that fits what I am looking for.
Pretty much I am looking for a strip club (mostly black dancers) that has nice seating areas, girls don't bother you and no chance to see suspicious activities on the dance floor.
No fully nude spot too.[/QUOTE]Come.
CC.
Bmat, its funny you made those comments about the dancers at Foxy Lady. When I first visited that location I noticed the same thing. The dancers azz and stomach's were both big. And they look both over the top ugly and ratchet. Theres always a bunch of cars in the parking lot but the club doesn't be that busy on the inside. Foxy Lady is truly a mess and that's a straight up summary of that strip club.
[QUOTE=Bmat84;3296432]I took a trip to Foxy's last year and man that place was a dump! As you pull up you see cars every where like the place is going to be packed. When you go inside survey says Thumbs Down! These chicks stomachs and asses are both the same size. It looks crazy as hell to see a chick with a big ass and a even bigger stomach. The cutest one in there at the time was the bartender. She said. Any if I were you I'd go down the road to Club Blaze. I tipped her $10 said thanks and hit the road to Blaze.[/QUOTE]