Rants and Raves

[QUOTE=Joesouncool;5760269]There aren't any. You Google for all of this stuff and it never comes up. I found some stuff behind a paywall, but it was just more claims and nothing actually done under oath with evidence.[/QUOTE]Lying comes easy to you. This is the third or fourth time you lied about this. Your old fat ass picked up any hot strippers lately, took them home and banged then w / o paying a dime?

[QUOTE=AaronHamlet;5748559]Disinformation and reading comprehension issues for you again, Joe. It's a pattern for you re clot shot. Why you scared? I watched Renz state the numbers in a open forum. I also wrote twice that Renz represents three military physicians who do have access to the Defense Medical Surveillance System which tracks very fucking doctor visit, hospital visit and ambulance call for each and every armed forces reservist, nat guard or active duty who all have been mandated to get the clot shots. A simple internet search would've told you that and it's not behind a paywall. 'In a declaration under penalty of perjury that Renz plans to use in federal court, Drs. Samuel Sigoloff, Peter Chambers, and Theresa Long three military doctors revealed that there has been a 300% increase in DMED codes registered for miscarriages in the military in 2021 over the five-year average. The five-year average was 1,499 codes for miscarriages per year. During the first 10 months of 2021, it was 4,182. Aside from the spike in miscarriage diagnoses (ICD code O03 for spontaneous abortions), there was an almost 300% increase in cancer diagnoses (from a five-year average of 38,700 per year to 114,645 in the first 11 months of 2021). There was also a 1,000% increase in diagnosis codes for neurological issues, which increased from a baseline average of 82,000 to 863,000.'[/QUOTE]These increases cover one year. A true vaccine as we all know them go through a 5-10 year study before usage because sometimes it takes that long for adverse reactions / diseases to manifest themselves after an experimental foreign substances has been injected into your body . One year increase of nearly 400% in testicular cancers. If you got 2 clot shots and one clot boost, be regularly checking that nut sack for any growths. Swelling and / or pain. A friend had testicular cancer. They caught it in time so he lost only one ball. If they don't catch it in time and you lose two it's an entirely different ball game. Google it. No paywall there either, Joe. You've said you're old and fat. Hypertension increase of 2,181% in one year over the average of the previous five. Old fat man seeing his blood pressure get jacked up put that old fat man at huge risk for heart attack or stroke. Better keep a check on that also, Joe. Like the information above, this also can be easily found via an internet search and not behind a paywall.

Hypertension 2,181% increase.

Diseases of the nervous system 1,048% increase.

Malignant neoplasms of esophagus 894% increase.

Multiple sclerosis 680% increase.

Malignant neoplasms of digestive organs 624% increase.

Guillain-Barre syndrome 551% increase.

Breast cancer 487% increase.

Demyelinating 487% increase.

Neoplasms of thyroid and other endocrine glands 474% increase.

Female infertility 472% increase.

Pulmonary embolism 468% increase.

Migraines 452% increase.

Ovarian dysfunction 437% increase.

Testicular cancer 369% increase.

Tachycardia 302% increase.

[QUOTE=Joesouncool;5748436]I found where the quotes came from. Sorry, but it is behind a paywall. Renz wouldn't quote the numbers under oath. He only stated them away from a court after he was testifying something under oath, so the numbers were not stated while under oath, merely an off the cuff statement.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Joesouncool;5754969]Conspiracy theory about the vaccines. Why don't they testify in open court or in congress? If the cdc is doing such a bad job or has allowed big pharma to bend everyone over, where are these people? The answer is, there aren't any people to bring forward.[/QUOTE]

No paywall. Numbers were submitted under oath. Did testify in open court or congress. And there are many to bring forward. As a matter of fact, 2-3 dozen medical professionals already have. Fat Joe is 0-5 just in just these two comments. Why you make things up and lie Joe? You scared? Useful idiots will tell you it's a conspiracy. It's not a conspiracy. It's happening in the open right in front of your face.

'After an open hearing regarding massive increases in cancer diagnosis, neurological problems, etc. in active duty military. Senator's letter to the Secretary of defense asking if he's aware of these increases and if so what is he doing to investigate it. Also asks as a follow up to earlier letter re the DoD has removed all the diagnosis of myocarditis from the DMED database from 1/21 thru 12/21 and if so why.'

[QUOTE=AaronHamlet;5762095]No paywall. Numbers were submitted under oath. Did testify in open court or congress. And there are many to bring forward. As a matter of fact, 2-3 dozen medical professionals already have. Fat Joe is 0-5 just in just these two comments. Why you make things up and lie Joe? You scared? Useful idiots will tell you it's a conspiracy. It's not a conspiracy. It's happening in the open right in front of your face.

'After an open hearing regarding massive increases in cancer diagnosis, neurological problems, etc. in active duty military. Senator's letter to the Secretary of defense asking if he's aware of these increases and if so what is he doing to investigate it. Also asks as a follow up to earlier letter re the DoD has removed all the diagnosis of myocarditis from the DMED database from 1/21 thru 12/21 and if so why.'[/QUOTE]Anything that Ron Johnson says has the credibility of Rand Paul and Ted Cruz. The three retarded amigos in the Senate. Of course you believe them. You think the virus was manufactured in a lab.

Ron Johnson is a moronic conspiracy theorist and has been going on about stupid shit for some time. Since you like stupid shit, here's another example of it for you to eat up.
[b]
The Wild FBI 'Secret Society' Conspiracy Theory[/b]
[url]https://www.businessinsider.com/fbi-secret-society-conspiracy-2018-1[/url]

"Among all the vaccines I have known in my life:

— diphtheria.

— tetanus.

— smallpox.

— typhoid.

— anthrax.

— rota virus.

— measles.

— rubella.

— chickenpox.

— hepatitis.

— meningitis.

— tuberculosis.

I want to also add:

— flu and pneumonia.

😳 I have never seen a vaccine that forced me to wear a mask and maintain my social distance, even when you are fully vaccinated.

😳 I had never heard of a vaccine that spreads the virus even after vaccination.

😳 I had never heard of rewards, discounts, incentives to get vaccinated.

😳 I never saw discrimination for those who didn't.

🥺If you haven't been vaccinated no one has tried to make you feel like a bad person.

💔I have never seen a vaccine that threatens the relationship between family, colleagues and friends.

👩127995;8205;9877;65039;127891;I have never seen a vaccine used to threaten livelihoods, work or school.

📋I have never seen a vaccine that would allow a 12-year-old to override parental consent. JUST TODAY! 1/20/22.

😡After all the vaccines I listed above, I have never seen a vaccine like this one, which discriminates, divides and judges society as it is.

And as the social fabric tightens. It's a powerful vaccine!

She does all these things except IMMUNIZATION.

If we still need:

— 💉a booster dose after we are fully vaccinated.

—👃127996;and we still need to get a negative test after we are fully vaccinated.

— 😷and we still need to wear a mask after we are fully vaccinated.

— 🏨and still be hospitalized after we have been fully vaccinated.

"It's time for us to admit that we've been completely deceived. ".

I copied and pasted. 🤔.

[QUOTE=SgtLurker;5763347]"Among all the vaccines I have known in my life:

diphtheria.

tetanus.

smallpox.

typhoid.

anthrax.

rota virus.

measles.

rubella.

chickenpox.[/QUOTE]Anyone who disagrees with this excellent post is an anus sniffer. Talking to you in particular, RogieBoy.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5762276]Of course you believe them. You think the virus was manufactured in a lab.[/QUOTE]LOL. That's a good one. Anyone who has any understanding of science doesn't think this, they know it. Just like everyone who kept repeating what the talking heads were saying about doing your civic duty and getting the vaccine because it prevented the spread, which is now also acknowledged as bullshit, most people are not as smart as Toto and are too busy listening to the voices telling them what to do instead of thinking for themselves and pulling open the curtain to expose the fraud behind it.

I've been staying out of this because it's pointless to argue at this point. If people haven't bothered to do their own research and thinking by now they never will, and only the fullness of time is going to open their eyes (and it will).

With regards to the military data and the testimony from the 3 doctors, what Aaron stated is for real, and it has some people worried:

https://www.theepochtimes.com/exclusive-pentagon-responds-to-dod-whistleblowers-claim-of-spiking-disease-rates-in-the-military-after-covid-vaccine-mandate_4247785.html?utm_source=News&utm_campaign=breaking-2022-02-05-2&utm_medium=email&est=s%2Fhrai5rRe0IexdwcsF3juH8VmQW7cNBKWLUBOXGoB3fjvy6rAezk9657090

Hmmm- all of a sudden the last 5 years of military medical records are incorrect, and the database is taken down? I couldn't help but notice the 1. 7 M to 22 M all-case illnesses increase from the year before the Covid vaccines to the year after the vaccine parallels the more than 10 x increase shown in the VAERS database from the CDC pre- and post-Covid vaccines. Yes, the Covid vaccines are doing a wonderful job of keeping our military safe, which had practically zero risk from Covid to begin with. That's the kind of clear-headed risk-reward assessment this administration is capable of.

Other data shows Myocarditis rates sharply increasing:

https://www.theepochtimes.com/why-are-myocarditis-rates-surging-in-europe_4250397.html?utm_source=Morningbrief&utm_campaign=mb-2022-02-03&utm_medium=email&est=GPosT9buJf6cQ3E%2BPfSqyFuFQEaTlFGnKzUtM8i8jQPb3aakJz39opw1qi%2Bo

As noted in the article above, an abnormally high number of athletes are droppoing from cardiac arrests post-vaccine. Yet another just a couple days ago:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/02/new-normal-21-year-old-greek-football-player-dies-pitch-following-cardiac-arrest/

All I can say about this matter is that I and 25 % of my coworkers had covid in early 2020 most of us develop midium or mild symptoms and we haven't been vaccinated not a single one have been reinfected or at least have noticed.

[URL]https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/592457-the-cdc-is-finally-recognizing-natural-immunity-legislators-should-follow[/URL]

[QUOTE=ILuvEmall;5763724]LOL. That's a good one. Anyone who has any understanding of science doesn't think this, they know it. [/QUOTE]Apparently not everyone. Just people that don't know what they are talking about. Exactly what is your specialty in science, since you got all that understanding?

Look, I know you won't read any of this, because it's long and doesn't come from facebook copy / pasta. But just maybe someone will that's not in the dipshit category you and the other usual suspects in this thread go on and on about.
CoVID-19 did not come from the Wuhan Institute of Virology: A discussion about theories of origin with your friendly neighborhood virologist. : [B]science[/B].

[URL]https://np.reddit.com/r/science/comments/gk6y95/covid19_did_not_come_from_the_wuhan_institute_of/[/URL]

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5764203]Apparently not everyone. Just people that don't know what they are talking about. Exactly what is your specialty in science, since you got all that understanding?

Look, I know you won't read any of this, because it's long and doesn't come from facebook copy / pasta. But just maybe someone will that's not in the dipshit category you and the other usual suspects in this thread go on and on about.
CoVID-19 did not come from the Wuhan Institute of Virology: A discussion about theories of origin with your friendly neighborhood virologist. : [B]science[/B].

[URL]https://np.reddit.com/r/science/comments/gk6y95/covid19_did_not_come_from_the_wuhan_institute_of/[/URL][/QUOTE]The reddit link you are referring to was last edited over a year ago. Since then the Foia document release has proved fauci was at least loosely associated with and helped fund WIV research including gain of function research with the SARS virus and the attaching of bat spike proteins to the virus.

The question is how the virus got out. Was it intentional or accidental. We do know that patient 0 through patient 2 were all researchers at WIV and were hospitalized and sick in November 2019. The data is there if your willing to dig for it.

[QUOTE=SgtLurker;5763347]"Among all the vaccines I have known in my life:

diphtheria.

tetanus.

smallpox.

typhoid.

anthrax.

rota virus.

measles.

rubella.

chickenpox.

hepatitis.

meningitis.

tuberculosis.

I want to also add:

flu and pneumonia.

😳 I have never seen a vaccine that forced me to wear a mask and maintain my social distance, even when you are fully vaccinated.

😳 I had never heard of a vaccine that spreads the virus even after vaccination.

😳 I had never heard of rewards, discounts, incentives to get vaccinated.

😳 I never saw discrimination for those who didn't.

🥺If you haven't been vaccinated no one has tried to make you feel like a bad person.

💔I have never seen a vaccine that threatens the relationship between family, colleagues and friends.

👩127995;8205;9877;65039;127891;I have never seen a vaccine used to threaten livelihoods, work or school.

📋I have never seen a vaccine that would allow a 12-year-old to override parental consent. JUST TODAY! 1/20/22.

😡After all the vaccines I listed above, I have never seen a vaccine like this one, which discriminates, divides and judges society as it is.

And as the social fabric tightens. It's a powerful vaccine!

She does all these things except IMMUNIZATION.

If we still need:

💉a booster dose after we are fully vaccinated.

👃127996;and we still need to get a negative test after we are fully vaccinated.

😷and we still need to wear a mask after we are fully vaccinated.

🏨and still be hospitalized after we have been fully vaccinated.

"It's time for us to admit that we've been completely deceived. ".

I copied and pasted. 🤔.[/QUOTE]Man f. Health insurance companies are increasing the premium for not vaccined people, now we have to pay the same premium then smokers smh.

[QUOTE=SgtLurker;5763347]"Among all the vaccines I have known in my life:

diphtheria.

tetanus.

smallpox.

typhoid.

anthrax.

rota virus.

measles.

rubella.

chickenpox.

hepatitis.

meningitis.

tuberculosis.

I want to also add:

flu and pneumonia.

😳 I have never seen a vaccine that forced me to wear a mask and maintain my social distance, even when you are fully vaccinated.

😳 I had never heard of a vaccine that spreads the virus even after vaccination.

😳 I had never heard of rewards, discounts, incentives to get vaccinated.

😳 I never saw discrimination for those who didn't.

🥺If you haven't been vaccinated no one has tried to make you feel like a bad person.

💔I have never seen a vaccine that threatens the relationship between family, colleagues and friends.

👩127995;8205;9877;65039;127891;I have never seen a vaccine used to threaten livelihoods, work or school.

📋I have never seen a vaccine that would allow a 12-year-old to override parental consent. JUST TODAY! 1/20/22.

😡After all the vaccines I listed above, I have never seen a vaccine like this one, which discriminates, divides and judges society as it is.

And as the social fabric tightens. It's a powerful vaccine!

She does all these things except IMMUNIZATION.

If we still need:

💉a booster dose after we are fully vaccinated.

👃127996;and we still need to get a negative test after we are fully vaccinated.

😷and we still need to wear a mask after we are fully vaccinated.

🏨and still be hospitalized after we have been fully vaccinated.

"It's time for us to admit that we've been completely deceived. ".

I copied and pasted. 🤔.[/QUOTE]Most, if not all, of the viruses listed at the top don't mutate which makes vaccination effective. SARS, MERS, and influenza constantly mutate which makes vaccines ineffective.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5764203]Apparently not everyone. Just people that don't know what they are talking about. Exactly what is your specialty in science, since you got all that understanding?

Look, I know you won't read any of this, because it's long and doesn't come from facebook copy / pasta. But just maybe someone will that's not in the dipshit category you and the other usual suspects in this thread go on and on about.
CoVID-19 did not come from the Wuhan Institute of Virology: A discussion about theories of origin with your friendly neighborhood virologist. : [B]science[/B].

[URL]https://np.reddit.com/r/science/comments/gk6y95/covid19_did_not_come_from_the_wuhan_institute_of/[/URL][/QUOTE]Reddit- are you fucking kidding me? Are you really that ignorant that you take your education from Reddit, you moron? I'm a research engineer dipshit, how about you?

Fauci's own experts' emails have been exposed as proclaiming the virus's likely origin was from a lab, and they just couldn't see how this could have occurred naturally:

[URL]https://www.theepochtimes.com/scientists-who-were-instrumental-to-covid-19-natural-origins-narrative-received-over-50-million-in-niaid-funding-in-2020-2021_4220769.html?utm_source=News&utm_campaign=breaking-2022-01-20-2&utm_medium=email&est=5q5laTYhxjhIZVDGp8SSeqw3R%2BdePeLQFGY4oBes4gUn29ppbe3JqbShnnUI[/URL]

Yet, the very next day, they publish a paper proclaiming the virus occurred naturally, and then magically receilve millions in funding from Fauci as a reward. Fauci meanwhile goes around citing this paper as proof for the origins of the virus, claiming he doesn't even remember the names of the authors, even though the Freedom of Information Act has now exposed his lies and made it clear that he forced the narrative and lied before Congress about it. Are you really that naive or just that stupid?

Enlighten yourself a little:

[URL]https://www.theepochtimes.com/pandemic-lessons-learned-scientific-debate-silenced-with-deadly-consequences_4256843.html?utm_source=News&utm_campaign=breaking-2022-02-05-3&utm_medium=email&est=FzWN8%2BEOCVpvb3F1C2k2CMViUv3coph7MK6FiZenuqfIo48YyVm06ulrNsHo[/URL]

The truth will reveal itself eventually, but it will be too late for you, and for many others, unfortunately. Human nature makes it difficult to admit your mistakes, and the first instinct is to find any means to justify your actions. Psychology is fascinating, isn't it? The weak-minded are the ones who are especially susceptible and get sucked in to the mass movement and attempt to enforce their will on everyone else, ironically sealing their own fate.

[QUOTE=ILuvEmall;5764339]Reddit- are you fucking kidding me? Are you really that ignorant that you take your education from Reddit, you moron? I'm a research engineer dipshit, how about you?[/QUOTE]Are you kidding me? Just go be you, stupid fuck face.

I knew anything longform was too much for you. lol

If you really wann know how long Fauci has been pushing his own personal agendas or those of the people pulling his purse strings. Here is an article from the late 80's involving AZT that he and the FDA pushed on to AIDS patients. The drug killed over 80% of the people tested. And as dangerous as it is its still used as an experimental treatment. AZT initially was used as a cancer drug but failed because it was found that the drug was as dangerous the cancer the people were dying from to begin with. So no personally I don't trust a word that comes out of that man's mouth. I believe it's all a lie or he's just the puppet of some other entity. And the people in power and alot of people on the left believe everything he says is the gospel and the best and should be mandated on every person in this country.

[URL]https://www.spin.com/2015/10/aids-and-the-azt-scandal-spin-1989-feature-sins-of-omission/[/URL]

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5764367]Just go be you[/QUOTE]Never any worries there, I don't need you or anyone else to tell me that. Nor do I need you or anyone else to tell me that you'll go be one of the mindless crowd-following idiots who are told what to think, because you're unable to do so for yourself. So fall in line with your senile leader and don't dare question "Mr. Science", whose lies and attempts to cover up same are being exposed. Keep getting your information from your trusted CNN, who is averaging what, a firing every day now, between the scandals happening there and their plummeting ratings? Too bad they took what Ted had built into a reputable news source and destroyed it and turned it into a mouthpiece for the left.

[QUOTE=SgtLurker;5763347]"Among all the vaccines I have known in my life:

diphtheria.

tetanus.

smallpox.

typhoid.

anthrax.

rota virus.

measles.

rubella.

chickenpox.

hepatitis.

meningitis.

tuberculosis.

I want to also add:

flu and pneumonia.

😳 I have never seen a vaccine that forced me to wear a mask and maintain my social distance, even when you are fully vaccinated.

😳 I had never heard of a vaccine that spreads the virus even after vaccination.

😳 I had never heard of rewards, discounts, incentives to get vaccinated.

😳 I never saw discrimination for those who didn't.

🥺If you haven't been vaccinated no one has tried to make you feel like a bad person.

💔I have never seen a vaccine that threatens the relationship between family, colleagues and friends.

👩127995;8205;9877;65039;127891;I have never seen a vaccine used to threaten livelihoods, work or school.

📋I have never seen a vaccine that would allow a 12-year-old to override parental consent. JUST TODAY! 1/20/22.

😡After all the vaccines I listed above, I have never seen a vaccine like this one, which discriminates, divides and judges society as it is.

And as the social fabric tightens. It's a powerful vaccine!

She does all these things except IMMUNIZATION.

If we still need:

💉a booster dose after we are fully vaccinated.

👃127996;and we still need to get a negative test after we are fully vaccinated.

😷and we still need to wear a mask after we are fully vaccinated.

🏨and still be hospitalized after we have been fully vaccinated.

"It's time for us to admit that we've been completely deceived. ".

I copied and pasted. 🤔.[/QUOTE]Obviously copied and pasted. You don't seem to know much about the vaccines and the diseases you listed.

If there were a massive outbreak of tuberculosis, you would need to wear a mask after vaccination.

Hepatitis requires three shots that are only good for about ten years.

Smallpox vaccine has an efficacy rate of about 95%. The reason is was eradicated is because EVERYONE got the shot.

People get the flu after having the flu shot and can spread it.

I had to have vaccines to go to school. If I didn't get them, I was discriminated against by. Not being able to attend school.

My job required the hepatitis vaccine, even though I don't work in the shit plant division. More of a stick than a carrot, but the same effect.

Try doing some research before copying and pasting, ditto head.

[QUOTE=HobbyMan51;5763624]Anyone who disagrees with this excellent post is an anus sniffer. Talking to you in particular, RogieBoy.[/QUOTE]I disagreed with it. You seem to be the one with his head up his own ass.

[QUOTE=RedneckStud;5769800]I disagreed with it. You seem to be the one with his head up his own ass.[/QUOTE]Then I'm also talking to you, moron. Common sense is a foreign concept to you.

[QUOTE=RedneckStud;5769793]Obviously copied and pasted. You don't seem to know much about the vaccines and the diseases you listed.

If there were a massive outbreak of tuberculosis, you would need to wear a mask after vaccination.

Hepatitis requires three shots that are only good for about ten years.

Smallpox vaccine has an efficacy rate of about 95%. The reason is was eradicated is because EVERYONE got the shot.

People get the flu after having the flu shot and can spread it.

I had to have vaccines to go to school. If I didn't get them, I was discriminated against by. Not being able to attend school.

My job required the hepatitis vaccine, even though I don't work in the shit plant division. More of a stick than a carrot, but the same effect.

Try doing some research before copying and pasting, ditto head.[/QUOTE]International travel requires vaccination. That threatens family connections, work, and school.

School requires vaccination.

The dummy likely didn't go to college, if he did he'd know that several boosters are required to enroll.

Probably a poor fuck as well, as middle and upper class neighborhoods hate the dumbass anti vaxers that have caused outbreaks of old ass diseases that were once eradicated in the US. Then again, if your a poor redneck from bum fuck egypt, you'd just blame the Mexicans.

Only an idiot wouldn’t know that the shingles vaccine is to protect against, you guessed it, chickenpox.

[QUOTE=NewDude;5770540]

Only an idiot wouldnt know that the shingles vaccine is to protect against, you guessed it, chickenpox.[/QUOTE]Wait! I sort of want them to get shingles. I've heard it's super pleasant, so let's discourage them from getting the vaccine for that.

[QUOTE=RedneckStud;5769793]Obviously copied and pasted. You don't seem to know much about the vaccines and the diseases you listed.[/QUOTE]I actually have a hell-of-a-lot of knowledge.

[QUOTE=RedneckStud;5769793]If there were a massive outbreak of tuberculosis, you would need to wear a mask after vaccination.[/QUOTE]I live alone and would still not wear it outside nor in business where it was not mandated and I either needed to be there or wanted to.

[QUOTE=RedneckStud;5769793]Hepatitis requires three shots that are only good for about ten years.[/QUOTE]Since my late wife was exposed to Hep either as a Korean orphan or from a lot of surgeries in the 60's to give her the ability to walk, I know quite a bit. But I do not get regular boosters since retiring from the Army and it was not required for either of my trips to India in recent years.

[QUOTE=RedneckStud;5769793]Smallpox vaccine has an efficacy rate of about 95%. The reason is was eradicated is because EVERYONE got the shot.[/QUOTE]If everyone got the Covid shot it still would not eradicate it anymore than it would eradicate the flu.

[QUOTE=RedneckStud;5769793]People get the flu after having the flu shot and can spread it.[/QUOTE]EXACTLY MY POINT, it is NOT a F'ing vaccine!

[QUOTE=RedneckStud;5769793]I had to have vaccines to go to school. If I didn't get them, I was discriminated against by. Not being able to attend school.[/QUOTE]Those were proven vaccines that had been thoroughly tested over decades and proven to PREVENT the disease. The Covid shot does not PREVENT the disease, it only maybe, most of the time, hopefully, with a lot of luck, lesson the severity of a disease that all ready has a 98%+ survival rate.

[QUOTE=RedneckStud;5769793]My job required the hepatitis vaccine, even though I don't work in the shit plant division. More of a stick than a carrot, but the same effect.[/QUOTE]And when I was in the Army, I had to get the vaccines they stated but the flu shot was optional because it is NOT a VACCINE!

[QUOTE=RedneckStud;5769793]Try doing some research before copying and pasting, ditto head.[/QUOTE]I have done research. Now, explain this to me. I spent Christmas with my SO (all Covid shots) at her parents house, apparently they had Covid, she got a bad sinus infection. We make the 11 hour drive back, sleep that first night at her house, sit in the car for another 3. 5 - 4 hours going to Douglasville for the Covid test and she is positive and I am negative? I have been exposed on several occasions and nothing!. All of my siblings have had extremely mild cases, hell, my sis only had sniffles for 2 days. Why the F should I get some damn experimental shot if some people actually have a natural immunity? I rarely wear a mask as I said except where absolutely required like the VA clinic. Which BTW, the Atlanta area ones require the paper issued ones which means I take out my hearing aids but others around the state and Alabama will allow gators.

[QUOTE=SgtLurker;5771044]I actually have a hell-of-a-lot of knowledge.

I have done research. Now, explain this to me. I spent Christmas with my SO (all Covid shots) at her parents house, apparently they had Covid, she got a bad sinus infection. We make the 11 hour drive back, sleep that first night at her house, sit in the car for another 3. 5 - 4 hours going to Douglasville for the Covid test and she is positive and I am negative? I have been exposed on several occasions and nothing!. All of my siblings have had extremely mild cases, hell, my sis only had sniffles for 2 days. Why the F should I get some damn experimental shot if some people actually have a natural immunity? I rarely wear a mask as I said except where absolutely required like the VA clinic. Which BTW, the Atlanta area ones require the paper issued ones which means I take out my hearing aids but others around the state and Alabama will allow gators.[/QUOTE]Dude, I think you just don't recognize how anecdotal and non-scientific any of this personal experience is. It doesn't mean everything that hasn't happened to you is bullshit. It also doesn't mean everyone that doesn't listen to you and follow your example are bad people.

Do whatever you want. Just stop telling everyone else that it's all bullshit because it hasn't happened to you.

Here is my point, very simply written so you can understand. Too many on this board drank the kool-aid and are pushing the Sleepy Joe agenda. The military was too quick to rush to order shots for all members. The travel restrictions will eventually abate once the realize this is now an endemic and not a pandemic. But we totally destroyed an economy, killed jobs, because of overreaction. Read the Johns-Hopkins study that showed the lockdowns had little to no good effect. My only agenda is leave me alone, let adults be adults and make their own decisions about how they and their families chose to live.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5771065]Dude, I think you just don't recognize how anecdotal and non-scientific any of this personal experience is. It doesn't mean everything that hasn't happened to you is bullshit. It also doesn't mean everyone that doesn't listen to you and follow your example are bad people.

Do whatever you want. Just stop telling everyone else that it's all bullshit because it hasn't happened to you.[/QUOTE]

Coincidence? I think not.

[QUOTE=SgtLurker;5771044]I actually have a hell-of-a-lot of knowledge.


EXACTLY MY POINT, it is NOT a F'ing vaccine!

[/QUOTE]So, since you have so much knowledge, is the chicken pox vaccine not a vaccine?

[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/chickenpox/about/symptoms.html[/URL]#text=Some%20 people%20 who%20 have%20 been, people%20 who%20 are%20 not%20 vaccinated.

[QUOTE=SgtLurker;5771327]Here is my point, very simply written so you can understand. Too many on this board drank the kool-aid and are pushing the Sleepy Joe agenda. The military was too quick to rush to order shots for all members. The travel restrictions will eventually abate once the realize this is now an endemic and not a pandemic. But we totally destroyed an economy, killed jobs, because of overreaction. Read the Johns-Hopkins study that showed the lockdowns had little to no good effect. My only agenda is leave me alone, let adults be adults and make their own decisions about how they and their families chose to live.[/QUOTE]See, that's your point and YOUR personal opinion. My economy isn't destroyed. I'm making more money now than I ever did. I'm good with your decisions for you and your family. I'm not good with people trying to force it on the rest of us. In a lot of ways, the lockdown helped the future economy, since many people have moved on to better, work-from-home jobs that let them spend more time with family, etc. without the time and fuel costs associated with commuting to work.

Sorry if that hurt the diner that was supporting the lunch crowd, but just like autonomous vehicles will kill off long-haul truck drivers at some point, it's not all bad.

I'm not extending this to other countries that may have suffered much worse during the lockdowns. No idea about that.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5771839]See, that's your point and YOUR personal opinion. My economy isn't destroyed. I'm making more money now than I ever did. I'm good with your decisions for you and your family. I'm not good with people trying to force it on the rest of us. In a lot of ways, the lockdown helped the future economy, since many people have moved on to better, work-from-home jobs that let them spend more time with family, etc. without the time and fuel costs associated with commuting to work.

Sorry if that hurt the diner that was supporting the lunch crowd, but just like autonomous vehicles will kill off long-haul truck drivers at some point, it's not all bad.

I'm not extending this to other countries that may have suffered much worse during the lockdowns. No idea about that.[/QUOTE]I would counter and say that the above is just YOUR point and YOUR personal opinion, and is in fact, quite opposite of what the majority of the country has experienced, and that's a fact. While you, and even I, and no doubt the elite that has leveraged this disastrous Covid handling on us to line their pockets, may have prospered over the past couple of years, the average American has only been losing ground, and the wealth divide in this country has never been greater, and that includes the racial income divide as well. Of course, the liberals claim to care so much about the poor, but had no problem using the scandemic to fleece them even further if it means enriching themselves. Just like you not giving a shit about the diner that your neighbor ran, so long as Bezos and Gates got richer it's all good.

[QUOTE=RedneckStud;5771450]So, since you have so much knowledge, is the chicken pox vaccine not a vaccine?

[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/chickenpox/about/symptoms.html[/URL]#text=Some%20 people%20 who%20 have%20 been, people%20 who%20 are%20 not%20 vaccinated.[/QUOTE]It is a vaccine, just not an effective one against the type virus it is, the varicella-zoster virus (VZV), a type of herpes virus. The same with influenza and SARS, there are vaccines, they just aren't effective against the type viruses they are: Influenza viruses are members of the family Orthomyxoviridae. This family represents enveloped viruses the genome of which consists of segmented negative-sense single-strand RNA (-ssRNA) segments. SARS‑CoV‑2 belongs to the broad family of viruses known as coronaviruses. It is a positive-sense single-stranded RNA (+ssRNA) virus.

[QUOTE=ILuvEmall;5772646]I would counter and say that the above is just YOUR point and YOUR personal opinion, and is in fact, quite opposite of what the majority of the country has experienced, and that's a fact. While you, and even I, and no doubt the elite that has leveraged this disastrous Covid handling on us to line their pockets, may have prospered over the past couple of years, the average American has only been losing ground, and the wealth divide in this country has never been greater, and that includes the racial income divide as well. Of course, the liberals claim to care so much about the poor, but had no problem using the scandemic to fleece them even further if it means enriching themselves. Just like you not giving a shit about the diner that your neighbor ran, so long as Bezos and Gates got richer it's all good.[/QUOTE]You added words to what I wrote. I didn't say I didn't give a shit. I did see plenty of restaurants that managed to get money or make business changes and make it through the pandemic. But unfortunately, I also witnessed plenty of big-box store failures. Businesses have to adapt to the environment. Anyone who creates a company that relies on people showing up because of where they work is in a pickle, whether a pandemic or a significant business failure that kills the visitors that kept them afloat.

The GOP has done far more to enable Bezos, Musk, Gates, etc., to create the wealth gap. Not looking to argue about that particular point, because the poor tend to get fucked no matter who's in charge.

If you got the vaccine great, if not great. Everyone should do what they feel is best for their body. Remember though to keep your body healthy to fight off any disease. You can take vitamin D, get exercise, walk, get a good nights sleep, get as much garlic, green tea, turmeric, zinc, green juice, fresh vegetables into your system as you can, etc etc. The media fails to tell you the latter.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5772912]because the poor tend to get fucked no matter who's in charge.[/QUOTE]Can't say I disagree with that. My point was that the handling of Covid certainly has not helped the average American, and it has done even less to help those in third world countries in even greater need, who have suffered even far greater consequences as a result of the hysteria and hype and yes, disinformation propagated by the governments and media worldwide. Thankfully, it appears the facade is beginning to crumble and people are just beginning to realize what has taken place, but only after much irrepairable damage has already been done (9/11 aftermath deja vu anyone?).

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5771839]See, that's your point and YOUR personal opinion. My economy isn't destroyed. I'm making more money now than I ever did. I'm good with your decisions for you and your family. I'm not good with people trying to force it on the rest of us. In a lot of ways, the lockdown helped the future economy, since many people have moved on to better, work-from-home jobs that let them spend more time with family, etc. without the time and fuel costs associated with commuting to work.

Sorry if that hurt the diner that was supporting the lunch crowd, but just like autonomous vehicles will kill off long-haul truck drivers at some point, it's not all bad.

I'm not extending this to other countries that may have suffered much worse during the lockdowns. No idea about that.[/QUOTE]Highest wage growth amongst the lowest paid tier in 50 years. Highest GDP growth in 50 years. Reduction in child poverty, highest US household savings, us household savings is at 2 trillion right now, banks are in the strongest position, unemployment below 4 percent.

It's a cult, they don't like who's in power, so no matter how good things are, their cult forces them to believe it's all bad.

[QUOTE=NewDude;5775751]Highest wage growth amongst the lowest paid tier in 50 years. Highest GDP growth in 50 years. Reduction in child poverty, highest US household savings, us household savings is at 2 trillion right now, banks are in the strongest position, unemployment below 4 percent.

It's a cult, they don't like who's in power, so no matter how good things are, their cult forces them to believe it's all bad.[/QUOTE]It's all identity politics at this point. I'm unaffiliated, although many in here would call me the radical left since I don't believe all their stupid shit. I've literally had righties tell me that they aren't happy, but any change would mean voting for a democrat and they can't do it. I can't imagine what it's like to be that myopic.

[QUOTE=NewDude;5775751]Highest wage growth amongst the lowest paid tier in 50 years. Highest GDP growth in 50 years. Reduction in child poverty, highest US household savings, us household savings is at 2 trillion right now, banks are in the strongest position, unemployment below 4 percent.

It's a cult, they don't like who's in power, so no matter how good things are, their cult forces them to believe it's all bad.[/QUOTE]You need to stop proclaiming your superiority, because you only show your ignorance every time you do. Inflation has outstripped wage growth, which is why the average American household's situation has actually seen a deterioration. I repeat, the wealth divide in the country has never been greater, so if you believe the lowest paid have been making out then you're out of touch with reality. US household debt at an all-time high. Banks are in the the position they're in (which is far from the strongest historically speaking, by the way) thanks to the bailouts provided via the taxpayer dollars and them paying those same taxpayers zero interest on their savings, thanks to this fraudulent Fed who looks out for their Wall Street banker buddies instead of the tax payers. Unemployment numbers are low because of the massive amount of people that have left the workforce and rolled off the unemployment ranks. It's easy to pump up stats in the short term with reckless printing of endless money, but eventually you have to deal with the consequences. I've been critical of monetary policy since long before this administration came to power, though like almost every administration of recent years, they seem to take it as a challenge to escalate it to a new level.

[QUOTE=TreatHerWell;5773108]If you got the vaccine great, if not great. Everyone should do what they feel is best for their body. Remember though to keep your body healthy to fight off any disease. You can take vitamin D, get exercise, walk, get a good nights sleep, get as much garlic, green tea, turmeric, zinc, green juice, fresh vegetables into your system as you can, etc etc. The media fails to tell you the latter.[/QUOTE]Uh-huh so if you get HIV or the flesh eating bacteria and don't decided to take any medication but vitamin D and other home remedies you will be completely fine... Something tells me you have NO IDEA what you're talking about.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5775787]It's all identity politics at this point. I'm unaffiliated, although many in here would call me the radical left since I don't believe all their stupid shit. I've literally had righties tell me that they aren't happy, but any change would mean voting for a democrat and they can't do it. I can't imagine what it's like to be that myopic.[/QUOTE]Right there with you brother. I don't get why people on the extremes, left and right, think that their's is the one solution. I've been called a radical socialist by people that have no idea what the term means. I've been called a right wing fascist by people that have no idea what they are talking about. This site is about pussy and having a good time. Of the 6 or so forums that I visit regularly, atlanta is the only one where people are going ape shit. I haven't figured out why.

[QUOTE=NewDude;5775751]

It's a cult, they don't like who's in power, so no matter how good things are, their cult forces them to believe it's all bad.[/QUOTE]That's a fact. Anybody that think's that their life will fundamentally change based on who is president, controls congress, is governor, or whatever is fooling themselves. Politicians don't care about me, you, or the man in the moon. They only want your next vote, so they pander to people and fool them. If they can fool enough of the voters, then they win the next election. Sure, they put on a pretty face and kiss up, but behind the scenes, they don't give a damn about anyone.

[QUOTE=TheRabbit;5778773]Uh-huh so if you get HIV or the flesh eating bacteria and don't decided to take any medication but vitamin D and other home remedies you will be completely fine... Something tells me you have NO IDEA what you're talking about.[/QUOTE]No one is advocating not taking any med if and when they catch something, but to take a shot that is falsely called a vaccine which shows it neither prevents the disease nor prevents recipients from passing it to others is not the same as taking Remdesivir, Ivermectin, Hydroxychloroquine, or any other medicine prescribed by your doctor after catching a disease. Please just stop, if you even can.

I am not saying my choice is your right and your choice for you is wrong and you have no business telling me my choice is wrong. Neither my personal Dr nor my new VA Dr pushed me to the get the shot.

Have a nice day.

[QUOTE=Joesouncool;5779096]I haven't figured out why.[/QUOTE]

That's because you're a liar, Joe. You spew so much bullshit you can't figure nothing out.

[QUOTE=Joesouncool;5748436]I found where the quotes came from. Sorry, but it is behind a paywall. Renz wouldn't quote the numbers under oath. He only stated them away from a court after he was testifying something under oath, so the numbers were not stated while under oath, merely an off the cuff statement.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Joesouncool;5754969]where are his insiders with all of the information? Why don't they testify in open court or in congress? If the cdc is doing such a bad job or has allowed big pharma to bend everyone over, where are these people?
The answer is, there aren't any people to bring forward.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Aaron Hamlet;5762095]No paywall. Numbers were submitted under oath. Did testify in open court or congress. And there are many to bring forward. As a matter of fact, 2-3 dozen medical professionals already have. Fat Joe is 0-5 just in just these two comments. Why you make things up and lie Joe? You scared? Useful idiots will tell you it's a conspiracy. It's not a conspiracy. It's happening in the open right in front of your face.

'After an open hearing regarding massive increases in cancer diagnosis, neurological problems, etc. in active duty military. Senator's letter to the Secretary of defense asking if he's aware of these increases and if so what is he doing to investigate it. Also asks as a follow up to earlier letter re the DoD has removed all the diagnosis of myocarditis from the DMED database from 1/21 thru 12/21 and if so why.'[/QUOTE]

Go back to telling how you're old and fat but pick up the hottest strippers, shot girls and waitresses, take them home and bang them without paying a dime?

[QUOTE=AaronHamlet;5779234]That's because you're a liar, Joe. You spew so much bullshit you can't figure nothing out.







Go back to telling how you're old and fat but pick up the hottest strippers, shot girls and waitresses, take them home and bang them without paying a dime?[/QUOTE]Ron cites "Rumble" and "data on file with staff". That moron is not a credible source.